My hubby, former Republican, laughed, then said he wished Dems would pick Buttigieg for VP. Not for the 'tweak the normies' fun, though. He really likes Mayor Pete. :D
I'd love to see him go back to Indiana and run for one of those Senate seats, both held by Reputhuglicans I've never heard of. One of those seats should be coming up for election sometime in the next few years.
Supposedly he has a relatively high approval rating among Fox viewers. I like it that he has gone into the fire many times and comes out having slain their pundits. He is also the most competent cabinet member Joe has.
Pete earned the nickname "Slayer Pete" 🏆 for badly embarrassing Fox interviewers. But always respectfully, with a super calm demeanor. Fox is so F'ing stupid to keep booking him! He makes them look dumb as a box of rocks. But he's Sooooo nice about it!!!
Unfortunately too many Americans need to accept a Woman and Black at that, Obama was a shock for many, imagine a Woman! And I Love Pete! Too big of a step both together, I wish! They would be awesome 💙
I was talking about the "normal people"—the ones who voted for both Obama AND Trump, and then voted for Biden in 2020 because he was the more "reasonable" choice than Donnie Diapershit. They were inclined to vote for Biden in 2024 as well (unlike the Party Elites and MSM types, along with the Billionaire Donors!)...and for now, they're keeping their options open. Trump's getting more unhinged by the day, but Harris is a Black Woman—I mean, an "unknown quantity"!
She's neither the eloquent public speaker Obama is, nor did she make much of an impression during most of her time as VP. Admittedly she's been stepping up in the past six months or so, but will that be enough to overcome mainstream voter unease over how Biden suddenly "retired"? If she retains, or better improves, her standing between now and post-Convention then I'll breathe easier, but I'm still afraid now that the Democratic Party Circular Firing Squad has come out onto the field, they're not going away until they destroy any vestigate of unity or even common sense that Democrats might have...!
I do like the way you think! Although the sad reality is that the festering pustule that is the current more right-leaning Republicans will likely never go away. So while that butt-boil continues to expand, at some point the general electorate will tire of the Democrats and vote in a Republican majority.... and at that point it will be game over. I hate to say it, but this is just a matter of time. :(
Yes. That's the word. I sent the thousand word Drumpf description off to friends. Such a satisfying sentence. A five-to-ten in Dannemora would be a satisfying sentence too. LOL
Yes! And a wonderful piece today Jeff! BUT once again my lunch nearly got shot across the room! "show us on the doll where Kamala hurt you, Ross." Come on!
I'm with Ms. Spouse. I watched that over and over again.
I also note that yesterday was a record-breaking day of donations for the Democratic Party and their candidate. SMALL DOLLAR DONATIONS! That's one of the things I look at. Grassroots support. Were I running, I'd rather have $1M in small donations than $2M from a single, wealthy donor. It indicates FAR more votes.
He looks like a cross between Nosferatu and Eichmann. Really the worst person. I read that even the Republicans know that people don't react well to him, so they try to keep him out of sight.
Nikki said during her campaign that “we can’t have Kamala Harris for president if Joe can’t go on as being president “ or something like that. I wondered why she was so against Kamala-no reason given from her so I filled in the blanks. One of Nikki’s PACs has now endorsed Kamala-you can’t make this stuff up! 😆
Anybody who runs against Orange Jesus as she did, knowing his felony/misogynist/fraud/lying baggage then kissing his cinnamon ring doesn't even qualify for a job at the Pretzel Maker in the Kearney, Nebraska Hilltop Mall.
I like Mark Kelly too.I thought about Josh Shapiro-he’s great too-but Kelly has the astronaut card, the military card,the husband of Gabby Giffords card and is not gay, black, Muslim/Jewish or other religions not Christian, and most of all he is NOT a 36 count felon.
It’s not the right time for another avowed Zionist, that’s what lost the younger voters & quite a few POC voters. David Hogg has already warned against doing that.
"if Kelly became vice president, Democrats would need to fill his seat, potentially risking it flipping to the Republican column and imperiling the party’s chances of Senate control. Arizona’s Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs would almost certainly appoint a Democrat to fill Kelly’s seat. But then that person would have to run in a special election in 2026 and again in 2028 for a full term." - Huff Po
Our Governor in AZ, Katie Hobbs, is a strong Dem, so we have that going for us if Kelly is selected as a presidential running mate. Bush took our previous Dem Governor from us for his first Secretary of Homeland Security, and we had two GOP governors for years after that before we got Katie in!
Makes me sad that being Jewish makes Josh Shapiro possibly slip off VP list. Appreciate details on Mark Kelly, that AZ's DEM gov would replace him with a Dem. A swing state too.
It makes me sad that several of the top prospects would not pass the muster from certain groups. I love Buttigieg but would fear that his being gay would not work. Same with Shapiro being Jewish. We all know that racism and sexism is alive and well in our country, sadly. We need the perfect candidate for VP. I am hoping with time, a gay/Jewish/Muslim/ and other persons who are NOT WASP can hold the highest offices in the land. I think the younger generations will see this happen in their lifetimes, boomers, not so much.
I'm a Boomer and I agree. I'm to the point that all I wish for my remaining years is that we never, ever elect a GOP president again. The diversity elected officials will come later than my generation. I also think we will elect a gay president before we ever elect an atheist. Right now all I want is Trump gone. Never to see his ugly face again or hear that whiny voice. I don't have a bucket list anymore as far as politics is concerned. The threat is so great right now, that all that needs to happen in the near future is for him to lose. We also need to win Congress.
As far as electing an atheist (I'm agnostic), with Separation of Church and State, I would LOVE to see a candidate run while never bringing their faith, or lack of faith, into the public arena.
Because you need the youth vote and right now, the war in Israel/Gaza is a touchy subject with many college students supporting Gaza. You want to appeal to the broadest base you can right now.
Fwiw, I think the presence of a Jewish VP in addition to a Jewish SG could lose the votes of mild bigots (= not thrilled about a Jewish SG but that's not a deal-breaker) or people who are distraught about the treatment of the Palestinians.
(Yes, I know that the SG has zero official duties, but bigots and semi-bigots ain't rational thinkers ... )
I want my elected officials to behave with integrity and reasonable domestic/foreign policies. Yes, diversity is important, but just because you have a minority in an important role, doesn't mean that the above will be the end result. Look at Thomas on the SC. Look at Menendez. What about the minorities that are Trump supporters? Same with women now in what used to be male roles. MTG, Bobo, Marsha - all women. I'd take a male any day over them. I've also noticed that when women are in certain male roles, they take on more male characteristics that we don't want. The warm, fuzzy mom stuff goes out the window. You see naked ambition, greed, ruthlessness, just like with some men. You won't be able to succeed in that toxic world unless you adapt to the environment. So I think it would be great if the US finally gets into the 21st century and elects a woman president. But that is not my absolute goal - I want a decent president, male or female.
The younger voters will absolutely turn against Kamala if she chooses Josh Shapiro. He is an avowed Zionist & would only be swapping 1 Zionist for another one. That’s a hard no. David Hogg has warned the Dems about it.
I think Mark Kelly is the best and most logical choice to keep the electorate Biden brought in. I also agree with Heather Cox Richardson. We have a superb cabinet in place and we should not touch it for now. Keep these people doing the work they’ve been doing with Joe.
Poor Gabby was hit in the forehead. She is permanently disabled and will not be in elected office. But she and Mark formed a gun control advocacy PAC. They are both gun owners but also are realists. BIg difference from the right wing ammosexuals
I guess I was wondering whether that might keep him from wanting to be considered as VP.
Would it trigger more gun lunatics than normal.
I always am getting emails to contribute to Gabby's anti-gun PAC, which I have. And this morning, she's been sending out emails asking for donations for Kamala.
I'm sure other Dems have gotten all this as well...I'm just speculating about all of this. I have not answers!
I'm more worried about the possibility of losing a Dem senator. His replacement would be a Dem (appointed by the current Dem governor), but then the replacement would have to run in a special election in 2026, I've read, and even if the Dem replacement were to win that, they would have to run in 2028 (when Kelly's current term ends). And, per the 538 website, AZ still leans GOP, albeit less so than many of the GOP-leaning states.
Kelly is perfect in every other way; if not for the potential loss of his Dem Senate seat, I'd love to see him as her VP.
Sure beats Vance's military career as a correspondent. There's bring in the military and them there's being IN the military. I'd put Kelly as the latter and Vance as the former.
Mos def! I won't denigrate Vance's service since I'm not a veteran, but Kelly is the real deal who did the dangerous stuff. Very dangerous. Nerves of steel, intestinal fortitude, the right stuff, all in spades
But keep in mind that the replacement would have to run again in 2028 (and I think also in 2026, in a special election because of having been appointed rather than elected) -- and that AZ still leans GOP.
I would ***love*** to see Sen. Kelly as VP Harris's running mate, but the qualities and CV that make him perfect for that spot also made him perfect as a winner in AZ. He's a rare bird; Hobbs would have trouble finding someone like him who supports Dem priorities but is also palatable to GOPs.
Tim Wahls is actually pretty darn cool. They’ve had him on msnbc several times over the past few days. He’s humble & plain spoken, he’s against school vouchers, pro choice, has 2 daughters age 23 & 26 who keep him informed about SM, especially what’s happening on TikTok
Exactly. He's also a strong candidate for gun reform. Former military as well. I saw some Biden Republicans who helped bring out the 2020 vote absolutely enraged and complaining about Harris's record as AG. Kelly could help bring them out again.
I would like to see governors of swing states considered… PA, MI. All-woman ticket could be a winner this year. Women are mad! I know I am and so are the girl dads. I like Pete but I think another cabinet role would be better and not give an easy target to the big bully.
Pete won't bring any swing voters to the campaign, and that has to be the primary goal. In addition, his being gay will turn off some; sad but true that lots of bigots still roam the earth.
Anyone else waiting for a YUGE maga spontaneous combustion when they absorb VP Harris is a half-Black, half Asian Bi-Racial WOMAN OF COLOR? Watch out for exploding maga brains, public wailing, increased 5150 mental health involuntary hospitalizations. #Harris2024 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris
AND Judge Juan Merchan, of Hispanic descent, ready to sentence turd soon!! I despise racism. The Universe/Karma balancing the scales, with a side of Irony. 🇺🇸⚖️🗽
They have to tread carefully about her ethnic background. Vance's wife is 100% Indian. Be interesting to see what comments are made. I know there was talk that she (Harris) wasn't legally born here. WTF. I know Oakland can be a little strange, but it is still the US. Just kidding if you live in Oakland. We have your football team and soon will get your baseball team :)
Today 7/27 “The Villages” is the top trender on Xitter; over 200 golf carts are rallying for Kamala in Florida. A place we all thought was totally Trump city.
I was worried it might be a set up. Like Tulsa, when Tic Tokers reserved 10,000 seats, and then stayed home. It was a YUGE embarrassment. Did Kamala go to FL yet?
We also need somebody from the East Coast, from either a Blue or Red state. AZ is too closely aligned with the South West / Western US. He’d make a great VP, but needs to keep his Senate seat.
Respectfully disagreeing with one point: A blue-state pick would bring her zero new voters.
I don't yet know much about Roy Cooper, but he's 67 -- probably a minus for young voters, who (rightly, I think) are frustrated by the political gerontocracy that has been insufficiently concerned about the climate catastrophe, about insufficient housing, about price-gouging by landlords, and other issues that degrade the lives of the young.
Andy Beshear is interesting (and only 47yo). Most of his positions are at least somewhat left of center; he's a deacon in his church; and he doesn't support an assault-weapon ban (to me that's a bad stance, but we know that many Murkans like it). He could bring in some voters who dislike djt but who typically turn away from Dem candidates.
But Kaine was *blah*in every way, and Kelly isn't. He has vigor, and he has an amazing CV -- not just former military but a former astronaut (that's cool; that's heroic).
I'd be 100% behind Kelly as the running mate if not for the likely flip of his Senate seat to a GOP. (Gov. Hobbs would appoint a Dem, but the appointee would have to run in a special election in 2026 -- and AZ trends red, per the 538 website.)
Pete would be my first choice too, but he’s got a small child — you do have to admire his priorities… :) Mark Kelly would be my next choice — I’d settle for seeing Gabby now and then, but Kelly is smart and capable and a good guy even on his own.
It has to be the right woman. Just wanting a woman to be president - you could get MTG, Boo Boo or Marsha. I really don't care about the gender - I want the one whose policies I agree with.
We haven't yet because the US -- which leads in certain ways, such as technical innovation -- is a socially conservative and frankly backward country.
