There are still more indictments necessary for sitting members of Congress -GOP Senators who voted to oppose the Election College results -actively participating in the scheme, GOP House members who have continued to attempt to defund, obstruct, and undermine the investigations, and of course Ginni Thomas and others. Justice must ring through the halls of Congress- and all who participated in the conspiracy, insurrection, or as accessories after the fact must be expelled and barred from ever holding public office again.
because there's nothing in the Constitution that forbids it. 1920, Eugene Debs ran for president while sitting in prison and got 3% of the popular vote
A good reason to go out and vote against Trump, so that we do not look like the third world countries that vote corrupt criminals into power. The latest example being Israel. I certainly do not want that debacle.
Actually, thinking out loud Jeff -when you say "malignant narcissist" we know you mean Trump, but shouldn't there be something to disambiguate between Trump and Musk?
Fortunately, the distinction is Musk doesn't yet have his hands on governmental powers. And he cannot run for president. Though he could for other office. But he's made himself a pariah so it's hard to see exactly enough votes for him.
That is why I like the additional sociopath but then I learned recently that Musk removed the Ukraine's army from his StarLink satellite internet service...so back to they are both 2 useless inhuman fucks.
I do believe, as a retired therapist, that trump, at a minimum, has a raging personality disorder. He presents like the active alcoholics I have met: angry, petulant, blaming, manipulative, and running from the truth. It's hard for sober people to listen to him talk, without cringing. I can't stand the sound of his voice. It is interesting that his brother died from the effects of alcoholism. There are parallels. Trump has "judgment" and "insight," although not into his own behavior and whom it may harm. His insight and judgment have to do with maximizing the pain inflicted on and the damage he can cause to his "enemies." Like Nixon, he probably has a rich internal life, counting up his list of combatants. He is charismatic to the faithful. But he cares nothing for the human beings he solicits. They are just usable in the moment, to his own ends. And that qualifies as a trait of sociopathy.
Legal pundits say that an Insurrection conviction would have done that but for whatever reason that wasn’t charged, I completely trust Jack Smith’s judgment.
Considering those that were charged and convicted such as that flaccid one-eye dick, Rhodes from the Proud Boys & his cohorts it might be too hard to get 100% conviction as these easy to see cases vs the president.
Hey, I’d like to see him face Insurrection charges but Jack Smith did what he thought best based on what he had and I don’t have the knowledge to question that. These charges are related to Jan 6 so no, trump didn’t get a pass. Someday maybe we will know why the charges weren’t filed and maybe someday they actually will be.
Who’s gonna enforce that, Garland? Congress? Besides, rules don’t matter to the fat fuck, he’s broken every rule: About paying taxes, about running a charity, about telling the truth, about being faithful; the rules are for losets.
Yes yes yes!! I want to see those bastards who gave tours of the premises on Jan 5th charged, and convicted. and all the others you reference. I hope this is not forgotten in the wake of the massive impact trump's indictment provides..
My money on the sixth conspirator is either Roger Stone or Steve Bannon. Personally, I'd prefer Ginni Thomas because she is such a POS and, FWIW, I think Roger will be a lot happier in the big house than Bannon but ...
I agree Miller is more likely and he is a thoroughly despicable human being on so many levels so yeah. But let me entertain my fantasy about Ginni Thomas for another day or two...
My guess (and my hope) is that the others mentioned here are going to be named in another indictment or superseding one. It sounds like Smith could be keeping this indictment clean specifically so there can be a speedy trial for Trump without the co-conspirators mucking it up with their objections.
It has been commented by ex federal prosecutors that the reason why the six are conspirators and not being indicted as well is so that they cannot delay his trial. Once he corroded douchebag (love that!) is convicted, they believe the six will be indicted and tried as well. Hoping that goes for the rest of the arrogant conspirators like Brooks, MTG, Gosar, Gaetz, Bannon, Stone, Boebert, Bannon, etc.
I cheered when I heard of the fourth count in his indictment - for the first time in the past 3 years I finally heard something that spoke of me - and what I had/have lost because of his actions. I want - no, I demand that my right to be a participant in the election of our leader(s) be counted and seriously defended. How dare him/them!
That what first pissed me off the most about all this shit! That all these fuckers wanted to nullify my vote (and 81 million others) and stampede all over my right to have a say! Ex friends of mine telling me I didn’t count or I/We cheated became ex-friends very fast! I walked out of the middle of our luncheon and was done with them forever more. The idiots.
