I'm a Christian and I'm incensed whenever I hear MAGA refer to him as a "good Christian". Putting (waves arms) all of this aside, the primary aspect of a Christian is humility before God and acknowledging that we are sinners in need of forgiveness and grace. Does any of that describe the Orange One at all?! When he openly said that he's …
I'm a Christian and I'm incensed whenever I hear MAGA refer to him as a "good Christian". Putting (waves arms) all of this aside, the primary aspect of a Christian is humility before God and acknowledging that we are sinners in need of forgiveness and grace. Does any of that describe the Orange One at all?! When he openly said that he's never asked for forgiveness because he's never done anything that needed forgiving, it should have been game over for Christians. Then again, evangelicals are not and never have been Christians.
Hey, not all evangelicals -- who are Christians, btw -- are Trump supporters. Some of my relatives who are Pentecostal despise Trump, and some who are southern Baptists do, too. Although I agree that far too many evangelicals support Trump.
Any evangelical who worships serial philandering adulterous abortion buying felonious grifter like the 4 Times Indicted Rapist Drumpf gave up any and all claims to being "christian" a long time ago.
And the complaint that Jesus was too "WOKE" is a sure sign that if you don't believe in Jesus, then you are not a Christian, in fact, most are the Antichrist! Those White Power Movement militia do not have a Jesus following bone in their bodies.
Well, it’s good to hear that the one many of them talk about as if he is in fact the New Messiah, hasn’t invaded the souls of all of you. I recently read Tim Alberta’s book: The Kingdom, The Power, & The Glory Tim is an Evangelical journalist who’s Dad was a minister & he says there are some ministers out there trying to bring their flocks back to putting Jesus & their personal salvation ahead of politics & idol. Worship
Trump's claim to be Christian is strictly a political calculation.
He was decidedly pro-choice until he saw the Democrats wouldn't have him, then he became pro-life. Nothing more than a craven need for acceptance and power.
As long as they don't try to Bible-thump me, I'm absolutely fine with them. It's when they start spewing their garbage, acting like they're better than others, that just makes me want to puke. I'll never understand that belief in something you don't see, hear, or touch, but that's their thing. I will just never get it...
EXACTLY. I'm an atheist and have shed buckets of tears over what I'm witnessing happening at our border to people just trying to find a better life for themselves and their kids. It's truly disgusting. If people are really so-called Christians, there would/should be widespread outrage and a call for an END to these despicable actions of state government officials and their lackeys. It's sickening.🤬
Why "sin" in the first place? And what, exactly, constitutes a "sin"? Having to ask for forgiveness all the time for your "sins" SHOULD, eventually, make you a better person, not one that just keeps "sinning", knowing you'll be forgiven. Right ?!? Maybe your diety will forgive you, but those you've harmed may not. I'm not a Christian and I definitely don't expect anyone to forgive me if I do something to them that I shouldn't do. Here's a thought, just don't harm others! Just don't cheat, lie, steal, kill or anything else that is harmful to anyone or anything. It's really that simple. I just live my life with the intent of NOT doing things that harm others or cause them pain and misery. It's nothing but an excuse for people to do bad things to others when all they have to do is ask their God for forgiveness. It's a crutch. It's extremely frustrating for those of us who live our lives doing the right thing and don't live with the expectation of forgiveness, to watch criminals get the benefit of the doubt because they believe that they'll be forgiven for their egregious actions. It's disturbing.
Many sociopaths pretend to be Christian as a cover for their selfish and unethical actions. It’s really that simple. Actual, Bible believing Christians tend towards gullibility, and are easy prey for the sociopaths. Those who follow Christ’s teachings are commanded to forgive, thus providing a steady stream of victims. It’s grotesque. Witnessing the steady rise of the ‘Moral Majority’ - those craven, greedy, nosy hypocrites - pretty much turned this former southern Baptist into an atheist.
That path describes me to a T except that I was raised in the Lutheran religion, which is of course kissing cousins to Catholicism. The hypocrisy & meanness in way too many Christians turned me off…..plus science 🙂
I am no longer a Christian, but it seems to me that Matthew 25:40-45 sums up the very basics of Christian faith.
“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
“Then he will say, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
(I think standing around watching when a mother and her 2 children drown in the Rio Grande would apply here too.)
“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
When I read what our evil, vile governor and AG has done to migrants--especially after they caused the deaths of the mother and her two children--I keep going back to Matthew 25. It is a basic tenet of our faith to welcome the stranger and care for the poor, yet these craven monsters completely discard that basic tenet.
Kindness toward every living being is a tenet of all major religions, and is a matter of basic human decency. Why have so many people missed that memo? What benefit are these people getting from all of their hate? Trump has people believing that if they don't benefit financially or otherwise from something, they're chumps for doing it. Here is another recent example. https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2024/01/23/south-milwaukee-woman-dies-of-hypothermia-at-bus-stop-after-fall/72324496007/ Someone actually stepped over this woman and just left her there.
