Unfortunately, Trumpers are not all stupid, uneducated people. I was an educator for 25 years in Texas and worked with some highly educated people, mostly women. And yet they still remain very loyal republicans who support Trump and all those other assholes. I lost a lot of friends due to this. I seriously don’t understand how they’re so…
Unfortunately, Trumpers are not all stupid, uneducated people. I was an educator for 25 years in Texas and worked with some highly educated people, mostly women. And yet they still remain very loyal republicans who support Trump and all those other assholes. I lost a lot of friends due to this. I seriously don’t understand how they’re so blinded. Oh, and most of them are staunch “christians”. Go figure 🤔
I too have lost family and friends to Chump and MAGA. I had a friend since the 70s who became a born again Christian. Our last conversation almost two years ago she said she was sorry I'd lost my faith in God. I told her I didn't lose my faith in God, I lost faith in people who call themselves Christian but support Donald Trump.
Maybe their core values just suck. Deep down, they are not good people. Hitler's cadre of loyal officials were also not all stupid, uneducated people -- actually the opposite. Organized sadists, killers at heart who had found their iron Messiah, not just "misled."
And don't forget the Nazis were just common criminals also,they pillaged Europe's capitals for gold,silver, artworks,etc,and Hitler was obsessed with seizing religious artifacts.
It is wonderful! Each display room has a different theme, the urns tables and other pieces are done in Malachite, some in jasper, some in gold leaf, the throne rooms are magnificent. I wish I could post a few pictures. The Amber room is at the Katherine Palce, in Pushkin which is in a nearby town. Easily done on a tour of Saint Petersberg and make sure to go during the “White Nights festival” as it is light out until the wee hours of the morning.
This is true of those who profited from Hitlers regime, problem is no one would profit much from tRumps other then the top, his cult would get screwed over and not know it till it was to late.
When I said to one of them that Trump and Project 2025 want to do away with the Dept. of Education, she told me that was fake news. Obviously, they ARE lemmings 😡
Can the bitch read? Destroying the Dept. of Ed and other agencies is written plainly right there in the Project 2025 manifesto. The documentary on YouTube by Molly Jong-Fast details these proposed horrors.
As another commenter said, Vance, unlike trump, isn't fundamentally 'stupid' (I hate that word, but...), but the characteristic they BOTH share is sociopathy - the lack of a conscience which leads to the inability to feel guilt or shame as most people tend to. That's why they and their ilk in politics can lie at will.
The thought process of those MAGAs who are educated and "should know better" remains opaque to me. But I am convinced that for these types, it does indicate a serious pathology in their personalities and personal convictions. Latent racism, self-righteous religiosity, and greed to me are all necessarily major components in some combination to being in the MAGA cult.
For all MAGAs, regardless of the level of intelligence or education, the issue isn't the ability to think / reason (or the nature of their thought process); the issue is that their psychological damage (1) makes them want to harm others, because they're so full of pain and rage from having been hurt by their dysfunctional family of origin, and (2) makes them unable to accept verifiable reality, which is often painful and requires people to process feelings, which they can't do.
I'm not forgiving any MAGAs anytime soon,we need 2 functioning political parties,both with the goals of serving the interests of the American people,and the people who voted for them,not themselves. That's not Republicans,and that's not MAGAs.
I think because all their lives they have been reared and brainwashed to follow their obviously conservative parents lead on political / racial upbringings and ideology...
and (I guess) they feel Trump is the one for them. I dont get it either.
Fun Fact : I was hired by an A/V company to run stage teleprompter in Houston, Tx back in 2019 for the Texas Education Association convention at the George R Brown convention center.
Then presidential candidate Kamala Harris was there and spoke as did Bernie Sanders and other democratic candidates including Beto O'Rourke. The spirit there was democrat as was the president of the TEA who did not hide that fact but I did notice a small group of teachers in the crowd who were Trumpers and felt they were not represented well at the TEA convention. But all in all, I'd say 80% of teachers are democrat as a whole. There are a LOT of small (red) towns in Texas and in the southlands and the teachers there would be really hard pressed not to support Trump...But I still dont get why they do. They are teachers after all...how could they support a crook, felon, rapist, colluder, and treasonous, illiterate person like Trump...like WTF
ProPublica posted the training videos of P2025 on YouTube as of Sunday, 8/11. I reposted links to a few on my substack. You can search ProPublica and the new p2025 videos come up first. I. Was. Horrified.
