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With this violent rhetoric, Republicans have made themselves enemies of the state. There doesn't seem to be a bottom with these primitive, savage people and the "leaders" in the GOP who advocate for hurting people. It sickens me.

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They don't care--they plan to win at all cost. They do not want to govern they want to rule--by any means necessary.

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It's beyond bad...frankly, I'm scared to death. Nazi Germany all over again.

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I am scared for Biden, and hope his security detail is on it. I am also scared for all jurors and prosecutors because of these self righteous crazies that follow Trump. There must be more that can be done. I have been making this parallel for a while, and I had someone tell me I was trivializing the events of Nazi Germany. What I am trying to do is learn from history to avoid it repeating itself.

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I agree Linda. It feels out of control. 😭

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Always a fascist movement are accompanied by violence because power is the only way to achieve their ends and violence keeps people in line. These people have given up on democracy because they are unable to achieve their goals through democracy, they just don’t give a fried fuck about other folks. Whine daily, attack daily. Remember Steve Bannon is an fanboy of Lenin, however Bannon never repeats one of Lenin’s famous quotes” end stage capitalism is fascism.”

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Indeed, most reasonable humans do not want to be enslaved and what the GOP is proposing is a form of capitalistic dictatorship where the rich can get richer and the poor are all helpless work grubs they get to order around at whim.

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21st Century slavery.

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Yep, refined and remixed.

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I believe all political movements have their dark side - this is the dark side of capitalism. All 'isms" may work in theory, but the reality is that as the old song from the Depression goes "The rich get richer and the poor get babies." It has always been thus. Capitalism works well when the wealth is spread around - that old "trickle down" - again, a great theory but when the wealthy just become wealthier, the middle class disappears. What built the middle class? SOCIALISM - combined with Democracy. It wasn't perfect, but it rewarded military service with the GI bill and rebuilt our economy. The end begins with deregulation in banking and corrupt politicians who sit in office to get rich, not as "public servants." I also don't know in our collective history if we have ever has such obvious stupidity in political office as Trump and his GQP cohorts. It seems once our standards for public service were higher. At another time MTG, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, Louie Gohmert etc would be seen as the obvious rubes that they are and laughed out of politics instead of elected and re-elected to office. Gerrymandering explains some of it, as does vote suppression, but these people are not an aberration. They represent their people. That is the scariest part.

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Well stated and accurate. Thanks for taking the time.

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Amazing quote. I hadn’t heard it before. Makes total sense.

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The R’s, all of them, are complicit in their silence. I’m guessing Mr Goetz is breaking his oath of office by inciting violence against the Constitution and the U.S. government. But only the other members of Congress, or his constituents can remove him? Coward Trump is using Matt as his mouthpiece now. Goetz is a stooge. Rotten seditionists, all of them.

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The perverted clone of Herman Munster who also sought a pardon keeps spewing his very toxic rhetoric without any consequences. His twisted partner in crime was sentenced to 11.5 years while Gaetz receives a get out jail free card. His time to face the music is long overdue inspite of his powerful father's ability to constantly get his corrupt ass out of trouble.

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Max (Empty) Headroom

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True. Better phrasing : “All R’s who remain silent are complicit h

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Maybe he could be removed if he were in jail. How do you incite violence against your government without being charged?

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Is charged in GA. "Conspiring to steal an election."

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Did not see him on the list. Can you post a link?

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In the interest of fairness, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinsinger and Asa Hutchinson are speaking truthfully. Chris Christie does ...occasionally.

So not all. Most, for sure.

It's a very short list.

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This is where they were heading every since J6... it's an orchestrated coordinated effort. They have been grooming these guys since Trump ran for office, and his Manchurian candidacy was the perfect cover for all the foul nasty stuff Republicans' wanted to get done. And he did get it done in some respects--they removed Affirmative Action and Roe v. Wade--they made Gay folks into second Class citizens, all while creating the distraction of culture wars. If they had a long game, this was it and Trump may have been an accomplice or a perfect patsy. Expect things to get worse before they get better, especially if the Democrats lose, which... losing isn't an option! We can't rely on the same old campaign strategies of the past--gloves off! Get cameras in the court t room--Trump may show off but the trade here is facts and information which he won't be able to bluster his way around! No more defense--time for offense and push back. We are fighting for the soul of the nation.

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And people wonder why I'm leaving this country. "But America is the greatest country on Earth! The land of the freeeeeeee!"

The fuck it is.

Land of the fee, home of the grave.

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As long as borders are honored this will remain YOUR country. Don’t you want to fight for your country? Don’t you want to stay and help turn this country into what our homeland was meant to be? That’s the American spirit.

