If Biden and the Dems don’t act with complete clarity right now they will miss the thin time frame within which they can do anything to righteously protect all the people who deserve to be protected. Dithering about and trying to be the ethics police in the face of evil is both a horrific waste of time but also unethical. Hasn’t anyone ever studied Kohlberg’s Heinz dilemma on the study of Moral Development?
Biden has missed the mark on shutting down arms sales to Israel, and now both the UN and Amnesty International have declared the Gaza rampage a genocide. Helluva legacy, Brandon.
Sarah! I was just looking at the kohlberg thing last night and wondering where things went wrong...I said it before and will again, he needs to pardon till the cows come home and start yesterday. The fucking house is on fire, no more debating, let the maga lawyers twist in the wind for the next 2 yrs with SCOTUS trying to iron it out. Chaos from the dems is a much better defense for the country than just letting the clock run out and wait for the punishment to begin. Pardons are king per SCOTUS. Give them to every person who entered the US illegally for only that act, no other immunity. How fast can they issue them is the only question that matters.
Yes! What a great idea - blanket pardon to everyone who entered by crossing the border illegally. That will mess with those m*therfuckers heads while saving people’s lives. One of the best things about Kohlberg’s work is that it is a thought provoking and philosophical discussion about what is moral. He also tied people’s ethical interpretations to their cognitive stage of development. Apparently we have a lot of concrete thinkers making bad decisions in this country (not certain they’ve even reached that level of cognitive skill.)
When I look at the basic framework and try to discern where we are, I suspect Biden is actually somewhere at post-conventional - his stance that he wouldn't pardon his son because it goes against the principle regardless of consequences (for oneself) is definitely personal ethics. Felon factory is definitely pre-conventional in terms of motivation (self interest) where everything is graded and talked about as 'good for us' regardless of consequences for others, but consistently gets people to vote against their self-interest also, which seems to be the conundrum nobody is able to address. The country as a whole has backslid into debating right and wrong under conventional reasoning for decades (who owns the law and order label) and attempts to elevate the reasoning have been met by Pubes using the 'principles' to rationalize their positions under the guise of 'social contract' (culture wars) - but then you see the assassination attempts on trump and the killing of the UHC CEO - and the mob essentially cheering like this is the French revolution. We know what happens when you institute Nazism and post-conventional wisdom (Heinz dilemma) says 'steal the drug because human life is more important than prop rights' - it's possible this is where we are debating. The wealthy are saying property rights are the measure of power AND legitimacy. Dems are at social contract saying all people have intrinsic rights, Pubes are at self-interest and pretending to be at law and order/social contract to Dems chagrin so they keep getting caught in these stupid whataboutism conundrums per the outrage factory. It's mind-numhing to watch for people who are conscious observers. There's an obfuscation going on about where they are - if you believe you have the right position (ie Hitler) do you have to bamboozle the people about it to gain control (lying about project 25)? I think this is the real question, whether the con will hold well enough for them to swindle the whole country...
I agree. It hurts to write that, but when you can save people, you do it. Waving your principles about helps no one when the enemy is not principled or faithful to the same values. Trump is known for targeting people and ruining their lives. NEVER FORGET and learn from experience.
No, they will just rip him a new one just they have all week. They should get nothing but the opportunity to find out just how far Trump and Patel want to go.
Have you learned what the owner of the LA Times has decreed? Unfortunately, pardons, though the right idea, won’t affect the way a few feckless oligarchs have decided to behave.
They have bent the knee. Harry Litman on his Substack today said he had resigned from his position because of it as he did from Wa-Po. I’m sure he would appreciate a look-see if you feel like if.
My home state is a redneck abomination. Missouri sucks. Why does history have to repeat itself? Humans never learn and we all have to suffer. Pardon away Joe. Meanwhile I’m tired of living hour by hour wondering WTF is going to happen next. 😭
Like my wife said, I don't want to spend the next four years worrying and focusing on that asshole on a daily basis. There's a lot more things in life than that insane prick.
If we're lucky we'll only have to suffer for two years. By then the chaos, the corruption and the incompetence of these people will be apparent, and if the Dems are on the ball, the midterms will tell an interesting story.
Is this “fixing” elections addressed in Project 2025? Didn’t that gross baby-poo colored Convict promised we would never have to be botheted with having to vote again
Here's how to get back at Missouri. Send brown American citizens into town, pretending to be illegals. “No speeka ingles!” When they get arrested, sue the hell out of Missouri. When they go low, we get legal.
Your suggestion of “going legal“ presumes rule of law will be maintained in Missouri after Trump. Missouri authorities could lynch a whole bunch o’ people and burn the bodies before any legal protections might break out.
Who is willing to bet that MO is going to give "illegals" due process? Who is willing to bet that MO will care if this person or that may or may not be a citizen?
HP you clearly don't know much about the legal system. These folks would have lawyers lined up in advance who would bring their citizen papers to court and prove that there was a false arrest. There is a Hispanic civil rights organization called LULA C that might be interested in doing these kinds of things, or maybe a new organization could be set up.
The first lawsuit that Donald Trump was ever involved in was in Queens where an organization proved that he and his father were unwilling to rent to black people. They did this by sending black people to run an apartment, who were told that nothing was available, but then 5 minutes later white people come and are rented an apartment. Donald Trump and his father Fred Trump had to pay millions to settle a civil suit.
I know how fascism and fascist governments work. And that is what we are about to have. Do I think everything we have had for 250 years will be gone on 1/21, no I do not. But a year later? Yeah, I do. Maybe not for "normal" crimes, but with regard to the deportations I believe that there will be no due process, and yes, a substantial amount of murder along the way. And none of those murders will be solved because they are not meant to be. They also will not be widely known, because they are not meant to be.
