What the actual fuck? The President of the United States of America wants to arrest a Governor because the Governor is getting in the way of the President breaking laws?!?!?!?!?!?!? Jesus H. Christ… Climb aboard to Hitler era everyone! We must never stop being for democratic principles and raising our voices until they are heard! Whew…had to get that off my chest-and I am really trying not to say the F word as often! lol
Good fucking thing we're not in the same fucking place. With me, it's often every other word. "Where the fuck is the fucking barley? I can't fucking find it!" And I'm such a fucking nice looking old lady.
Ok on the "shame" suggestion - stop. It. These women and men joined the guard to serve their communities and their country. The current administration wants to politicize the military - DO NOT do it.
Would you have wanted MAGA idiots yelling "shame" at NG members during the Biden administration? They follow orders as they were trained. So far, no soldier has done anything egregious. They are trying to do their jobs, people giving them shit will not do anything but harm.
My husband is a retired NG officer. He talks about how difficult it would have been for him to serve this Commander in Chief because he's an embarrassment. Being yelled at would have just made it harder.
yes, shame the senior leadership for not taking a stand. Laying in on a soldier is tough, they are trained to obey not act as the JAG on scene. As for agents and soldiers who act cruelly or beyond their orders, no excuse, no mercy. (retired military)
I'm not sure that a soldier on the ground can just decide that an order to deploy to CA is illegal. Being ordered to shoot civilians would clearly be illegal. I think those serving in the NG deserve our support. Save your wrath for those giving the orders
They are shooting civilians with rubber bullets now. That desensitizes them from taking aim and firing live, fmj rounds on unarmed civilians. It will happen if this continues much longer. It happened at Kent State - four dead.
There is no clear bright line between legal and illegal orders, especially for typical enlisted personnel. A smooth-running machine should not be forced to stop and ponder whether or not to go when the order is given to go. As an enlisted person I thought the whole war was utterly stupid, indefensible. In Lt. Calley's platoon I think I would have known that the order to massacre villagers was not a legal order. But if you are in the Nat Guard and you are deployed to LA, are you going to know what is an illegal order?
I'm retired officer too. My sympathy is to the junior officers on the ground caught in very dangerous situation, a feckless WH/CinC, and no good ROE supporting them.
I was 11 months old and living in Canada in May of 1969 so you may have to explain your reference.
Soldiers do have the right to disobey illegal orders. But expecting an 18 yo who joined the NG to pay for college to get that political in this situation is ridiculous. Hold the administration and the command to account, don't scream at individual soldiers. I thought we'd figured that out by now.
you nailed it. It is their officers who must hold the line on lawful orders. Sadly, the CinC and SecDef have left these good men/women twisting in the breeze.
Oh, dear, a youngster making comments on something she didn't live through and knows nothing about. May 20, 1969. I hope someday soon National Guardsmen (in gas masks)surround 2000 peaceful students (not in gas masks) and a National Guard helicopter flies over you and drops tear gas on you. Trust me, a very enjoyable experience and one you certainly deserve to have. Republicans have done their best in the past to destroy the most beautiful state in the union, and finally, they don't control us anymore and California is the fourth largest economy in the world and supports the USA financially, especially all the red states. If you don't live here, try working harder, so we don't have to send you so much money. And I'm guessing no one has ever explained illegal wars of aggression like Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. I worked my way through Berkeley as a live in babysitter... You know, UC Berkeley, the best public university in the country, then and now.
You don't think the Cosplay Clowns won't blame those NG troops for following orders that were unconstitutional and illegal and should never have been given?
I guarantee you that no one in DC will take the blame in court!
They took an OATH, to defend the Constitution. SHAME on them if they follow illegal orders and violate that oath. A Democracy circling the drain brings volatile and difficult times. That DOES NOT absolve you of your obligation to honor your oath
I'm retired military. We are sworn to obey lawful orders. The issue is the CinC. The issue is the GOP who have become so craven, so opportunistic they are content to put junior officers in a very dangerous position and dump the responsibility to decide what is lawful. Shame, yes, to the GOP in Congress. Sadly, it will take some very courageous senior officers to call this out, and accept the harsh consequences to their careers, their lives.
To go after the NG at this time is ridiculous. Probably 99% plus of them joined before the 2024 election. The ones to go after are the Congressmen/women who support Trump.
My 5yr old grandson had a sucker yesterday and told us it sounds like the f-word. Opps. We try not to say it in his presence. He screams "the bad man" whenever he sees King Shitpants on TV. Which isn't very often.
As a former nurse, i feel your pain. I'll tell you, though, I used to hate the word. Now I use it quite liberally and like AKRebel said above "It may well be the most flexible word in the English language :) Noun, verb, adjective, adverb...so versatile!"
Well Susan is correct, I was the Fucking Market Research Director ordered to do Fucking Focus Groups when a Fucking Phone Survey was what was fucking needed to support a fucking decision
Fortunately I had good bosses and management and staff for most of my fucking career; The situation I described was an outlier, but in retirement you finally get the chance to vent a little 😊
Say it Tess, say the F-Bomb all you want, you might wake up those prissy stick-up their ass people who need a fainting couch over language, but totally miss WHY we are swearing.
Tess, it is all craziness and we must not lose sight of it. As the Guardian had an article on hypernormalization. That is the people who are ignoring what is going on, or finding it acceptable. I would say all of the members of the Republican party are hypernormalizing all so that they can sell out their families and the people they represent and hold on to power.
We the People reject the ideas of Donald Trump! According to the Daily Koz, the majority of Americans do not like what Trump is doing in LA.
I read this piece after starting an article on the Stasi in Humboldt University in Berlin. It starts off telling us that in 1969 about 50 leaflets appeared in the main hall of the main campus building. I was in the building last month so I can picture it. The leaflets told people to boycott the obligatory social science classes because the state was undemocratic and authoritarian and the most elemental freedoms were suppressed.
The 2 students that were secretly typing up and distributing these leaflets and this led to a greater presence of cameras and letters and telephone spying, and every typewriter in the university was gathered up to figure out who was doing this. They compared thousands of written documents looking for a comparison, because these were hand typed. Looking through the files on students etc...They looked at hundreds of thousands of people's registrations of their residences in East Germany.
One was caught as he tried to flee to West Germany, and was given 2 years 8 months prison sentence. His name was Rainer Schottlaender. He was the son of a philosophy professor at the Humboldt University, who was not acknowledged as a full professor because he would not subscribe to Marxism. Both father and son were watched by the state until their death, even though the son lived in West Germany later.
Just reminded of where things can be headed if we do not protest in huge numbers too large to contain.
No shit. Between Dump and the drunken dick who cares more about makeup and hair than his troops, they continue to show the world that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. On a funnier note, did anyone catch that video of the old stumblefuck climbing the stairs of his plane and falling? The caption was perfect. Taco fell.
That photo of troops huddled on the cold floor of a warehouse should be featured in every Dem response, juxtaposed by a photo of Taco Don in his gilded luxury.
The laconic Democrats need to get their lazy asses in front of cameras NOW as they are losing the narrative. The undercover right wing trash heap called NewsNation just had Donny two scoops yammer for 15 minutes about insurrection and his fever dreams. It worse than NEWSMAX.
I’m relieved I’m not the only one who gets some very Fox news Lite energy from News Nation. They claim to be moderate, middle-of-the-road, “just the facts” but the few times I’ve turned to it, I get a bad vibe. Giving Bill O’Reilly and Chris Cuomo time on there is a bad look if you are claiming to be a neutral news source.
I had hoped NN would have more integrity when it came on the scene but quit watching when Bill OReilly was announced As a regular contributor. Cuomo implies he’s in charge of his own show. True?