This is why we lag behind our peers (in the group of about 30+ developed democracies) with regard to universal health care, a less-unfair tax code, educational standards and achievement, abortion policy, voting rights, gun safety, women's rights, civil rights, employers' obligations and workers' rights, paid time off, paid parental leave, etc. etc. etc.
That said, I think we WILL elect a woman in 2024! President Kamala Harris.
We definitely have our work cut out for us but Kamala can do this. The fact that she's already raised quite a bit of money and his assholiness along with the rest of the GOP Howler monkeys are losing their shit, shows how scared they are about her candidacy. Although many of us were pulling for Joe, this re-energized ticket could be what finally gets the demented flatulent felon out of politics and back to Mar a Lardo for good.
I agree, Kamala won't be intimidated by Trump, she's dealt with his type before. She scares the shit out of him.
Yesterday was tough for many of us. In Marine Corps parlance, embrace the suck and move the f*ck on. The game has changed. We can adapt faster than they can.
It's easy for me, I've been a fan of Kamala for a long time. Before her run for Senate in 2016.
I have wanted her as President since.
Joe will forever have my respect. He’s a decent, honorable man and a great President.
I will continue my efforts to raise the public's awareness of Project 2025 and to defeating Trump at the ballot box.
That’s the mission, do everything we can to get VP Harris elected as President, & to keep informing voters about Project 2025 & how it will affect their lives.
He definitely belongs in the big house but the way he's getting treated by SCOTUS and other judges, it's not looking very promising. Hopefully Judge Merchan will buck the trend and gives him the sentence he deserves.
Plenty of the conduct on which criminal liability is based cannot possibly qualify as "official acts" even under a broad reading of Trump v. US, I think.
Please don't say things that will be seized on by the right as "Dems have a vendetta against him!" Harris -- either as VP or as Prez -- can have zero role in charging him with any crime or in prosecuting him.
Judge Merchan will decide on his sentence for his conviction in the falsification-of-biz-records case. Juries will decide whether he's guilty in the three other pending cases, and the relevant judges will decide his sentence(s).
Me too, Bob, me too!! I’m 74, was all in on women’s liberation, the ERA, Gloria Steinem, burning my bras, etc. I had given up hope of living to see the first woman president. Now I am dancing & practically hysterical with JOY 🤩. I am so fired up now. President Biden has my respect, but I was sinking into despair with him staying in the race, I could just feel us losing.
I respect him even more for having the patriotism & courage to step aside & allow a new generation to carry us forward.
Gov Gretchen Whitmer could help bring Michigan in and she also takes absolutely NO SHIT from any freakazoids. And unlike Trump, she survived a REAL attempt on her life.
And, although most of his positions are left of center, he doesn't support an assault-weapons ban (I dislike that, but plenty of swing voters will like that); he's a deacon in his church; and he's young (47). At this time, he looks like the best choice.
It’s probably true, at least partly, but I think that that is a battle for after Inauguration Day. I like the idea of Whitmer, but I don’t know if she would be better help bringing Michigan’s electoral votes as VP or as governor. Newsom is not an option. My first choice would be Kelly and my second Beshear. Kelly wins out for me because he is a popular senator in a state that at best is purple and his gun control activism is what I’d like to see brought into a new administration.
AZ isn't purple -- it leans red. See the 538 website.
We can't afford to put Kelly's Senate seat at risk. Otherwise he'd be the best pick for her running mate.
If you don't already know about Beshear, I think you might like him.
1. Most of his positions are solid Dem, but he opposes an assault-weapons ban (that's good in the eyes of the voters that Dems want -- and his preference will be immaterial if we can get a Dem-majority Congress, which could pass a bill banning them).
2. He's a deacon in his church (VERY good for the chunk of voters who can't bring themselves to vote for djt but who view Dems as godless libs).
3. He's only 47, making the Dem ticket young-ish and invigorated/invigorating.
He is, yes. But among other things, we're trying to win over independents and (sigh) undecideds. I know--how can anyone BE undecided, when faced with Trump? But I'm assuming those centrists/wafflers wouldn't approve of a gay man on the ticket. It may be a hard enough sell to get them to accept a woman of color.
It's a bridge too far. There is still quite a few in this country that do not approve of gay people and it's not just the Evangelicals. There are still a few people around from my parent's generation (WWII) and I'm a Boomer. You need the Boomers gone and I think you will see a much more progressive country. Most people vote with their emotions, they don't alwayus take the time to research the candidates they're voting for. How many MAGA have any clue as to what the GOP is really running on? Hillary was whip smart, totally qualified to be President. I think a huge factor in the reason she lost was that people did not like her from the Clinton years. If it was just talent, she would have blown Trump away.
Yes, it absolutely *is* a bridge too far in the US of 2024, which is sad and infuriating. This country is socially conservative / backward compared to our peers (30+ other developed democracies).
This is why we still lack so much that they've had in place for years or decades: universal health care, a less-unfair tax code, educational standards and achievement, abortion policy, voting rights, gun safety, equal rights + protections for everyone who isn't a straight white man, sufficient housing, social housing, anti-price-gouging rules for landlords, a livable minimum wage, employers' obligations and workers' rights, paid time off, paid parental leave, action on the climate crisis (barring Biden's excellent but recent contribution), etc. etc. etc.
Fragile (white) men are responsible for nearly all our problems in America. Serial killings, domestic violence, MAGA, toxic masculinity, corporate greed, oppression of women, ad infinitum
Anybody who won't vote Pete because he is gay will already not vote for Kamala because she is a Black woman married to a Jew. We are not going to win over any of the bigots, we just have to outnumber them. Certainly we should not give them a pre-emptive veto or we shouldn't be nominating Kamala in the first place.
I think Andy Beshear is better, in part bc he's younger; he's active in his church; and he opposed an assault-weapons ban (which will draw some voters who would never vote for a Dem otherwise).
The goal of putting a Dem governor of a red state isn't to make that state favor Harris over djt, which will never happen in a solidly red stat like KY (or even in a pink state such as NC) -- it's to draw enough on-the-fence voters around the country such that at least one swing state or pink state (preferably more) favors Harris over djt.
That would take out a Dem governor who would almost certainly be replaced by a Republican (his Lt. Gov. would have the job until 2027 but then probably lose). Cooper is a different case because the NC governor's race is already happening now, and he is not running (term limited out) so he is free to take a different post.
True. But you play the hand you're dealt. You don't run a candidate that you know can't win just to say you're a progressive party. Compared to the political climate when I grew up (50's & 60's), we've come a long way. Of course, we have much further to go. Racism and misogyny are tough issues to tackle.
The thing about Mark Kelly is that he is an identical twin so if he gets ill (God forbid), his brother can sit in for him. :) Andy Beshear is governor of KY and he is youngish which would appeal to Gen Z’ers. We have to take them into account also.
I hate thinking your right personally I'd vote for a 2 women ticket in a heart beat 💓 ♥️ but it's country over party first, then maybe we can fix get rid of, the good ol' boy network problem this country still has.
Right now we need to beat Trump. I don't care if we run a chihuahua as VP if it beats Trump. We can worry about the diversity issues after the election. I think Pete is terrific.
71 million people voted for Trump. You can't dismiss his voters as a small number. I'm sure there are Trump voters who have no issue with someone being gay, just like there are Dems who have an issue with someone being gay. I feel that this isn't an election to do a lab experiment to see if nationally a gay person on the ticket could win. It's too important. Little by little, you're seeing gay candidates win. I just don't think it's the time to have Pete run in a national election. He's 42. There's more than enough time to put him out there nationally and have him run on a national ticket. Love to see him run against Vance!
Same. (I'm your age, Deborah.) I read a tweet that said, "I'm a lifelong Republican and I would vote for Joe Biden if he were in a coma." Now he doesn't have to!
Fragile or not, a good portion of the swing votes are Bannon-line voters, many of 'em old guys who are fed up with loony stories about Hannibal Lecter and real felony convictions.
If this were just for fun I'd like to see George Takei get the VP nomination.
If the rumors are true -- that Manchin was putting out feelers abut participating in an open convention (after Biden stepped down but before he anointed Harris) -- then Manchin's family needs to take away his car and boat keys.
Few Dems would vote for him, given his obstructionist bullshttt in the Senate, and few "anyone but djt" GOPs would vote for him bc he was a Dem for so long. Manchin is utterly delusional and has an enormous ego despite having done almost nothing worthwhile in his long life. He embodies the caricature of politicians as self-interested, greedy, power-hungry, and basically useless.
😄😂 personally, I’d classify is as a mini pad, but let’s not fuss! The people in the audience wearing the rat’s pillowcase, maxi pad, mini pad..whatever…made me laugh so hard, I cried. Seriously looked like aliens had landed for dear leader. There's another comical YouTube of a mega church preacher praying for trump’s ear! (Seriously). He forgets to pray for the dead & injured so a woman whispers in the preacher’s ear that he forgot to mention them! These people are psychotic to the nth degree!
Can you believe the unmitigated gall of Manchin thinking that he would just sidle back into the Democratic Party and try to mount a challenge to VP Harris? Marianne Williamson can “do a Jeff” and fuck all the way off her visualized stage as well. We’ve got this y’all! Now, let’s go! No more fiddley-fartin’ around.
I just saw where he’s thinking about challenging Kamala for the job? I say go pound sand Joe, you have fucked up enough shit already. Get on your boat and get the fuck out of here.
Another tRump croonie playing the see no evil ...not-see games . Their going to try everything because Kamelas a prosecutor of sex crimes and they're all in it deep . Crow, Thomas, Trump , and all the dominate powers players are going to be exposed and are running scared now ......👏👏👏👌👍
He should be stuffed down a coal mine, which could then be sealed, Big Bad John wise. "They never reopened that worthless pit/they just put a marble slab in front of it/on the top of the slab, these lines ran/at the bottom of this mine is a man who should have fucked off to Fuckistan."
Lisa59: Nailed it. And his pharmaceutical grifting daughter can beg dad to steer clear because a keen journalist will dig deeper and they'll be the Menendez family staring down some corruption time.
Kinzinger supports the disastrous economic policies that have destroyed the middle class over the past 43 years, have brought massive misery to about 140million Americans, and have therefore radicalized so many, leading to the awful tea party, the far-worse MAGA, and the truly disastrous P2025.
There is zero room for him in a govt that's trying to reverse this 43-year disaster. (I encourage you to read Robert Reich's 11-14-20 column in The Guardian, with some shocking stats from RAND about the GOP's wealth heist.)
I know that Kinzinger has paid a high price for doing the right thing and I feel for him, but he doesn't belong on this ticket or in this admin. And frankly, it's kind of disturbing that we're lauding him and the equally disastrous Cheney and Romney for doing what is basically the care minimum: supporting the rule of law and the Constitution / upholding their oath.
I totally agree with you!! Someone suggested Liz Cheney as the VP pick & I was like “Not only no, but FUCK NO” She is a hard-line Republican, hard-line forced birther, & she has called all Democrats baby killers & said we believe in killing babies after they are born!! Why in the world would any Dem ever even think that?? 🤮
Sen. Mark Kelly would make a great VP and deliver Arizona. Plus, the Governor of Arizona is a Democrat, and would name a Democrat to take his seat. Win win.
*Not* a win-win, because AZ is a light-red state and that Senate seat would probably go GOP in the 2026 special election that would be required, or the 2028 election that would be required bc that's when Kelly's term expires.
The goal of putting a Dem sen. from, or Dem governor of, a red state isn't to make that state favor Harris over djt, which will never happen in a solidly red state (KY) and probably won't happen in a light-red state (AZ) or pink state (NC -- pls see the 538 website for a listing of states by degree of color). The goal is to draw enough on-the-fence voters around the country such that at least one swing state or pink state (preferably more) favors Harris over djt.
Kelly could actively campaign for Beshear (who I think is the best pick at this point^), persuading the Arizonans who voted for him to vote for the ticket and thus deliver AZ for Harris.
^Beshear's pluses:
-- Most of his positions are favorable to Dems, but he opposes a ban on assault weapons, which will appeal to centrist or center-right voters who are iffy about Harris (his position will be immaterial if Congress were to pass an ass-weapons ban);
-- he's a deacon in his church (very appealing to centrist or center-right voters who view Dems as godless libs);
-- he's clearly good at consensus building bc he's been elected in red-red-red KY; and
Mark Kelly. White male married to a shooting survivor. Former astronaut who can be replaced in the senate by a democratic governor. Should help swing Arizona all the way blue.
Kelly's Senate term is up in 2026. When would a special election be if he's replaced by the Dem governor? AZ is iffy. Do we want to take the chance that a GOP would occupy his seat for 2 years if they win a special election? 1/20/25 - 1/20/27? You have to weigh that against how much benefit would he be to the ticket versus the possible loss of a Senate seat?