Trumps first lawsuit means nothing. Hell, his last one means nothing too. This is gonna be different from anything any of us have ever seen, except in a documentary.
Well, we will see. So a complete transformation of the United States in a year. Not even Walmart can do that and they are much better organized than Trump.
Hitler became German Chancellor on Jan 30, 1933. The Enabling Act was passed in either March or early April, 1933.
As for a complete transformation, I would direct you to the following line in my comment above: "But a year later? Yeah, I do. Maybe not for "normal" crimes, but with regard to the deportations I believe that there will be no due process..."
I am sure that were I to rob a bank in say May of 2026, I would be caught because I am not really a crook, but more to the point, I would probably get due process. They guy who mows my lawn, probably no due process for him, citizen or not. That is what I think. That is what I learn from history.
That first lawsuit was a half century ago. The US legal system has decayed considerably since then. How much consequences has Trump had from any of his more recent cases, which involved far worse misconduct, up to treason and espionage?
I have zero faith that he will ever suffer the slightest consequence. Henry Kissinger lived a long long time, and died in his bed never having spent one day in prison.
For the next four years, the goal is to impede the Trump Administration in the same way that the Muslim ban was reversed and the wall never got built in the first administration.
If a Democrat is elected in 2028, it will be time to convict trump of as much as we possibly can.
I don't think that Trump can learn lessons. But we just may be able to deprive him of his freedom and luxuries.
that aint how a maga dictatorship works.... Dear leader wants to be the commander of law enforcement, courts and all things justice... he would kill those lawsuits with just a phone call.
These would be civil lawsuits filed in Missouri courts for false arrest or in federal courts for violation of civil rights. Trump cannot stop a civil lawsuit. He can only stop his Justice Department from participating in the suit.
I just think Trump will be able to do or stop anything he wants , civil or federal,
as already proven by his getting away with everything...
And that is a sickening thought.
If the judge and jury and appeals court judge are left leaning and luck is on their side with everything is lined up perfect, then yes there could possibly be some justice in civil suits.. I'd be impressed if they'd pull it off.
Clearly, you were not there for the original civil rights movement as I was. The city of Houston TX is currently paying off a number of big settlements for police misbehavior. Sorry to hear you're ready to give up before we even start fighting. During the original civil rights movement I know of at least two white people who posed as minorities so they could report how differently they were treated. If you're convinced it's all hopeless, Don't you have a better use for your Time then sharing comments with people who are actually going to make this a fight?
THAT IS THE TRUTH! Those who don't read history, and are too young to remember (which is virtually everyone in the United States), have no clue what is actually going on, or what the ultimate consequences (final solution) may be. It's horrifying to realize this.
Which literally shocks me beyond words. It's like it never happened... No wonder Jews continue to repeat: "Never again." Those words are generally used in regards to what happened to the 6,000,000 Jews who were slaughtered in the Holocaust. But they should be equally important to all thinking people re what happens in war. How many people realize that FIFTY-THREE MILLION PEOPLE DIED IN WW II, of which two-thirds were CIVILIAN?
That's what my dad (who helped liberate the camps) said. He went home, to the states, and had what was politely termed a "nervous breakdown" afterward, because he saw such horrible things. He couldn't speak about it for forty years. He would be a hundred if he were still alive.
My father, who I think was just 16 or 17 at the time, was with the US Army in France and Germany after D-Day. I wrote about him when the Supreme Court betrayed our WWII dads (and moms)...https://mindsitenews.org/2024/07/03/__trashed/
About 15 years ago I had a conversation with a survivor of the concentration camps. Her fiancé was murdered. She said she still had nightmares of those years.
My dad only saw the aftermath, but the piles of dead humans and mass burial sites, and the poor survivors who he described as “walking skeletons that we all turned our pockets out to try and feed.” absolutely broke him.
Almost every kid I knew in grade school had a father that served. And most came back and never talked about the War at all. I asked my dad what it was like and he just said "You don't want to know."
Imho, everyone who ever crossed the felon should be pardoned. DAs, prosecutors, judges, witnesses, and others responsible for holding him to account. Also, political figures who have spoken out against him. It would be a very long list, but worth it for the continuation of democracy in this country.
Packing a bag in case of emergency would be a good idea Susan! Putting this neo-feudalistic concept in your rear view mirror by leaving the country another!!
All sane women, know how important reproductive care is, and reproductive emergencies happen to republican women, too. There is only a very small group of fanatics that are crazy enough to jeopardize every woman's health by banning abortion care.
Having worked in reproductive healthcare clinics, though not in MO. I can tell you Catholic and republican women have procedures as, if not slightly more often.
I just wrote about this for a larger piece I hope to publish tomorrow.
While “news” organizations and pundits are “up in arms” about President Biden pardoning his surviving son, President Biden understands the vindictive nature of the coming storm. Trump has no interest in justice. His interests, which are manifest in his appointments thus far, are in pursuing retribution through absolute loyalists who will do what they are told. If Trump wants Hunter Biden convicted and imprisoned -he will be indicted by Pam Bondi, put in front of Aileen Cannon and be sentenced to as many years in prison that Trump should now be serving. Trump doesn’t like an investigative journalist “enemy of the state” at ProPublica, The Guardian, or Grist? Trump doesn’t like a political opponent, a whistleblower, or a witness? Well, the Supremely Corrupted Court of the U.S. has given him immunity for “official acts”. No witness, no crime.