Also, did he/they think 81 million people who voted for Biden were going to take it laying down? Fuck no, we would have been out in the streets and have stayed there. I suppose the thugs would have declared martial law and started shooting us. Can you imagine? Our entire country, its economy, everything would have gone down the fucking drain. All for a moronic, sick, demented clown named trump.
His still banking on his warped constitutional right to continue his run for president of the country he betrayed, hoping a win will allow him to just make it all go away. WTAF?!?!
More good news! That mother fucker is going down. It's comforting to know just how fucked up he made his miserable life. Can you imagine living inside his brain? OMG
It is his support from lying liars like Hannity on FOX last night defending him with how can he get a fair trial in those horrible places like NYC or DC, cause no one voted for him there!
Excuse me, WTF indeed. The real evil behind him have an agenda for their authoritarianism that FOX viewer for the most part won't put together.
I was reading the 5/11/23 article, "why are Trump supporters still in?" Not exact tittle from The Authoritarians.org
The best in one shot explanation I have read. It really explains it even if you already heard some explanations THIS one really explained people I know or didn't know well enough.I
I used to wonder, WTF on "college educated women" being part of his "base" in say post election 2017. I think the website explains it. Also, I don't think the same # of women in this group are all in but don't really know. Certainly the Courts have jammed that up.
The sociology & psychology of this group of people is really helpful to understand. Not for them but for our sanity.
I’m happy that the “corroded old douchebag”, as you so eloquently stated, is finally being charged with his crimes, but I am depressed that so many still support this steaming turd of a human being. I hope that he continues to be the Republican frontrunner and that he, along with the rest of the Republican party, goes down in flames in 2024.
Oh Amen. Considering reading that article I mentioned above if you feel inclined. It is sad that they abdicate freely with this douchbag. I DO love that. But it seems they drank that Janitor in a Drum right out of their mothers douchbag. THAT is how we got there in many respects.
Trump’s trials, especially this one, will truly become “judgement day” for America. Our democracy will either survive, or not. The concepts of truth, integrity, honesty, and decency will either prevail or it won’t. If Trump wins, then the United States as we know it today to will cease to exist. And whatever the U.S. evolves into after a potential Trump victory, will be something that I’ll be sure to miss, - because I’ll move out of this country.
Since I can't move out of country, I keep thinking maybe I wouldn't even want to continue living, because if that happens, the whole world will go down in global warming, environmental destruction, and tyranny. It's my greatest fear.
They’re not welcoming to retirees. We don’t contribute to the economy and they don’t want us using resources. Unless you’re in a position to make a BIG investment in the country (as Ireland and New Zealand demand), you’re not going there.
Mexico and Ecuador have big expat populations and both countries are welcoming to Americans.
I hate the heat, too. My breathing isn’t an issue but I have a spine that fucks with me after walking a couple of blocks. Clearly, our needs are different but we should share our findings. What might not work for me may be good for you.
Lesley, I can’t walk across the apartment without my spine, and legs, screwing with me. After affects of a long law enforcement and firefighting career. Falling off of and through to many roofs, and floors, I guess.
Portugal and Mexico are the two that I think I’ve narrowed down my search to. I don’t speak Spanish, but it’s my understanding that’s not a firm requirement. Plus there’s places in both countries that have good cool climate year round.
I’ve been looking at Portugal for sure. Easier in many ways and lots of folks from England are also leaving. Switzerland was my #1 but it is very difficult to emigrate there. At least for me as I do not have a lot of resources and it’s required there. Mexico is actually my #3. It has several good areas and I speak Spanish. At the very least I will leave the U S for 2-3 months at a time. I’m heartbroken to even consider. But I don’t a lot of time left on the planet and the last 10 or so years have worn out this oldster feminist veteran. I want a vacay from my own country. ☹️
Trumpism is seeping over the border into Canada. We have a right wing rage-farmer who wants to be prime minister who is quite willing to brandish his love of trump around, and who has already run afoul of Elections Canada (an independent body that oversees elections in Canada) by being involved in a scheme to call voters in a district to tell them their polling place had changed and it had not. And now it seems like he might have cheated his way into his party’s leadership.
He could win the next election in 2025. There are enough stupid people who seem to like this. His talking points are right out of trumps playbook and he’s great at getting lies out in public where they do damage before they’re disproven.