I’d pick Pete or Gov Whitmer but due to some fragile cishet white male voters it should probably be Mark Kelly, not that I’d be upset with that choice either
It's just not white, heterosexual men that might possibly vote against Pete because he's gay. If you use that logic, then no woman would be a Republican.
1. Can't take a chance on his Senate seat being won by a GOP. Yes, Hobbs would appoint a Dem replacement, but that person would have to win a special election in 2026 and win a regular election in 2028. AZ is still a light-red state -- too risky. (Pls see 538 website for list of states by degree of blue/red.)
2. There are other ways to deliver a state to Harris + ___ . For ex., Kelly -- a well-regarded sitting sen. -- could campaign vigorously for the Harris-Beshear ticket, persuading centrist / center-right Arizonans who voted for him to vote for that ticket, thus delivering AZ to Harris.
Beshear has no experience in federal politics, so he wouldn't be helpful to her as an advisor. Kari Lake would run for that Senate seat, so I am sure they could find a Democrat that could beat her.
like anyone cares about that. bush and cheney were not only from the same state, they literally were from the same neighborhood. Kamala would just have to say she lives in DC now.
They can be from the same state, but that state's electoral votes cannot go to both of them. President Harris and Vice President Vance would be an invitation to MAGA assassins.
Kristy, this is not true. There is nothing in the Constitution regarding this. It is a long held myth. However, it can get complicated by a close vote due to Electoral College. But I really do NOT believe this will be close. We’ll blow them out of the water!
You don't want two politicians from the same area of the country. The entire US is just not Cali or the west coast mentality. I've lived in upstate NY, Midwest and Nevada. Each state was almost like it's own country with food and mentality. You need to have a ticket to appeal to the majority of the country. The west and east coast mentality is not like the Midwest.
Deborah, I mainly don’t want the usual line of DNC thinking from yesteryear where they thought a liberal candidate would “balanced” with a centrist type. That won’t work for this. I’m fine with picking from two different states but they need to be strong anti-fascists. No centrist types. That’s what got us here.
There are a pretty good pool of possibilities but I hope we find out soon. This time we have a battle of Democracy Vs Fascism. I don’t actually think most people care where the candidate is from, as long as they will make bold moves to forever remove the orange FELON-deadly seditionist-rapist from our political world.
There absolutely is something in the Constitution about this. No state's electoral votes can go to two people from that state. Without California's electoral votes a Democratic win is impossible.
The goal of putting a Dem sen. from, or Dem governor of, a red state isn't to make that state favor Harris over djt, which will never happen in a solidly red state (KY) and probably won't happen in a light-red state (AZ) or pink state (NC). (Pls see the 538 website for a listing of states by degree of color.) The goal is to draw enough on-the-fence voters around the country such that at least one swing state or pink state (preferably more) favors Harris over djt.
I prefer Beshear over Cooper (someone better might emerge, but these are his pluses):
-- Most of his positions are favorable to Dems, but he opposes a ban on assault weapons, which will appeal to centrist or center-right voters who are iffy about Harris (those of us who want a ban shd remember that his position will be immaterial if Congress were to pass an ass-weapons ban);
-- he's a deacon in his church (very appealing to centrist or center-right voters who view Dems as godless libs);
-- he's clearly good at consensus-building bc he's been elected in red-red-red KY; and
Josh Shapiro would be branded an East Coast elite -- and he's Jewish, in a nation that's still fairly racist/antisemitic, so he won't draw the centrist/center-right voters we need. Ditto Newsom, who's seen as too liberal. And Mark Kelly, ideal in most ways, needs to hang on to his Senate seat -- AZ is still light-red, and his replacement (tho a Dem, appointed by the gov.) would have to win a 2026 special election and a 2028 general election. Too risky
Andy Beshear is the best choice at this point (someone better might emerge, but these are his pluses:
-- Most of his positions are favorable to Dems, but he opposes a ban on assault weapons, which will appeal to centrist or center-right voters who are iffy about Harris (hisplus for those who want a ban, as I do: his position will be immaterial if Congress were to pass an ass-weapons ban);
-- he's a deacon in his church (very appealing to centrist or center-right voters who view Dems as godless libs);
-- he's clearly good at consensus-building bc he's been elected in red-red-red KY; and
-- he's only 47.
The goal of putting a Dem sen. from, or Dem governor of, a red state isn't to make that state favor Harris over djt, which will never happen in a solidly red state (KY) and probably won't happen in a light-red state (AZ) or pink state (NC). (Pls see the 538 website for a listing of states by degree of color.) The goal is to draw enough on-the-fence voters around the country such that at least one swing state or pink state (preferably more) favors Harris over djt.
-- most of his positions are favorable to Dems, but he opposes a ban on assault weapons, which will appeal to centrist or center-right voters who are iffy about Harris (those of us who want a ban shd remember that his position will be immaterial if Congress were to pass an ass-weapons ban);
-- he's a deacon in his church (very appealing to centrist or center-right voters who view Dems as godless libs);
-- he's clearly good at consensus-building bc he's been elected in red-red-red KY; and
Here's my fantasy: Dems win a trifecta in November on the national level and blue wave the shit out of the state races; Vonshitzinpantz goes to jail for the rest of his life; the Magats crawl back into the holes from which they came; Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger rebuild the Republican party ala Teddy Roosevelt and Ike; all insurrectionists (I'm talking about you, Trumplican politicians) get booted out of Congress and the SCOTUS and go directly to jail right after public trials for treason. "And I think to myself, what a wonderful world...".
And while we're at it, get rid of the filibuster, expand the Supreme Court, pass MAJOR immigration reform (pick up all the parents w kids who've lived here for whatever amount of time, naturalize those folx, et voila! permanent D majority that actually reflects the majority of Americans.
Your fantasy is pretty close to mine in the concept of what fantasy is. Mine is to wake up the same size I was in high school and be young again. Sadly, I don't think either one of our fantasies will play out.
What happened with Teddy Roosevelt is that he got booted out of the party, and formed a "Progressive" party, and all the Progressives and the Roosevelts went over to the Democratic side (the first half of the Big Switch, completed by the Dixiecrats switching over to the Republican side).
Liz Cheney IS a republican with republican ideas…hell no! She didn’t endorse Biden. She did the right thing on J6 committee but that doesn’t mean she’s become a Democrat at all!
She also voted with trump 90+% of the time. No fucking republicans. Just once I’d like to see Dems remember they’re the party of Roosevelt. And not Teddy. 😎
Liz Cheney could be a uniter. Non-maga republicans must certainly respect her as do most democrats for putting country over everything to stand up to Trump. That is rare for ANY politician. As VP she wouldn't have the power to do much damage, policy -wise. Dems need as strong a team as possible to beat the devil.
Liz Cheney would kill the win. NO REPUBLICANS on OUR ticket. She went along with most of trump’s agenda! She is very much a right winger. Just because she did the right thing for the investigative committee doesn’t mean she would unite our party. I appreciate that she believes in our laws, that she sought evidence. A VP can often caste a deciding vote and would take over in the case of death or incapacity of the Pres. No Way.
Here's my dream ticket: Kamala Harris and Mark Kelly. They are a perfect equation. Mark Kelly is almost a reincarnation of President Biden - the battle wounds of watching your wife almost die a violent death from gun violence and standing by her side every step of the way is pure Biden-esq dignity, compassion, loyalty, and yes, love. This is a real man. He is empathy. He is not afraid of having a very smart wife. He knows how to maneuver around powerful women. He has his own accolades. Astronaut? In America, astronaut is the person who touches heaven. The bravest of the brave. The Right Stuff. Seriously, Mark is our guy.
Well, I know it won't be a Republican (they can never again be trusted) and Shapiro dedicated himself to PA and shouldn't leave them after only 2 years and we need him in PA (although I love him!) Mark Kelly doesn't have enough experience, Beshear? Maybe. Doug Jones has been mentioned, I like Chris Murphy but maybe another day. It's going to be really hard because we need a lot of these governors to stay where they are and defend their blue hold. UGH! It's going to be interesting. Whoever it is they will have to be white and male for sure lol. Can't have two strong women!
I hear Roy Cooper's name being tossed around - he may not be bad, he's terming out as Gov as NC, which could easily be a swing state, and he's an older white male to calm those other older white males. My dream pick would be Pete B, but I think that might be a bit much for some of the less liberal swing voters.
I like many of them, but Shapiro from PA would probably cement that state for dems - and trump needs that state, so fuck him. Kelly would be good too but we can’t lose a dem senator, even tho AZ’s process is for the governor to appoint someone from the person’s own party.
"Shouldn’t the Republican Party be reimbursed for fraud".... I wouldn't have believed that if you hadn't posted it for all to see. JFC!!!! They are melting ALL the way down. For a minute, I thought Stephen Miller was gonna have a heart attack. 😂😂😂 This is great to see them all freaking out. And my decision to cancel the fucking New York Times continues to be the right one! Great start to Monday, Jeff... we all love ya, man! 💙✌️
If the Republican Party is reimbursed for fraud it can turn around a pay this country for putting a Russian operative in the White House and re-electing multiple Russian operatives to congress, some of whom have enabled compromised judges to serve too.
That was almost the best part, but I think "they filled in circles" really did it for me. That's what I look forward to most on election days - filling in the circles.
Be interesting to hear the racial attacks. Vance's wife is 100% Indian and Hindu and Kamala is 50% Indian. A slippery slope when both your candidates/families aren't lily white and Christian.
Can you imagine how Joe felt having to fight COVID again and make this decision when he felt like shit? How will you feel when you are 81? Lester Holt will still not say anything about all the lies that Trump spews every time he opens his mouth.
Do you know that JD Vance is not his real name? That he didn't grow up with hillbillies, he was in a upper middle class family in Ohio and went to college. So why did the fake President choose a fake person as his running mate? Because JD Vance is just as FAKE as Trump is.
He's a puppet of Peter Thiel, a ridiculously wealthy and stupid gay "libertarian". Thiel and Vance (if that is his name today) are using MAGA for their own agenda. Which has nothing to do with any MAGA who is not also a multi-millionaire.
His name wasn’t JD Vance when he lived in Middletown. It’s JD Bowman. My aunt grew up in Middletown; the residents who remember JD think he’s a lying little shit.
I will be 81 in 2032. I am not going to make any conjecture on how I will feel then. It depends on lots of things. I have doubts about it if the Toddler King gets back in. Fake is exactly what a puppet is.
Imagine how outraged & explosively mad Sloppy Steve is today. Jailed for contempt, no podcasting privileges. No way to gather his anti-American traitors to plot new strategy. Cellbound. Helpless. Angry. Impotent.
I’m 84, feel pretty good except for arthritis. I know Joe is capable of continuing his brilliant agenda, but I also will support Kamala because he endorsed her, and also because she will be a great president.
No one should question Pres. Joe’s understanding of politics-his timing was perfect in stealing the show from the 🍊/🤮 convention bump. They can’t cry loud enough! 😂🤣😂
So-go ahead and spend all of your time whining about how Joe ‘should resign if he can’t run again’, he’s going to Presidentin’ the F’ out of the rest of this term.
I we are all going to point and laugh right out loud at them. Seriously, I need a laugh track to carry with me. There’s a guy parked in the lot at my gym; he’s got the great big black truck with LDFF riding in the club cab, flags about Brandon. I want to stand at his truck, play a laugh track and point. I could draw a crowd. And I’ll betcha these guys are all crying about all that money they spent on those stupid flags. Bunch of numpties.
I'd love to make a red, white & blue sign "KAMALA 2024". Large to cover my entire back window. I fear my back window would be shot out, or destroyed. Blue dot in deep red area.
I agree - I think this was planned by the master. I appreciate everything Joe Biden has done as president, bur leaving Republicans sputtering is the best.
Yeah. Remember that he has immunity for all he does for the next few months. The first thing should be bringing charges against Thomas. That's an easy one. Alito, too. Those scumbags are so corrupt. He can Executive Order the shit out of things.
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 Yr post was absolutely 💯!! I felt saddened that President Biden decided to hand over the reins, but I’m relieved, as well. The media and his fair weather friends were sapping every last ounce of his energy; it was terrible! But, if yr gong to go, Dark Brandon certainly showed them how to do it! So I’m all the way behind VP Harris; that’s all we need to be thinking about and working on! This can’t be an IF she wins; this has to be a WHEN Kamala wins!! Amen!🙏🏾🇺🇸🙏🏾
Losing Joe like this, the only positive for me is that we will now refer to OLD, Demented Donnie. I was Biden, all the way and I can't express my disappointment enough. He is a great president.