The fact that frenzied “news” organizations are headlining the pardon is just another symptom of the legacy media disease. It is “sanewashing” because they are effectively creating a frame that the Justice department under Trump appointees Pam Bondi and Kash Patel will remain a fair system representing the interests of the people of the United States. This is a preposterous frame. They are Trump loyalists bought and paid for just as Aileen Cannon was. While I don’t like “whataboutism”, nevertheless here are five Trump pardons for context (notwithstanding that the GOP would never bring “gun charges” against anyone). Hunter was also indicted for a scheme to avoid $1.4 million in federal taxes, and he repaid the entire amount due.
By comparison, let’s quickly look at five of Trump’s pardons:
Joe Arpaio: The former sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, was convicted of criminal contempt for defying a court order to halt racial profiling practices. In August 2017, Trump pardoned Arpaio, a move that drew widespread criticism for endorsing discriminatory law enforcement tactics.
Michael Flynn: Trump's former National Security Advisor pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his communications with the Russian ambassador while undermining sanctions on Russia for annexing Ukraine’s Crimea. In November 2020, Trump granted Flynn a full pardon, raising concerns about undermining accountability for misleading federal investigators.
Roger Stone: A longtime political adviser to Trump, Stone was convicted on charges including obstruction of justice and witness tampering related to the Russia investigation. In July 2020, Trump commuted Stone's 40-month prison sentence, a decision that many viewed as an abuse of presidential power to protect an associate.
Paul Manafort: Trump's former campaign chairman was convicted of tax and bank fraud, as well as failing to disclose foreign lobbying activities. In December 2020, Trump pardoned Manafort, prompting criticism that the pardon was intended to shield a political ally from legal consequences.
Charles Kushner: The father of Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, was convicted of tax evasion, illegal campaign contributions, and witness tampering. Trump's December 2020 pardon of Kushner was controversial due to the severity of the crimes and the personal connection to the president.
Makes my blood turn cold reading this. SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND WHO WERE FUCKING COWARDS. WE SAW THIS SLOW MOVING TRAIN AND NO ONE DID ANYTHING. WE SCREAMED INTO THE COLD NIGHT AIR. NOTHING REPLIED.
I look forward to reading more. You are a gift, George, for excellent, accurate and concise recording of history and reporting. Thank you now and in advance!
Firewalls Against Trump was the mantra in California immediately after the 2016 election. All Blue State governors should adopt this mindset, as well as the Democrats in Congress. It would be better if they acted like a parliament (vote of no-confidence) and moved more aggressively and effectively against anti-democratic MAGA politics, rather than choosing to always delicately "smooth out the wrinkles" in our political system.
100% agree. It makes no sense to me for a lot of reasons, one of which is that he has already gotten off scot-free. They've started winding down the federal investigations and sentencing for his 34 felonies has been postponed indefinitely. Everyone knew he would make the investigations go away if he was re-elected, and that's what is happening already.
There are no ethical reasons to pardon him, unlike Hunter Biden, but there are no practical reasons either. I'm also so sick of Democrats universally disarming because there is no way in hell a Republican would pardon a Democrat and everyone in the world knows that. The double standards are fucking ridiculous.
Mobbed up career criminals are seldom found guilty, or do time in an oubliette!
Tax fraud is the most common charge that takes them down. Colour me unsurprised that Trump beat the system, where he will continue his corrupt and criminal activities that line his pockets insert!!
January 19 is too fucking late for pardons. That pardon factory needs to start moving at top speed. Just don’t hire a ditzy redhead named Lucy to work on it.
I would pardon all the independent press corps but screw the corporate media. After all that sane washing, they deserve to be left hung out to dry. Too harsh?
No - pardon individual reporters or columnists at WaPo (like Jennifer Rubin) or even NYT who truthfully reported but not the institutions that sanewashed Trump and tried to suck up to him even before he won.
Too harsh? Hell no. I said in another comment, the media that has been ripping Joe should get nothing except a chance to find out how far Trump and Kash Patel want to go.
President Biden should remain fearless. His legacy? There are no longer norms that must be followed to embellish a stellar presidency. In light of the wing-nuts, past practices are simply the past. We have many who have served to strengthen democracy, and they must have security and protection. Do it, Joe. Take the wind out of retribution.
The only thing about Biden's pardons that will break precedent with Trump's is that Biden won't be waiting for a 6- or 7-figure bribe before issuing the pardon.
Great piece today, enjoy the Nazi parallels, most don’t know much history anymore.. Sad. I apologize for not including Golf with MAGAS the discussion concerning Hunter Biden and his charges. Of course MAGAS at the table were very po’d about it. I broke down the main charge, that being Hunter checked a box on his weapons permit that he did not use drugs. 3 out of 8 at the table have firearms, all 3 smoke dope, so WTF is actually going on here? All at the table are 2nd Amendment folks and yet could not cite a case similar to Hunters. I suggested that maybe we should begin prosecuting gun folks who use drugs.. that went over like a fart in an elevator. Hunter would have never been prosecuted if his name was Jones or Smith, again silence. The stench of hypocrisy was very strong and they realized it.. Best to all.
Chet, many thanks for your comment. Next week I have decided to pose the question.. Since Donald had 5 years to research people for his new administration, please explain his current choices and why these choices that have no experience in those selected fields? Not to mention “concepts” of a new healthcare plan.
Thanks Chris, I’ve been preaching about having the first female president, with Joe stepping down and allowing her the opportunity to rain on the mewling wastrels parade since she replaced Joe as a candidate!!
Today the federal government has taken bold action to prevent an existential threat to the homeland. The FBI, in cooperation with DOJ, has executed a series of raids on people engaged in illegal cooperation with our foreign adversaries.
My administration has also undertaken a massive investigation into the results of the election - not just the results, but how the American people were systematically lied to in a way that benefitted our enemies, and billionaires.
