I don’t either really. Cults start because people need a place to belong and one person gives them that place. I think his racist bullshit when he announced his run in 2016 felt like home to a lot of people who couldn’t be openly racist before. Beyond that, republicans are afraid of the government so they don’t want elected officials to be too intelligent.
"Afraid of the government" which builds roads and bridges, pays for your Social Security and Medicare, protects workers from toxic chemicals, sets a minimum wage, has Labor Laws to protect workers, protects our national parks, pays for all VA costs, pays for scientific research for medical problems (I know, I know -- it's all fake), protects you from theft at your ATM, and keeps a standing army (I know, I know -- you want to turn it against us), among dozens of other things.
Thanks but it wasn’t all my original thinking. I remember hearing that his supporters like him because of how awful he is, not in spite of it. It all clicked for me then.
He envies us, as do they. We're the people he wanted to join up with originally - remember his other attempts to run for president, and that he was originally a liberal Democrat. But he was rejected, and he never got over it. Trump cannot handle rejection. He never forgets it, and it's behind all that rage and lies against the Democrats. Most telling is that he publicly sympathized with Biden, saying the Democrats forced him out. He's raging against Obama too, and Hillary Clinton, because of their enduring popularity. The envy is extreme, sick and toxic. What he hates most about Kamala is that she rose politically over time, working hard. He doesn't know what it's like to work hard and succeed; everything he's ever done has been a failure.
He obviously lacks respect for others, especially those as poorly educated as him. Because his uncle taught at MIT, Trump thinks he is genetically of genius material. It is beyond troubling that they still adhere to him and even hump his leg!
They hate government because they're still in an adolescent mindset where every authority figure is hated and distrusted. What makes people still think he's an authority on the economy still mystifies me, however. Replacing taxes with tariffs? Whoa.
It's not just the government they hate. It's now also our constitution, because he's has taught them to hate it. All those rules. But what's going to happen if he gets his way and rewrites it, as is his plan? Suddenly their lives, along with ours, are going to be pure hell. Who will they blame then?
This is how cults operate. Trump repeats himself ad nauseam, not because he's just devoid of new ideas, but because repeating the same things over and over causes his listeners to absorb the messages and believe them. It's simple but very. very effective. we use it on children to teach them everything from toilet training to high school chemistry. Memorization takes place whether we want it to or not. How many of your favorite rock songs are so familiar to you that you know the lyrics and sing along? It's another example of the same principle.
That's because you have a functioning brain,social skills, parents who knew how to do things besides beat you, and a whole raft of life experiences that helped you know better.
It's not even a lack of education, per se. These people have the same education that most of us have had, but they are being brainwashed by far right wing news outlets that continually lie to them and praise Trump every day. I know plenty of highly educated people who support TRump and I can't even talk to them anymore. It's a CULT!! Plus, they're all racists, misogynists, homophobes and they hate liberals/Democrats, so that doesn't help matters...
Also, those same right-wing news orgs never, ever say anything about how bad his dementia is getting or releases the actual transcripts of his wandering word hashes that he "weaves". (what nonsense). No truth, all lies...all the time.
And they are too lazy to bother to find out what other news organizations are saying (not that the MSM exists any more -- but at least SOME parts of SOME of the corporate media tell the truth, or more like the partial truth. Boy! Is that depressing to write!)
Trump has even said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. Roy Cohn taught him that, and Roger Stone. And if anyone calls you on it, just deny, deny, deny or else claim you meant it as a joke. I see he's still telling people they won't have to vote anymore after he wins again, and he has chosen Vance to carry on as his successor after he dies. Creepy doesn't begin to describe Trump. My sense of danger here is goddamn primal.
Stephanie, help is available. Can your Dr recommend a therapist? Talking it out can be so helpful. 988 is the National Lifeline #. You can get immediate access to a trained professional. I've called a couple times over the years. They can't make the election come sooner, but they are THE BEST when you can barely reach out. It's ok to cry when talking to them. I am so proud of your support of your gay daughter. Pls give them a call
Remember the idiot boys, who threw spitballs in school, and slept through biology and had the the "You can't make me learn anything!" attitude? this is where they wound up.
Dear Stephanie, I understand how you feel. All of my close & extended family are like that except for 1 nephew & his wife. All of them, except that 1 live in Texas, where I was born & raised. I moved to NM in 1986.
I am so angry with my baby sister & the other nephew & his family, who have voted for Trump twice & apparently going to vote for him again.
I’ve tried to persuade them as to why he would be so bad for democracy, for marginalized people, for the entire world, but they won’t budge.
I’ve pretty much stopped contacting them anymore, it just kills me.