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(Also I would love to know why "my country" worked me until I died from it. Six times. And then in compensation offers me less than $500 a month, making me completely incapable of living alone as long as I stay here.

That's my reward for hard work and loyalty? Fuck America then. "My" country wouldn't treat me as less than shit.)

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That’s the slide toward fascism were the money gradually finds its way into the pockets of the few and devastates the rest. But we can take it all back by banding together in solidarity, not only for our country alone, but for the simple principle of our Mother Earth providing for its people during all stages of life. We have to set it right for the good of all. If you want to go to Switzerland you can do it there. The whole world needs a rework. I’m gonna stay and fight.

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I mean the entire concept of money is dated. The last fifty years gave us the technology to share food, medicines, healthcare, internet access, clothing, transportation - essentially all necessities - globally. With the internet we can communicate neediness and GPS can get things where they need to go.

All that's needed is that the people who can provide these things do so without the expectation of turning a profit on doing so. We just have to agree to share. It's really that simple and I've been preaching it for decades, but I can only ever convince a few people at a time. Maybe if I gave the idea a snazzy name or something hashtagable.

And without money, some of the most corrupt people on the planet lose their influence and power, shifting it back to the masses so we can do things FOR THE PEOPLE - of all the world, not just the US.

But hey, what do I know, right?

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I didn’t mean physically fight. There are too many who won’t let that happen. On both sides possibly but certainly on our side. We are going to keep things cool and steady.

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Imagine how things would have turned out after the "Revolutionary Protest" 1775-1783.

Or perhaps if we'd staged "The Civil Demonstration", 1861-1865.

What a mark we'd made with the "World Expresses Deep Concern II" 1939-1945.

Listen:

When a fascist, violent enemy is attacking your democracy, maybe thoughts and prayers are better left for a later time.

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The American spirit is stealing land while raping, murdering, and enslaving. I stayed here decades trying to make it a better place. Not enough people want it to be better - or won't agree on what "better" is.

I'm a scholar in any case. If you are a bloodthirsty warrior, don't let me stop you. I'm going to Switzerland where it's peaceful. Maybe work for the UN and promote peace.

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Ok. Smooth sailing. Switzerland is lovely as can be.

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Also welcomes Americans freely. Germany is friendly too and holds lots of special interest conventions I care about. But yeah it ranks highly at everything - healthcare, economy, women's safety, women's equality. Lots of articles refer to it as a paradise as long as you can get in.

Planning to get work there where I can be reasonably certain they won't ignore my disability restrictions.

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And Nazi's and right wing fascists on the rise - with heads of state leaning far right.

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Dude, take me with yoooooou!

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Do your research. Switzerland is indeed glorious - but sour in many ways, as is Austria. Having traveled extensively for business and pleasure, better off in the Nordic countries, Ireland, Iceland, and Portugal. If not consider Barbados, Costa Rica.

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Yeah and I have Nordic ties, and I hear Switzerland can be unaccommodating if you don't learn the local language or hew too closely to the "expat bubble" but I'm intending on avoiding those pitfalls with the aid of forewarning.

If you know anything else specific I should watch for, I'd be happy to learn!

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Stand and fight.

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That would be horrible if my disability had to do with my legs, but it doesn't.

I'm a scholar. I'll leave fighting to warriors.

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Yes. If necessary, make my millennium.

My dad piloted a Martin B-26 ninety-six times from England into France to "protest" the Nazi effort to take over the world.

He was awarded two silver stars and three bronze stars with oak leaf clusters, and I'll be damned if I'll wave a white flag for these Trump-nazi wannabees, trying to be scary from their mom's basements.

I'll wager I'm not the only one, either. We'll throw a "demonstration" and they'll rue the day.

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Where are you going?

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Switzerland is the plan, with Germany as a backup if that falls through for any reason. I like a place that's been neutral 500+ years.

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Well, not really neutral. They were the Nazi's biggest money launderers. They also froze or pretended certain bank accounts didn't really exist when German Jews tried to access them to flee the coming Nazi genocide. They were Bystanders, which some would argue was the worst of all.

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Yeah, I've heard this before. *Gasp* You mean they were _war profiteering_? Just like...every single country with a military has, forever and ever?

And that's the WORST anyone can say of them.

Now, who was it that gave out pox-ridden blankets, had re-education camps to force Natives to learn the "new way" and has multiple times (including, admittedly, recently) had forced sterilisations for people who weren't white?

And that's just scratching the surface. I'd rather call myself Swiss than American any day.

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I can't say I blame you. I not very proud to be an American these days. More like horrified. Humankind in general has been acting sh*tty since we learned to walk upright at different times in different places in our human history. We haven't evolved much.

If I were an alien civilization looking at us in the old Star Trek way as in "are they worthy?" - no. No we are not.

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All talk, no action.