What we know is that the Russian government, under the direction of Vladimir Putin, called in a series of bomb threats to election locations. We will undertake a hand recount in every state that was affected to ensure the integrity of the vote.
Moreover, the damaging effect of propaganda funded and directed by our adversaries, including Elon Musk, on the American people cannot be overstated. To that end, I have directed that X, which was purchased by Elon Musk and blatantly used to interfere with the election, be seized, along with the rest of his assets, including SpaceX and Tesla to prevent further damage to our citizens.
The federal government will not allow, much less subsidize, a man who would threaten our democracy.
The apps Truth Social and Telegram are banned from the United States, along with the dangerous website Rumble. FoxNews has been shut down.
Donald Trump and a number of his co-conspirators have been arrested for Treason against the United States. The evidence is public. You don’t have to search for it. As Maya Angelou said: “When they tell you who they are, believe them.”
I know these may seem like extreme steps, but I have to level with the American people and most importantly to defend you. That was my solemn oath when you elected me - and I’ll be damned if I’m the president that hands over our nation to our enemies.
"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of this land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned with a downright moron."--H.L. Mencken. Sure, the guy was a vile Anti-Semite . . . but he wasn't wrong. Aeschylus wrote that man must suffer to be wise. Well, we're all gonna have feckin' doctorates. To conclude today's Trump Era Triumvirate: "Hell is empty and all the devils are here."--William Shakespeare.
For the record, I’m ok with no pardons for the legacy media, even the “good ones” still on their payroll. If you’re sitting at a table of thousands of Nazis….
I started talking about pre-emptive pardons on November 6th. Trump is the poster boy for sore losers. He has never gotten over the loss that he knows was legitimate. Hey, investigative reporters! How about you start investigating his shadow foreign policy over the last 4 years, including the Afghanistan withdrawal.......
Have you noticed other than the brilliant, patriot, Jane Mayer (who exposed the cockroaches known as the Koch brothers) there are few investigative reporters in corporate media? They seem to wait for ProPublica, or independent media to do all the work, then act like they broke the story.
The minute he named Kash every fucking person in the crosshairs should’ve received a preemptive pardon. Goddam it hurts to write that.
If Biden and the Dems don’t act with complete clarity right now they will miss the thin time frame within which they can do anything to righteously protect all the people who deserve to be protected. Dithering about and trying to be the ethics police in the face of evil is both a horrific waste of time but also unethical. Hasn’t anyone ever studied Kohlberg’s Heinz dilemma on the study of Moral Development?
Biden has become the ditherer in chief, like Garland. I doubt he'll do the needful here. Hope I'm wrong.
Biden has missed the mark on shutting down arms sales to Israel, and now both the UN and Amnesty International have declared the Gaza rampage a genocide. Helluva legacy, Brandon.
Yeah there is that.
We don't really know what the WH plans. They usually don't telegraph pardons.
If they have, it's been conveniently forgotten.
Poignant Sarah!
Sarah! I was just looking at the kohlberg thing last night and wondering where things went wrong...I said it before and will again, he needs to pardon till the cows come home and start yesterday. The fucking house is on fire, no more debating, let the maga lawyers twist in the wind for the next 2 yrs with SCOTUS trying to iron it out. Chaos from the dems is a much better defense for the country than just letting the clock run out and wait for the punishment to begin. Pardons are king per SCOTUS. Give them to every person who entered the US illegally for only that act, no other immunity. How fast can they issue them is the only question that matters.
Yes! What a great idea - blanket pardon to everyone who entered by crossing the border illegally. That will mess with those m*therfuckers heads while saving people’s lives. One of the best things about Kohlberg’s work is that it is a thought provoking and philosophical discussion about what is moral. He also tied people’s ethical interpretations to their cognitive stage of development. Apparently we have a lot of concrete thinkers making bad decisions in this country (not certain they’ve even reached that level of cognitive skill.)
When I look at the basic framework and try to discern where we are, I suspect Biden is actually somewhere at post-conventional - his stance that he wouldn't pardon his son because it goes against the principle regardless of consequences (for oneself) is definitely personal ethics. Felon factory is definitely pre-conventional in terms of motivation (self interest) where everything is graded and talked about as 'good for us' regardless of consequences for others, but consistently gets people to vote against their self-interest also, which seems to be the conundrum nobody is able to address. The country as a whole has backslid into debating right and wrong under conventional reasoning for decades (who owns the law and order label) and attempts to elevate the reasoning have been met by Pubes using the 'principles' to rationalize their positions under the guise of 'social contract' (culture wars) - but then you see the assassination attempts on trump and the killing of the UHC CEO - and the mob essentially cheering like this is the French revolution. We know what happens when you institute Nazism and post-conventional wisdom (Heinz dilemma) says 'steal the drug because human life is more important than prop rights' - it's possible this is where we are debating. The wealthy are saying property rights are the measure of power AND legitimacy. Dems are at social contract saying all people have intrinsic rights, Pubes are at self-interest and pretending to be at law and order/social contract to Dems chagrin so they keep getting caught in these stupid whataboutism conundrums per the outrage factory. It's mind-numhing to watch for people who are conscious observers. There's an obfuscation going on about where they are - if you believe you have the right position (ie Hitler) do you have to bamboozle the people about it to gain control (lying about project 25)? I think this is the real question, whether the con will hold well enough for them to swindle the whole country...
I agree. It hurts to write that, but when you can save people, you do it. Waving your principles about helps no one when the enemy is not principled or faithful to the same values. Trump is known for targeting people and ruining their lives. NEVER FORGET and learn from experience.
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How to get Biden off his butt and so something before its too late. My frustration is growing.
