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Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

Agree 100% about impeachment. Vance is decades younger, and apparently in thrall to Peter Thiel. Also he's a lousy writer. (As an editor and a writer myself, I take that personally.)

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George in Atlanta's avatar

Vance will be eaten by wolves.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

I still say the Tiger-mom Amy Chua (his college mentor) wrote it for him. What University student has time to write a book? And the similarity of the titles ("the Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mom", and "Hillbilly Elegy") led me to this conclusion.

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

Did not know that. She said some crazy shit. That poor child of hers.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

I know, right? I am theorizing that based on the titles similarity, and that she had In my opinion a cougarish kind of relationship with him, even picking out his girl friend for him. He was going to dump her and take a job in another state, and she told him not to go and to keep Usha.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3270715/how-tiger-mum-amy-chua-helped-boost-trump-vp-pick-jd-vance-superstardom

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

How creepy.

I knew a woman subjected to that tiger mom shit at an early age. She was a musical prodigy, forced to endure the Yamaha method in Japan, which destroyed her natural creativity. She never got over the abuse. She died of drug and alcohol abuse at 48.

At her memorial, her mom let me know how embarrassed her own daughter's death made her. Fuck.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Abusive moms are universal. Like the children sacrificed to the child-beaty pageants because the mom always wanted to be a contestant. Or the stage-moms in the acting business.

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Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

I hadn't heard that theory, and I know next to nothing about Amy Chua, but as to "what University student has time to write a book" -- over the decades I've known and/or known about university students who had time to organize movements, start and run businesses (didn't Zuckerberg launch the proto-Facebook platform while at Harvard), hold down full-time jobs, etc. In some cases, they had someone else at least assist with the coursework.

How similar are the titles really?? "Hymn" and "Elegy" are both musical genres, but "elegy" is much more common in literary works, especially poetry. I'd bet good money that Chua had Julia Ward Howe in mind when she choose her "Battle Hymn" title, but other than that . . . Elegies are generally about sorrow or loss. "Battle Hymn" suggests anything but.

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