Seems there may be a bug conspiracy afoot. None of us can believe how outright nuts these magats are deep in their minds and its spreading into Canada and elsewhere. Perhaps the mosquitoes have come up with a mind altering saliva they inject into some humans to cause mental functions to cease. We are, after all, ruining the planet. The eradication of the human pestilence on planet earth brought about by what we deem pests. What a crazy sci-if story right?
I had to share a little humor because it’s an exciting day to see 45 walk before a judge and have to keep his mutated mouth shut.
I do not understand why this message is so difficult to enact. I’ve voted for several presidents I didn’t “like” but I always voted because of democracy. The president and I do need to like each other, he/she’s job is to take care of and guide the country
BTW - the end of this indictment details some pretty damning evidence, too. Late on Jan. 6th he called several people in Congress to encourage them to do what they could to delay the certification. And he asked them to contact other members, too. Remember that part of his scheme was to delay the certification and therefore throw it to the Supremes- specifically Alito who would be the next justice to hear a case - and that would drag everything out until after the inauguration - and he would remain in office.
I LOVE the way the indictment takes care of the blinded First Amendment whine still being propagated by Fox. Yes, he had the right to lie all he wanted. He could even pursue that lie into 60+ lawsuits. But that exhausted his rights. All the other guff is action, not speech.
If he is convicted and God Forbid wins the election, can he pardon himself? And if so, if a president can pardon himself, what's to stop a president from going around shooting people at random? It doesn't make sense
No, a president cannot pardon himself. This is why Richard Nixon had to resign so Gerald Ford could pardon him.
What Frumpy’s plan is this. He’s going to get elected (hopefully NOT), then he’ll resign (if he’s convicted on any of these crimes), then the Vice President will take her Oath of Office, and her first order of business will be to immediately pardon Frumpy.
There’s only one small hitch to that giddy-up plan. A Presidential Pardon does NOT work for state crimes, imprisonments for violation of state charges. So, Frumpy will be looking at being sent to Georgia to Durand time in state prison. Then, hopefully on to Wisconsin, Arizona, and Michigan.
Thing is, he could still win the election. That he can even still run for president is beyond understanding. And that his cult of worshipers and most of the GOP are continuing to worship and protect him. Where will this all lead? What it going to happen to our democracy? We don't know. And at this time of climate crisis, rights being ripped away from us, and an illegitimate, criminal supreme court . . .. fucking scary times.
I’m have your answer. It’s MY educated guess ftom listening to what this Orange headed clown 🤡 has been saying, and the actions of his ‘followers in the House, Senate, and elected officials in the states.
A. Voting, as we know it is no more. We will have voted in our last election.
B. Democracy is gone.
C. The Constitution is abolished.
D. All of our rights are destroyed, gone, forever.
E. We will be under a Dictatorship.
F. All state governments, and Federal Government agencies will be required to report, and answer to, the ‘president’ (Dictator).
IF Donald J. Trump is re-elected in 2024, you can bet money the above I’ve laid out will happen, without fail.
This isn't the first Roedo historical speaking. I think it is easy to give into fear but history has a lot to say. And, yep we as citizens have alot to do.
Jeff, the way you express everything, your delightful language is such a relief to my tired eyes. We are going to see the ‘corroded old douche bag’ going to court A LOT in the coming years and that is as it should be. Hopefully, lots will be revealed about the GQP lemmings who are currently in office and everything they did to corrupt and destroy our democracy as well. I wonder if Jack Smith will be satisfied with only indicting the orange pustule or if he will follow up with going after dumbass republican cheaters far and wide? I hope so. We have to fumigate and rid our house of the vile cockroaches that call themselves the Republican Party.
My understanding is that "unindicted co-conspirators" is code for this is your last chance to flip and cooperate with the prosecution, Mr. Giuliani, Ms. Powell, etc. If they don't want to play nice with Jack Smith, they'll be indicted.
Yes, there are clearly those obvious unindicted co-conspirators who have a chance to flip. But there are SO MANY more lying cheats in the GQP that should be held to account. It goes back so far, there are too many to keep track of…even morons like Devin Nunes. I realize nobody will do anything about the majority of these losers, but hopefully those that conspired around Jan. 6 will all be brought into court now or later.
And then there's this, which I posted today on Facebook: "ABSURDITY -- "Last month, a Nebraska teen was sentenced to 90 days in prison for using safe and FDA-approved medication abortion pills to terminate her unwanted pregnancy when she was 17 years old. Her mother, who helped her acquire and take the pills, could be incarcerated for up to five years."