No, they will just rip him a new one just they have all week. They should get nothing but the opportunity to find out just how far Trump and Patel want to go.
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Have you learned what the owner of the LA Times has decreed? Unfortunately, pardons, though the right idea, won’t affect the way a few feckless oligarchs have decided to behave.
They have bent the knee. Harry Litman on his Substack today said he had resigned from his position because of it as he did from Wa-Po. I’m sure he would appreciate a look-see if you feel like if.
My home state is a redneck abomination. Missouri sucks. Why does history have to repeat itself? Humans never learn and we all have to suffer. Pardon away Joe. Meanwhile I’m tired of living hour by hour wondering WTF is going to happen next. 😭
Like my wife said, I don't want to spend the next four years worrying and focusing on that asshole on a daily basis. There's a lot more things in life than that insane prick.
Totally agree. It’s madness - the humans who wanted this are dangerously dumb.
And they continue to get dumber.
If they get any lower we will have to water them twice a week.
Nice one. (If only...)
I K, R?
Say it again Susan, but louder!!
Like extinction event level dumb.
If we're lucky we'll only have to suffer for two years. By then the chaos, the corruption and the incompetence of these people will be apparent, and if the Dems are on the ball, the midterms will tell an interesting story.
If the people who run elections aren't all in camps by then.
Is this “fixing” elections addressed in Project 2025? Didn’t that gross baby-poo colored Convict promised we would never have to be botheted with having to vote again
We can only vote and hope.
Here's how to get back at Missouri. Send brown American citizens into town, pretending to be illegals. “No speeka ingles!” When they get arrested, sue the hell out of Missouri. When they go low, we get legal.
Your suggestion of “going legal“ presumes rule of law will be maintained in Missouri after Trump. Missouri authorities could lynch a whole bunch o’ people and burn the bodies before any legal protections might break out.
And the national media will be there to film it as they did during the old civil rights era of the 1960s.
The media of today does not have the same level of bravery, to say the least.
There is so much non MSM media out there. That's who I'm counting on.
George Orwell's book, 1984 called those events Hate Days- when people were killed in a public square while others cheered and scowled at them.
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Possibly, yet could end badly Kathleen!
Who is going to volunteer to be sent to Miusouri as “bait” ?
I can’t imagine anyone here with their hand raised Dave!!
Not too many brown people read Jeff. But there is LULAC the Hispanic civil rights organization
Yeah, Ken Paxton in TX is already harassing the shit out of LULAC grandmothers
Pay them to be disrupters, and possibly the recipients of mega$ lawsuit settlements?
Who is willing to bet that MO is going to give "illegals" due process? Who is willing to bet that MO will care if this person or that may or may not be a citizen?
HP you clearly don't know much about the legal system. These folks would have lawyers lined up in advance who would bring their citizen papers to court and prove that there was a false arrest. There is a Hispanic civil rights organization called LULA C that might be interested in doing these kinds of things, or maybe a new organization could be set up.
The first lawsuit that Donald Trump was ever involved in was in Queens where an organization proved that he and his father were unwilling to rent to black people. They did this by sending black people to run an apartment, who were told that nothing was available, but then 5 minutes later white people come and are rented an apartment. Donald Trump and his father Fred Trump had to pay millions to settle a civil suit.
I know how fascism and fascist governments work. And that is what we are about to have. Do I think everything we have had for 250 years will be gone on 1/21, no I do not. But a year later? Yeah, I do. Maybe not for "normal" crimes, but with regard to the deportations I believe that there will be no due process, and yes, a substantial amount of murder along the way. And none of those murders will be solved because they are not meant to be. They also will not be widely known, because they are not meant to be.
Trumps first lawsuit means nothing. Hell, his last one means nothing too. This is gonna be different from anything any of us have ever seen, except in a documentary.
Well, we will see. So a complete transformation of the United States in a year. Not even Walmart can do that and they are much better organized than Trump.
Hitler became German Chancellor on Jan 30, 1933. The Enabling Act was passed in either March or early April, 1933.
As for a complete transformation, I would direct you to the following line in my comment above: "But a year later? Yeah, I do. Maybe not for "normal" crimes, but with regard to the deportations I believe that there will be no due process..."
I am sure that were I to rob a bank in say May of 2026, I would be caught because I am not really a crook, but more to the point, I would probably get due process. They guy who mows my lawn, probably no due process for him, citizen or not. That is what I think. That is what I learn from history.
That first lawsuit was a half century ago. The US legal system has decayed considerably since then. How much consequences has Trump had from any of his more recent cases, which involved far worse misconduct, up to treason and espionage?
The US legal system is incredibly slow, but Trump did not win, he simply ran out the clock. We have the rest of his life to get back at him.
I have zero faith that he will ever suffer the slightest consequence. Henry Kissinger lived a long long time, and died in his bed never having spent one day in prison.
And I they definitely learned their lesson ——— Susan Collins
Not sure which remark you're commenting on.
For the next four years, the goal is to impede the Trump Administration in the same way that the Muslim ban was reversed and the wall never got built in the first administration.
If a Democrat is elected in 2028, it will be time to convict trump of as much as we possibly can.
I don't think that Trump can learn lessons. But we just may be able to deprive him of his freedom and luxuries.
Cheech Marin did a movie similar to that, in which he got deported to Mexico. His line was "I don't even speak Mexican!"
that aint how a maga dictatorship works.... Dear leader wants to be the commander of law enforcement, courts and all things justice... he would kill those lawsuits with just a phone call.
These would be civil lawsuits filed in Missouri courts for false arrest or in federal courts for violation of civil rights. Trump cannot stop a civil lawsuit. He can only stop his Justice Department from participating in the suit.
