When they showed us the films of Dachau, long ago in Sunday School, we all told ourselves we'd give our lives to stop it. Now all we need to do is... everything we can. Thanks, Jeff.
Do people recognize and understand that the multi-racial people of Israel and Jewish people in Israel and around the world hate Netanyahu, another evil slimebag? The Jewish people are not a ‘cult’ and can’t be lumped into anti-Semitic tropes by a brain dead megalomaniacal orange filth bomb. When this shitty hatred towards Jews comes out of her father’s mouth, I can’t help wondering what, no integrity, Ivanka and her grifter husband are thinking. I guess the bottom line is that every one of these criminals only care about themselves and are fine being connected to one of the worst slimebags on the planet. Their only interest is in creating more hate, more chaos, more death and destruction. But their hatred towards Jews and the major danger they pose once again must be writ large and not allowed to dissipate into the void of their daily hateful rhetoric.
I think non Jews are of the mindset we're all the same. We're not! We are quite varied in beliefs, traditions & whether we worship or not. Our DNA determines if we are a Jew but our actions or lack thereof are what differentiates us being Jewish. I'm a Jew but I do not follow any of the laws, holidays or Sabbath. And most of us are of the Diaspora meaning we have little to no direct relation to Israel & are disgusted & horrified at Bibi. .Jared & Miller are to Jews what Candace Owens & the guy in NC running for Gov are to Black people. Align with your enemies to be accepted.
BEING JEWISH IS A RELIGIOUS CONNOTATION. I'M IRISH AND FROM IRELAND. DNA WOULD PROVE YOUR ARE FROM ANCIENT TRIBES OF ISREAL. THEY ARE SEPERATE ENTITIES. ONE IS NATIONALITY AND ONE IS RELIGION.
I did a DNA test thru Family Tree, which specializes in Jewish ancestry. They go thru the mitochondrial (mother's) DNA & trace the path your ancestors took. Like 60% of us I'm from the original 4 sisters which means I have over 80,000 cousins worldwide that have had their DNA done, too. When the results came in I was described genetically as 100% Jewish Diaspora. I'm not a geneticist so I can't answer. And I'm not at all Israeli. We started in Kazakhstan. And you don't need to use all caps.
Read R. Maddow’s book Prequel. It talks about the run up to WW II and how popular the fascists were. Also how much Feeman cash and operatives influenced politics/politicians/popular culture. It is chilling. If you replace “Germany” with “Russia” you have our current situation.
I hadn't read it since college -- and of course I didn't have quite the same context as I do now. At the time, I thought it was interesting but a little quaint (like Animal Farm, maybe even Fahrenheit 451). It was the 70s, Ford and Carter weren't Nixon, and Fascism was literally history.
But now that we're faced with actual fascism again (words I could never have imagined writing in the 70s), when I ran across the audiobook last year I picked it up. Grover Gardner was the reader; he has this sort of humorous, avuncular tone that can sound a little quaint -- perfect for the newspaper editor-narrator. And the first bit of the book was just what I remembered.
But the longer I listened, the more disquieting and relevant it was. Lewis published this three years before the Nazis had their big rally at Madison Square Garden -- he saw what was going on and where it could lead earlier than most.
He also wrote extensively about feminism and racism. In my lit classes, he wasn't ignored; he was simply dismissed as less important than writers like Faulkner and Hemingway. But not only was Lewis the first American awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature -- he was arguably more influential than any of the literary greats. He held up a mirror so we could see who we were, and who we might become.
I imagine it's less than 30%, as at least 20% of the population either doesn't engage in politics even at the minimal point of casting a ballot. But how unspeakably depressing is this fascist nonsense, the anti-science idiocy?
I've been to Dachau and the hair on the back of my neck was at attention the entire time I was there. I was heartened to see groups of German school kids there being taught the truth about what their country did to its own citizens and others.