I love how this move fucks over the MSM and forces them to give some coverage, and took the oxygen out of the room from their dumb-ass convention and the fake supposed assassination attempt.
Just finished listening to HCR, and she talked about how the Republicans walk down a dark alley, and Biden came along and slammed the door shut behind them. They are stuck with JD Vance and Befuddlepants after the convention. The R’s are now in complete panic mode….this gives me great joy.
I’m thinking all of this has been orchestrated between the administration and the Democratic leadership for at least a month now. It’s brilliant. And I wonder if either tRUMP or Steven Miller will stroke out long before November. Good lord I think Miller was foaming at the mouth and nearly incoherent.
Love the start of the column…and the rest of it. I prepared to live and die with Biden. The fact he immediately endorsed Harris is good enough for me that Biden feels she is up for and best suited to the job. Biden is a rock star: great President, politician extraordinaire and a great man. And the politicians and the people who vote Republican who don’t see this can, as you say, fuck all the way off.
Meanwhile, the Biden supporters who never waivered are pivoting to support Harris 100%. But the "Joe must go" crowd are whining that we damaged our chances by supporting Biden as long as we did. They can also fuck all the way off!
My first thought upon waking up this morning as that Joe really fucked the Sunday morning infotainment peeps. LtfOL!
"Sending out a press release on Sunday afternoon, after the morning talk shows, totally screwed the media. No video clips, no “breaking news,” no chance for pundits to comment on how he sounded, looked, walked, etc. No chance to schedule guests to pick him apart as he spoke. He totally starved them of clicks and eyeballs, in repayment for them starving his candidacy of positive coverage purely for the sake of clicks and eyeballs".
“Biden never had covid. He’s a threat to Democracy”. Sure fuckwit, that makes sense. I’ve never had it and I support democracy. Last time I checked Trump had covid and he wants to be a dictator. 🙄
You nailed it Jeff. So now, we must endure the misogyny and racism of the GOP—strike that, MAGA, not GOP. Sebastian Gorka the exemplar of patriotism and manhood remarked ‘Her [Harris] only qualification is a vagina and skin color.” Great campaign add. Pretty sure that wraps up the women’s vote. Basically, Joe pretty much outmaneuvered the MAGA crowd. As for the Orange guy, wow, just wow. As usual clueless and classless. VP Harris, you’ll rock it.
"watching Stephen Miller freak out made me so happy" — Ms. Spouse
My hubby, former Republican, laughed, then said he wished Dems would pick Buttigieg for VP. Not for the 'tweak the normies' fun, though. He really likes Mayor Pete. :D
I hope to see POTUS Pete in my lifetime. But a Bi-Racial woman with a happily married gay man. For now, VP needs a strong, major swing state man.
He's going, he'll have his time, and I look forward to it
Mayor Pete is like a fresh breeze on a hot day, but he needs to run for Congress to get some bona fides before taking another step.
I'd love to see him go back to Indiana and run for one of those Senate seats, both held by Reputhuglicans I've never heard of. One of those seats should be coming up for election sometime in the next few years.
Indiana was Blue at times when I lived there years ago. Now it's Red and more Red. Not a good idea for him for 2 reasons- being a Dem and being gay.
I'm dreaming, I guess!
Indiana can be a hard nut to crack for a gay Democrat.
Absolutely, I know it…but maybe as a former South Bend mayor and a “star” on FOX, who knows?
There were some decent Democratic Senators and Governors back in the pre-Reagan era, and Republican Senator Richard Lugar wasn’t a flaming asshole!
No, if not V.P., I see Sec. Pete B. as Harris' Secretary of State.
Nice.
The Governor of Pennsylvania with 19 electoral votes and his history of just beating a MAGA, for example.
Pete was my choice in 2020 too. There's a time a-comin for him. Rising star.
I totally agree! It’s not about ego we want. It’s about who can WIN!
💯. This isn’t the election we can afford to take any chances with.
Supposedly he has a relatively high approval rating among Fox viewers. I like it that he has gone into the fire many times and comes out having slain their pundits. He is also the most competent cabinet member Joe has.
Pete earned the nickname "Slayer Pete" 🏆 for badly embarrassing Fox interviewers. But always respectfully, with a super calm demeanor. Fox is so F'ing stupid to keep booking him! He makes them look dumb as a box of rocks. But he's Sooooo nice about it!!!
I’ve seen clips of him in action. He is so pleasant and patient while he cuts them to ribbons!
Certainly the most effortlessly articulate.
Mayor Pete is great. Sadly, we cannot have a woman and a gay on the same ticket. we're not there yet. He will get a bigger role in the admin.
Unfortunately too many Americans need to accept a Woman and Black at that, Obama was a shock for many, imagine a Woman! And I Love Pete! Too big of a step both together, I wish! They would be awesome 💙
Most of the bigots are Trump voters.
It's a shame, but we HAVE to WIN. I agree with Arne. Big Pete fan. 2028?
Pete is 42. He has many years ahead of him to be President. 2032 gives Kamala 8 years as president.
We’re not there because people like you keep saying it.
Yes KL, when I tried to please everybody by imagining what I thought they wanted, I ended up pleasing nobody. Lesson learned and not repeated.
I feel he is more needed where he is as Secretary often Transportation. He is still young enough to go for POTUS in the future
My first thought was that Buttigieg as Kamala's veep would be unbeatable. 💙🩵💙🩵💙
In this crowd? Sure.
Out there among the Trump-sucking scuttlefish in *das Großes amerikanisches Kernland*? Not this year, that's for sure!
yeah but lets face it, the toxic magas are not gonna flip for any democrat ticket no matter who is running
Oh, the MAGAts are beyond help!
I was talking about the "normal people"—the ones who voted for both Obama AND Trump, and then voted for Biden in 2020 because he was the more "reasonable" choice than Donnie Diapershit. They were inclined to vote for Biden in 2024 as well (unlike the Party Elites and MSM types, along with the Billionaire Donors!)...and for now, they're keeping their options open. Trump's getting more unhinged by the day, but Harris is a Black Woman—I mean, an "unknown quantity"!
She's neither the eloquent public speaker Obama is, nor did she make much of an impression during most of her time as VP. Admittedly she's been stepping up in the past six months or so, but will that be enough to overcome mainstream voter unease over how Biden suddenly "retired"? If she retains, or better improves, her standing between now and post-Convention then I'll breathe easier, but I'm still afraid now that the Democratic Party Circular Firing Squad has come out onto the field, they're not going away until they destroy any vestigate of unity or even common sense that Democrats might have...!
Every single democrat I know instantly accepted Kamala as the pick. I think she will destroy Neo-Hitler.
Not now.Sadly, not now.We need to be rid of the fascists first.Then changes that we want will be possible.
I sure hopes she picks Sec. Pete B. The ultimate DEI ticket! Nothing would be more appropriate, competent, and effective.
VP's (on either side) don't fair well in follow-up elections. He's better off honing his skills to take Kamala's place in 2028.
No, 2032. A President Harris should get a full 2 terms
I do like the way you think! Although the sad reality is that the festering pustule that is the current more right-leaning Republicans will likely never go away. So while that butt-boil continues to expand, at some point the general electorate will tire of the Democrats and vote in a Republican majority.... and at that point it will be game over. I hate to say it, but this is just a matter of time. :(
I hope "they filled in circles" becomes Stephen Miller's tag line for the rest of his miserable life.
That was one delicious freak-out whine, and he sounded a bit shrill I think.
I loved it as well. Jeff’s meme with the pacifier is a great one for Miller.
I still think they should check his hard drive and crawl-space, he's got that "serial killer" vibe.
I agree, wonder if any of his neighbors have noticed any weird odors??
Love your snark!
Yes. That's the word. I sent the thousand word Drumpf description off to friends. Such a satisfying sentence. A five-to-ten in Dannemora would be a satisfying sentence too. LOL
Yes! And a wonderful piece today Jeff! BUT once again my lunch nearly got shot across the room! "show us on the doll where Kamala hurt you, Ross." Come on!
Lol!!!!
Through your nose? 🤣 Jeff is good for that!
👍👍👍👍
oh me too...whiny baby voice.
I'm with Ms. Spouse. I watched that over and over again.
I also note that yesterday was a record-breaking day of donations for the Democratic Party and their candidate. SMALL DOLLAR DONATIONS! That's one of the things I look at. Grassroots support. Were I running, I'd rather have $1M in small donations than $2M from a single, wealthy donor. It indicates FAR more votes.
It's like manna from heaven
I loved how his voice became as sheill as Judge Dooms in Roger Rabbit
Good one! I can't look at his dead, serial killer eyes, so I rely on other comments.
Miller is such an evil putz! I wrote him off long ago as a member of our tribe.
Miller is Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels incarnate.
M L-B (CA): p-word is perfect. Love it. Thanks!
he totally lost his shit there — SO much fun!
He is a weenie
I love you, and your spouse's writing!
Sweet!
He looks like a cross between Nosferatu and Eichmann. Really the worst person. I read that even the Republicans know that people don't react well to him, so they try to keep him out of sight.
Nikki said during her campaign that “we can’t have Kamala Harris for president if Joe can’t go on as being president “ or something like that. I wondered why she was so against Kamala-no reason given from her so I filled in the blanks. One of Nikki’s PACs has now endorsed Kamala-you can’t make this stuff up! 😆
Anybody who runs against Orange Jesus as she did, knowing his felony/misogynist/fraud/lying baggage then kissing his cinnamon ring doesn't even qualify for a job at the Pretzel Maker in the Kearney, Nebraska Hilltop Mall.
Does any Nikki $$ go to a person endorses?
I’m not sure but it would seem that if the PAC is now endorsing Kamala that they will at least send some of the money to Kamala’s campaign
so, who's everyone's pick for Kamala's veep?
Can't be a woman or a person of color, so we need a white male from a swing state. My money is on Mark Kelly (although my dream VP would be Pete)
I like Mark Kelly too.I thought about Josh Shapiro-he’s great too-but Kelly has the astronaut card, the military card,the husband of Gabby Giffords card and is not gay, black, Muslim/Jewish or other religions not Christian, and most of all he is NOT a 36 count felon.
As a Pennsylvanian, I can vouch for Shapiro’s qualifications, but we need him here in Pennsylvania a bit longer
He has already pledged his support for Kamala.
Fellow PA resident here. I agree!
I like him, too, but I wonder if right now the time is right for a Jew. Israel is in such bad odor at the moment.
It’s not the right time for another avowed Zionist, that’s what lost the younger voters & quite a few POC voters. David Hogg has already warned against doing that.
I agree. His time will come.
Please don’t take our Mark Kelly. We need him very badly right here in AZ.
Arizona here, we need him. Wouldn’t him departing be an advantage to scary Kari?
"if Kelly became vice president, Democrats would need to fill his seat, potentially risking it flipping to the Republican column and imperiling the party’s chances of Senate control. Arizona’s Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs would almost certainly appoint a Democrat to fill Kelly’s seat. But then that person would have to run in a special election in 2026 and again in 2028 for a full term." - Huff Po
Thanks. I was wondering how that process would happen if Mark Kelly is VP nominee, with DEM gov appointing a Dem to fill his seat.
Also apparently in AZ the Governor has to call a special election to fill the seat.
Yeah, the argument against is that he'd be replaced by a Republican governor.
Our Governor in AZ, Katie Hobbs, is a strong Dem, so we have that going for us if Kelly is selected as a presidential running mate. Bush took our previous Dem Governor from us for his first Secretary of Homeland Security, and we had two GOP governors for years after that before we got Katie in!
I think you meant Obama--Obama took the AZ Dem Gov into his cabinet!
AZ Gov Katie Hobbs is a Democrat.
My mistake!
🏆🏆🏆. If that happens or is suspected in maga world, OMG, can you imagine #Turd trying to articulate the issue? 🤯⚰️
He’s not sure that asylum has two meanings!
OMG! I love this! This is the type of thing MAGA would come up with! It would be satisfying to beat them at their own game.
Last night "Proof of Life" was trending on Xitter because the MAGA/Q conspiracy theorists are speculating about Joe and whether he's still alive.😵💫
What happens when POTUS reappears after Covid? Can Dems demand proof of life for #OrangeTurd? 🧐
*chuckle*
Makes me sad that being Jewish makes Josh Shapiro possibly slip off VP list. Appreciate details on Mark Kelly, that AZ's DEM gov would replace him with a Dem. A swing state too.
It makes me sad that several of the top prospects would not pass the muster from certain groups. I love Buttigieg but would fear that his being gay would not work. Same with Shapiro being Jewish. We all know that racism and sexism is alive and well in our country, sadly. We need the perfect candidate for VP. I am hoping with time, a gay/Jewish/Muslim/ and other persons who are NOT WASP can hold the highest offices in the land. I think the younger generations will see this happen in their lifetimes, boomers, not so much.