I'm sorry you're going through this horrific ordeal. My heart goes out to you... I have never hated anyone in my life the way I hate TRump. Everyday, I wish he'd have a debilitating stroke that would leave him unable to speak or move. That would be justice until he's incarcerated.
I think we are all going through some of the same things. Friends, I thought were intelligent I don't want to speak to, family that I can't understand their thinking. On a side note, being a country person, there are some weeds that are edible.
"I hate Trump with my whole heart and soul. I wish a curse would really work. I’d curse him to immortality in a windowless room, and all day and night, he’ll be talked to by every American like me. There’ll be a website to upload your 2 minute video, and they’ll be played endlessly. He can never stop it. Every tenth video will be a Putin calling him a loser. Death is too easy for him. I want him to suffer. I want him to know what it’s like." Yes. ((( hugs )))
In 2010, I lived in Houston for 6 months before I left for the middle east. Houston is a beautiful city. I loved it there except that salaries were low and unemployment was high. If I had found a decent job I would have stayed.
I have a gay daughter whose wife passed away 3 months ago. Even here in NY, in the rural areas where they lived, they were harassed and had to move. I'm talking about fake police reports, damage to their car, windows broken and having things thrown at them. This happened just last year. Trump has made it socially acceptable to hurt people. I'm worried about election day. my other daughter plans to vote in person, but I have fears about crazy MAGATs showing up with semiautomatic rifles and all their rage. I voted by mail.
*Hugs* I hear you, I live in Florida. Much love and strength to you. You are not alone, there are more of us, they have been working on this theocratic plan for fifty years. It will take time to oust the assholes.
Like I don't even understand how someone gets this...horrid. And stupid. And cruel. And a million other things.
I don’t either really. Cults start because people need a place to belong and one person gives them that place. I think his racist bullshit when he announced his run in 2016 felt like home to a lot of people who couldn’t be openly racist before. Beyond that, republicans are afraid of the government so they don’t want elected officials to be too intelligent.
"Afraid of the government" which builds roads and bridges, pays for your Social Security and Medicare, protects workers from toxic chemicals, sets a minimum wage, has Labor Laws to protect workers, protects our national parks, pays for all VA costs, pays for scientific research for medical problems (I know, I know -- it's all fake), protects you from theft at your ATM, and keeps a standing army (I know, I know -- you want to turn it against us), among dozens of other things.
Yup. The government is a terrifying thing.
"But the Blackhawk helicopters circling over your houses, come to take ALL YOUR GUNS!!"
Jeezus, I wish they WOULD take their fucking guns.
Which, coincidentally, the rich want to end, or privatize.
Excellent point Karla!
Thanks but it wasn’t all my original thinking. I remember hearing that his supporters like him because of how awful he is, not in spite of it. It all clicked for me then.
He hates the same people these losers do - the people (us) who aren't losers.
He envies us, as do they. We're the people he wanted to join up with originally - remember his other attempts to run for president, and that he was originally a liberal Democrat. But he was rejected, and he never got over it. Trump cannot handle rejection. He never forgets it, and it's behind all that rage and lies against the Democrats. Most telling is that he publicly sympathized with Biden, saying the Democrats forced him out. He's raging against Obama too, and Hillary Clinton, because of their enduring popularity. The envy is extreme, sick and toxic. What he hates most about Kamala is that she rose politically over time, working hard. He doesn't know what it's like to work hard and succeed; everything he's ever done has been a failure.
He was a registered Democrat, but he's never been a liberal.
But he did start out being pro-choice, He's probably paid for more abortions than we'll ever know.
Excellent points all, Marycat.
He obviously lacks respect for others, especially those as poorly educated as him. Because his uncle taught at MIT, Trump thinks he is genetically of genius material. It is beyond troubling that they still adhere to him and even hump his leg!
They hate government because they're still in an adolescent mindset where every authority figure is hated and distrusted. What makes people still think he's an authority on the economy still mystifies me, however. Replacing taxes with tariffs? Whoa.
It's not just the government they hate. It's now also our constitution, because he's has taught them to hate it. All those rules. But what's going to happen if he gets his way and rewrites it, as is his plan? Suddenly their lives, along with ours, are going to be pure hell. Who will they blame then?
This is how cults operate. Trump repeats himself ad nauseam, not because he's just devoid of new ideas, but because repeating the same things over and over causes his listeners to absorb the messages and believe them. It's simple but very. very effective. we use it on children to teach them everything from toilet training to high school chemistry. Memorization takes place whether we want it to or not. How many of your favorite rock songs are so familiar to you that you know the lyrics and sing along? It's another example of the same principle.