Trump can have the plaintiff murdered. That would stop the law suit.
Not every murder gets solved but enough of them would to make the a scandal that would make Watergate look like a picnic.
I love your confidence that the system will hold. I truly wish that I too had been asleep for the past several years.
i hear you... I really do...
I just think Trump will be able to do or stop anything he wants , civil or federal,
as already proven by his getting away with everything...
And that is a sickening thought.
If the judge and jury and appeals court judge are left leaning and luck is on their side with everything is lined up perfect, then yes there could possibly be some justice in civil suits.. I'd be impressed if they'd pull it off.
Clearly, you were not there for the original civil rights movement as I was. The city of Houston TX is currently paying off a number of big settlements for police misbehavior. Sorry to hear you're ready to give up before we even start fighting. During the original civil rights movement I know of at least two white people who posed as minorities so they could report how differently they were treated. If you're convinced it's all hopeless, Don't you have a better use for your Time then sharing comments with people who are actually going to make this a fight?
"Sorry to hear you're ready to give up before we even start fighting." It is kind of late to start fighting now.
yes, clearly you are pushing your own opinion and narratives on others it's too early to start fighting now. Please accept other people's opinions -
I respected yours
History repeats itself when the living memory of the past dies. We who read history are the extension of that memory.
THAT IS THE TRUTH! Those who don't read history, and are too young to remember (which is virtually everyone in the United States), have no clue what is actually going on, or what the ultimate consequences (final solution) may be. It's horrifying to realize this.
The tHROUGH all of this, I know that 88 percent of Americans have NO clue of what happened in WWII
Which literally shocks me beyond words. It's like it never happened... No wonder Jews continue to repeat: "Never again." Those words are generally used in regards to what happened to the 6,000,000 Jews who were slaughtered in the Holocaust. But they should be equally important to all thinking people re what happens in war. How many people realize that FIFTY-THREE MILLION PEOPLE DIED IN WW II, of which two-thirds were CIVILIAN?
Poisoned by ignorance Terri!
And that’s exactly why the Department of Education is the first one on the chopping block. Trump loves the poorly educated.
I remember when he said that. I thought he had to be joking. He wasn't, and they stood up and cheered. It was nauseating.
What you are saying is, “never again.“
That's what my dad (who helped liberate the camps) said. He went home, to the states, and had what was politely termed a "nervous breakdown" afterward, because he saw such horrible things. He couldn't speak about it for forty years. He would be a hundred if he were still alive.
My father, who I think was just 16 or 17 at the time, was with the US Army in France and Germany after D-Day. I wrote about him when the Supreme Court betrayed our WWII dads (and moms)...https://mindsitenews.org/2024/07/03/__trashed/
Thanks for sharing, I look forward to reading it.
About 15 years ago I had a conversation with a survivor of the concentration camps. Her fiancé was murdered. She said she still had nightmares of those years.
My dad only saw the aftermath, but the piles of dead humans and mass burial sites, and the poor survivors who he described as “walking skeletons that we all turned our pockets out to try and feed.” absolutely broke him.
Almost every kid I knew in grade school had a father that served. And most came back and never talked about the War at all. I asked my dad what it was like and he just said "You don't want to know."
Yeah, those who brag about serving and how great war is, are always poseurs, who never saw combat.
Same with my Dad. He never spoke about it.
Well said Charlie
Excellent Susan, hopefully you won’t have a need to use it, but I’m not holding my breath!!
True Charles, time is a flat circle!
Imho, everyone who ever crossed the felon should be pardoned. DAs, prosecutors, judges, witnesses, and others responsible for holding him to account. Also, political figures who have spoken out against him. It would be a very long list, but worth it for the continuation of democracy in this country.
Packing a bag in case of emergency would be a good idea Susan! Putting this neo-feudalistic concept in your rear view mirror by leaving the country another!!
Believe me, I'm ready.
I lived in MO. And I have to say I was shocked that marijuana and abortion passed in such a deep red state. Any thoughts on how that happened?
All sane women, know how important reproductive care is, and reproductive emergencies happen to republican women, too. There is only a very small group of fanatics that are crazy enough to jeopardize every woman's health by banning abortion care.
MO is loaded with fanatics that are that crazy. But I am happy for all the women in MO that it passed.
Having worked in reproductive healthcare clinics, though not in MO. I can tell you Catholic and republican women have procedures as, if not slightly more often.
Me too Susan
*already*
*hugs* if you want them. Me too, and he's not even in yet! Karma, you're late!
Why? there's nothing you can do about it, anyway.
Thank you Jeff.
I just wrote about this for a larger piece I hope to publish tomorrow.
While “news” organizations and pundits are “up in arms” about President Biden pardoning his surviving son, President Biden understands the vindictive nature of the coming storm. Trump has no interest in justice. His interests, which are manifest in his appointments thus far, are in pursuing retribution through absolute loyalists who will do what they are told. If Trump wants Hunter Biden convicted and imprisoned -he will be indicted by Pam Bondi, put in front of Aileen Cannon and be sentenced to as many years in prison that Trump should now be serving. Trump doesn’t like an investigative journalist “enemy of the state” at ProPublica, The Guardian, or Grist? Trump doesn’t like a political opponent, a whistleblower, or a witness? Well, the Supremely Corrupted Court of the U.S. has given him immunity for “official acts”. No witness, no crime.