I don’t think the corporate ms media overloads making $$$ off trump in power will feature strong democrats stating truths- just my opinion, ya know- but I haven’t seen much opportunity offered to democrats since the media brought the creature on the fake gold escalator to power. (Well all know the clown show gets MUCH higher ratings than boring government working for all of us.)
Which is why independent media is doing so very well right now. Did you completely miss Brian Tyler Cohen’s interview with Newsom?
The only alternative to main stream media is fringe media. I don't know how else to explain this, but MSNBC and CBS are main stream and they're reliable. So this Main stream media talk is pretty silly. It's like talking about Neo liberalism. Work it out.
As always the "troops" are just a jingoistic talisman for Republicans to hide behind as they crush the freedoms of vulnerable minorities in the unreconstructed hellholes that they control. That's also why trash companies like the NFL hide behind them too even as they flagrantly violate the health of their players.
Not to mention a place to shit. Are the cops going to arrest the first one that gets tired of clenching his buttcheeks and drops a deuce on the sidewalk like the homeless they love to hate on?
We should win this. Obviously, they can't plan for the obvious, not even a minute in advance. No toilets, food, water and cots? Even in Berkeley in 1969 the NG had that under Reagan. Maybe we should offer the NG places to stay. Of course, it might be hard to get them together again, but, oh, well....
I don't know who you are, how old you are, and where you live. Of course, Reagan wasn't president in 1969. He was governor of California, and Berkeley is in, surprise, California. I'm not offering them places to stay, I'm just saying that if Reagan, not the brightest star in the sky, could do it right, it just gives you an idea how mentally challenged Hegseth is. The National Guard--on May 20, 1969, they penned 2000 peaceful demonstrators in Lower Sproul Plaza at the University of California in Berkeley, and flew a helicopter over and dropped tear gas on those people. The National Guard is not a group of nice people when they do that. Perhaps you'll have a chance to have it done to you some day.
I am sorry, I stand corrected. I was alive in 1969 but only 4 years old (but I do know where Berkeley is). I know things were much different then, but I just can't imagine not thanking someone in uniform, especially now, with this whack job of an administration. I will be at a demonstration on Saturday, not my first, and hopefully not my last--unless there wouldn't be a need for them, wouldn't that be nice.
Weird how the msm doesn’t IMMEDIATELY state the legal limits of these ‘actions’… I have to dumpster dive til someone finally throws a fact out there :/ it’s REALLY exhausting… (would help reduce stress if that’s important to anyone…) anyone?
Seek out independent media sources. Don’t look to the MSM for any truth. They were bought and paid for long ago. Remember, especially during the last two years or so, when they were busily “obeying in advance”? They are now simply obeying.
Yes, MzNicky! A trusted list of sources is absolutely critical for every American that wants to fight back. Disinformation has been completely normalized. The truth is out there. You just have to know how to find it.
I couldn't stand to watch ABC News coverage while I was eating yesterday. Hysterical focus on those Mexican flags being carried! Also claimed that the reporter who took a rubber bullet from the LAPD psychopath was disobeying orders to disperse. Maybe BBC did a better job of reporting.
Even Jon Stewart last night started out with a big hoo-hah about L.A. in flames. Lots of pics of burning cars. Very disappointing. Even if he was joking, repeating the burning cars pics puts emphasis on them. He should have showed peaceful people with signs, to contrast with Drumpf's "incendiary" ranting.
Using Waymo self-driving taxis as car bomb delivery systems was nearly Ukraine-level brilliant, though. Looks like they discovered a new use for Teslas.
I hadn’t seen him that way. I thought he cracked on Biden too much, and I haven’t always like his approach since he came back as host, but his guests have seemed to be liberals. Even the other night, he came down against the orange blob, after the first couple minutes. His initial framing was just all wrong. A caveat, however: I haven't followed him closely over the years.
He's been disappointing a lot, since he came back to the show. Some of his bits are just plain asisine, IMO. Last night's sketch with Jordan Klepper was embarrassingly stupid.
Well because of Murc's Law they're not allowed to actually critically examine the wrongness of Republican Presidents, especially ones slated to give their owners those Republican high-income tax cuts!
Don’t watch a second of MSM. Until they get their shit back together, if they ever do, they are not worth any of our time. PBS, NPR, BBC and right here is where I get my news. Fuck ABC, CBS, etc.
Didn't D have a golf club up his ass on his way to the course? He doesn't know alot of details unless it's a subject t that he loves....like Putin. D is acting out cause his boyfriend got his ass kicked by 120 homemade drones.
Where are the Democrats? Shouldn't they have pressers daily…or even hourly…to point out the lies and BULLSHIT?? There are cultists who continue to believe this crap…I suppose there always will be since racism is sadly a pillar of American society. But educate & inform people. I feel-and I could be wrong-I’m not hearing enough from the Democratic party.
Well, there are Democratic representatives trying to get into detention centers and being turned back. I am sure there are more speaking out - but they aren't getting press coverage. Just because we don't see them in the press doesn't mean they aren't trying.
Last night, Rep. Norma Torres was interviewed on PBS New Hour. She pointed out that the building those arrested were put in had a stated capacity of 100 people. She was not allowed in to see what it was like with two or three times that many held inside. Toilets for that many?
Jeff Tiedrich showed photos of National Guard troops sleeping on warehouse floors. Called up, but not provided for.
The Democrats still haven't caught on to the fact that they are up against one of the most effective marketing teams in the world's history. The Democrat messaging game is not there at all.
Sen. Brian Schatz (Hawaii) issued a strong statement condemning Trump's response to the protests, calling it the stuff of dictatorships. Totally suppressed in MSM. Even "both sides-ism" has been 86ed by corporate media.
So she isn’t allowed to travel and eat out? BTW, the Dems are too busy actually working to hold pressers non-stop. and what do you mean by things being manufactured?
Goodness, it’s not about her going out and eating, AddaG. It’s about the 𝕋𝕀𝕄𝕀ℕ𝔾 of this reporting. She was the SF District Attorney when Newsom was our Mayor back in 2002-2011.
While Newsom and Angelenos are under duress they report her eating out?Ridiculous.
The charade in LA is manufactured by Trump and Homan. The MSM is pushing the manufactured BS out of the WH to jiggle the MAGA base into another fury.
Could you tell me what “the Dems are too busy actually working” on that precludes them from holding pressers, let alone showing up, as John and Jane Q. Public are constantly being beseeched to do? Kamala Harris, or whoever is currently the putative leader of the Democratic party, should be out there in the streets of LA right now, gettin’ down and dirty with non-violent protesters. Instead she’s being shown dining at a fine restaurant. Isn’t avoiding ‘bad optics’ a big part of your playbook, Democrats? This is an example of how your apparent cluelessness is failing your constituents so badly.
See my comment above about Maxine Waters, Nicky. She was in the street, standing up to the Guard. As Congresscritters go, it takes an old woman, I guess. More spine than 95% of her colleagues.
If you could see me, my head is turned sideways like a questioning pooch. I know there are fab Japanese restaurants in the East Bay. Not sure what your point is. But anyway, enjoy some sushi!
Well, I don't like sushi, and my son, who does, usually gets Japanese take out and maybe I have a piece or two vegetable tempura, preferably sweet potato.
I'm beginning to believe the Dems are constitutionally incapable of getting together to call tRump out on this. God Dammit, Dems - put someone out there who can string together rational sentences and let them speak for us.
As a Californian, I have my issues with Newsom but I think the way he is responding to this, specifically, is spot-on. Call out the bullshit, make it clear that this a manufactured crisis by TFG and his sewer clowns. Make it clear the vast majority of the protests are peaceful, and there are always going to be a few people who take advantage of situations like this to light shit on fire, which should be condemned. Show some passion and backbone for ffs and take them on head first*.