Who am I kidding! I’m still horrified. The first training video is about how and what they identify as conservative and conservatism. It starts out fairly innocuous and then quickly goes downhill. I ended up watching in bits of 10-15 minutes at a time because I had to process what they were actually saying. There is one, and I shit you not, entitled “Leftwing Code Words and Language.” Nothing says I’m so confident in my political position and policy platform that I can’t defend it unless I demonise those I disagree with. Btw, that is some secret club we lefties are members of! The videos remind me of the Goebbels documents where he outlines how to make propaganda. The fact that they are not hiding, at all, the end goal of this tangerine fever dream is as disturbing as it sounds. I don’t believe for a second that it’s been “shelved.” 😱😨😱😨😱😨😱
I didnt know that... wow...that needs to be spoken of on MSNBC or something... and it's really scary that some teachers may STILL endorse TFG even knowing about P2025's intentions.. they will claim it's a hoax.
Your post is probably the best explanation of religion that I have read. The problem is that many of them (not all) want to cram their beliefs down our throats to the extent that they want laws passed to go along with their beliefs. I don't understand why they aren't content with what they believe in. The excuse is always that religion tells you to "spread the word". I think that's a cop out for wanting to control others. I don't know about other countries, but this one has bent itself into a pretzel to accommodate those with certain beliefs. Didn't want to get the vaccine even those it was mandated by your employer - use your religion as an excuse. Don't want to shave your beard in a profession that uses gas masks and N-95 masks? Use your religion as the reason why you don't have to comply with the rules as the rest of us do. My thinking on that is if your religion is the reason you don't have to follow certain rules set by your employer/profession, then why don't I start my own church and make up rules for things I don't want to do either. I'm tired of my employer forcing me to wear a certain color of scrubs at work (yes, this goes on all the time). It's not enough that I am wearing scrubs, it has to be a certain color. I guess my patient care is better in royal blue than in navy. I'll just join the church of whatever and say my religion won't let me wear royal blue. As far as I'm concerned there is no difference. My favorite story is one of an EVS worker at my old job. She drove management to drink about their rules. They told all their employees that they were switching uniforms and what they had to wear. The uniforms weren't flattering unless you were thin and there were buttons. She was blonde/blue and could have passed for German or northern Europe. She told them she was Amish. Don't ask me how she knew that conservative Amish do not wear buttons. She's not originally from Amish areas. What were they going to say? It's her culture and religious beliefs so they thought. They probably knew she made it up, but they couldn't say anything. EVS didn't get button uniforms. I thought it was brilliant and she forever will be my hero against stupid rules and micromanaging in the workplace. You can tell I'm a lifelong antagonist against being forced to do things that aren't important just because someone wants to micromanage me. This is probably why I have a hard time understanding how you live your life being dictated to by your religion even if it's not in your best interest.
This country has to end the privilege of the made-up world of religion. Some christians are shocked that people can go along with Mormonism, but don’t apply the same questioning to their own beliefs. Who the hell would see the opinion of men from thousands of years ago valid today? Just want to use the reasonable, humane parts? Fine. But then you’re not following so much of the insane parts of the bible, Torah etc!
Seems to me Christians are perpetually in fear of Sky Daddy's wrath,and perceived persecution because some gotten eaten by lions 2,000 years ago,(get over it already😂),the MAGAs are the same way, they're a perfect match.
Some historians have stated they weren't sent to the lions because they were christians, but because they were vandals, against other worshippers, and harming people who worshipped differently from them.
I have read that it was because they were atheists. They didn’t believe in the Roman pantheon and undermined Roman authority. Sound familiar? The “I don’t believe in your gods, but you must believe in mine “ rules for me, not for thee “. Take your pick. Not applying the same logic to their own superstitious beliefs. As far as I am concerned, that’s an automatic fail. To make it worse, the gymnastics that they have to contort their brains into is just embarrassing.
I wouldn’t doubt that at all, because that’s certainly how the so-called Christians of today are behaving; as if they have the right to destroy things, including our govt, if we refuse to follow their religious rules.
So, “Christian investors” want to make an end run around EVERYONE ELSE and just tell businesses to stop providing the abortion pill. Christian investors? Huh?
Unfortunately, Trumpers are not all stupid, uneducated people. I was an educator for 25 years in Texas and worked with some highly educated people, mostly women. And yet they still remain very loyal republicans who support Trump and all those other assholes. I lost a lot of friends due to this. I seriously don’t understand how they’re so blinded. Oh, and most of them are staunch “christians”. Go figure 🤔
I too have lost family and friends to Chump and MAGA. I had a friend since the 70s who became a born again Christian. Our last conversation almost two years ago she said she was sorry I'd lost my faith in God. I told her I didn't lose my faith in God, I lost faith in people who call themselves Christian but support Donald Trump.