I'm a Boomer and I agree. I'm to the point that all I wish for my remaining years is that we never, ever elect a GOP president again. The diversity elected officials will come later than my generation. I also think we will elect a gay president before we ever elect an atheist. Right now all I want is Trump gone. Never to see his ugly face again or hear that whiny voice. I don't have a bucket list anymore as far as politics is concerned. The threat is so great right now, that all that needs to happen in the near future is for him to lose. We also need to win Congress.
I'm for Beshears as Veep. A popular Democrat governor in a red state.
As far as electing an atheist (I'm agnostic), with Separation of Church and State, I would LOVE to see a candidate run while never bringing their faith, or lack of faith, into the public arena.
We're gonna have a Jewish First Gentleman.
Exactly! So why are people worried about a Jewish VP pick? There is no “perfect “ person.
The people who wouldn't vote for Harris because her running mate is a Jew are the kind of people who were voting for Trump anyway. So no loss!
Because you need the youth vote and right now, the war in Israel/Gaza is a touchy subject with many college students supporting Gaza. You want to appeal to the broadest base you can right now.
Fwiw, I think the presence of a Jewish VP in addition to a Jewish SG could lose the votes of mild bigots (= not thrilled about a Jewish SG but that's not a deal-breaker) or people who are distraught about the treatment of the Palestinians.
(Yes, I know that the SG has zero official duties, but bigots and semi-bigots ain't rational thinkers ... )
Yippee!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳 This 65+ SWF yearns for more diversity!! Our DC WH, SCOTUS & Congress need to look like real America diversity-wise!
I want my elected officials to behave with integrity and reasonable domestic/foreign policies. Yes, diversity is important, but just because you have a minority in an important role, doesn't mean that the above will be the end result. Look at Thomas on the SC. Look at Menendez. What about the minorities that are Trump supporters? Same with women now in what used to be male roles. MTG, Bobo, Marsha - all women. I'd take a male any day over them. I've also noticed that when women are in certain male roles, they take on more male characteristics that we don't want. The warm, fuzzy mom stuff goes out the window. You see naked ambition, greed, ruthlessness, just like with some men. You won't be able to succeed in that toxic world unless you adapt to the environment. So I think it would be great if the US finally gets into the 21st century and elects a woman president. But that is not my absolute goal - I want a decent president, male or female.
Excellent! Diversity 🥳🥳🥳
Shapiro has plenty of time to make his mark in politics. I think it's nice that we have such a good group to pick from.
And he's from Arizona. Big plus.
The younger voters will absolutely turn against Kamala if she chooses Josh Shapiro. He is an avowed Zionist & would only be swapping 1 Zionist for another one. That’s a hard no. David Hogg has warned the Dems about it.
I think Mark Kelly is the best and most logical choice to keep the electorate Biden brought in. I also agree with Heather Cox Richardson. We have a superb cabinet in place and we should not touch it for now. Keep these people doing the work they’ve been doing with Joe.
Good point. And Sen. Kelly would be a good choice. My heart belongs to Pete!!!
Gabby Giffords, his wife would also be a wonderful asset on the campaign trail. Unless she could be appointed to fill his seat in AZ!
NRA would melt the fuck down...does anyone think this could trigger more nuts than usual?
She was horribly wounded and cannot hold office anymore. Her tragedy was one of the main reasons that her husband ran for office.
I get the feeling Gabby isn't 100% recovered after being shot. I doubt you'll see her run for office again.
Poor Gabby was hit in the forehead. She is permanently disabled and will not be in elected office. But she and Mark formed a gun control advocacy PAC. They are both gun owners but also are realists. BIg difference from the right wing ammosexuals
I'd not heard "ammosexuals" before. Thanks!
I guess I was wondering whether that might keep him from wanting to be considered as VP.
Would it trigger more gun lunatics than normal.
I always am getting emails to contribute to Gabby's anti-gun PAC, which I have. And this morning, she's been sending out emails asking for donations for Kamala.
I'm sure other Dems have gotten all this as well...I'm just speculating about all of this. I have not answers!
I'm more worried about the possibility of losing a Dem senator. His replacement would be a Dem (appointed by the current Dem governor), but then the replacement would have to run in a special election in 2026, I've read, and even if the Dem replacement were to win that, they would have to run in 2028 (when Kelly's current term ends). And, per the 538 website, AZ still leans GOP, albeit less so than many of the GOP-leaning states.
Kelly is perfect in every other way; if not for the potential loss of his Dem Senate seat, I'd love to see him as her VP.
Sen Kelly is a stud. 375 carrier landings as a Naval aviator. Smart and sensible
Sure beats Vance's military career as a correspondent. There's bring in the military and them there's being IN the military. I'd put Kelly as the latter and Vance as the former.
Mos def! I won't denigrate Vance's service since I'm not a veteran, but Kelly is the real deal who did the dangerous stuff. Very dangerous. Nerves of steel, intestinal fortitude, the right stuff, all in spades
Exactly. I think Mark Kelly would be excellent. Arizona have Republicans who voted for Biden in 2020 and might now be adrift.
I like Mark Kelly too. Especially since Katie Hobb’s, Arizona’s Democratic governor, can appoint another Democrat to replace him in the Senate.
But keep in mind that the replacement would have to run again in 2028 (and I think also in 2026, in a special election because of having been appointed rather than elected) -- and that AZ still leans GOP.
I would ***love*** to see Sen. Kelly as VP Harris's running mate, but the qualities and CV that make him perfect for that spot also made him perfect as a winner in AZ. He's a rare bird; Hobbs would have trouble finding someone like him who supports Dem priorities but is also palatable to GOPs.
Also, re having to run again & again, Sen Raphael Warnock did it. Not fun, but doable.
Tim Wahls is actually pretty darn cool. They’ve had him on msnbc several times over the past few days. He’s humble & plain spoken, he’s against school vouchers, pro choice, has 2 daughters age 23 & 26 who keep him informed about SM, especially what’s happening on TikTok
Exactly. He's also a strong candidate for gun reform. Former military as well. I saw some Biden Republicans who helped bring out the 2020 vote absolutely enraged and complaining about Harris's record as AG. Kelly could help bring them out again.
Buttigieg was my very first thought. What a ticket!
I know, but we can't do it. We're not there yet. Pete can be Secretary of State.
I love ❤️ Secy Pete!! He is smart as a whip & articulate as hell. He would make an excellent Sec of State, he speaks at least 5 languages, maybe 7.
I would like to see governors of swing states considered… PA, MI. All-woman ticket could be a winner this year. Women are mad! I know I am and so are the girl dads. I like Pete but I think another cabinet role would be better and not give an easy target to the big bully.
Pete won't bring any swing voters to the campaign, and that has to be the primary goal. In addition, his being gay will turn off some; sad but true that lots of bigots still roam the earth.
"Pete won't bring any swing voters to the campaign"? He is the only Democrat I can think of who ever got a standing ovation from a Fox News audience.
Anyone else waiting for a YUGE maga spontaneous combustion when they absorb VP Harris is a half-Black, half Asian Bi-Racial WOMAN OF COLOR? Watch out for exploding maga brains, public wailing, increased 5150 mental health involuntary hospitalizations. #Harris2024 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris
As someone said on Xitter, "God saved Donald Trump so he could lose to a black woman."
God saved him too so a black judge x2 & a black D.A,. can send him to prison. I'd call that the Rapture.
Perfect? I am LOVING Fani too
AND Judge Juan Merchan, of Hispanic descent, ready to sentence turd soon!! I despise racism. The Universe/Karma balancing the scales, with a side of Irony. 🇺🇸⚖️🗽
Thank you for the first laugh I’ve had since I read that Biden stepped down.
Bravo! 😂😂😂. 🏆🏆🏆
Let's make it so!
😂😂😂
They have to tread carefully about her ethnic background. Vance's wife is 100% Indian. Be interesting to see what comments are made. I know there was talk that she (Harris) wasn't legally born here. WTF. I know Oakland can be a little strange, but it is still the US. Just kidding if you live in Oakland. We have your football team and soon will get your baseball team :)
The MAGA crowd tried that birther crap with Nikki also, they are so despicable
Hopefully we will ignore that moldy "red meat" and move along on any birther bull pucky. 🐂
Best own ever!
Today 7/27 “The Villages” is the top trender on Xitter; over 200 golf carts are rallying for Kamala in Florida. A place we all thought was totally Trump city.
FL''s The Villages is ultra-maga.
I was worried it might be a set up. Like Tulsa, when Tic Tokers reserved 10,000 seats, and then stayed home. It was a YUGE embarrassment. Did Kamala go to FL yet?
I disagree. While I think Kelly is great, that opens a seat for senate in Arizona, and that would likely be a net pick up for the R's.
That's been my first thought. Beshear would be a much better pick and might have some downstream impact on the race to replace McConnell.
We also need somebody from the East Coast, from either a Blue or Red state. AZ is too closely aligned with the South West / Western US. He’d make a great VP, but needs to keep his Senate seat.
Respectfully disagreeing with one point: A blue-state pick would bring her zero new voters.
I don't yet know much about Roy Cooper, but he's 67 -- probably a minus for young voters, who (rightly, I think) are frustrated by the political gerontocracy that has been insufficiently concerned about the climate catastrophe, about insufficient housing, about price-gouging by landlords, and other issues that degrade the lives of the young.
Andy Beshear is interesting (and only 47yo). Most of his positions are at least somewhat left of center; he's a deacon in his church; and he doesn't support an assault-weapon ban (to me that's a bad stance, but we know that many Murkans like it). He could bring in some voters who dislike djt but who typically turn away from Dem candidates.
I agree. We need the seat. think seriously about Andy Beshears, popular Dem governor in a red state. Perfect fit.
good point
The Dem Gov Hobbs would appoint a Dem to fill his seat.
That depends on whether Kari Lake has sufficiently beclowned herself that she can't even pick up enough Republican votes.
Kaine didn't work the last time we tried something like that. fortune favors the bold.
But Kaine was *blah*in every way, and Kelly isn't. He has vigor, and he has an amazing CV -- not just former military but a former astronaut (that's cool; that's heroic).
I'd be 100% behind Kelly as the running mate if not for the likely flip of his Senate seat to a GOP. (Gov. Hobbs would appoint a Dem, but the appointee would have to run in a special election in 2026 -- and AZ trends red, per the 538 website.)
I'm with you. Also I think AZ is going blue going forward. The gop there is nuts.
Pete would be my first choice too, but he’s got a small child — you do have to admire his priorities… :) Mark Kelly would be my next choice — I’d settle for seeing Gabby now and then, but Kelly is smart and capable and a good guy even on his own.
I think the babies would be a major plus.
No. Mark Kelly is a Senator. We have to hold the Senate.
The Gov appoints the vacant seat, AZ Gov is (D) Katie Hobbs
This exactly!!!
I've gotten my dream already. Kamala for President.
Now I will work my ass off to make sure Trump and Project 2025 are defeated.I will redouble my efforts.
Joe will forever have my respect, but I have a candidate I never thought would be on the ballot in Kamala.
Let's get to work. We have history to make.
We are so past due for the first woman president!
By decades.
It has to be the right woman. Just wanting a woman to be president - you could get MTG, Boo Boo or Marsha. I really don't care about the gender - I want the one whose policies I agree with.
Yes! The right, competent, qualified woman.
I think Kamala is a great choice.
If Mexico can elect a woman, why can't we?
We haven't yet because the US -- which leads in certain ways, such as technical innovation -- is a socially conservative and frankly backward country.
This is why we lag behind our peers (in the group of about 30+ developed democracies) with regard to universal health care, a less-unfair tax code, educational standards and achievement, abortion policy, voting rights, gun safety, women's rights, civil rights, employers' obligations and workers' rights, paid time off, paid parental leave, etc. etc. etc.
That said, I think we WILL elect a woman in 2024! President Kamala Harris.
I said we’re past due for electing a woman. Why are you asking If Mexico can, why can’t we? (And we did elect Hillary)
Unfortunately, until we pass a Constitutional Amendment to get rid of the EC, that kind of nonsense will just keep happening.
The EC & the Senate are both counter-democratic institutions.
We did elect a woman president-Hillary Clinton. She won the popular vote. trump was selected, not elected…just like W.
At least eight years overdue...
We definitely have our work cut out for us but Kamala can do this. The fact that she's already raised quite a bit of money and his assholiness along with the rest of the GOP Howler monkeys are losing their shit, shows how scared they are about her candidacy. Although many of us were pulling for Joe, this re-energized ticket could be what finally gets the demented flatulent felon out of politics and back to Mar a Lardo for good.
