Clearly, you were not there for the original civil rights movement as I was. The city of Houston TX is currently paying off a number of big settlements for police misbehavior. Sorry to hear you're ready to give up before we even start fighting. During the original civil rights movement I know of at least two white people who posed as min…
Clearly, you were not there for the original civil rights movement as I was. The city of Houston TX is currently paying off a number of big settlements for police misbehavior. Sorry to hear you're ready to give up before we even start fighting. During the original civil rights movement I know of at least two white people who posed as minorities so they could report how differently they were treated. If you're convinced it's all hopeless, Don't you have a better use for your Time then sharing comments with people who are actually going to make this a fight?
The phase in which the "White Rose" types are all destroyed until an outside power intervenes-- except that in this case there is no external power strong enough to overthrow this regime.
Are you here to help people give up without a fight? What's your goal in sharing all this hopelessness? My point is that if African Americans could gain their civil rights when they had hundreds of thousands of people ready to murder them in the south, then smart organized people can fight back with significant success.
I'm just really sick of hearing people sugarcoat the situation, and comparisons to long-ago situations when most Americans still held to some kind of moral code and the judiciary was functional are not really any more helpful than comparisons to long-ago situations where the pushback started way too late.
I am too old and tired to fight, prefer to emigrate if I can. If you're going to fight, more power to you, but some advice: stop imagining that the legal system is going to be of much help, when many of the judges are fascist ideologues and others are corrupt, and those who are neither are easily intimidated (remember, Judge Merchan was going to sentence Trump in July? what happened to that?) And on another thread I saw you putting hope in the non-MSM media: nobody who needs to listen is paying attention to any non-MSM media except Fox, Newsmax, and the latest inflammatory YouTube video. I think you are misconstruing what the battlefield is going to be like.
The reason that Judge Merchant could not sentence Trump in July is that the immunity decision came down from SCOTUS, and there had to be hearings about whether presidential immunity would affect the case. Then sentencing was postponed till September, but Merchant came to the conclusion that it should wait until after the election. George Conway criticized that decision vigorously. Sentencing is still supposed to take place sometime in December, and Conway hopes that it will either be a stiff fine or a suspended jail sentence that could possibly be imposed after Trump leaves office.
The case was about conduct when Trump was not President. Merchan could simply have dismissed the bogus motion demanding delay and new hearings. In September Merchan said he did not want the "appearance" that the election was interfering with the judicial process, and instead gave us the REALITY of the judicial process being stopped dead in its tracks. Sentencing is not going to happen in December, or any time in the next four years.
Another great source is George Conway, Who has argued successfully before the Supreme Court. I find Conway's sense of humor delightful. A lot of the podcast is fluff, but when they get down to legal issues he is absolutely perfectly informed.
You've heard the expression: “Lead, follow, or get out of the way.”
I tend to regard those who counsel hopelessness as people who are in the way. Frankly I'm not clear what you mean by respect—I haven't called you any names, and you haven't called me any names. I hardly ever respect hopelessness.
Clearly, you were not there for the original civil rights movement as I was. The city of Houston TX is currently paying off a number of big settlements for police misbehavior. Sorry to hear you're ready to give up before we even start fighting. During the original civil rights movement I know of at least two white people who posed as minorities so they could report how differently they were treated. If you're convinced it's all hopeless, Don't you have a better use for your Time then sharing comments with people who are actually going to make this a fight?
"Sorry to hear you're ready to give up before we even start fighting." It is kind of late to start fighting now.
It's the beginning of a new phase of the fight. And you know that.
The phase in which the "White Rose" types are all destroyed until an outside power intervenes-- except that in this case there is no external power strong enough to overthrow this regime.
Are you here to help people give up without a fight? What's your goal in sharing all this hopelessness? My point is that if African Americans could gain their civil rights when they had hundreds of thousands of people ready to murder them in the south, then smart organized people can fight back with significant success.
I'm just really sick of hearing people sugarcoat the situation, and comparisons to long-ago situations when most Americans still held to some kind of moral code and the judiciary was functional are not really any more helpful than comparisons to long-ago situations where the pushback started way too late.
I am too old and tired to fight, prefer to emigrate if I can. If you're going to fight, more power to you, but some advice: stop imagining that the legal system is going to be of much help, when many of the judges are fascist ideologues and others are corrupt, and those who are neither are easily intimidated (remember, Judge Merchan was going to sentence Trump in July? what happened to that?) And on another thread I saw you putting hope in the non-MSM media: nobody who needs to listen is paying attention to any non-MSM media except Fox, Newsmax, and the latest inflammatory YouTube video. I think you are misconstruing what the battlefield is going to be like.
The reason that Judge Merchant could not sentence Trump in July is that the immunity decision came down from SCOTUS, and there had to be hearings about whether presidential immunity would affect the case. Then sentencing was postponed till September, but Merchant came to the conclusion that it should wait until after the election. George Conway criticized that decision vigorously. Sentencing is still supposed to take place sometime in December, and Conway hopes that it will either be a stiff fine or a suspended jail sentence that could possibly be imposed after Trump leaves office.
The case was about conduct when Trump was not President. Merchan could simply have dismissed the bogus motion demanding delay and new hearings. In September Merchan said he did not want the "appearance" that the election was interfering with the judicial process, and instead gave us the REALITY of the judicial process being stopped dead in its tracks. Sentencing is not going to happen in December, or any time in the next four years.
I get my understanding of the legal situation from Joyce Vance former US attorney
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-democracy-index
Another great source is George Conway, Who has argued successfully before the Supreme Court. I find Conway's sense of humor delightful. A lot of the podcast is fluff, but when they get down to legal issues he is absolutely perfectly informed.
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-democracy-index
Neither of them is in a state of despair.
There are lots of nice places overseas where you can live cheap— hope you find happiness.
yes, clearly you are pushing your own opinion and narratives on others it's too early to start fighting now. Please accept other people's opinions -
I respected yours
You've heard the expression: “Lead, follow, or get out of the way.”
I tend to regard those who counsel hopelessness as people who are in the way. Frankly I'm not clear what you mean by respect—I haven't called you any names, and you haven't called me any names. I hardly ever respect hopelessness.