Maybe their core values just suck. Deep down, they are not good people. Hitler's cadre of loyal officials were also not all stupid, uneducated people -- actually the opposite. Organized sadists, killers at heart who had found their iron Messiah, not just "misled."
And don't forget the Nazis were just common criminals also,they pillaged Europe's capitals for gold,silver, artworks,etc,and Hitler was obsessed with seizing religious artifacts.
And a great deal of it is still unaccounted for.(Amber Room,etc.)
I saw the replica, it is stunning.
The Hermitage is on my bucket list.
It is wonderful! Each display room has a different theme, the urns tables and other pieces are done in Malachite, some in jasper, some in gold leaf, the throne rooms are magnificent. I wish I could post a few pictures. The Amber room is at the Katherine Palce, in Pushkin which is in a nearby town. Easily done on a tour of Saint Petersberg and make sure to go during the “White Nights festival” as it is light out until the wee hours of the morning.
This is true of those who profited from Hitlers regime, problem is no one would profit much from tRumps other then the top, his cult would get screwed over and not know it till it was to late.
They have to do whatever their tribe does - no matter that it isn’t in their own best interest. Essentially, they are lemmings.
When I said to one of them that Trump and Project 2025 want to do away with the Dept. of Education, she told me that was fake news. Obviously, they ARE lemmings 😡
Can the bitch read? Destroying the Dept. of Ed and other agencies is written plainly right there in the Project 2025 manifesto. The documentary on YouTube by Molly Jong-Fast details these proposed horrors.
Sheeple.
(to Michelle's comment) : 'Educated' and stupid are two different things. One can be both, depending on the 'education' courses pursued.
NEVER confuse education with intelligence.
JD for example.
As another commenter said, Vance, unlike trump, isn't fundamentally 'stupid' (I hate that word, but...), but the characteristic they BOTH share is sociopathy - the lack of a conscience which leads to the inability to feel guilt or shame as most people tend to. That's why they and their ilk in politics can lie at will.
Education without character is useless.
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No, JD is bright. His brain is elastic and sophisticated, such that he can absorb and then use complex material.
I don't like him and I don't respect him, but accuracy matters. Thanks.
The thought process of those MAGAs who are educated and "should know better" remains opaque to me. But I am convinced that for these types, it does indicate a serious pathology in their personalities and personal convictions. Latent racism, self-righteous religiosity, and greed to me are all necessarily major components in some combination to being in the MAGA cult.
For all MAGAs, regardless of the level of intelligence or education, the issue isn't the ability to think / reason (or the nature of their thought process); the issue is that their psychological damage (1) makes them want to harm others, because they're so full of pain and rage from having been hurt by their dysfunctional family of origin, and (2) makes them unable to accept verifiable reality, which is often painful and requires people to process feelings, which they can't do.
I agree. I love all my relatives and I am never cutting off any of them, even if some are MAGA.
🎯Greed is good, or in their case, god.
I'll always believe it's a cult.
I'm not forgiving any MAGAs anytime soon,we need 2 functioning political parties,both with the goals of serving the interests of the American people,and the people who voted for them,not themselves. That's not Republicans,and that's not MAGAs.
I think because all their lives they have been reared and brainwashed to follow their obviously conservative parents lead on political / racial upbringings and ideology...
and (I guess) they feel Trump is the one for them. I dont get it either.
Fun Fact : I was hired by an A/V company to run stage teleprompter in Houston, Tx back in 2019 for the Texas Education Association convention at the George R Brown convention center.
Then presidential candidate Kamala Harris was there and spoke as did Bernie Sanders and other democratic candidates including Beto O'Rourke. The spirit there was democrat as was the president of the TEA who did not hide that fact but I did notice a small group of teachers in the crowd who were Trumpers and felt they were not represented well at the TEA convention. But all in all, I'd say 80% of teachers are democrat as a whole. There are a LOT of small (red) towns in Texas and in the southlands and the teachers there would be really hard pressed not to support Trump...But I still dont get why they do. They are teachers after all...how could they support a crook, felon, rapist, colluder, and treasonous, illiterate person like Trump...like WTF
Organized Religion is a helluva disease.
ProPublica posted the training videos of P2025 on YouTube as of Sunday, 8/11. I reposted links to a few on my substack. You can search ProPublica and the new p2025 videos come up first. I. Was. Horrified.