*I realize that as a white man who is Governor of the country's largest state, Newsom is probably in a unique position to do so, but the playbook should be the same for every single elected Dem.
I guess that's going to be Newsome, for now. The Dems are constantly pushing back, they just don't get any coverage from the MSM, especially Faux News.
It is all about numbers. I'm hoping for millions of ordinary Americans getting up and going out to make their voices heard and their displeasure known.
The House has formed one. The person who represents my district posted pics and content in her weekly email updates. They were part of a shadow committee.
It's been said the progressives are out there. However, John 'I lost my mind and can't find it' Fetterman fucking bitched about Democrats supporting violent protests. He can stick his dick in his mouth and sew his lips together permanently. That would solve that problem.
I supported him. It was way too soon for his return to making decisions that affect all our lives. He needs to be home healing. Strokes are brutal. My mother had one sitting on my couch 6 yrs ago. My father and my sister each had one in their 30's.
Watching with horror from Canada, and wondering if the Democrats even exist any more. Where are they? They are complicit in their silence and invisibility. What's up with that?
They’re one-half of the corporate two-party system industrial complex. Most of them are as eager to maintain their phoney-baloney jobs and remain feeding at the government money-and-power trough as Republians are. They’re politicians.
Chris Murphy was venting his outrage, and 86-year-old Maxine Waters was out in the street, facing the National Guard. She implored them not to shoot anyone. What a woman!
Good point, Charles. There was a big write-up last week or so about the Dems doing all this research about reaching the manosphere. Why not just find some testicular fortitude and get behind the working class and poor in this country?? THAT would be a message! IOW, use Bernie as their guru.
Agreed Susan......Passivity is burying them. This situation was a perfect one to explain at a weekly 'presser'. But Donny is put there lying and exaggerating and no one is refuting him....except Newsome & the Mayor.
It would be nice if the general population of America could hear and see what the Democrats are trying to share. There is no doubt they are struggling with their messaging but the right wing propaganda has been excellent and difficult to overcome when our corporate media wont give equal time. Like I said, maybe they buy TV time? Buy Newspaper ads? Radio time? Talk shows? Send in Pete B. He's brilliant. Or host a national town hall in prime time.
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Wouldn't it be great (and very L.A.) if a whole group of drag queens did show up, in full fabulousness, with food and water for the National Guard troops? Sure, the troops don't belong here and aren't needed, but they're just as much victims of Trump/ICE performative fascism as the day laborers at Home Depot.
Great idea to feed them!! That's legal isn't it?? Protestors are NOT angry at police or National Guard...its the ahole in DC! Why aren't the Dems taking advantage of this and driving the narrative??? JFC.
There was more destruction in Philly when the Eagles won the Super Bowl...and the Nat'l Guard was not called out...and btw, who are these hooded provocateurs attacking exactly where the cameras are pointing? Proud Boys in the employ of Himmler Miller?
Masked provocateurs did the same thing in the George Floyd protests. Some masked white guy was breaking a window when peaceful protestors intervened. He was never arrested but turned out to be a member of the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood.
The Portland protests were a microcosm of this approach. Peaceful protests all day long, but, as nighttime descended, the anarchists would arrive and begin destroying property and instigating violence. Predictably, Orange Shitler latched onto that, calling it “insane liberal radicals.” You were expecting the truth?
It's funny, but Berkeley, back in the day, never had any violence at all (well, there was an 8pm curfew), and during the actual day, any violence consisted of bricks being thrown windows, primarily through Bank of America windows, which were bricked up after the first few demonstrations. Stores put plywood over their windows. Now the riots in Oakland over Oscar somebody, did feature violence in 2010, but these were largely shoe stores and looters. Berkeley never did looters. My impression has also been, if there are looters, they're not political. They're criminals.
I believe that Trump plans nothing. He lashes out with his lizard brain, but then he has a pretty good instinct for when he has to back down. That's why he is Generalissimo TACO. However, beating up on Hispanics in the streets of LA, means she never has to back down.
Trump has come up with his best distraction yet. Shooting rubber bullets at young Hispanics in the streets of LA. Who's gonna pay attention to the Big Ugly Bill while this is going on?
It seems that TACO may have galvanized the resistance in his stupidity. Protests against ICE raids are spreading to other cities. I hope they remain peaceful.
Well, you know Drumpf is just waiting for people to be killed. Then he will declare Marshall law and take over everything. That's the plan. It's only a matter of time. We have to get out in force on Saturday. If you can't march, at least drive by and honk continuously. Support democracy on Saturday morning.
He has never planned anything and it shows. Chaos is certainly not, as has been said, a strategy. His "strategy" is to degrade and insult, let you do the work and then fight you to not pay you. There is not one redeeming feature or quality to this disgusting human being, who is barely barely human and devoid of any of the qualities that make living worthwhile. Same for Musk. Of course they were never going to get along over the long haul doing work together. What were they thinking? Oh, yeah, that would be another lacking quality. They don't think in those terms ever.
The repubs in congress are doing the opposite. They're laying down and seeing how little they can do in order to let that fucking dictator destroy America
You have to be assbolutely shameless to be a repub. This maneuver sounds just like when those liars vote against a funding bill, then show up at the public ribbon cutting/unveiling to claim credit
“If I can be a little glib: the Democratic Party leadership wants simultaneously to lead, follow, and get out of the way, and as a result have comprehensively failed to do any of them…”
ICE Barbie just called Los Angeles a “city of criminals.” Really???
Most of us are just over here working and coping with traffic, which we were doing just fine until ICE invaded and decided to target day laborers at Home Depot. Don’t like L.A.? Then please stay out, we’re begging you.
Huh. Whaddya know. Hillary and Kamala knew what the fuck they were talking about. A woman and a Black/Indian woman too. All those misogynist-racist fucks who JUST COULDN'T vote for either of them can go fuck themselves
Arrest Gavin Newsom? Ok, because that will surely elevate Newsom's profile for election 2028. Newsom knows this too and wouldn't even get through the booking process if some jackboot thugs put bracelets on him. He was absolutely right to dare them to "just get it over with". While human, and not without missteps, Gavin Newsom remains one of the bravest politicians to have emerged in my lifetime. On this point, I will never waiver. It is because of him that my BFF was able to marry the love of his life in SF when Newsom approved of same sex marriages. A few years later, voters undermined this act. But in the end, the country rallied and same sex marriage became legal. Newsom started the ball rolling. He has my respect and loyalty for the duration.
It had to be intentional, Kay-El. Putting complete morons in charge of our government agencies is either an intentional act to create chaos, or, there is not one MAGAT alive with a working brain - that is not overruled by their wallet - to staff the job.
No one is going to deny these fucksticks are incompetent lawless jackass's, BUT the pictures of the troops sleeping on the ground is fairly "normal" for a rapid deployment - It's just that the deployment is against Americans - That's NOT normal. They carry their own water, and there is a box of MRE's sitting on the table.
Hopefully the officers leading them will remember their oath when Hegseth gives the order to fire on the protesters.
The rest of it is all batshit crazy - oh, and while trump is channeling hitler, RFK jr is cutting all17 vaccine advisors.
After a few days their officers will have taken care of all those problems. People in the military are used to sleeping on the ground and not taking showers - well maybe not the Air Force, but all the other services. I was in the Navy, and I cannot tell you how many times we went without showers and slept on the deckplates. These guys will not be doing it for very long.
It was a "rapid deployment," that means they leave with the gear they can carry, logistics comes later. I'm willing to bet supplies are already there. I'm not sure what "pads" you're talking about, they don't get pads; but eventually they will have cots if they are there for an extended period of time. Believe it or not they train to do this, and expect to sleep wherever they can.