REPUBLICANS THINK THEY CAN ARREST & JAIL A MOM & HER DAUGHTER FOR GETTING & USING AN ABORTION PILL, BUT NOT TRUMP FOR HIS MULTITUDE OF CRIMES???"
Thank you Jeff!
There are still more indictments necessary for sitting members of Congress -GOP Senators who voted to oppose the Election College results -actively participating in the scheme, GOP House members who have continued to attempt to defund, obstruct, and undermine the investigations, and of course Ginni Thomas and others. Justice must ring through the halls of Congress- and all who participated in the conspiracy, insurrection, or as accessories after the fact must be expelled and barred from ever holding public office again.
Why isn’t The Defendant barred from even running for office?!?!
because there's nothing in the Constitution that forbids it. 1920, Eugene Debs ran for president while sitting in prison and got 3% of the popular vote
A good reason to go out and vote against Trump, so that we do not look like the third world countries that vote corrupt criminals into power. The latest example being Israel. I certainly do not want that debacle.
Wonder how many votes the malignant narcissist will get while he is shitting in prison.
Actually, thinking out loud Jeff -when you say "malignant narcissist" we know you mean Trump, but shouldn't there be something to disambiguate between Trump and Musk?
Fortunately, the distinction is Musk doesn't yet have his hands on governmental powers. And he cannot run for president. Though he could for other office. But he's made himself a pariah so it's hard to see exactly enough votes for him.
His messing with Ukraine internet is too much power.
That is why I like the additional sociopath but then I learned recently that Musk removed the Ukraine's army from his StarLink satellite internet service...so back to they are both 2 useless inhuman fucks.
I do believe, as a retired therapist, that trump, at a minimum, has a raging personality disorder. He presents like the active alcoholics I have met: angry, petulant, blaming, manipulative, and running from the truth. It's hard for sober people to listen to him talk, without cringing. I can't stand the sound of his voice. It is interesting that his brother died from the effects of alcoholism. There are parallels. Trump has "judgment" and "insight," although not into his own behavior and whom it may harm. His insight and judgment have to do with maximizing the pain inflicted on and the damage he can cause to his "enemies." Like Nixon, he probably has a rich internal life, counting up his list of combatants. He is charismatic to the faithful. But he cares nothing for the human beings he solicits. They are just usable in the moment, to his own ends. And that qualifies as a trait of sociopathy.
NOT REALLY , LOL.
All of the MAGA base and more.
I almost want to see a repetition of 1920 in 2024. Almost! Would revel in his humiliation
fun fact: one of Eugene Debs's campaign promises was to pardon himself
Go figure!
Legal pundits say that an Insurrection conviction would have done that but for whatever reason that wasn’t charged, I completely trust Jack Smith’s judgment.
Considering those that were charged and convicted such as that flaccid one-eye dick, Rhodes from the Proud Boys & his cohorts it might be too hard to get 100% conviction as these easy to see cases vs the president.
I do see a RICO charge in his future, maybe?
45 needs to be charged with an insurrection conviction.
Then I'll join team Jack 100%.
He may not want to further the narrative that he’s interfering in the election.
so we just give him a free pass for the whole Jan 6th incident? UM ok.
Hey, I’d like to see him face Insurrection charges but Jack Smith did what he thought best based on what he had and I don’t have the knowledge to question that. These charges are related to Jan 6 so no, trump didn’t get a pass. Someday maybe we will know why the charges weren’t filed and maybe someday they actually will be.
WHEN HE IS CONVICTED THAT APPLIES.
After all, like I said yesterday, you can't be elected 3 times, so if he wants to be elected this time, he HAS TO ADMIT HE LOST LAST TIME.
Who’s gonna enforce that, Garland? Congress? Besides, rules don’t matter to the fat fuck, he’s broken every rule: About paying taxes, about running a charity, about telling the truth, about being faithful; the rules are for losets.
Hah!! Good point!
Yes yes yes!! I want to see those bastards who gave tours of the premises on Jan 5th charged, and convicted. and all the others you reference. I hope this is not forgotten in the wake of the massive impact trump's indictment provides..
My money on the sixth conspirator is either Roger Stone or Steve Bannon. Personally, I'd prefer Ginni Thomas because she is such a POS and, FWIW, I think Roger will be a lot happier in the big house than Bannon but ...
this guy thinks it's Jason Miller: https://www.alternet.org/beamed-down-from-the-mothership/
I agree Miller is more likely and he is a thoroughly despicable human being on so many levels so yeah. But let me entertain my fantasy about Ginni Thomas for another day or two...