I'm a Christian and I'm incensed whenever I hear MAGA refer to him as a "good Christian". Putting (waves arms) all of this aside, the primary aspect of a Christian is humility before God and acknowledging that we are sinners in need of forgiveness and grace. Does any of that describe the Orange One at all?! When he openly said that he's never asked for forgiveness because he's never done anything that needed forgiving, it should have been game over for Christians. Then again, evangelicals are not and never have been Christians.
You nailed it re: evangelicals. They made their Faustian bargain. In the end, that bargain comes due. They are a PAC, not Christians.
Hey, not all evangelicals -- who are Christians, btw -- are Trump supporters. Some of my relatives who are Pentecostal despise Trump, and some who are southern Baptists do, too. Although I agree that far too many evangelicals support Trump.
Any evangelical who worships serial philandering adulterous abortion buying felonious grifter like the 4 Times Indicted Rapist Drumpf gave up any and all claims to being "christian" a long time ago.
And the complaint that Jesus was too "WOKE" is a sure sign that if you don't believe in Jesus, then you are not a Christian, in fact, most are the Antichrist! Those White Power Movement militia do not have a Jesus following bone in their bodies.
I am not religious but I was raised Southern Baptist. One thing is certain: Jesus would have despised Trump and chased him out of the temple.
Well, it’s good to hear that the one many of them talk about as if he is in fact the New Messiah, hasn’t invaded the souls of all of you. I recently read Tim Alberta’s book: The Kingdom, The Power, & The Glory Tim is an Evangelical journalist who’s Dad was a minister & he says there are some ministers out there trying to bring their flocks back to putting Jesus & their personal salvation ahead of politics & idol. Worship
He is excellent to listen to.
They're a CULT. Let's just say it like it is.
Trump's claim to be Christian is strictly a political calculation.
He was decidedly pro-choice until he saw the Democrats wouldn't have him, then he became pro-life. Nothing more than a craven need for acceptance and power.
I’m a big fat noisy atheist, and even I admit a true Christian is a blessing to this world
As long as they don't try to Bible-thump me, I'm absolutely fine with them. It's when they start spewing their garbage, acting like they're better than others, that just makes me want to puke. I'll never understand that belief in something you don't see, hear, or touch, but that's their thing. I will just never get it...
I hate to say this to a Christian.
But I think they sold their souls already.
The silence over Abbott's actions in Texas says it all.
EXACTLY. I'm an atheist and have shed buckets of tears over what I'm witnessing happening at our border to people just trying to find a better life for themselves and their kids. It's truly disgusting. If people are really so-called Christians, there would/should be widespread outrage and a call for an END to these despicable actions of state government officials and their lackeys. It's sickening.🤬
Agreed
Why "sin" in the first place? And what, exactly, constitutes a "sin"? Having to ask for forgiveness all the time for your "sins" SHOULD, eventually, make you a better person, not one that just keeps "sinning", knowing you'll be forgiven. Right ?!? Maybe your diety will forgive you, but those you've harmed may not. I'm not a Christian and I definitely don't expect anyone to forgive me if I do something to them that I shouldn't do. Here's a thought, just don't harm others! Just don't cheat, lie, steal, kill or anything else that is harmful to anyone or anything. It's really that simple. I just live my life with the intent of NOT doing things that harm others or cause them pain and misery. It's nothing but an excuse for people to do bad things to others when all they have to do is ask their God for forgiveness. It's a crutch. It's extremely frustrating for those of us who live our lives doing the right thing and don't live with the expectation of forgiveness, to watch criminals get the benefit of the doubt because they believe that they'll be forgiven for their egregious actions. It's disturbing.
Many sociopaths pretend to be Christian as a cover for their selfish and unethical actions. It’s really that simple. Actual, Bible believing Christians tend towards gullibility, and are easy prey for the sociopaths. Those who follow Christ’s teachings are commanded to forgive, thus providing a steady stream of victims. It’s grotesque. Witnessing the steady rise of the ‘Moral Majority’ - those craven, greedy, nosy hypocrites - pretty much turned this former southern Baptist into an atheist.
Welcome to the tribe!☺️
That path describes me to a T except that I was raised in the Lutheran religion, which is of course kissing cousins to Catholicism. The hypocrisy & meanness in way too many Christians turned me off…..plus science 🙂
Very well put - thank you!
I am no longer a Christian, but it seems to me that Matthew 25:40-45 sums up the very basics of Christian faith.
“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
“Then he will say, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
(I think standing around watching when a mother and her 2 children drown in the Rio Grande would apply here too.)
“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
When I read what our evil, vile governor and AG has done to migrants--especially after they caused the deaths of the mother and her two children--I keep going back to Matthew 25. It is a basic tenet of our faith to welcome the stranger and care for the poor, yet these craven monsters completely discard that basic tenet.
Kindness toward every living being is a tenet of all major religions, and is a matter of basic human decency. Why have so many people missed that memo? What benefit are these people getting from all of their hate? Trump has people believing that if they don't benefit financially or otherwise from something, they're chumps for doing it. Here is another recent example. https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2024/01/23/south-milwaukee-woman-dies-of-hypothermia-at-bus-stop-after-fall/72324496007/ Someone actually stepped over this woman and just left her there.
OMG 😳 how horrible