What the actual fuck? The President of the United States of America wants to arrest a Governor because the Governor is getting in the way of the President breaking laws?!?!?!?!?!?!? Jesus H. Christ… Climb aboard to Hitler era everyone! We must never stop being for democratic principles and raising our voices until they are heard! Whew…had to get that off my chest-and I am really trying not to say the F word as often! lol
Fuck is the ONLY word that applies right now, unfortunately. I say it every time I turn on the news.
I say fuck about eleven times in every sentence.
And I think it is becoming permanent.
I wake up chanting fuck that guy fuck that guy…maybe I’m not so fun anymore. :)
I'm with you!
Good fucking thing we're not in the same fucking place. With me, it's often every other word. "Where the fuck is the fucking barley? I can't fucking find it!" And I'm such a fucking nice looking old lady.
You sound like fun! Pass the fucking salt, please.
get it your fucking self
Yup...stay fucking salty! That's my motto. I actually swear more and use filthier language than my spouse who was a Marine during the 70's.
I use fuck liberally in my comments. It's become so fucking natural that I have to fucking suppress my usage in fucking public. Fuck the public🤓
I found my people!
It always feels so fucking good to just say fuck you, you fucking asshole! Such fucking satisfaction. 👹😈😤
me too and i like it
Same. Same.
Me too!!!
In numerous forms: “What the fuck?!” “Holy fuck!” “We’re fucked!” “Fucking hell!” “Fuck me!” Etc, etc…
It may well be the most flexible word in the English language :) Noun, verb, adjective, adverb...so versatile!
And my perennial favorite, "Are you fucking kidding me?"
FUCKITY - BYE !
One of my favorites!
My personal fave :
“What the Fuck Ever!”
The word you want to use is "Shame!" in reference to anyone in a national guard or marine uniform. Try not to say "Thank you for your service."
Ok on the "shame" suggestion - stop. It. These women and men joined the guard to serve their communities and their country. The current administration wants to politicize the military - DO NOT do it.
Would you have wanted MAGA idiots yelling "shame" at NG members during the Biden administration? They follow orders as they were trained. So far, no soldier has done anything egregious. They are trying to do their jobs, people giving them shit will not do anything but harm.
My husband is a retired NG officer. He talks about how difficult it would have been for him to serve this Commander in Chief because he's an embarrassment. Being yelled at would have just made it harder.
Don't
ICE officers are just following orders too. I'll shame the fuck out of anyone involved in this, and I say this as the daughter of a veteran.
yes, shame the senior leadership for not taking a stand. Laying in on a soldier is tough, they are trained to obey not act as the JAG on scene. As for agents and soldiers who act cruelly or beyond their orders, no excuse, no mercy. (retired military)
They are choosing to follow illegal orders. Remember what happened in the Nuremberg Trials. “I was just following orders,” is NOT a defense.
I'm not sure that a soldier on the ground can just decide that an order to deploy to CA is illegal. Being ordered to shoot civilians would clearly be illegal. I think those serving in the NG deserve our support. Save your wrath for those giving the orders
They are shooting civilians with rubber bullets now. That desensitizes them from taking aim and firing live, fmj rounds on unarmed civilians. It will happen if this continues much longer. It happened at Kent State - four dead.
There is no clear bright line between legal and illegal orders, especially for typical enlisted personnel. A smooth-running machine should not be forced to stop and ponder whether or not to go when the order is given to go. As an enlisted person I thought the whole war was utterly stupid, indefensible. In Lt. Calley's platoon I think I would have known that the order to massacre villagers was not a legal order. But if you are in the Nat Guard and you are deployed to LA, are you going to know what is an illegal order?
I'm retired officer too. My sympathy is to the junior officers on the ground caught in very dangerous situation, a feckless WH/CinC, and no good ROE supporting them.
My sympathy is with the people they hurt.
You weren't in Berkeley in May 1969, were you?
I was 11 months old and living in Canada in May of 1969 so you may have to explain your reference.
Soldiers do have the right to disobey illegal orders. But expecting an 18 yo who joined the NG to pay for college to get that political in this situation is ridiculous. Hold the administration and the command to account, don't scream at individual soldiers. I thought we'd figured that out by now.
you nailed it. It is their officers who must hold the line on lawful orders. Sadly, the CinC and SecDef have left these good men/women twisting in the breeze.
Oh, dear, a youngster making comments on something she didn't live through and knows nothing about. May 20, 1969. I hope someday soon National Guardsmen (in gas masks)surround 2000 peaceful students (not in gas masks) and a National Guard helicopter flies over you and drops tear gas on you. Trust me, a very enjoyable experience and one you certainly deserve to have. Republicans have done their best in the past to destroy the most beautiful state in the union, and finally, they don't control us anymore and California is the fourth largest economy in the world and supports the USA financially, especially all the red states. If you don't live here, try working harder, so we don't have to send you so much money. And I'm guessing no one has ever explained illegal wars of aggression like Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. I worked my way through Berkeley as a live in babysitter... You know, UC Berkeley, the best public university in the country, then and now.
You don't think the Cosplay Clowns won't blame those NG troops for following orders that were unconstitutional and illegal and should never have been given?
I guarantee you that no one in DC will take the blame in court!
They took an OATH, to defend the Constitution. SHAME on them if they follow illegal orders and violate that oath. A Democracy circling the drain brings volatile and difficult times. That DOES NOT absolve you of your obligation to honor your oath
I'm retired military. We are sworn to obey lawful orders. The issue is the CinC. The issue is the GOP who have become so craven, so opportunistic they are content to put junior officers in a very dangerous position and dump the responsibility to decide what is lawful. Shame, yes, to the GOP in Congress. Sadly, it will take some very courageous senior officers to call this out, and accept the harsh consequences to their careers, their lives.
NG or police are NOT our enemy. It's Tommy and the ICE Brownshirts....
To go after the NG at this time is ridiculous. Probably 99% plus of them joined before the 2024 election. The ones to go after are the Congressmen/women who support Trump.
I never really swear, but now I'm using the F word a lot when watching the news!
I became the swearing queen during the orange psychopath's first term and I've been back at it since last November's election....
It’s a powerful word, Tess, one that reflects our current mess accurately! But then my career was in advertising, so I toss it around quite freely. 😂😂
My 5yr old grandson had a sucker yesterday and told us it sounds like the f-word. Opps. We try not to say it in his presence. He screams "the bad man" whenever he sees King Shitpants on TV. Which isn't very often.
LOL! “The Bad Man”…. he’s not wrong! 😂😂
Nope!😂😂
My granddaughter loved trucks. One of her first words. Of course she called them fucks at least 50 times a day.
That's hilarious!🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤪🤪🤪
King Shitpants! That was a good one! 🤭🤣
My career is nursing so I have a crater size hole in my tongue from biting it because I can't say the F word out loud.
As a former nurse, i feel your pain. I'll tell you, though, I used to hate the word. Now I use it quite liberally and like AKRebel said above "It may well be the most flexible word in the English language :) Noun, verb, adjective, adverb...so versatile!"
I think back and I never used the word before nursing school. Now when I'm around "normal" people (not in healthcare), I have to watch my mouth.
Well Susan is correct, I was the Fucking Market Research Director ordered to do Fucking Focus Groups when a Fucking Phone Survey was what was fucking needed to support a fucking decision
You obviously fucking loved your fucking job🤓
Fortunately I had good bosses and management and staff for most of my fucking career; The situation I described was an outlier, but in retirement you finally get the chance to vent a little 😊
I did not literally have a fucking career, not to disparage those who choose that path
😂😂😂
The F word is now Fascism or Fascist. And either way, Fuck them both! Haha, I think.