Talk about an early Christmas present if it is...
Really.
Epshteyn?
That was my thought
Isn't this person from Pennsylvania? Is Miller from there because if he is, that's who it is.
My guess (and my hope) is that the others mentioned here are going to be named in another indictment or superseding one. It sounds like Smith could be keeping this indictment clean specifically so there can be a speedy trial for Trump without the co-conspirators mucking it up with their objections.
I'd be happy with Jared too.
My vote goes for Stephen Miller.
Yeah, I agree. Stephen looks good for it. I was thinking Jared, Miller, I’d bet money on.
Some people think #6 is Bernard Kerik.
Oh, now that’s interesting…
I'm also hearing Epshtyn, Ginni Thomas and Mike Roman. Roman apparently has ties to Koch.
I highly doubt Ginni. She was not present anywhere.
It has been commented by ex federal prosecutors that the reason why the six are conspirators and not being indicted as well is so that they cannot delay his trial. Once he corroded douchebag (love that!) is convicted, they believe the six will be indicted and tried as well. Hoping that goes for the rest of the arrogant conspirators like Brooks, MTG, Gosar, Gaetz, Bannon, Stone, Boebert, Bannon, etc.
Cruz, Hawley....
I cheered when I heard of the fourth count in his indictment - for the first time in the past 3 years I finally heard something that spoke of me - and what I had/have lost because of his actions. I want - no, I demand that my right to be a participant in the election of our leader(s) be counted and seriously defended. How dare him/them!
That what first pissed me off the most about all this shit! That all these fuckers wanted to nullify my vote (and 81 million others) and stampede all over my right to have a say! Ex friends of mine telling me I didn’t count or I/We cheated became ex-friends very fast! I walked out of the middle of our luncheon and was done with them forever more. The idiots.
Also, did he/they think 81 million people who voted for Biden were going to take it laying down? Fuck no, we would have been out in the streets and have stayed there. I suppose the thugs would have declared martial law and started shooting us. Can you imagine? Our entire country, its economy, everything would have gone down the fucking drain. All for a moronic, sick, demented clown named trump.
His still banking on his warped constitutional right to continue his run for president of the country he betrayed, hoping a win will allow him to just make it all go away. WTAF?!?!
This is why we need to put a lot hope into Fani Willis and her investigation. Trump won't be able to get out of state charges.
🙏🏻
Sadly, I think Kemp could pardon him but don’t think he will. He doesn’t seem to like trump and it could be political suicide.
not sure, but i read Georgia's governor cannot pardon. though their state government could change that.
Thank you.. that’s good to know!
Kemp won’t touch this with a 10 foot pole. If he dies, he’s finished as Governor.
and Manhattan D.A., Bragg.
Speaking of New York, Letitia James’ civil suit could become criminal too!
More good news! That mother fucker is going down. It's comforting to know just how fucked up he made his miserable life. Can you imagine living inside his brain? OMG
It is his support from lying liars like Hannity on FOX last night defending him with how can he get a fair trial in those horrible places like NYC or DC, cause no one voted for him there!
Excuse me, WTF indeed. The real evil behind him have an agenda for their authoritarianism that FOX viewer for the most part won't put together.
can't put together. their heads would explode if they did.
I was reading the 5/11/23 article, "why are Trump supporters still in?" Not exact tittle from The Authoritarians.org
The best in one shot explanation I have read. It really explains it even if you already heard some explanations THIS one really explained people I know or didn't know well enough.I
I used to wonder, WTF on "college educated women" being part of his "base" in say post election 2017. I think the website explains it. Also, I don't think the same # of women in this group are all in but don't really know. Certainly the Courts have jammed that up.
The sociology & psychology of this group of people is really helpful to understand. Not for them but for our sanity.
That link doesn’t link to anything ☹️
If that isn't 'correct ' look it up...
and become a dictator. There are plans for this in the making.
While also spreading the lie, with the help of Fox, that this is to keep him from running. Another thing he knows to be a lie.
Not to mention the $$$$ BILLIONS $$$$ he’s milking, scamming, from his ‘sheep’ 🐑!
I’m happy that the “corroded old douchebag”, as you so eloquently stated, is finally being charged with his crimes, but I am depressed that so many still support this steaming turd of a human being. I hope that he continues to be the Republican frontrunner and that he, along with the rest of the Republican party, goes down in flames in 2024.