The fact that frenzied “news” organizations are headlining the pardon is just another symptom of the legacy media disease. It is “sanewashing” because they are effectively creating a frame that the Justice department under Trump appointees Pam Bondi and Kash Patel will remain a fair system representing the interests of the people of the United States. This is a preposterous frame. They are Trump loyalists bought and paid for just as Aileen Cannon was. While I don’t like “whataboutism”, nevertheless here are five Trump pardons for context (notwithstanding that the GOP would never bring “gun charges” against anyone). Hunter was also indicted for a scheme to avoid $1.4 million in federal taxes, and he repaid the entire amount due.
By comparison, let’s quickly look at five of Trump’s pardons:
Joe Arpaio: The former sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, was convicted of criminal contempt for defying a court order to halt racial profiling practices. In August 2017, Trump pardoned Arpaio, a move that drew widespread criticism for endorsing discriminatory law enforcement tactics.
Michael Flynn: Trump's former National Security Advisor pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his communications with the Russian ambassador while undermining sanctions on Russia for annexing Ukraine’s Crimea. In November 2020, Trump granted Flynn a full pardon, raising concerns about undermining accountability for misleading federal investigators.
Roger Stone: A longtime political adviser to Trump, Stone was convicted on charges including obstruction of justice and witness tampering related to the Russia investigation. In July 2020, Trump commuted Stone's 40-month prison sentence, a decision that many viewed as an abuse of presidential power to protect an associate.
Paul Manafort: Trump's former campaign chairman was convicted of tax and bank fraud, as well as failing to disclose foreign lobbying activities. In December 2020, Trump pardoned Manafort, prompting criticism that the pardon was intended to shield a political ally from legal consequences.
Charles Kushner: The father of Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, was convicted of tax evasion, illegal campaign contributions, and witness tampering. Trump's December 2020 pardon of Kushner was controversial due to the severity of the crimes and the personal connection to the president.
And Charles Kushner? Now named as Ambassador to France by the criminal Trump. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/30/charles-kushner-nominated-france-ambassador)
And yes, I still deplore “whataboutism” -but I’ll get over it.
Great job, George.
Thank you!
There’s “whataboutism” and there’s providing context, George. Thank you.
Thank you!
Makes my blood turn cold reading this. SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND WHO WERE FUCKING COWARDS. WE SAW THIS SLOW MOVING TRAIN AND NO ONE DID ANYTHING. WE SCREAMED INTO THE COLD NIGHT AIR. NOTHING REPLIED.
Nicely written, concise and damning.
Thank you Dan.
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I look forward to reading more. You are a gift, George, for excellent, accurate and concise recording of history and reporting. Thank you now and in advance!
Should be an excellent read George!!
Thanks Patrick -that’s what I am aiming at anyway.
Excellent read George.
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And here it is: https://open.substack.com/pub/bomdia/p/and-now-this?r=1p3r9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Thank you so much. I hope my continuing effort is worthy of your kind words.
If this excerpt is any example it definitely is.
“Firewalls Against Fuckery”. Damn. I love the sound of that.
Firewalls Against Trump was the mantra in California immediately after the 2016 election. All Blue State governors should adopt this mindset, as well as the Democrats in Congress. It would be better if they acted like a parliament (vote of no-confidence) and moved more aggressively and effectively against anti-democratic MAGA politics, rather than choosing to always delicately "smooth out the wrinkles" in our political system.
So far the blue state governors are getting ready.
Democratic Firewalls against Fuckery. DFF
All of the pundits suggesting that Biden pardon Trump, and I saw a few of them yesterday, can fuck straight off.
100% agree. It makes no sense to me for a lot of reasons, one of which is that he has already gotten off scot-free. They've started winding down the federal investigations and sentencing for his 34 felonies has been postponed indefinitely. Everyone knew he would make the investigations go away if he was re-elected, and that's what is happening already.
There are no ethical reasons to pardon him, unlike Hunter Biden, but there are no practical reasons either. I'm also so sick of Democrats universally disarming because there is no way in hell a Republican would pardon a Democrat and everyone in the world knows that. The double standards are fucking ridiculous.
Mobbed up career criminals are seldom found guilty, or do time in an oubliette!
Tax fraud is the most common charge that takes them down. Colour me unsurprised that Trump beat the system, where he will continue his corrupt and criminal activities that line his pockets insert!!
Hell yes!
Yep. I had some better ideas, but ya know, karma's a batch, trumpie. Hope you get yours.
All the way to Fuckoffistan Brad
I know, right? The toady Ford pardoning the execrable crook Tricky Dick, is where we as a country went wrong!
Go to town, Joe! Do unto that POS as he has done
January 19 is too fucking late for pardons. That pardon factory needs to start moving at top speed. Just don’t hire a ditzy redhead named Lucy to work on it.
Yes,I totally agree.Full fucking speed ahead with the pardons!!!
LUCY!! Start 'spainin!
'splainin. (Oops!)
Thanks for the smile Kay-EI!!
I would pardon all the independent press corps but screw the corporate media. After all that sane washing, they deserve to be left hung out to dry. Too harsh?
Absolutely Kay El. Start with the NYTimes and work your way down.
No - pardon individual reporters or columnists at WaPo (like Jennifer Rubin) or even NYT who truthfully reported but not the institutions that sanewashed Trump and tried to suck up to him even before he won.
How often did the NYT truthfully report? They were just as guilty as WaPo. Agreed on Rubin though.
Actually, there were some factual NYT articles about Trump and his plans, they were just hidden under a misleading/sycophantic headline.
I don’t dispute this, but if the headline doesn’t tell the truth, what’s the point?
Nope!
Too harsh? Hell no. I said in another comment, the media that has been ripping Joe should get nothing except a chance to find out how far Trump and Kash Patel want to go.
Absolutely not!
Especially ProPublica, they do great investigative journalism.
Yeah, love their work
Nope!!