It's hard not to say the F-word with all the fascism and stupidity going through Maladministration 2.0.
I'll be out there on Saturday the 14th. I hope thousands of other people will join us on No Kings Day.
The closest protest to me is an hour away in little Ironwood, Michigan. So proud of those people; you can bet I'll be there!!!
I hope so, too!
I think fuck is close to the first word I say each day when I open my IPad and see fascist 🐽tRUMP then it’s you’re still here MF’R
Tess, the “F Word” is definitely in play. Use it and use it often.
Although, my vocabulary has grown ginormously since I started reading Jeff.
Fuck is a powerful, friendly and loving word Tess… the rest of your post is perfectly prescient!!
I'm with Linda. FUCK is the only word worth saying these days.....Fuck him can be heard daily in my house.....
Say it Tess, say the F-Bomb all you want, you might wake up those prissy stick-up their ass people who need a fainting couch over language, but totally miss WHY we are swearing.
Donald’s sick brain operates in the upside down world. The rational response is Fuck.
Always remember the MAGA TRASH Who did this to the United States on The eve of our 250th anniversary
Tess, it is all craziness and we must not lose sight of it. As the Guardian had an article on hypernormalization. That is the people who are ignoring what is going on, or finding it acceptable. I would say all of the members of the Republican party are hypernormalizing all so that they can sell out their families and the people they represent and hold on to power.
We the People reject the ideas of Donald Trump! According to the Daily Koz, the majority of Americans do not like what Trump is doing in LA.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/6/10/2327039/-Americans-largely-reject-Trump-s-military-invasion-of-California?detail=emailrecap
I read this piece after starting an article on the Stasi in Humboldt University in Berlin. It starts off telling us that in 1969 about 50 leaflets appeared in the main hall of the main campus building. I was in the building last month so I can picture it. The leaflets told people to boycott the obligatory social science classes because the state was undemocratic and authoritarian and the most elemental freedoms were suppressed.
The 2 students that were secretly typing up and distributing these leaflets and this led to a greater presence of cameras and letters and telephone spying, and every typewriter in the university was gathered up to figure out who was doing this. They compared thousands of written documents looking for a comparison, because these were hand typed. Looking through the files on students etc...They looked at hundreds of thousands of people's registrations of their residences in East Germany.
One was caught as he tried to flee to West Germany, and was given 2 years 8 months prison sentence. His name was Rainer Schottlaender. He was the son of a philosophy professor at the Humboldt University, who was not acknowledged as a full professor because he would not subscribe to Marxism. Both father and son were watched by the state until their death, even though the son lived in West Germany later.
Just reminded of where things can be headed if we do not protest in huge numbers too large to contain.
In Solidarity!! ✌🏽
Say it loud, say it proud. Never apologize, never back down, if the word fits, use it.
“Tuck Frump” expresses my sentiments well without technically swearing.
Don Taco clearly believes "suckers" and "losers" don't deserve food, water and a place to rest.
No shit. Between Dump and the drunken dick who cares more about makeup and hair than his troops, they continue to show the world that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. On a funnier note, did anyone catch that video of the old stumblefuck climbing the stairs of his plane and falling? The caption was perfect. Taco fell.
One of the videos clearly shows his 3" heel lifts
Taco Felon.
😂
Oh, Lord. I watch it on repeat. What a toxic Maroon.
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😂😂😂
What infuriated me was that it was not on national news 24/7 like when Biden did the same thing. The mainstream media is no longer our friend.
That photo of troops huddled on the cold floor of a warehouse should be featured in every Dem response, juxtaposed by a photo of Taco Don in his gilded luxury.
Tom should be hired by the DNC to craft
Dem’s messages!
The laconic Democrats need to get their lazy asses in front of cameras NOW as they are losing the narrative. The undercover right wing trash heap called NewsNation just had Donny two scoops yammer for 15 minutes about insurrection and his fever dreams. It worse than NEWSMAX.
I’m relieved I’m not the only one who gets some very Fox news Lite energy from News Nation. They claim to be moderate, middle-of-the-road, “just the facts” but the few times I’ve turned to it, I get a bad vibe. Giving Bill O’Reilly and Chris Cuomo time on there is a bad look if you are claiming to be a neutral news source.
I had hoped NN would have more integrity when it came on the scene but quit watching when Bill OReilly was announced As a regular contributor. Cuomo implies he’s in charge of his own show. True?
I don’t think the corporate ms media overloads making $$$ off trump in power will feature strong democrats stating truths- just my opinion, ya know- but I haven’t seen much opportunity offered to democrats since the media brought the creature on the fake gold escalator to power. (Well all know the clown show gets MUCH higher ratings than boring government working for all of us.)
Which is why independent media is doing so very well right now. Did you completely miss Brian Tyler Cohen’s interview with Newsom?
Just sayin.
I meant “overlords” but overloads works ok too. Thanks, spellcheck!! 🤦🏻♀️
The only alternative to main stream media is fringe media. I don't know how else to explain this, but MSNBC and CBS are main stream and they're reliable. So this Main stream media talk is pretty silly. It's like talking about Neo liberalism. Work it out.
Pres Plump gets all the food, water, gold toilets and mattresses. No soup for you!
And two scoops of ice cream on his chocolate cake.
As always the "troops" are just a jingoistic talisman for Republicans to hide behind as they crush the freedoms of vulnerable minorities in the unreconstructed hellholes that they control. That's also why trash companies like the NFL hide behind them too even as they flagrantly violate the health of their players.
👆👆👆👆🎯Yes they pretend to love the troops, but hate the soldiers, and deny them care whenever they can.
Oh SO LIKE.
Oh I freekin loathe that big mouth Commissioner
Not to mention a place to shit. Are the cops going to arrest the first one that gets tired of clenching his buttcheeks and drops a deuce on the sidewalk like the homeless they love to hate on?
Wish they would line up on a 2x4 and do their business on the sidewalk.
We should win this. Obviously, they can't plan for the obvious, not even a minute in advance. No toilets, food, water and cots? Even in Berkeley in 1969 the NG had that under Reagan. Maybe we should offer the NG places to stay. Of course, it might be hard to get them together again, but, oh, well....
Reagan wasn't president in 1969... First you say to shame anyone in a NG uniform, and now you're going to offer them places to stay? I'm so confused.
No, Reagan was the governor of California at the time!
I don't know who you are, how old you are, and where you live. Of course, Reagan wasn't president in 1969. He was governor of California, and Berkeley is in, surprise, California. I'm not offering them places to stay, I'm just saying that if Reagan, not the brightest star in the sky, could do it right, it just gives you an idea how mentally challenged Hegseth is. The National Guard--on May 20, 1969, they penned 2000 peaceful demonstrators in Lower Sproul Plaza at the University of California in Berkeley, and flew a helicopter over and dropped tear gas on those people. The National Guard is not a group of nice people when they do that. Perhaps you'll have a chance to have it done to you some day.
I am sorry, I stand corrected. I was alive in 1969 but only 4 years old (but I do know where Berkeley is). I know things were much different then, but I just can't imagine not thanking someone in uniform, especially now, with this whack job of an administration. I will be at a demonstration on Saturday, not my first, and hopefully not my last--unless there wouldn't be a need for them, wouldn't that be nice.
Proof once again that the GQP only “supports the troops” as backdrops.
True dat Mark!!
They are toys to him, and he treats them like the bully "Sid" in "Toy Story".
Or poop!!