Who am I kidding! I’m still horrified. The first training video is about how and what they identify as conservative and conservatism. It starts out fairly innocuous and then quickly goes downhill. I ended up watching in bits of 10-15 minutes at a time because I had to process what they were actually saying. There is one, and I shit you not, entitled “Leftwing Code Words and Language.” Nothing says I’m so confident in my political position and policy platform that I can’t defend it unless I demonise those I disagree with. Btw, that is some secret club we lefties are members of! The videos remind me of the Goebbels documents where he outlines how to make propaganda. The fact that they are not hiding, at all, the end goal of this tangerine fever dream is as disturbing as it sounds. I don’t believe for a second that it’s been “shelved.” 😱😨😱😨😱😨😱
I didnt know that... wow...that needs to be spoken of on MSNBC or something... and it's really scary that some teachers may STILL endorse TFG even knowing about P2025's intentions.. they will claim it's a hoax.
INTERNALIZED MISOGYNY
INTERNALIZED RACISM TOO
Your post is probably the best explanation of religion that I have read. The problem is that many of them (not all) want to cram their beliefs down our throats to the extent that they want laws passed to go along with their beliefs. I don't understand why they aren't content with what they believe in. The excuse is always that religion tells you to "spread the word". I think that's a cop out for wanting to control others. I don't know about other countries, but this one has bent itself into a pretzel to accommodate those with certain beliefs. Didn't want to get the vaccine even those it was mandated by your employer - use your religion as an excuse. Don't want to shave your beard in a profession that uses gas masks and N-95 masks? Use your religion as the reason why you don't have to comply with the rules as the rest of us do. My thinking on that is if your religion is the reason you don't have to follow certain rules set by your employer/profession, then why don't I start my own church and make up rules for things I don't want to do either. I'm tired of my employer forcing me to wear a certain color of scrubs at work (yes, this goes on all the time). It's not enough that I am wearing scrubs, it has to be a certain color. I guess my patient care is better in royal blue than in navy. I'll just join the church of whatever and say my religion won't let me wear royal blue. As far as I'm concerned there is no difference. My favorite story is one of an EVS worker at my old job. She drove management to drink about their rules. They told all their employees that they were switching uniforms and what they had to wear. The uniforms weren't flattering unless you were thin and there were buttons. She was blonde/blue and could have passed for German or northern Europe. She told them she was Amish. Don't ask me how she knew that conservative Amish do not wear buttons. She's not originally from Amish areas. What were they going to say? It's her culture and religious beliefs so they thought. They probably knew she made it up, but they couldn't say anything. EVS didn't get button uniforms. I thought it was brilliant and she forever will be my hero against stupid rules and micromanaging in the workplace. You can tell I'm a lifelong antagonist against being forced to do things that aren't important just because someone wants to micromanage me. This is probably why I have a hard time understanding how you live your life being dictated to by your religion even if it's not in your best interest.
This country has to end the privilege of the made-up world of religion. Some christians are shocked that people can go along with Mormonism, but don’t apply the same questioning to their own beliefs. Who the hell would see the opinion of men from thousands of years ago valid today? Just want to use the reasonable, humane parts? Fine. But then you’re not following so much of the insane parts of the bible, Torah etc!
Seems to me Christians are perpetually in fear of Sky Daddy's wrath,and perceived persecution because some gotten eaten by lions 2,000 years ago,(get over it already😂),the MAGAs are the same way, they're a perfect match.
Some historians have stated they weren't sent to the lions because they were christians, but because they were vandals, against other worshippers, and harming people who worshipped differently from them.
I have read that it was because they were atheists. They didn’t believe in the Roman pantheon and undermined Roman authority. Sound familiar? The “I don’t believe in your gods, but you must believe in mine “ rules for me, not for thee “. Take your pick. Not applying the same logic to their own superstitious beliefs. As far as I am concerned, that’s an automatic fail. To make it worse, the gymnastics that they have to contort their brains into is just embarrassing.
I wouldn’t doubt that at all, because that’s certainly how the so-called Christians of today are behaving; as if they have the right to destroy things, including our govt, if we refuse to follow their religious rules.
A most relevant point!
I sometimes get their fairy tales mixed up, there are so many,still trying to figure out how they fleeing from dinosaurs.
"The excuse is always that religion tells you to "spread the word". I think that's a cop out for wanting to control others." 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
It is.
Well you know what I always say...sitting in a church doesn't make you a Christian any more than sitting in a garage makes you a Cadillac.
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I agree with you. Thanks for your post.
I love this. I joined The Satanic Temple about 2 yrs ago, after Roe fell, & send my tithes once in a while. 😊
Otherwise she'd be rumored to be a witch.Religion kills.
Nailed it. If you are credulous, then you are credulous in all situations.
https://l.smartnews.com/p-RXAop/0T8l7D
So, “Christian investors” want to make an end run around EVERYONE ELSE and just tell businesses to stop providing the abortion pill. Christian investors? Huh?
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