Oh Amen. Considering reading that article I mentioned above if you feel inclined. It is sad that they abdicate freely with this douchbag. I DO love that. But it seems they drank that Janitor in a Drum right out of their mothers douchbag. THAT is how we got there in many respects.
Trump’s trials, especially this one, will truly become “judgement day” for America. Our democracy will either survive, or not. The concepts of truth, integrity, honesty, and decency will either prevail or it won’t. If Trump wins, then the United States as we know it today to will cease to exist. And whatever the U.S. evolves into after a potential Trump victory, will be something that I’ll be sure to miss, - because I’ll move out of this country.
I must regrettably agree with you DF, but I’ll try. Lorraine Parish seems to love Mexico...so who knows?
YES. I love Mexico. It's a well-kept secret. We like Americans thinking it's dangerous here, keeps the rift-raft out.
Para mi es mejor en muchos sentidos.
Muy mucho
We are a free society, yes?
Since I can't move out of country, I keep thinking maybe I wouldn't even want to continue living, because if that happens, the whole world will go down in global warming, environmental destruction, and tyranny. It's my greatest fear.
You’ll need to get in line.
Portugal, Switzerland, or England are looking really inviting right now.
They’re not welcoming to retirees. We don’t contribute to the economy and they don’t want us using resources. Unless you’re in a position to make a BIG investment in the country (as Ireland and New Zealand demand), you’re not going there.
Mexico and Ecuador have big expat populations and both countries are welcoming to Americans.
Thanks. What about countries, or areas, that stay relatively cool year round. I can’t take the heat. Plus I’m on oxygen and breathing machines.
I hate the heat, too. My breathing isn’t an issue but I have a spine that fucks with me after walking a couple of blocks. Clearly, our needs are different but we should share our findings. What might not work for me may be good for you.
Lesley, I can’t walk across the apartment without my spine, and legs, screwing with me. After affects of a long law enforcement and firefighting career. Falling off of and through to many roofs, and floors, I guess.
Portugal and Mexico are the two that I think I’ve narrowed down my search to. I don’t speak Spanish, but it’s my understanding that’s not a firm requirement. Plus there’s places in both countries that have good cool climate year round.
I’ve been looking at Portugal for sure. Easier in many ways and lots of folks from England are also leaving. Switzerland was my #1 but it is very difficult to emigrate there. At least for me as I do not have a lot of resources and it’s required there. Mexico is actually my #3. It has several good areas and I speak Spanish. At the very least I will leave the U S for 2-3 months at a time. I’m heartbroken to even consider. But I don’t a lot of time left on the planet and the last 10 or so years have worn out this oldster feminist veteran. I want a vacay from my own country. ☹️
Trumpism is seeping over the border into Canada. We have a right wing rage-farmer who wants to be prime minister who is quite willing to brandish his love of trump around, and who has already run afoul of Elections Canada (an independent body that oversees elections in Canada) by being involved in a scheme to call voters in a district to tell them their polling place had changed and it had not. And now it seems like he might have cheated his way into his party’s leadership.
He could win the next election in 2025. There are enough stupid people who seem to like this. His talking points are right out of trumps playbook and he’s great at getting lies out in public where they do damage before they’re disproven.
God help us!
Seems there may be a bug conspiracy afoot. None of us can believe how outright nuts these magats are deep in their minds and its spreading into Canada and elsewhere. Perhaps the mosquitoes have come up with a mind altering saliva they inject into some humans to cause mental functions to cease. We are, after all, ruining the planet. The eradication of the human pestilence on planet earth brought about by what we deem pests. What a crazy sci-if story right?
I had to share a little humor because it’s an exciting day to see 45 walk before a judge and have to keep his mutated mouth shut.
This is an apocolypse, and armageddon.
I do not understand why this message is so difficult to enact. I’ve voted for several presidents I didn’t “like” but I always voted because of democracy. The president and I do need to like each other, he/she’s job is to take care of and guide the country
TRUE.
BTW - the end of this indictment details some pretty damning evidence, too. Late on Jan. 6th he called several people in Congress to encourage them to do what they could to delay the certification. And he asked them to contact other members, too. Remember that part of his scheme was to delay the certification and therefore throw it to the Supremes- specifically Alito who would be the next justice to hear a case - and that would drag everything out until after the inauguration - and he would remain in office.