(Re: arresting Newsom):
Three things about this comment:
1. Homan is a White House adviser who doesn't have the power to arrest anyone. Neither does Trump.
2. Trump once again acts like he's not in charge. "If I were Tom, I'd do it." Uh, doesn't he work for you?
3. THREATENING TO ARREST A GOVERNOR IS A FIVE ALARM FIRE
-kevinmkruse@bsky.social
Weird how the msm doesn’t IMMEDIATELY state the legal limits of these ‘actions’… I have to dumpster dive til someone finally throws a fact out there :/ it’s REALLY exhausting… (would help reduce stress if that’s important to anyone…) anyone?
Seek out independent media sources. Don’t look to the MSM for any truth. They were bought and paid for long ago. Remember, especially during the last two years or so, when they were busily “obeying in advance”? They are now simply obeying.
Yes, MzNicky! A trusted list of sources is absolutely critical for every American that wants to fight back. Disinformation has been completely normalized. The truth is out there. You just have to know how to find it.
I couldn't stand to watch ABC News coverage while I was eating yesterday. Hysterical focus on those Mexican flags being carried! Also claimed that the reporter who took a rubber bullet from the LAPD psychopath was disobeying orders to disperse. Maybe BBC did a better job of reporting.
Read the Guardian. No paywall. Two reporters took rubber bullets. Australian prime minister condemned the attack on Aussie woman reporter.
If a person is ignoring an order to disperse, you MOVE them. You do not SHOOT them.
Honestly Walt, you'd think so, but in my life, they'd throw tear gas or hit them with billy clubs.
Considering there is footage that the guardsman aimed at the reporter who was doing nothing wrong, on purpose, that sucks.
Even Jon Stewart last night started out with a big hoo-hah about L.A. in flames. Lots of pics of burning cars. Very disappointing. Even if he was joking, repeating the burning cars pics puts emphasis on them. He should have showed peaceful people with signs, to contrast with Drumpf's "incendiary" ranting.
Using Waymo self-driving taxis as car bomb delivery systems was nearly Ukraine-level brilliant, though. Looks like they discovered a new use for Teslas.
I hadn't realized that's what was going on with the Waymos. Stewart pretty much said that the protesters were calling Waymos so they could torch them.
"Even" Jon Stewart? He's been a bothsider a long time now.
I hadn’t seen him that way. I thought he cracked on Biden too much, and I haven’t always like his approach since he came back as host, but his guests have seemed to be liberals. Even the other night, he came down against the orange blob, after the first couple minutes. His initial framing was just all wrong. A caveat, however: I haven't followed him closely over the years.
What happened to him. IDK :/
He's been disappointing a lot, since he came back to the show. Some of his bits are just plain asisine, IMO. Last night's sketch with Jordan Klepper was embarrassingly stupid.
ABC is dead to me
All the "Joe Biden is OLD" stories were the new "But her emails".
How is this playing in TN? Would people have their guns out?
It's all just stenography at this point.
"This is something happening. Here are some pictures.
Let's break now for station identification."
And a message from our sponsors!
✋️ 🤓
Now Sunny, we know what to expect from the oligarch owned media. The absolute worst.
Well because of Murc's Law they're not allowed to actually critically examine the wrongness of Republican Presidents, especially ones slated to give their owners those Republican high-income tax cuts!
Just FYI, Jay Kuo has a good summary of the orange blob's powers here.
https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/trump-deployed-the-national-guard?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true
Thx
Don’t watch a second of MSM. Until they get their shit back together, if they ever do, they are not worth any of our time. PBS, NPR, BBC and right here is where I get my news. Fuck ABC, CBS, etc.
Stop with the MSM bullshit. It's the only media we have. 🤣
Right on Sunny, neither of those 2 wastrels has any power to arrest anyone!!
Didn't D have a golf club up his ass on his way to the course? He doesn't know alot of details unless it's a subject t that he loves....like Putin. D is acting out cause his boyfriend got his ass kicked by 120 homemade drones.
Where are the Democrats? Shouldn't they have pressers daily…or even hourly…to point out the lies and BULLSHIT?? There are cultists who continue to believe this crap…I suppose there always will be since racism is sadly a pillar of American society. But educate & inform people. I feel-and I could be wrong-I’m not hearing enough from the Democratic party.
Dammit. We’re such a fucking mess. 😭
Well, there are Democratic representatives trying to get into detention centers and being turned back. I am sure there are more speaking out - but they aren't getting press coverage. Just because we don't see them in the press doesn't mean they aren't trying.
Last night, Rep. Norma Torres was interviewed on PBS New Hour. She pointed out that the building those arrested were put in had a stated capacity of 100 people. She was not allowed in to see what it was like with two or three times that many held inside. Toilets for that many?
Jeff Tiedrich showed photos of National Guard troops sleeping on warehouse floors. Called up, but not provided for.
Can you image if Harris had left the troops like that? Rs would make it the next Benghazi/laptop/‘too old’…
👆👆👆👆🎯And the corporate media doesn't want to show that, unless they can make the d's look bad for doing it!
The Democrats still haven't caught on to the fact that they are up against one of the most effective marketing teams in the world's history. The Democrat messaging game is not there at all.
Sen. Brian Schatz (Hawaii) issued a strong statement condemning Trump's response to the protests, calling it the stuff of dictatorships. Totally suppressed in MSM. Even "both sides-ism" has been 86ed by corporate media.
Now, now, that went out with Reagan.
I've always preferred "deep six" but thanks, Comey!
👆🎯
Same, Susan. Where the F are the Dems?? And guess what was front and center news in an S.F. rag yesterday I saw in my feed?
Kamala Harris dines at a hot new S.F. restaurant with a photo of her with a big, happy smile.
WITAF???
All of this shit is being MANUFACTURED!
So she isn’t allowed to travel and eat out? BTW, the Dems are too busy actually working to hold pressers non-stop. and what do you mean by things being manufactured?
Goodness, it’s not about her going out and eating, AddaG. It’s about the 𝕋𝕀𝕄𝕀ℕ𝔾 of this reporting. She was the SF District Attorney when Newsom was our Mayor back in 2002-2011.
While Newsom and Angelenos are under duress they report her eating out?Ridiculous.
The charade in LA is manufactured by Trump and Homan. The MSM is pushing the manufactured BS out of the WH to jiggle the MAGA base into another fury.
Could you tell me what “the Dems are too busy actually working” on that precludes them from holding pressers, let alone showing up, as John and Jane Q. Public are constantly being beseeched to do? Kamala Harris, or whoever is currently the putative leader of the Democratic party, should be out there in the streets of LA right now, gettin’ down and dirty with non-violent protesters. Instead she’s being shown dining at a fine restaurant. Isn’t avoiding ‘bad optics’ a big part of your playbook, Democrats? This is an example of how your apparent cluelessness is failing your constituents so badly.
I’m pissed and frustrated, sorry/not sorry.
See my comment above about Maxine Waters, Nicky. She was in the street, standing up to the Guard. As Congresscritters go, it takes an old woman, I guess. More spine than 95% of her colleagues.
JFC. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
(Well they DID tell HRC to just ‘go away”… 😒 maybe ppl need to want her back front & center…)
Hey, what restaurant? What kind of food?
I couldn’t 𝕤𝕥𝕠𝕞𝕒𝕔𝕙 reading beyond the headline, so I had to research the response for you:
Shoji. Japanese food.
Thanks, but we have Japanese food in the East Bay.
If you could see me, my head is turned sideways like a questioning pooch. I know there are fab Japanese restaurants in the East Bay. Not sure what your point is. But anyway, enjoy some sushi!
Well, I don't like sushi, and my son, who does, usually gets Japanese take out and maybe I have a piece or two vegetable tempura, preferably sweet potato.
I'm beginning to believe the Dems are constitutionally incapable of getting together to call tRump out on this. God Dammit, Dems - put someone out there who can string together rational sentences and let them speak for us.
AOC or Jasmine are the only 2 saying anything.