When I visited Dachau many years ago I cried the entire time I was walking through it. I could literally feel the souls of those "exterminated" (Nazi lingo) and the fear they must have felt.😢
I have been to Yad Vashem 4 times and have come away unable to speak all 4 times. I remember the very first time I was there, I saw the outdoor sculptures and one in particular is seered in my memory. Here is a link to pictures of some of them: https://www.tracesofwar.com/sights/106915/Sculpture-Park-Yad-Vashem.htm
My sunday school was not particularly vocal on the evils of Fascism -- it was a fundamentalist denomination (which also claimed it was not anything like a denomination) and had a kind of skewed idea of what evil was. They also required us to do a lot of random Bible reading but they weren't very big on explanations... like when I was 6 and wanted to know what a "foreskin" was. I really didn't understand why they were so horrified... I mean, it WAS in the Bible...
I learned about the Holocaust the way I learned about most important stuff: read a book about it, then asked my dad, then read more books about it. Probably should have read Cynthia Ozick's short story "The Shawl" earlier than I did -- would have known what I needed to know a lot faster.
Thanks, but I can't take too much credit -- my dad did a lot of that for me. He was already quietly rejecting Creationism when I was in grade school, and I don't think he ever voted for another Republican after Eisenhower. He had advanced degrees in philosophy and linguistics, so he had a larger view of the world than anyone else I knew -- and he answered my questions rationally, without all the crap I heard elsewhere. (Still miss him, dammit.)
As I’ve written either here or somewhere else, I saw the pictures that were taken by the liberators of the camps in Saturday Evening Post and Life Mags. I was maybe 9 or 10 years old but will never ever forget those pictures or the cut lines under them. The stories of the survivors were horrifying. I would hate to think what our soldiers were feeling as they had to walk through and see the horror there.
Donny Brokohantas and the Trump TURD REICH are IMPLODING. Any real America will not be voting for Atgolf Twitler. The MAGA TRASH who are Trump Dead Enders will be embarrassments to their families and descendants and lopped off the family tree. Been to Dachau - it is amazing how quickly society can slip if you give these people an inch. Zero Quarter - that is what they will get.
So wonderful to see that some of the red hats are finally starting to wise up to the art of the steal and say fuck off to the demented grifting blob of worthlessness. This is where he can be hurt the most and continue his downward slide closer to being officially broke. Between the bullshit with the family controlled, tapped out RNC and some of the gazillionaires who have had enough of seeing their money getting pissed away for a lost cause and legal fees, you can only wonder what he'll do next to keep his fat ass and twisted campaign afloat.
Yeah, the past few years have been a real lesson in how democracy can be subverted for fun and profit. Also told us how many practicing Republicans preferred fascism to democracy and used the lesson as vocational training.
Awesome: "To quote Animal House’s Dean Wormer, 'broke, unpopular and demented is no way to go through life, son.”' RE: that tiny violin is getting quite a workout these days. Better have a backup violin ready. Good work finding that Nazi camp story! Who knew that his first victims were his white political enemies?
I'm glad to know that it appears realization of what a second King Fuckface the First Administration could bring is FINALLY getting through to people. The election this year is between democracy and fascism. Liz Cheney's point of the country being able to survive what she believes may be 'bad policies' but not "being able to survive a President who torches the Constitution' is something EVERY voter should take to heart.
You know what's scary, when I read the comments of various publications (for ex. newsweek), they call Liz Cheney a RINO (but usually spelled rhino lol) 😳! That's how extreme and stupid these a'hole MAGAts are...
Here in Arizona, Haley got 18.7%, Biden 89.7 and Trump 79.7. And that doesn’t count independents who are about a third of the electorate and don’t vote in the “presidential preference”. Probably they’re not Trump leaners….
Don’t forget our top 3 state offices are democrats, our two largest cities, Phoenix and Tucson, have democratic mayors, Mesa has a republican mayor who supported Mark Kelly in the senate election … etc etc etc
This was in the paper today too in the form of a banner across the top of the Arizona Republic: "Is Arizona GOP's Contraception Plan Really "Aspirin Between Your Knees"?" The GOP is fucked.