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I sincerely hope the Democrats are paying attention. GET YOUR MESSAGING RIGHT!

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Me too--this is why hearings that are televised are imperative--ALL of them. Without them the GOP will spin more rhetoric and ferment more violence. Let the American people SEE the evidence for themselves.

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Not since J6, but rather since Reagan and Gingrich.

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Truth.

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Well said.

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Fascist violence is terrorism. Can our government and military respond to protect our citizens and country??

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Some of the police and military folks are in on this... this is a slow moving coup.

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Good question. As long as the president (Biden) is in office, yes. If TFG is in office, he won’t protect us at all

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Yes, you are correct when you say TFG won’t protect us, more seriously he is going to come after us.Women, LGTBQ people, black and brown people, liberals, anyone who has criticized or crossed him.He is just the worst thing to ever happen to our democracy.We have to crush him@ the ballot box.

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And we will.

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Agreed!!

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I think that is the point. Republicans don't want to govern, they want to rule. They want their enemies in subjugation and to enact policies that hurt this planet and enrich themselves. Just what we need, sociopaths running this world. They are too selfish to recognize how all this hurts them as well.

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Well said 👏👏 I completely agree

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That Texas woman is the ideal MAGA stereotype. Her father reports, 'She sits on the couch all day drinking too many beers while watching (news) on television ' ,then 'gets agitated and gets on her phone'. Had a Facebook meme of a billboard saying "Welcome to Texas........... Please spay and neuter your liberal relatives". She made this call to the judge while she was out on bond for the same type of threat 1 month earlier. We have a new rival for Margie T. Greene for craziest MAGAT (female division).

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Yet I bet she blames every minority group under the sun for her problems. Typical.

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What? Did Robert start taking her meds?

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Bobert

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Totally qualified! The crazy bus can hold multitudes!

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Why aren’t people like Gaetz, Biggs and the rest of these Republican traitors being held responsible? They took part in the Trump plan to overthrow the U.S. government, so why are they free to insight violence?

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I agree.My illustrious House rep,Gym Jordan, was very involved in the orchestrating of January 6, I feel

sure.He and others need to be held accountable.They are traitors and are still representing constituents.

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John Kennedy was shot and killed a few weeks after my second child was born. The neighbors’ ten year old daughter came over laughing and clapping because Kennedy was dead. I spent the week crying, trying to understand. My beloved President was dead. Their despised politician was dead. I will say that the neighbors respected my grief, even though they couldn’t understand it.

Many times I’ve thought about Trump - even said aloud in the privacy of my home - "For gods sake, somebody just shoot him!", and then pulled myself up short. No, not really. I don’t want that. Do I? No. No. Really no.

But for gods sake someone please make him shut up!

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I just heard Michael Cohen call Giuliani *Rudy Colludey*. Brilliant. I’m stealing.

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I’m sure Michael would love that.

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I'm so sorry you had neighbors like that. I was a child in a Catholic school and there was no cheering. For years, I was puzzled as to who could have done this. Now I have no doubt. The Republican party is full of criminals. Now, I see a light. Women have been allowed into business and politics. Black women have fought and worked hard to get where they are, like Fani Willis. People with principle are now putting their foot down. No more. I see the fascist movement finally being prosecuted. This could start an avalanche now. This is the beginning of the end for what has lurked in the shadows. Trump did make America great again, in a way. He shouted out what was hidden and sneaky. I'm glad for all the long, long list of indictments. Shit is raining down on 41 people right now.

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If, on the other hand, a myocardial infarction should occur, hey, "god's will." But we know the good die young.

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No matter what, he’ll become a martyr. Mar-a-Lago will become Graceland. Trump spottings will occur. We’ll never be entirely rid of him.

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You know what? I’m sick of this bullying. Bring it the fuck on. Dems are not pussys. We know how how to fight. Burst their bubble. Just like when they lost the south the last time.

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Me too--if we don't fight back, we are doomed anyway.

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It's time to kick ass

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This, exactly.

To paraphrase The Getto Boys, "Gangsta-ass Dems don't flex nuts, 'cause gangsta-ass Dems know they got 'em."

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Some of us do😁

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After reading all the comments I get the impression a lot of us feel “we’re doomed”. By the way, I despise Matt GratesMyNerves, him and Gym top my list. But I’m an optimistic pessimist so while I’m concerned these idiot Rockys and Mugsy thugs are going to answer the war calls of Grates and Company I know they’re underestimating us. They think we’re soft and flaky. I’m not and neither are all of you. We don’t bullhorn our message so what they don’t know is we will fight right back at them. I may be liberal leaning and believe in gun control but I also have a fire arm and a Louisville Slugger. If they think a takeover will be easy as pie I’ve got a nice big slice for them. If it all comes down to that we’ll see who’s crying loudest in the end. And I don’t ever cry. Well unless the dog dies in a movie. Anyway after all my blustering you all know what I mean. I think I’ll go buy some mace today.