President Biden should remain fearless. His legacy? There are no longer norms that must be followed to embellish a stellar presidency. In light of the wing-nuts, past practices are simply the past. We have many who have served to strengthen democracy, and they must have security and protection. Do it, Joe. Take the wind out of retribution.
The only thing about Biden's pardons that will break precedent with Trump's is that Biden won't be waiting for a 6- or 7-figure bribe before issuing the pardon.
🎯Yep Andy Borrowitz wrote that trump said it made him look bad, for Biden to not sell pardons!
True dat Nancy!!!!
"Firewalls Against Fuckery" is the new name of my Death Metal ABBA cover band.
FAF will open for the Speed Metal band "Abattoir of Revenge" at the next Fyre Festival.
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Great piece today, enjoy the Nazi parallels, most don’t know much history anymore.. Sad. I apologize for not including Golf with MAGAS the discussion concerning Hunter Biden and his charges. Of course MAGAS at the table were very po’d about it. I broke down the main charge, that being Hunter checked a box on his weapons permit that he did not use drugs. 3 out of 8 at the table have firearms, all 3 smoke dope, so WTF is actually going on here? All at the table are 2nd Amendment folks and yet could not cite a case similar to Hunters. I suggested that maybe we should begin prosecuting gun folks who use drugs.. that went over like a fart in an elevator. Hunter would have never been prosecuted if his name was Jones or Smith, again silence. The stench of hypocrisy was very strong and they realized it.. Best to all.
You cannot be a MAGA, or indeed a conservative, without a huge dose of hypocrisy.
On Target!
Indeed, it is their animating life-force.
Keep up your great work with the Golf Maga crowd. I truly admire your dedication and commitment to sanity! Bravo Fastball Fredo!
Chet, many thanks for your comment. Next week I have decided to pose the question.. Since Donald had 5 years to research people for his new administration, please explain his current choices and why these choices that have no experience in those selected fields? Not to mention “concepts” of a new healthcare plan.
Sweet end round, with your golf pals FF
The closer it gets to January, the more frightening it becomes. I hope Biden’s team has a safety plan they’re going to drop soon.
Be nice if Harris could be president for a few weeks. I think mainstream media would cover that. Diapers would be filled to the max.
Thanks Chris, I’ve been preaching about having the first female president, with Joe stepping down and allowing her the opportunity to rain on the mewling wastrels parade since she replaced Joe as a candidate!!
A lot can happen between now and January. Things are moving at a fast pace.
I don't believe in miracles but I do know the weather can change on a moments notice.
We are all going to need a safety plan.
If they do, they better start executing the plan
Jim Stewartson
@jimstewartson
My fellow Americans,
Today the federal government has taken bold action to prevent an existential threat to the homeland. The FBI, in cooperation with DOJ, has executed a series of raids on people engaged in illegal cooperation with our foreign adversaries.
My administration has also undertaken a massive investigation into the results of the election - not just the results, but how the American people were systematically lied to in a way that benefitted our enemies, and billionaires.
What we know is that the Russian government, under the direction of Vladimir Putin, called in a series of bomb threats to election locations. We will undertake a hand recount in every state that was affected to ensure the integrity of the vote.
Moreover, the damaging effect of propaganda funded and directed by our adversaries, including Elon Musk, on the American people cannot be overstated. To that end, I have directed that X, which was purchased by Elon Musk and blatantly used to interfere with the election, be seized, along with the rest of his assets, including SpaceX and Tesla to prevent further damage to our citizens.
The federal government will not allow, much less subsidize, a man who would threaten our democracy.
The apps Truth Social and Telegram are banned from the United States, along with the dangerous website Rumble. FoxNews has been shut down.
Donald Trump and a number of his co-conspirators have been arrested for Treason against the United States. The evidence is public. You don’t have to search for it. As Maya Angelou said: “When they tell you who they are, believe them.”
I know these may seem like extreme steps, but I have to level with the American people and most importantly to defend you. That was my solemn oath when you elected me - and I’ll be damned if I’m the president that hands over our nation to our enemies.
America is not going anywhere. Thank you.
NOT @JoeBiden (Dark Brandon - maybe...)
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Wow! Excellent! If only……..
He has the guts to pardon his son, now show the guts to save this country.
Why should he have to explain himself to ANYONE? KEEP GOING JOE…
If only… of course, that would start the next civil war. Should be done, though. Donald Trump & his minions are traitors
"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of this land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned with a downright moron."--H.L. Mencken. Sure, the guy was a vile Anti-Semite . . . but he wasn't wrong. Aeschylus wrote that man must suffer to be wise. Well, we're all gonna have feckin' doctorates. To conclude today's Trump Era Triumvirate: "Hell is empty and all the devils are here."--William Shakespeare.
For the record, I’m ok with no pardons for the legacy media, even the “good ones” still on their payroll. If you’re sitting at a table of thousands of Nazis….
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You are accurate, as always!
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I started talking about pre-emptive pardons on November 6th. Trump is the poster boy for sore losers. He has never gotten over the loss that he knows was legitimate. Hey, investigative reporters! How about you start investigating his shadow foreign policy over the last 4 years, including the Afghanistan withdrawal.......
I agree completely, Anita. Theoretically, we have one president at a time.
Theoretically, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and the rest do not make their own private arrangements with Putin, Viktor Orban, etc.
Of course, Nixon and then Reagan got away with negotiating before they were elected, so that they would be elected.
I wish those facts were common knowledge.
Have you noticed other than the brilliant, patriot, Jane Mayer (who exposed the cockroaches known as the Koch brothers) there are few investigative reporters in corporate media? They seem to wait for ProPublica, or independent media to do all the work, then act like they broke the story.