Good luck with all that. The governor will veto any nonsense they come up with. Heck, the former GOP Governor didn’t do Trump any favors , nor did the Republican sec of state and AG
True. I just read a headline that more democrats dropped out of running for the state legislation today, and others prior to that-very bad and I don't understand why?! So disappointing.
I will donate to Gallegos. It w/b a nightmare if Kari Lake won. I'm so thankful for AZ changing. But still much more to do-like how the F do we rid ourselves of Gosar and Biggs and the other house horrors?
Jeff, OT…the other day the Orange Blob lectured Jews on how to be Jews. Excuse me, but I never want to hear this garbage from a non Jew ex prez. or anyone.. seems these folks are very comfortable spouting this nonsense and I expect it to get worse. Always recall little Ann Coulter calling Jews “unperfected Christians”.. Fuck em.. Thanks for allowing me to rant my friend.
Donnie Two Scoops is a parasite--he latches on to everything and everyone, sucks them dry and tosses them over his shoulder. Screechweasal Alina Habba is about to find out the hard way as Karma grabs her by the nape of the neck and hopefully drags her to jail. Trump is destroying the GOP. They deserve it.
yeah, boo fucking hoo! Took them long enough, but the GQP is finally beginning to realize that everything Trump touches also bleeds cash like a motherfucker before it dies.
Oh, this made me laugh like Ming the Merciless. You’re in rare form today, but isn’t it all such a horror circus? “Severe case of closed-wallet-itis” haw haw haw, pitiful Trump, it is a delight to watch your anguish!
So, Billingsgate was a marketplace in London renown for the swearing of the wholesale produce vendors, and the obsolete word ‘billingsgate” means the process of tearing some a new one, as, say, Susie Essman dies when confronting that bald asshole and swan killer Larry David. Could Mr Jeff have worked at Billingsgate in a past life?
When they showed us the films of Dachau, long ago in Sunday School, we all told ourselves we'd give our lives to stop it. Now all we need to do is... everything we can. Thanks, Jeff.
I have the same memory as you. Seems so long ago.
Do people recognize and understand that the multi-racial people of Israel and Jewish people in Israel and around the world hate Netanyahu, another evil slimebag? The Jewish people are not a ‘cult’ and can’t be lumped into anti-Semitic tropes by a brain dead megalomaniacal orange filth bomb. When this shitty hatred towards Jews comes out of her father’s mouth, I can’t help wondering what, no integrity, Ivanka and her grifter husband are thinking. I guess the bottom line is that every one of these criminals only care about themselves and are fine being connected to one of the worst slimebags on the planet. Their only interest is in creating more hate, more chaos, more death and destruction. But their hatred towards Jews and the major danger they pose once again must be writ large and not allowed to dissipate into the void of their daily hateful rhetoric.
Excellent point about trumps son in law and converted daughter.
“ Their only interest is in creating more hate, more chaos, more death and destruction.” I would add “making money for themselves” to your list.
I'd actually make that the top thing -- money is the point; hate, chaos, death, destruction are delicious gravy.
I think non Jews are of the mindset we're all the same. We're not! We are quite varied in beliefs, traditions & whether we worship or not. Our DNA determines if we are a Jew but our actions or lack thereof are what differentiates us being Jewish. I'm a Jew but I do not follow any of the laws, holidays or Sabbath. And most of us are of the Diaspora meaning we have little to no direct relation to Israel & are disgusted & horrified at Bibi. .Jared & Miller are to Jews what Candace Owens & the guy in NC running for Gov are to Black people. Align with your enemies to be accepted.
HOW DOES DNA DETERMINE YOYR A JEW? ITS A RELIGION RIGHT?