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I don't start fights. I finish them. Hey Gaetz! That big Frankenstein forehead is easy to square up with a Louisville Slugger.

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You are too funny. But I do believe that forehead more closely resembles Herman Munsters. IMHO.

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At least Herman laughed at things.

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Beavis and/or Butthead

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There are a lot of us who are sick and tired of being pushed around by MAGAt bullies. Do they think we're going to suck up their BS?

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The women are the strongest and fight for their brood. We will fight. The jig is up for them anyway, and they know it.

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Every GOP member is complicit, even the moderates who don’t have the nerve to speak up more forcefully save Will Hurd, Asa Hutchinson and to an extent Chris Christie. If the GOP can’t find the moral rectitude to say something is wrong when it isn’t, then they don’t deserve to serve anyone in this country. These people would have been the last volunteers for WW2. It’s disgusting in every way. They hate women, children, gays, Jews, Muslims, i migrants, transgender men and women and anyone who is different. Sounds like Nazi Germany to me.

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They're all criminals. That's why they see nothing wrong. It's just that the jig is up now

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Was that Trump standing to the left of Gaetz, nodding his head in agreement and encouragement but not doing it verbally? Sign language and body language have been in use for a long time by sports coaches. It still has power to influence people’s actions.

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Hmm. Seems this should count for a violation of Judge Chutkan's protective order on Trump.

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Yep, TFG thinks he’s too clever. He always does find another patsy, ready and willing to step up and sacrifice their own freedom to gain ‘favor’ with the big guy. Their lust for power by proxy blinds them. I understand hesitation to throw them in jail now, because the ‘persecution’ against him will set off more of these nuts to commit violently attacks. But I think the government must shut him down, duct tape his mouth and deprive him of burgers, fries and ketchup for a few days, he’ll melt down like a crying baby in an isolation cell where no one can see him sob. But I do want to see the video recording later so his followers can see him for the big baby he is. Time for comeuppance! Put a stop to the big stooge.

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There isn't any hesitation now.

The hesitation occurred in the first 18 months following 1/6, until "Windsock Garland" could ignore the political gale blowing in no longer.

Jack Smith and Fani Willis are not play-acting here.

91 felony counts in 4 cases.

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Violence is seen as liberating. Calling for violence and receiving no consequence is, I think, orgasmic. Literally. Because those who act this way are perverted. Twisted. Sick.

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They plan to take what they cannot win democratically.

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These gerrymandered Congress people seem to be above the law, which I completely do not understand. Qev and Turtle may be passive despite their titles and silent, but on the other hand no one is rushing up to defend the likes of Tuberville and Santos so one has to wonder who would defend the Congressional insurrectionists.

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What is so frustrating is that we have foreign terrorism laws but not domestic terrorism laws. From what I’ve read we can’t because of the First Amendment. But shouldn’t violent rhetoric be banned under the 1A? Yelling fire in a movie theater is. Why not threats against our own government? It’s insane.

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If the Dems are able to wrest power from these terrorists they will need to make sure they create such laws as soon as they take chair.

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It is imperative that they do.

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It is against the law. Conspiracy is part of the indictments, along with witness intimidation. The woman in Texas is in prison without bond.

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If you believe the Repubs now have no qualms about promoting violent overthrow of the government, what do you think they will do when they lose the House, grow the margin in the Senate and lose the Presidency in 2024? Can't remind people enough about stealing the Presidency in 2024, it will likely pull off. How the country reacts to Donny and the Repubs claiming they won in 2024 when it is clear they lost or verifiably cheated to win will be the next saga in this con job we have been living through for years. Question remains, when will we be done with dealing with this orange buffoon.

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I kind of think that what is going on now, post Georgia indictment, really turns off independents and even some normie republicans that would like some role models for their kids. He can't win the general. Not even close. Nobody gets Dems out to vote quite like the Trump.

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This makes sense, but Dems need to turn out like never before to make it happen. In every election, every city, every state, every county, and the general. Every one.

Especially because the enemies of success are complacency and defeatism. Many have given up.

Many others figure Drumph can't win, so it's OK to do nothing but talk or post comments.

NO!

Both are ideas which are born to lose.

Votes win elections. Those who give up have lost already.

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Totally agree. Hopefully they will recall the disasterous 3rd party candidacy of Ralph Nader, too. I don't care how old Biden is!

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Increasing the R seats the Senate is FAR from a foregone conclusion.

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They have zero chancevof winning now and they know it.

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We said that before in 2016. Remember that one?

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