I LOVE the way the indictment takes care of the blinded First Amendment whine still being propagated by Fox. Yes, he had the right to lie all he wanted. He could even pursue that lie into 60+ lawsuits. But that exhausted his rights. All the other guff is action, not speech.
If he is convicted and God Forbid wins the election, can he pardon himself? And if so, if a president can pardon himself, what's to stop a president from going around shooting people at random? It doesn't make sense
No. Jennifer Rubin answered that very question this morning on her Q and A.
No, a president cannot pardon himself. This is why Richard Nixon had to resign so Gerald Ford could pardon him.
What Frumpy’s plan is this. He’s going to get elected (hopefully NOT), then he’ll resign (if he’s convicted on any of these crimes), then the Vice President will take her Oath of Office, and her first order of business will be to immediately pardon Frumpy.
There’s only one small hitch to that giddy-up plan. A Presidential Pardon does NOT work for state crimes, imprisonments for violation of state charges. So, Frumpy will be looking at being sent to Georgia to Durand time in state prison. Then, hopefully on to Wisconsin, Arizona, and Michigan.
Finally.
It’s a relief. Not much in life is worth getting angry about. The monster & his supporters are the exception. It’s also sad
Perfectly said! Thank you for the short version of reading today!
Thing is, he could still win the election. That he can even still run for president is beyond understanding. And that his cult of worshipers and most of the GOP are continuing to worship and protect him. Where will this all lead? What it going to happen to our democracy? We don't know. And at this time of climate crisis, rights being ripped away from us, and an illegitimate, criminal supreme court . . .. fucking scary times.
It could happen. All it takes is a third party candidate.
Ralph Nader gave us George Bush, after all.
I’m have your answer. It’s MY educated guess ftom listening to what this Orange headed clown 🤡 has been saying, and the actions of his ‘followers in the House, Senate, and elected officials in the states.
A. Voting, as we know it is no more. We will have voted in our last election.
B. Democracy is gone.
C. The Constitution is abolished.
D. All of our rights are destroyed, gone, forever.
E. We will be under a Dictatorship.
F. All state governments, and Federal Government agencies will be required to report, and answer to, the ‘president’ (Dictator).
IF Donald J. Trump is re-elected in 2024, you can bet money the above I’ve laid out will happen, without fail.
This isn't the first Roedo historical speaking. I think it is easy to give into fear but history has a lot to say. And, yep we as citizens have alot to do.
Jeff, the way you express everything, your delightful language is such a relief to my tired eyes. We are going to see the ‘corroded old douche bag’ going to court A LOT in the coming years and that is as it should be. Hopefully, lots will be revealed about the GQP lemmings who are currently in office and everything they did to corrupt and destroy our democracy as well. I wonder if Jack Smith will be satisfied with only indicting the orange pustule or if he will follow up with going after dumbass republican cheaters far and wide? I hope so. We have to fumigate and rid our house of the vile cockroaches that call themselves the Republican Party.
My understanding is that "unindicted co-conspirators" is code for this is your last chance to flip and cooperate with the prosecution, Mr. Giuliani, Ms. Powell, etc. If they don't want to play nice with Jack Smith, they'll be indicted.
Yes, there are clearly those obvious unindicted co-conspirators who have a chance to flip. But there are SO MANY more lying cheats in the GQP that should be held to account. It goes back so far, there are too many to keep track of…even morons like Devin Nunes. I realize nobody will do anything about the majority of these losers, but hopefully those that conspired around Jan. 6 will all be brought into court now or later.
A G Garland and Jack Smith both said the investigation is ongoing. We won’t know what that means until it’s all over.
Oh, the complete gloriousness of it! I haven't been this jubilant in a very long time....
But you still need to brace for what else comes from the MAGA side.
Bring it on! Nothing can dim this euphoria!
For all the crimes that he incited,
finally he is indicted,
and I'm delighted and excited!
And then there's this, which I posted today on Facebook: "ABSURDITY -- "Last month, a Nebraska teen was sentenced to 90 days in prison for using safe and FDA-approved medication abortion pills to terminate her unwanted pregnancy when she was 17 years old. Her mother, who helped her acquire and take the pills, could be incarcerated for up to five years."
REPUBLICANS THINK THEY CAN ARREST & JAIL A MOM & HER DAUGHTER FOR GETTING & USING AN ABORTION PILL, BUT NOT TRUMP FOR HIS MULTITUDE OF CRIMES???"