I agree, Kamala won't be intimidated by Trump, she's dealt with his type before. She scares the shit out of him.
Yesterday was tough for many of us. In Marine Corps parlance, embrace the suck and move the f*ck on. The game has changed. We can adapt faster than they can.
It's easy for me, I've been a fan of Kamala for a long time. Before her run for Senate in 2016.
I have wanted her as President since.
Joe will forever have my respect. He’s a decent, honorable man and a great President.
I will continue my efforts to raise the public's awareness of Project 2025 and to defeating Trump at the ballot box.
Everything else i is just a distraction to me.
That’s the mission, do everything we can to get VP Harris elected as President, & to keep informing voters about Project 2025 & how it will affect their lives.
Not Mar-a-Lardo; prison. I suspect the Orange Lizard can already hear the bars slamming behind him.
He definitely belongs in the big house but the way he's getting treated by SCOTUS and other judges, it's not looking very promising. Hopefully Judge Merchan will buck the trend and gives him the sentence he deserves.
Plenty of the conduct on which criminal liability is based cannot possibly qualify as "official acts" even under a broad reading of Trump v. US, I think.
The orange shitgibbon needs to go to prison, and Kamala is just the woman to send his ass to jail! 💙🌊
Please don't say things that will be seized on by the right as "Dems have a vendetta against him!" Harris -- either as VP or as Prez -- can have zero role in charging him with any crime or in prosecuting him.
Judge Merchan will decide on his sentence for his conviction in the falsification-of-biz-records case. Juries will decide whether he's guilty in the three other pending cases, and the relevant judges will decide his sentence(s).
Thanks.
Good point. Let's not give GOP a single talking point.
May you be a prophet.
And his defeat opens the prison cell doors wide. DOJ & efforts to toss pending cases will be off limits to him.
There’s nothing that misogynistic racist hates more than a strong, black woman and nothing I like more than seeing one beat him.
I’m behind Kamala all the way.
She is my first choice for the position.
Let’s all row in the same direction, working to defeat Trump and Project 2025 at the ballot box.
🏆🏆🏆🏆
Me too, Bob, me too!! I’m 74, was all in on women’s liberation, the ERA, Gloria Steinem, burning my bras, etc. I had given up hope of living to see the first woman president. Now I am dancing & practically hysterical with JOY 🤩. I am so fired up now. President Biden has my respect, but I was sinking into despair with him staying in the race, I could just feel us losing.
I respect him even more for having the patriotism & courage to step aside & allow a new generation to carry us forward.
Joe Biden and George Washington are the only two presidents to walk away from the power of the presidency solely for the good of the country.
Joe will always have my profound respect.
I love Kamala she'll be great.
Gov Gretchen Whitmer could help bring Michigan in and she also takes absolutely NO SHIT from any freakazoids. And unlike Trump, she survived a REAL attempt on her life.
No, sorry but it can't be two intelligent women. It has to be a white man for fragile male votes.
I hate that this is true, but yeah, it's true
Beshear, he's popular in RED state.
Beshear delivers Kentucky and may siphon some votes in Ohio. Works for me.
If I thought for one instant that would turn Kentucky blue, I’d be all for it, but it won't.
On the other hand, Pennsylvania looks to be a margin-of-error race, and Josh Shapiro, with his 62% approval rating, should put it in the win column.
That's my pick!
He'd be a good choice.
And, although most of his positions are left of center, he doesn't support an assault-weapons ban (I dislike that, but plenty of swing voters will like that); he's a deacon in his church; and he's young (47). At this time, he looks like the best choice.
He may change his position when he's out of the Deep South. It's possible.
It’s probably true, at least partly, but I think that that is a battle for after Inauguration Day. I like the idea of Whitmer, but I don’t know if she would be better help bringing Michigan’s electoral votes as VP or as governor. Newsom is not an option. My first choice would be Kelly and my second Beshear. Kelly wins out for me because he is a popular senator in a state that at best is purple and his gun control activism is what I’d like to see brought into a new administration.
Whitmer has declined to be considered
She said she doesn't want it.
AZ isn't purple -- it leans red. See the 538 website.
We can't afford to put Kelly's Senate seat at risk. Otherwise he'd be the best pick for her running mate.
If you don't already know about Beshear, I think you might like him.
1. Most of his positions are solid Dem, but he opposes an assault-weapons ban (that's good in the eyes of the voters that Dems want -- and his preference will be immaterial if we can get a Dem-majority Congress, which could pass a bill banning them).
2. He's a deacon in his church (VERY good for the chunk of voters who can't bring themselves to vote for djt but who view Dems as godless libs).
3. He's only 47, making the Dem ticket young-ish and invigorated/invigorating.
It's come out recently that Nate Silver is owned now by Peter Thiel. I wouldn't believe anything he says anymore.
So I’m liking the looks of Mark Kelly and that choice may turn AZ Bluish purple at least. Really, Harris has a lot of excellent choices.
Yeah, but--we need him to stay where he is to keep the Senate....
Governor of Arizona is a Democrat and would name a Democrat to fill the seat.
Yes we do otherwise we might get the nut ball Kari Lake in the Senate which believe us you don't want that she's tRump in a dress
And, although I think Pete B. is the best spokesperson and debater in the entire Dem. party, I think a woman/gay man ticket is a bridge too far.
Is it really a bridge too far? A ticket of two top notch experienced democrats no matter what their colors vs Project 2025?
Pete impresses almost everyone. You can’t not see Pete. He’s that good.
He is, yes. But among other things, we're trying to win over independents and (sigh) undecideds. I know--how can anyone BE undecided, when faced with Trump? But I'm assuming those centrists/wafflers wouldn't approve of a gay man on the ticket. It may be a hard enough sell to get them to accept a woman of color.
It's a bridge too far. There is still quite a few in this country that do not approve of gay people and it's not just the Evangelicals. There are still a few people around from my parent's generation (WWII) and I'm a Boomer. You need the Boomers gone and I think you will see a much more progressive country. Most people vote with their emotions, they don't alwayus take the time to research the candidates they're voting for. How many MAGA have any clue as to what the GOP is really running on? Hillary was whip smart, totally qualified to be President. I think a huge factor in the reason she lost was that people did not like her from the Clinton years. If it was just talent, she would have blown Trump away.
He can be Secretary of State.
Yes, it absolutely *is* a bridge too far in the US of 2024, which is sad and infuriating. This country is socially conservative / backward compared to our peers (30+ other developed democracies).
This is why we still lack so much that they've had in place for years or decades: universal health care, a less-unfair tax code, educational standards and achievement, abortion policy, voting rights, gun safety, equal rights + protections for everyone who isn't a straight white man, sufficient housing, social housing, anti-price-gouging rules for landlords, a livable minimum wage, employers' obligations and workers' rights, paid time off, paid parental leave, action on the climate crisis (barring Biden's excellent but recent contribution), etc. etc. etc.
Some men are so fragile
Fragile (white) men are responsible for nearly all our problems in America. Serial killings, domestic violence, MAGA, toxic masculinity, corporate greed, oppression of women, ad infinitum
Anybody who won't vote Pete because he is gay will already not vote for Kamala because she is a Black woman married to a Jew. We are not going to win over any of the bigots, we just have to outnumber them. Certainly we should not give them a pre-emptive veto or we shouldn't be nominating Kamala in the first place.
Better yet, put him on, and then have him bow out in September.
OLDER THAN tRUMP !
Roy Cooper of NC fits the bill.
I think Andy Beshear is better, in part bc he's younger; he's active in his church; and he opposed an assault-weapons ban (which will draw some voters who would never vote for a Dem otherwise).
The goal of putting a Dem governor of a red state isn't to make that state favor Harris over djt, which will never happen in a solidly red stat like KY (or even in a pink state such as NC) -- it's to draw enough on-the-fence voters around the country such that at least one swing state or pink state (preferably more) favors Harris over djt.
That would take out a Dem governor who would almost certainly be replaced by a Republican (his Lt. Gov. would have the job until 2027 but then probably lose). Cooper is a different case because the NC governor's race is already happening now, and he is not running (term limited out) so he is free to take a different post.
No " RIZZ ".
fortune favors the bold.
Yes indeedy-do.
Maybe it isn’t as true as people imagine.
By the way you were hysterical a couple of times in this post.
Agree, Arne.
Yeah still a racist, misogynist country we have here.
True. But you play the hand you're dealt. You don't run a candidate that you know can't win just to say you're a progressive party. Compared to the political climate when I grew up (50's & 60's), we've come a long way. Of course, we have much further to go. Racism and misogyny are tough issues to tackle.
But it is starting to change. I live in a liberal state. We are accustomed to seeing people of all colors in every job.
I suspect Harris will not play well with Hispanic and even black men. But women will save us again. And perhaps youth.
If ONLY women voted , she would STILL win.
Can't be a POC either, unfortunately.
Sadly I agree.
The thing about Mark Kelly is that he is an identical twin so if he gets ill (God forbid), his brother can sit in for him. :) Andy Beshear is governor of KY and he is youngish which would appeal to Gen Z’ers. We have to take them into account also.
Agree. GOD, that would FUCKING ROCK! No offense to the men in this fine group.
💯💯💯
I hate thinking your right personally I'd vote for a 2 women ticket in a heart beat 💓 ♥️ but it's country over party first, then maybe we can fix get rid of, the good ol' boy network problem this country still has.
For now maybe. But you’ll never hit what you don’t aim at. Never over never in.
Right now we need to beat Trump. I don't care if we run a chihuahua as VP if it beats Trump. We can worry about the diversity issues after the election. I think Pete is terrific.
Diversity is only a problem for people who don’t like diversity. Most of those people are Trump voters.
71 million people voted for Trump. You can't dismiss his voters as a small number. I'm sure there are Trump voters who have no issue with someone being gay, just like there are Dems who have an issue with someone being gay. I feel that this isn't an election to do a lab experiment to see if nationally a gay person on the ticket could win. It's too important. Little by little, you're seeing gay candidates win. I just don't think it's the time to have Pete run in a national election. He's 42. There's more than enough time to put him out there nationally and have him run on a national ticket. Love to see him run against Vance!
Same. (I'm your age, Deborah.) I read a tweet that said, "I'm a lifelong Republican and I would vote for Joe Biden if he were in a coma." Now he doesn't have to!
That's the hard Truth.
Fragile or not, a good portion of the swing votes are Bannon-line voters, many of 'em old guys who are fed up with loony stories about Hannibal Lecter and real felony convictions.
If this were just for fun I'd like to see George Takei get the VP nomination.
Oh my . 😉
Probably an unfortunate reality.
She has thrown her support behind Harris and stated she’s not interested in the VP position.
She says no way, it’s not the right time.
That’s who I wanted to but it’s a no go. Just no manchin or Clinton & I’ll be ok with Harris
The Clintons are done in politics and Manchin is a joke.
If the rumors are true -- that Manchin was putting out feelers abut participating in an open convention (after Biden stepped down but before he anointed Harris) -- then Manchin's family needs to take away his car and boat keys.
Few Dems would vote for him, given his obstructionist bullshttt in the Senate, and few "anyone but djt" GOPs would vote for him bc he was a Dem for so long. Manchin is utterly delusional and has an enormous ego despite having done almost nothing worthwhile in his long life. He embodies the caricature of politicians as self-interested, greedy, power-hungry, and basically useless.
😂🤣 Trump’s ear is fully intact & healed from a bullet graze! Sure he was hit.🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
I'm going to miss the Maxi-pad, though. It was trending...
😄😂 personally, I’d classify is as a mini pad, but let’s not fuss! The people in the audience wearing the rat’s pillowcase, maxi pad, mini pad..whatever…made me laugh so hard, I cried. Seriously looked like aliens had landed for dear leader. There's another comical YouTube of a mega church preacher praying for trump’s ear! (Seriously). He forgets to pray for the dead & injured so a woman whispers in the preacher’s ear that he forgot to mention them! These people are psychotic to the nth degree!
I read that Whitney will be involved in the Harris campaign, but not as a Veep.
*Whitmer
She will stump hard for Harris in Michigan, and she has a lot of sway
The MAGAs will be on life support with a woman of color running. Two women at the same time - Nada.
We need her here. And she shows no interest in moving on from her current job. In a future cycle she might be a candidate for Prez but not now.
For: a Democrat and no, Joe Manchin doesn’t count
Against: a Republican
Can you believe the unmitigated gall of Manchin thinking that he would just sidle back into the Democratic Party and try to mount a challenge to VP Harris? Marianne Williamson can “do a Jeff” and fuck all the way off her visualized stage as well. We’ve got this y’all! Now, let’s go! No more fiddley-fartin’ around.