+ Chris Murphy, Bernie & sometimes Goldman, Pritzker…
They are good, for sure.
As a Californian, I have my issues with Newsom but I think the way he is responding to this, specifically, is spot-on. Call out the bullshit, make it clear that this a manufactured crisis by TFG and his sewer clowns. Make it clear the vast majority of the protests are peaceful, and there are always going to be a few people who take advantage of situations like this to light shit on fire, which should be condemned. Show some passion and backbone for ffs and take them on head first*.
*I realize that as a white man who is Governor of the country's largest state, Newsom is probably in a unique position to do so, but the playbook should be the same for every single elected Dem.
No, Chris Murphy has also been fighting
He went to El Salvador to free Abrego Garcia.
Another politician went too.
Yes couldn’t remember who, or I would have credited them.
It is truly pathetic!
I guess that's going to be Newsome, for now. The Dems are constantly pushing back, they just don't get any coverage from the MSM, especially Faux News.
👆👆👆🎯That's on purpose of course!
Pete Buttigieg is the smartest guy in the room. Let him speak.
I’m coming to think our side is way too polite…
something to be said for standing back and watching the repubs self-destruct...BUT it feels like being abandoned to the wolves
It is all about numbers. I'm hoping for millions of ordinary Americans getting up and going out to make their voices heard and their displeasure known.
As the maxim goes, cops can handle a protest of 10,000 persons. But they can't handle 10,000 one-person protests.
Even Klobuchar changed the subject when directly asked on the Sunday shows… switched to healthcare. Srsly tho, you’re just giving him
🎯🔥 so I get the dilemma.
I liked the whole shadow cabinet idea. But it takes an authority figure to organize it…
The House has formed one. The person who represents my district posted pics and content in her weekly email updates. They were part of a shadow committee.
It's been said the progressives are out there. However, John 'I lost my mind and can't find it' Fetterman fucking bitched about Democrats supporting violent protests. He can stick his dick in his mouth and sew his lips together permanently. That would solve that problem.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly, Fetterman is a MAJOR disappointment. I wonder if he was threatened when he went to Merdo-Loco.
Probably!
According to people who know him personally, the stroke has resulted in a massive behavior and character change.
I supported him. It was way too soon for his return to making decisions that affect all our lives. He needs to be home healing. Strokes are brutal. My mother had one sitting on my couch 6 yrs ago. My father and my sister each had one in their 30's.
Actually, I heard that too. I agree with you.
He should step down.
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
Watching with horror from Canada, and wondering if the Democrats even exist any more. Where are they? They are complicit in their silence and invisibility. What's up with that?
They’re one-half of the corporate two-party system industrial complex. Most of them are as eager to maintain their phoney-baloney jobs and remain feeding at the government money-and-power trough as Republians are. They’re politicians.
All working with the same lobbyists? Just spitballin
It’s shameful…and dangerous. :(
Chris Murphy was venting his outrage, and 86-year-old Maxine Waters was out in the street, facing the National Guard. She implored them not to shoot anyone. What a woman!
https://www.visaverge.com/news/maxine-waters-accused-of-publicity-stunt-after-ice-facility-door-slam/
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5339872-maxine-waters-criticizes-trump-national-guard-los-angeles/
Dems certainly have a messaging problem Susan!!
They're fucking up because they keep listening to and paying their useless consultants.😡😡
Good point, Charles. There was a big write-up last week or so about the Dems doing all this research about reaching the manosphere. Why not just find some testicular fortitude and get behind the working class and poor in this country?? THAT would be a message! IOW, use Bernie as their guru.
I am a life-long democrat who has a ton of respect for Adam Kinzinger. Dems should follow his advice.
Yes, Kinzinger has been a stand-up guy. What specific advice do you mean? I'm interested to know!
Of course I can’t say what advice he has for the Dems better than he says in his video
‘What do we need to do to fight back’ from May 29. I sent you the video, at least I think I did 🤔
Yep, got the video. Some really good points there. Now, if the Dems would only listen....
I’ll agree with that! They need to use a major ad agency to assist.
They should hire Tara Setmayer and Rick Wilson.
Tara! I love Tara!
Agreed Susan......Passivity is burying them. This situation was a perfect one to explain at a weekly 'presser'. But Donny is put there lying and exaggerating and no one is refuting him....except Newsome & the Mayor.
Or a democracy marinated in corporate thinking, sadly
Thank you, Susan. I’ve been railing against the Dems so hard, I’m glad you said it for me.
I really can't support the trashing of Dems on this site. It's wrong.
I agree, Arne. It’s a poor use of energy. We keep wanting a guy on a white horse to come to the rescue. We must be the crowd that does.
OK.... I'm sorry if it's trashing. I just wish Dems were more assertive and trying to get in front of people.
Buy TV time? Buy Newspaper ads? Radio time? Talk shows?
The Cult would NEVER listen to someone with a (D) behind their name.
You have to look for it. You won't see it on TV. You won't see it in corporate media outlets.
Local papers if you're lucky. Foreign press is better. The Guardian US is pretty good, BBC is often better.
They are out there, literally, every day.
It would be nice if the general population of America could hear and see what the Democrats are trying to share. There is no doubt they are struggling with their messaging but the right wing propaganda has been excellent and difficult to overcome when our corporate media wont give equal time. Like I said, maybe they buy TV time? Buy Newspaper ads? Radio time? Talk shows? Send in Pete B. He's brilliant. Or host a national town hall in prime time.
I just learned about Ground News. It uses multiple sources for its news stories and names them. It uses 'blindspots' to identify news stories that have political undertones and are disproportionately covered by media sources on one side of the political spectrum. These are only some of the features. And, no, I am not paid to promote the site🤓 Besides, Randy Rainbow endorses it, so you can't go wrong🤓
https://ground.news/
Al Jazeera is free.
Shoot. Another thing to pay for.
Tx.
Everybody wants my cookies! I will try it anyway.
Al Jazeera.
Wouldn't it be great (and very L.A.) if a whole group of drag queens did show up, in full fabulousness, with food and water for the National Guard troops? Sure, the troops don't belong here and aren't needed, but they're just as much victims of Trump/ICE performative fascism as the day laborers at Home Depot.
I like the idea of a bunch of taco trucks rolling up to feed our troops.
Great idea to feed them!! That's legal isn't it?? Protestors are NOT angry at police or National Guard...its the ahole in DC! Why aren't the Dems taking advantage of this and driving the narrative??? JFC.
Thats a fantastic idea and one I would love to see!
I just posted about taco trucks showing up to feed the National Guard kids. Adding drag queens to help would be FABULOUS!!!
It would be wonderful to see but they would be killed. So sad.
I don't think so. These are California national guardsmen.
Love this!
Best. idea. so. far, Nancy. Brilliant!
There was more destruction in Philly when the Eagles won the Super Bowl...and the Nat'l Guard was not called out...and btw, who are these hooded provocateurs attacking exactly where the cameras are pointing? Proud Boys in the employ of Himmler Miller?
Masked provocateurs did the same thing in the George Floyd protests. Some masked white guy was breaking a window when peaceful protestors intervened. He was never arrested but turned out to be a member of the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood.
The Portland protests were a microcosm of this approach. Peaceful protests all day long, but, as nighttime descended, the anarchists would arrive and begin destroying property and instigating violence. Predictably, Orange Shitler latched onto that, calling it “insane liberal radicals.” You were expecting the truth?
Anarchists? Are you sure? If they wait until it's dark, they're nazi types.
Well, it sure wasn’t “ANTIFA.”