That's because you have a functioning brain,social skills, parents who knew how to do things besides beat you, and a whole raft of life experiences that helped you know better.
I'm not convinced they even have functioning brain stems.
They are continually propagandized by Faux Snooze and their fuckwit preachers.
Lack of education and acceptance in this country is a product of what once lived under a rock!
It's not even a lack of education, per se. These people have the same education that most of us have had, but they are being brainwashed by far right wing news outlets that continually lie to them and praise Trump every day. I know plenty of highly educated people who support TRump and I can't even talk to them anymore. It's a CULT!! Plus, they're all racists, misogynists, homophobes and they hate liberals/Democrats, so that doesn't help matters...
Also, those same right-wing news orgs never, ever say anything about how bad his dementia is getting or releases the actual transcripts of his wandering word hashes that he "weaves". (what nonsense). No truth, all lies...all the time.
Constant brainwashing by Fox and right wing nutjob media. They’ve been lied to for forty years.
Exactly.
And they are too lazy to bother to find out what other news organizations are saying (not that the MSM exists any more -- but at least SOME parts of SOME of the corporate media tell the truth, or more like the partial truth. Boy! Is that depressing to write!)
Trump has even said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. Roy Cohn taught him that, and Roger Stone. And if anyone calls you on it, just deny, deny, deny or else claim you meant it as a joke. I see he's still telling people they won't have to vote anymore after he wins again, and he has chosen Vance to carry on as his successor after he dies. Creepy doesn't begin to describe Trump. My sense of danger here is goddamn primal.
Hitler and Goebbels said that long before then.
Stephanie, help is available. Can your Dr recommend a therapist? Talking it out can be so helpful. 988 is the National Lifeline #. You can get immediate access to a trained professional. I've called a couple times over the years. They can't make the election come sooner, but they are THE BEST when you can barely reach out. It's ok to cry when talking to them. I am so proud of your support of your gay daughter. Pls give them a call
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https://988lifeline.org/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=onebox
Thank you for the info.👍
I cant fuckin stand seeing people explain why they are voting for trump on TV. Fuck them. There is no reason except they are racist cunts
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Remember the idiot boys, who threw spitballs in school, and slept through biology and had the the "You can't make me learn anything!" attitude? this is where they wound up.
Dear Stephanie, I understand how you feel. All of my close & extended family are like that except for 1 nephew & his wife. All of them, except that 1 live in Texas, where I was born & raised. I moved to NM in 1986.
I am so angry with my baby sister & the other nephew & his family, who have voted for Trump twice & apparently going to vote for him again.
I’ve tried to persuade them as to why he would be so bad for democracy, for marginalized people, for the entire world, but they won’t budge.
I’ve pretty much stopped contacting them anymore, it just kills me.
I'm sorry you're going through this horrific ordeal. My heart goes out to you... I have never hated anyone in my life the way I hate TRump. Everyday, I wish he'd have a debilitating stroke that would leave him unable to speak or move. That would be justice until he's incarcerated.
I think we are all going through some of the same things. Friends, I thought were intelligent I don't want to speak to, family that I can't understand their thinking. On a side note, being a country person, there are some weeds that are edible.
Given the amount of pesticides used everywhere, it can't be healthy.
I second every word of your wish for his punishment, exactly.
1000% agreement from me.
"I hate Trump with my whole heart and soul. I wish a curse would really work. I’d curse him to immortality in a windowless room, and all day and night, he’ll be talked to by every American like me. There’ll be a website to upload your 2 minute video, and they’ll be played endlessly. He can never stop it. Every tenth video will be a Putin calling him a loser. Death is too easy for him. I want him to suffer. I want him to know what it’s like." Yes. ((( hugs )))
In 2010, I lived in Houston for 6 months before I left for the middle east. Houston is a beautiful city. I loved it there except that salaries were low and unemployment was high. If I had found a decent job I would have stayed.
I have a gay daughter whose wife passed away 3 months ago. Even here in NY, in the rural areas where they lived, they were harassed and had to move. I'm talking about fake police reports, damage to their car, windows broken and having things thrown at them. This happened just last year. Trump has made it socially acceptable to hurt people. I'm worried about election day. my other daughter plans to vote in person, but I have fears about crazy MAGATs showing up with semiautomatic rifles and all their rage. I voted by mail.
"Trump has made it socially acceptable to hurt people" -- exactly as Hitler did. No difference.
*Hugs* I hear you, I live in Florida. Much love and strength to you. You are not alone, there are more of us, they have been working on this theocratic plan for fifty years. It will take time to oust the assholes.