I just saw where he’s thinking about challenging Kamala for the job? I say go pound sand Joe, you have fucked up enough shit already. Get on your boat and get the fuck out of here.
And the corporate media whores already lining up to help him along…
Manchin can head out to sea & fish for sharks.
...with a big heavy battery in his boat
An electric boat?
preferably with sharks hanging out close by — just afraid they won’t find Orange Jenius all that appetizing lol
Too much greasepaint and lard.
Not unless they wanna eat half digested junk food
Another tRump croonie playing the see no evil ...not-see games . Their going to try everything because Kamelas a prosecutor of sex crimes and they're all in it deep . Crow, Thomas, Trump , and all the dominate powers players are going to be exposed and are running scared now ......👏👏👏👌👍
How FREAKING ironic is it that VP Harris specialized in prosecuting SEX CRIMES?? Karma In The House!
I think I will start calling her Karma Harris.
Fiddley-fartin...can I borrow this?
Sure 🤣. It’s a good old mountain saying. Help yourself and pass it on.
It's ancient. My pawpaw used it.
I like " trumps cornbread ain't done in the middle "
I’m a born & raised Texas girl & I’ve heard that “fiddle fartin around” all my life.
Manchin is an a-hole of MAGA proportions. What is wrong with people like him? He is just a perpetual jerk.
He's a whore for the coal industry, being a dirty-coal baron himself.
👍👍
Manchin is fucking delusional.
He should be stuffed down a coal mine, which could then be sealed, Big Bad John wise. "They never reopened that worthless pit/they just put a marble slab in front of it/on the top of the slab, these lines ran/at the bottom of this mine is a man who should have fucked off to Fuckistan."
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Lisa59: Nailed it. And his pharmaceutical grifting daughter can beg dad to steer clear because a keen journalist will dig deeper and they'll be the Menendez family staring down some corruption time.
but wouldn't Adam Kinzinger be interesting.
No, I don’t think so. Appreciate his contributions to our democracy but he’s still GOP.
It's how we got Merrick fucking Garland. Eff bipartisanship.
Kinzinger supports the disastrous economic policies that have destroyed the middle class over the past 43 years, have brought massive misery to about 140million Americans, and have therefore radicalized so many, leading to the awful tea party, the far-worse MAGA, and the truly disastrous P2025.
There is zero room for him in a govt that's trying to reverse this 43-year disaster. (I encourage you to read Robert Reich's 11-14-20 column in The Guardian, with some shocking stats from RAND about the GOP's wealth heist.)
I know that Kinzinger has paid a high price for doing the right thing and I feel for him, but he doesn't belong on this ticket or in this admin. And frankly, it's kind of disturbing that we're lauding him and the equally disastrous Cheney and Romney for doing what is basically the care minimum: supporting the rule of law and the Constitution / upholding their oath.
I totally agree with you!! Someone suggested Liz Cheney as the VP pick & I was like “Not only no, but FUCK NO” She is a hard-line Republican, hard-line forced birther, & she has called all Democrats baby killers & said we believe in killing babies after they are born!! Why in the world would any Dem ever even think that?? 🤮
Sen. Mark Kelly would make a great VP and deliver Arizona. Plus, the Governor of Arizona is a Democrat, and would name a Democrat to take his seat. Win win.
Good point.
but only until the special election to choose his replacement....
*Not* a win-win, because AZ is a light-red state and that Senate seat would probably go GOP in the 2026 special election that would be required, or the 2028 election that would be required bc that's when Kelly's term expires.
The goal of putting a Dem sen. from, or Dem governor of, a red state isn't to make that state favor Harris over djt, which will never happen in a solidly red state (KY) and probably won't happen in a light-red state (AZ) or pink state (NC -- pls see the 538 website for a listing of states by degree of color). The goal is to draw enough on-the-fence voters around the country such that at least one swing state or pink state (preferably more) favors Harris over djt.
Kelly could actively campaign for Beshear (who I think is the best pick at this point^), persuading the Arizonans who voted for him to vote for the ticket and thus deliver AZ for Harris.
^Beshear's pluses:
-- Most of his positions are favorable to Dems, but he opposes a ban on assault weapons, which will appeal to centrist or center-right voters who are iffy about Harris (his position will be immaterial if Congress were to pass an ass-weapons ban);
-- he's a deacon in his church (very appealing to centrist or center-right voters who view Dems as godless libs);
-- he's clearly good at consensus building bc he's been elected in red-red-red KY; and
-- he's only 47.
Mark Kelly. White male married to a shooting survivor. Former astronaut who can be replaced in the senate by a democratic governor. Should help swing Arizona all the way blue.
only replaced by Gov until the special election to choose replacement
Kelly's Senate term is up in 2026. When would a special election be if he's replaced by the Dem governor? AZ is iffy. Do we want to take the chance that a GOP would occupy his seat for 2 years if they win a special election? 1/20/25 - 1/20/27? You have to weigh that against how much benefit would he be to the ticket versus the possible loss of a Senate seat?
His term is up in 2028 but a special election to finish the last two years of his term would have to be held in 2026.
I’d pick Pete or Gov Whitmer but due to some fragile cishet white male voters it should probably be Mark Kelly, not that I’d be upset with that choice either
It's just not white, heterosexual men that might possibly vote against Pete because he's gay. If you use that logic, then no woman would be a Republican.
Reluctantly agree.
Mark Kelly. Swing state, former astronaut.
1. Can't take a chance on his Senate seat being won by a GOP. Yes, Hobbs would appoint a Dem replacement, but that person would have to win a special election in 2026 and win a regular election in 2028. AZ is still a light-red state -- too risky. (Pls see 538 website for list of states by degree of blue/red.)
2. There are other ways to deliver a state to Harris + ___ . For ex., Kelly -- a well-regarded sitting sen. -- could campaign vigorously for the Harris-Beshear ticket, persuading centrist / center-right Arizonans who voted for him to vote for that ticket, thus delivering AZ to Harris.
Beshear has no experience in federal politics, so he wouldn't be helpful to her as an advisor. Kari Lake would run for that Senate seat, so I am sure they could find a Democrat that could beat her.
Josh Shapiro, Andy Brasher, Gavin Newsome? And when it's all said and done, John Fetterman for a cabinet position. I love Fetterman!
Can't be from the same state, Newsom & Harris are Californians.
Oh yeah...good point. 👍
like anyone cares about that. bush and cheney were not only from the same state, they literally were from the same neighborhood. Kamala would just have to say she lives in DC now.
IT'S IN THE RULES ! So PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY CARE ABOUT THAT.
It isn't, though. https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state
They can be from the same state, but that state's electoral votes cannot go to both of them. President Harris and Vice President Vance would be an invitation to MAGA assassins.
lolololololol
YOU ARE BLOCKED, ( Because I don't like your laugh )
Bush always talked about his house in Maine.
try again. Cheney relocated his home to Wyoming because of this
sure he did...
She should LIE ? GFY
You're not serious are you?
Kristy, this is not true. There is nothing in the Constitution regarding this. It is a long held myth. However, it can get complicated by a close vote due to Electoral College. But I really do NOT believe this will be close. We’ll blow them out of the water!
I think it's in Democratic nomination rules, not the constitution. But thanks, I'll do more research 😊
You don't want two politicians from the same area of the country. The entire US is just not Cali or the west coast mentality. I've lived in upstate NY, Midwest and Nevada. Each state was almost like it's own country with food and mentality. You need to have a ticket to appeal to the majority of the country. The west and east coast mentality is not like the Midwest.
Deborah, I mainly don’t want the usual line of DNC thinking from yesteryear where they thought a liberal candidate would “balanced” with a centrist type. That won’t work for this. I’m fine with picking from two different states but they need to be strong anti-fascists. No centrist types. That’s what got us here.
There are a pretty good pool of possibilities but I hope we find out soon. This time we have a battle of Democracy Vs Fascism. I don’t actually think most people care where the candidate is from, as long as they will make bold moves to forever remove the orange FELON-deadly seditionist-rapist from our political world.
There absolutely is something in the Constitution about this. No state's electoral votes can go to two people from that state. Without California's electoral votes a Democratic win is impossible.
I doubt Gavin wants to be #2. He seems to be heading for President. He's young enough that 8 years of Harris would still give him time.
Not Newsome. We need someone from a swing state.
If Harris changes her residence and voter registration to Washington, then it would work.
Gov. Cooper from NC. That would help flip NC.
The goal of putting a Dem sen. from, or Dem governor of, a red state isn't to make that state favor Harris over djt, which will never happen in a solidly red state (KY) and probably won't happen in a light-red state (AZ) or pink state (NC). (Pls see the 538 website for a listing of states by degree of color.) The goal is to draw enough on-the-fence voters around the country such that at least one swing state or pink state (preferably more) favors Harris over djt.
I prefer Beshear over Cooper (someone better might emerge, but these are his pluses):
-- Most of his positions are favorable to Dems, but he opposes a ban on assault weapons, which will appeal to centrist or center-right voters who are iffy about Harris (those of us who want a ban shd remember that his position will be immaterial if Congress were to pass an ass-weapons ban);
-- he's a deacon in his church (very appealing to centrist or center-right voters who view Dems as godless libs);
-- he's clearly good at consensus-building bc he's been elected in red-red-red KY; and
-- he's only 47.
NC sucks. No way
No, not Gov Newsome of CA. I live in CA & vote for him. Not enough experience. Not enough depth yet for VP.
He'll run for president some day.
Josh Shapiro would be branded an East Coast elite -- and he's Jewish, in a nation that's still fairly racist/antisemitic, so he won't draw the centrist/center-right voters we need. Ditto Newsom, who's seen as too liberal. And Mark Kelly, ideal in most ways, needs to hang on to his Senate seat -- AZ is still light-red, and his replacement (tho a Dem, appointed by the gov.) would have to win a 2026 special election and a 2028 general election. Too risky
Andy Beshear is the best choice at this point (someone better might emerge, but these are his pluses:
-- Most of his positions are favorable to Dems, but he opposes a ban on assault weapons, which will appeal to centrist or center-right voters who are iffy about Harris (hisplus for those who want a ban, as I do: his position will be immaterial if Congress were to pass an ass-weapons ban);
-- he's a deacon in his church (very appealing to centrist or center-right voters who view Dems as godless libs);
-- he's clearly good at consensus-building bc he's been elected in red-red-red KY; and
-- he's only 47.
The goal of putting a Dem sen. from, or Dem governor of, a red state isn't to make that state favor Harris over djt, which will never happen in a solidly red state (KY) and probably won't happen in a light-red state (AZ) or pink state (NC). (Pls see the 538 website for a listing of states by degree of color.) The goal is to draw enough on-the-fence voters around the country such that at least one swing state or pink state (preferably more) favors Harris over djt.
Andy Beshear
When you talk him up:
-- most of his positions are favorable to Dems, but he opposes a ban on assault weapons, which will appeal to centrist or center-right voters who are iffy about Harris (those of us who want a ban shd remember that his position will be immaterial if Congress were to pass an ass-weapons ban);
-- he's a deacon in his church (very appealing to centrist or center-right voters who view Dems as godless libs);
-- he's clearly good at consensus-building bc he's been elected in red-red-red KY; and
-- he's only 47.
The great news...a lot of really good solid choices!!
#1 Mayor Pete ; My fantasy: Liz Cheney
Here's my fantasy: Dems win a trifecta in November on the national level and blue wave the shit out of the state races; Vonshitzinpantz goes to jail for the rest of his life; the Magats crawl back into the holes from which they came; Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger rebuild the Republican party ala Teddy Roosevelt and Ike; all insurrectionists (I'm talking about you, Trumplican politicians) get booted out of Congress and the SCOTUS and go directly to jail right after public trials for treason. "And I think to myself, what a wonderful world...".
And while we're at it, get rid of the filibuster, expand the Supreme Court, pass MAJOR immigration reform (pick up all the parents w kids who've lived here for whatever amount of time, naturalize those folx, et voila! permanent D majority that actually reflects the majority of Americans.
Your fantasy is pretty close to mine in the concept of what fantasy is. Mine is to wake up the same size I was in high school and be young again. Sadly, I don't think either one of our fantasies will play out.
No, but girls can dream...
Agree. LOVE your scenario.
What happened with Teddy Roosevelt is that he got booted out of the party, and formed a "Progressive" party, and all the Progressives and the Roosevelts went over to the Democratic side (the first half of the Big Switch, completed by the Dixiecrats switching over to the Republican side).
Liz Cheney IS a republican with republican ideas…hell no! She didn’t endorse Biden. She did the right thing on J6 committee but that doesn’t mean she’s become a Democrat at all!