It's funny, but Berkeley, back in the day, never had any violence at all (well, there was an 8pm curfew), and during the actual day, any violence consisted of bricks being thrown windows, primarily through Bank of America windows, which were bricked up after the first few demonstrations. Stores put plywood over their windows. Now the riots in Oakland over Oscar somebody, did feature violence in 2010, but these were largely shoe stores and looters. Berkeley never did looters. My impression has also been, if there are looters, they're not political. They're criminals.
And the cop who was slain in CA turned out to be the deed of the Boogaloo Boys
Yes! Take off your hoods and masks! Show your faces!!!
You’re so right about Philly! HAHA! My second home! ❤️🦅🦅
Of course you’re right Brooks, Trump laid blame on the left insurrectionist, when he knows exactly who’s paying the provocateurs!!
I hate being right in this...
That's exactly who they are.
Every day another step downward to hell.
I believe that Trump plans nothing. He lashes out with his lizard brain, but then he has a pretty good instinct for when he has to back down. That's why he is Generalissimo TACO. However, beating up on Hispanics in the streets of LA, means she never has to back down.
Trump has come up with his best distraction yet. Shooting rubber bullets at young Hispanics in the streets of LA. Who's gonna pay attention to the Big Ugly Bill while this is going on?
https://kathleenweber.substack.com/p/trumps-strategy-flood-the-zone-with
It seems that TACO may have galvanized the resistance in his stupidity. Protests against ICE raids are spreading to other cities. I hope they remain peaceful.
Well, you know Drumpf is just waiting for people to be killed. Then he will declare Marshall law and take over everything. That's the plan. It's only a matter of time. We have to get out in force on Saturday. If you can't march, at least drive by and honk continuously. Support democracy on Saturday morning.
Sorry for the correction, Arne, but it’s martial law
lol
You couldn't help doing that, could you? LOL.
It was done to be helpful.
I'm sure they will. Worry about those guys in uniforms with guns. Peaceful is not usually their MO.
It is pure hatred that fuels their insane desires.
Exactly Kathleen… one has to wonder what else are the real brains behind the scene up to. The Peter Thief’s of the PayPal mafia and Palantir??
That’s the whole point. Distraction from the abomination of a tax bill
Kathleen, you are spot on with your assessment.
This is Donald in a narcissistic rage because he was called Taco Donald .
“I’ll show them !” Is what he is doing.
He has never planned anything and it shows. Chaos is certainly not, as has been said, a strategy. His "strategy" is to degrade and insult, let you do the work and then fight you to not pay you. There is not one redeeming feature or quality to this disgusting human being, who is barely barely human and devoid of any of the qualities that make living worthwhile. Same for Musk. Of course they were never going to get along over the long haul doing work together. What were they thinking? Oh, yeah, that would be another lacking quality. They don't think in those terms ever.
We’re there already, Mary.
“why is the president the only person testing the limits of his power? everyone should see what they can get away with…”
- @pleasebegneiss.bsky.social
The repubs in congress are doing the opposite. They're laying down and seeing how little they can do in order to let that fucking dictator destroy America
Plus one (R-TN) just announced his resignation ‘after voting for the Bill’… distancing himself from what comes next? Beyond creepy… :/
You have to be assbolutely shameless to be a repub. This maneuver sounds just like when those liars vote against a funding bill, then show up at the public ribbon cutting/unveiling to claim credit
T H I S 👆👆👆
Yes, that’s what we Tennesseans might call Southern-Fried Fascism. Stunts like this from our “reps” are never surprising.
“If I can be a little glib: the Democratic Party leadership wants simultaneously to lead, follow, and get out of the way, and as a result have comprehensively failed to do any of them…”
- @asherelbein.bsky.social
Nailed it Sunny!!
If Newsom can be arrested because Dumbshit DonOld says running for governor is a good reason,
drumpf better worry because if the Dems ever get back into the WH and majority in Congress, he's toast
Musk was solely responsible for him not being tossed into an oubliette Doc!!
ICE Barbie just called Los Angeles a “city of criminals.” Really???
Most of us are just over here working and coping with traffic, which we were doing just fine until ICE invaded and decided to target day laborers at Home Depot. Don’t like L.A.? Then please stay out, we’re begging you.
Trump should be arrested for just being alive.
He is a waste of space, a waste of oxygen, a waste of skin.
He is SATAN’S WHORE!!!
Indeed!
Double indeed!
😂😂
No, he should be sentenced and given a jail sentence. 34 felony convictions!
😂😂😂 YES!
Just as Harris foretold what was coming. And here we are .
Huh. Whaddya know. Hillary and Kamala knew what the fuck they were talking about. A woman and a Black/Indian woman too. All those misogynist-racist fucks who JUST COULDN'T vote for either of them can go fuck themselves
It was not a free and fair election. There was fuckery, to quote Jeff.
Too few people have brought up this point, arne. It never gets any traction, unfortunately.
+Caroline Kennedy…
Arrest Gavin Newsom? Ok, because that will surely elevate Newsom's profile for election 2028. Newsom knows this too and wouldn't even get through the booking process if some jackboot thugs put bracelets on him. He was absolutely right to dare them to "just get it over with". While human, and not without missteps, Gavin Newsom remains one of the bravest politicians to have emerged in my lifetime. On this point, I will never waiver. It is because of him that my BFF was able to marry the love of his life in SF when Newsom approved of same sex marriages. A few years later, voters undermined this act. But in the end, the country rallied and same sex marriage became legal. Newsom started the ball rolling. He has my respect and loyalty for the duration.
I will never forget that Valentine's Day and those two old ladies.
1. No surprise that the National Guard was left high and dry. Donny did that to his drooling supporters multiple times.
2. Homan is cosplaying the same way Krusty Gnome does. These fuckwits are not GI Joe and Jane. Raspberry Awards all around.
It had to be intentional, Kay-El. Putting complete morons in charge of our government agencies is either an intentional act to create chaos, or, there is not one MAGAT alive with a working brain - that is not overruled by their wallet - to staff the job.
His people worked overtime to find the very worst and incompetent people to fill positions. It was so obvious.
It’s both, Walt. Being dumb as fuck about how government works and using that idiocy to create chaos.
....and not caring about any of it, of course.
I guess if you attend to those ‘details’ - food, lodging - you just look ‘weak’ as a leader? 🙄 (donny bends the rules AGAIN)
Krusty Gnome--perfect name for her!!! Your points are spot-on, Kay-El.
No one is going to deny these fucksticks are incompetent lawless jackass's, BUT the pictures of the troops sleeping on the ground is fairly "normal" for a rapid deployment - It's just that the deployment is against Americans - That's NOT normal. They carry their own water, and there is a box of MRE's sitting on the table.
Hopefully the officers leading them will remember their oath when Hegseth gives the order to fire on the protesters.
The rest of it is all batshit crazy - oh, and while trump is channeling hitler, RFK jr is cutting all17 vaccine advisors.
I heard about this yesterday. WTH 🤦♀️
If they are indeed to be kept there for 60 days, their water and MRE’s will run out, along with their patience. Hard floor to sleep on, no showers?
After a few days their officers will have taken care of all those problems. People in the military are used to sleeping on the ground and not taking showers - well maybe not the Air Force, but all the other services. I was in the Navy, and I cannot tell you how many times we went without showers and slept on the deckplates. These guys will not be doing it for very long.
This is the t administration. They don't make preparations.
Luckily, for the troops, they don't have to. local commanders do that, along with logistics personnel.
So what about those local commanders and logistics personnel? Why are those troops on the floor with no pads.
It was a "rapid deployment," that means they leave with the gear they can carry, logistics comes later. I'm willing to bet supplies are already there. I'm not sure what "pads" you're talking about, they don't get pads; but eventually they will have cots if they are there for an extended period of time. Believe it or not they train to do this, and expect to sleep wherever they can.
It's embarrassing to be alive right now.