She also voted with trump 90+% of the time. No fucking republicans. Just once I’d like to see Dems remember they’re the party of Roosevelt. And not Teddy. 😎
Liz Cheney could be a uniter. Non-maga republicans must certainly respect her as do most democrats for putting country over everything to stand up to Trump. That is rare for ANY politician. As VP she wouldn't have the power to do much damage, policy -wise. Dems need as strong a team as possible to beat the devil.
Liz Cheney would kill the win. NO REPUBLICANS on OUR ticket. She went along with most of trump’s agenda! She is very much a right winger. Just because she did the right thing for the investigative committee doesn’t mean she would unite our party. I appreciate that she believes in our laws, that she sought evidence. A VP can often caste a deciding vote and would take over in the case of death or incapacity of the Pres. No Way.
Neither one would help, unfortunately
Here's my dream ticket: Kamala Harris and Mark Kelly. They are a perfect equation. Mark Kelly is almost a reincarnation of President Biden - the battle wounds of watching your wife almost die a violent death from gun violence and standing by her side every step of the way is pure Biden-esq dignity, compassion, loyalty, and yes, love. This is a real man. He is empathy. He is not afraid of having a very smart wife. He knows how to maneuver around powerful women. He has his own accolades. Astronaut? In America, astronaut is the person who touches heaven. The bravest of the brave. The Right Stuff. Seriously, Mark is our guy.
I’d like Eric Swalwell, Katie Porter, Pete Buttigieg would shred Vance in a debate!
OMG. A gay guy shredding a Nazi? That would be awesome..
Swalwell and Porter are from California.
Well, I know it won't be a Republican (they can never again be trusted) and Shapiro dedicated himself to PA and shouldn't leave them after only 2 years and we need him in PA (although I love him!) Mark Kelly doesn't have enough experience, Beshear? Maybe. Doug Jones has been mentioned, I like Chris Murphy but maybe another day. It's going to be really hard because we need a lot of these governors to stay where they are and defend their blue hold. UGH! It's going to be interesting. Whoever it is they will have to be white and male for sure lol. Can't have two strong women!
I hear Roy Cooper's name being tossed around - he may not be bad, he's terming out as Gov as NC, which could easily be a swing state, and he's an older white male to calm those other older white males. My dream pick would be Pete B, but I think that might be a bit much for some of the less liberal swing voters.
I like many of them, but Shapiro from PA would probably cement that state for dems - and trump needs that state, so fuck him. Kelly would be good too but we can’t lose a dem senator, even tho AZ’s process is for the governor to appoint someone from the person’s own party.
"Shouldn’t the Republican Party be reimbursed for fraud".... I wouldn't have believed that if you hadn't posted it for all to see. JFC!!!! They are melting ALL the way down. For a minute, I thought Stephen Miller was gonna have a heart attack. 😂😂😂 This is great to see them all freaking out. And my decision to cancel the fucking New York Times continues to be the right one! Great start to Monday, Jeff... we all love ya, man! 💙✌️
I was disappointed that Nosferatu Goebbels didn't explode on live TV. Then I could die in peace.😆😆
😂😂😂 No doubt! I forgot how high pitched and whiney his voice gets! I despise that SOB.
He was on the verge of a meltdown, I love to see that miserable piece of crap get scared of an intelligent woman, and a black one at that.
If the Republican Party is reimbursed for fraud it can turn around a pay this country for putting a Russian operative in the White House and re-electing multiple Russian operatives to congress, some of whom have enabled compromised judges to serve too.
Since presidents have immunity from acts, Biden should start stacking the Supreme Court right now, right? At least get the ball rolling for Karma.
Hear hear! From the party that hasn’t won an election cycle since it took away women’s bodily autonomy, enjoy the seeds you planted in 20 & 22. 🌸💐🌺
Oh Lord honey yaaassssss
Love that one!
That was almost the best part, but I think "they filled in circles" really did it for me. That's what I look forward to most on election days - filling in the circles.
😂🤣😂 He's got 34 felonies for Fraud and now the big weenie is crying that he's a victim of fraud! 🤑🤑🤑 You cannot make this shit up!
Every citizen should be reimbursed to the fraud that Trump perpetrated on us as president.
Be interesting to hear the racial attacks. Vance's wife is 100% Indian and Hindu and Kamala is 50% Indian. A slippery slope when both your candidates/families aren't lily white and Christian.
LOL! 😂😂😂
My Aching Goddamn Ass. PERFECT!!!!! 😂
Can you imagine how Joe felt having to fight COVID again and make this decision when he felt like shit? How will you feel when you are 81? Lester Holt will still not say anything about all the lies that Trump spews every time he opens his mouth.
Do you know that JD Vance is not his real name? That he didn't grow up with hillbillies, he was in a upper middle class family in Ohio and went to college. So why did the fake President choose a fake person as his running mate? Because JD Vance is just as FAKE as Trump is.
Vance is a puppet, a sop for MAGA.
He's a puppet of Peter Thiel, a ridiculously wealthy and stupid gay "libertarian". Thiel and Vance (if that is his name today) are using MAGA for their own agenda. Which has nothing to do with any MAGA who is not also a multi-millionaire.
His name wasn’t JD Vance when he lived in Middletown. It’s JD Bowman. My aunt grew up in Middletown; the residents who remember JD think he’s a lying little shit.
Indeed a lying little shit.
I will be 81 in 2032. I am not going to make any conjecture on how I will feel then. It depends on lots of things. I have doubts about it if the Toddler King gets back in. Fake is exactly what a puppet is.
He's a "better looking" Bannon.
"Burn it all down" Bannon was busy.
Imagine how outraged & explosively mad Sloppy Steve is today. Jailed for contempt, no podcasting privileges. No way to gather his anti-American traitors to plot new strategy. Cellbound. Helpless. Angry. Impotent.
🇺🇸⚖️🧑⚖️🗽😂😂😂😂😂
That's such a nice thought. Thank you, Teri.
And he didn't have on 3 shirts and I think he's taken a bath at least once this year.
He’s probably had a good de-lousing.
Yeah, they probably hosed him down when he first got there.
I’m 84, feel pretty good except for arthritis. I know Joe is capable of continuing his brilliant agenda, but I also will support Kamala because he endorsed her, and also because she will be a great president.
He's more dangerous than Trump. He's much younger, light years smarter and bankrolled by Thiel. What's not to like?
Darrell- all true and GOOD points!
You should watch the YT Video by Trae Crowder on JDVance. Excellent!!
I did, too!
Dark Brandoned the shit out of it is right!!!Hooray!!!!!! And Joe Manchin can piss off!!! Great piece Jeff! Harris for the win!!!!
I had a whole section about Joe Manchin "considing a run" that I had to delete when it was reported this morning that he's absolutely not doing that
I had a big laugh yesterday when Claire McCaskill said, "Joe, read the room! You'd have to be a Democrat!" He's such a horse's ass.
Love me some Claire. Sorry she's not still in the Senate.
😂😂😂😂😂
Like KH would even consider that A hole.
Sorry you didn't print it anyway. Would have been stellar.
No one should question Pres. Joe’s understanding of politics-his timing was perfect in stealing the show from the 🍊/🤮 convention bump. They can’t cry loud enough! 😂🤣😂
So-go ahead and spend all of your time whining about how Joe ‘should resign if he can’t run again’, he’s going to Presidentin’ the F’ out of the rest of this term.
I we are all going to point and laugh right out loud at them. Seriously, I need a laugh track to carry with me. There’s a guy parked in the lot at my gym; he’s got the great big black truck with LDFF riding in the club cab, flags about Brandon. I want to stand at his truck, play a laugh track and point. I could draw a crowd. And I’ll betcha these guys are all crying about all that money they spent on those stupid flags. Bunch of numpties.
I'd love to make a red, white & blue sign "KAMALA 2024". Large to cover my entire back window. I fear my back window would be shot out, or destroyed. Blue dot in deep red area.
I want a new one that says "Prosecutor vs Felon". I'm sure they will be available shortly.
I agree - I think this was planned by the master. I appreciate everything Joe Biden has done as president, bur leaving Republicans sputtering is the best.
Did not see the magnitude & 3 level chess politics behind Joe Biden leaving the race.
Nothing sweeter than Magat tears.
Sore losers Republitards— she would be an “incumbent” if he resigned now… even harder to beat an incumbent!
Yeah. Remember that he has immunity for all he does for the next few months. The first thing should be bringing charges against Thomas. That's an easy one. Alito, too. Those scumbags are so corrupt. He can Executive Order the shit out of things.
Fuck yes!
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 Yr post was absolutely 💯!! I felt saddened that President Biden decided to hand over the reins, but I’m relieved, as well. The media and his fair weather friends were sapping every last ounce of his energy; it was terrible! But, if yr gong to go, Dark Brandon certainly showed them how to do it! So I’m all the way behind VP Harris; that’s all we need to be thinking about and working on! This can’t be an IF she wins; this has to be a WHEN Kamala wins!! Amen!🙏🏾🇺🇸🙏🏾
Amen.
AMEN!
How about the fucking media presses the old psychotic babbling baboon aka Donald Trump who’s not fit to be president to drop out?
Losing Joe like this, the only positive for me is that we will now refer to OLD, Demented Donnie. I was Biden, all the way and I can't express my disappointment enough. He is a great president.
Yes! Now that Donnie’s going to be the oldest Presidential candidate ever, Big Media better start talking about his mental state every fucking day.
I love how this move fucks over the MSM and forces them to give some coverage, and took the oxygen out of the room from their dumb-ass convention and the fake supposed assassination attempt.
Just finished listening to HCR, and she talked about how the Republicans walk down a dark alley, and Biden came along and slammed the door shut behind them. They are stuck with JD Vance and Befuddlepants after the convention. The R’s are now in complete panic mode….this gives me great joy.
I’m thinking all of this has been orchestrated between the administration and the Democratic leadership for at least a month now. It’s brilliant. And I wonder if either tRUMP or Steven Miller will stroke out long before November. Good lord I think Miller was foaming at the mouth and nearly incoherent.
Isn’t it fun to watch Miller melt down? 🤣😂
Love the start of the column…and the rest of it. I prepared to live and die with Biden. The fact he immediately endorsed Harris is good enough for me that Biden feels she is up for and best suited to the job. Biden is a rock star: great President, politician extraordinaire and a great man. And the politicians and the people who vote Republican who don’t see this can, as you say, fuck all the way off.
Meanwhile, the Biden supporters who never waivered are pivoting to support Harris 100%. But the "Joe must go" crowd are whining that we damaged our chances by supporting Biden as long as we did. They can also fuck all the way off!
Agree Chris. I was supporting Biden staying but IMMEDIATELY switched support to Harris after the announcement.
My first thought upon waking up this morning as that Joe really fucked the Sunday morning infotainment peeps. LtfOL!
"Sending out a press release on Sunday afternoon, after the morning talk shows, totally screwed the media. No video clips, no “breaking news,” no chance for pundits to comment on how he sounded, looked, walked, etc. No chance to schedule guests to pick him apart as he spoke. He totally starved them of clicks and eyeballs, in repayment for them starving his candidacy of positive coverage purely for the sake of clicks and eyeballs".
The MSM can now kiss Joe’s ass. Joe owes them NOTHING!
Also we have to get control of the house & senate…. need full cooperation for Harris…. then we set our sites on the SCOTUS… make changes.
Scotus indictments must start NOW. Presidential immunity, how sweet it is.
“Biden never had covid. He’s a threat to Democracy”. Sure fuckwit, that makes sense. I’ve never had it and I support democracy. Last time I checked Trump had covid and he wants to be a dictator. 🙄
He’s like a little 5 yo- whining that you took away his favorite toy. Waaa Waaa waaaaaaaaaaa. Loser of the year.
On 9/18/2024 LDFF will face sentencing in New York. We will then see how much of a loser LDFF really is.
Hahahahahahaha! Eat shit Trump! Eat shit neo-confederate dipshits! And fuck that prick Manchin too!
Go Kamala, go!
You nailed it Jeff. So now, we must endure the misogyny and racism of the GOP—strike that, MAGA, not GOP. Sebastian Gorka the exemplar of patriotism and manhood remarked ‘Her [Harris] only qualification is a vagina and skin color.” Great campaign add. Pretty sure that wraps up the women’s vote. Basically, Joe pretty much outmaneuvered the MAGA crowd. As for the Orange guy, wow, just wow. As usual clueless and classless. VP Harris, you’ll rock it.
MAGA and the GOP are the same thing. There hasn’t been a difference between them in at least 5 years.
My comment more out of deference to those R’s who refused to be MAGA, but on balance you are correct.
Sadly, Kinzinger and Cheney may be the only ones left.