Yep. The Ancestry or 23andMe testing can help identify if someone is genetically Jewish. See wiki for more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
NO IT CAN DTERMINE WHICH TRIBE OF ISREAL YOUR ANCESTORS ARE FROM. JEWISH IS A RELIGION DESIGNATION NOT A NATIONALITY. TECHNICALLY YOUR AN ISREALI.
BEING JEWISH IS A RELIGIOUS CONNOTATION. I'M IRISH AND FROM IRELAND. DNA WOULD PROVE YOUR ARE FROM ANCIENT TRIBES OF ISREAL. THEY ARE SEPERATE ENTITIES. ONE IS NATIONALITY AND ONE IS RELIGION.
Ashkenai, Mizrahi and Sephardic
I did a DNA test thru Family Tree, which specializes in Jewish ancestry. They go thru the mitochondrial (mother's) DNA & trace the path your ancestors took. Like 60% of us I'm from the original 4 sisters which means I have over 80,000 cousins worldwide that have had their DNA done, too. When the results came in I was described genetically as 100% Jewish Diaspora. I'm not a geneticist so I can't answer. And I'm not at all Israeli. We started in Kazakhstan. And you don't need to use all caps.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSULT ONE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TAALKING ABOUT.DO YOU REMEMBER THE TRIBES OF ISREAL WHERE ALL JEWS CAME FROM.
She learned from the best, remember? She is still Daddy’s little girl.
That’s back when Americans knew their history & 30% of the country wasn’t actually rooting for fascism
Read R. Maddow’s book Prequel. It talks about the run up to WW II and how popular the fascists were. Also how much Feeman cash and operatives influenced politics/politicians/popular culture. It is chilling. If you replace “Germany” with “Russia” you have our current situation.
I listened to her podcast, which was basically the book. She is a national treasure
It’s an important book. Many, many historical parallels to the cult of Trump today
There's a reason Sinclair Lewis wrote It Can't Happen Here in 1935...
I never thought of it that way. Tho I read the book long ago when I was was young and idealistic.
I hadn't read it since college -- and of course I didn't have quite the same context as I do now. At the time, I thought it was interesting but a little quaint (like Animal Farm, maybe even Fahrenheit 451). It was the 70s, Ford and Carter weren't Nixon, and Fascism was literally history.
But now that we're faced with actual fascism again (words I could never have imagined writing in the 70s), when I ran across the audiobook last year I picked it up. Grover Gardner was the reader; he has this sort of humorous, avuncular tone that can sound a little quaint -- perfect for the newspaper editor-narrator. And the first bit of the book was just what I remembered.
But the longer I listened, the more disquieting and relevant it was. Lewis published this three years before the Nazis had their big rally at Madison Square Garden -- he saw what was going on and where it could lead earlier than most.
He also wrote extensively about feminism and racism. In my lit classes, he wasn't ignored; he was simply dismissed as less important than writers like Faulkner and Hemingway. But not only was Lewis the first American awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature -- he was arguably more influential than any of the literary greats. He held up a mirror so we could see who we were, and who we might become.
I imagine it's less than 30%, as at least 20% of the population either doesn't engage in politics even at the minimal point of casting a ballot. But how unspeakably depressing is this fascist nonsense, the anti-science idiocy?
I've been to Dachau and the hair on the back of my neck was at attention the entire time I was there. I was heartened to see groups of German school kids there being taught the truth about what their country did to its own citizens and others.
When I visited Dachau many years ago I cried the entire time I was walking through it. I could literally feel the souls of those "exterminated" (Nazi lingo) and the fear they must have felt.😢
I welled up too, walking into a crematorium was the worst, but felt I had to. Not for the faint of heart.
I would add that if a trip to Germany isn’t feasible but a trip to Washington, DC is, be sure to experience the Holocaust Museum.
Been there and to the one in Jerusalem, Yad Vashem.
I have been to Yad Vashem 4 times and have come away unable to speak all 4 times. I remember the very first time I was there, I saw the outdoor sculptures and one in particular is seered in my memory. Here is a link to pictures of some of them: https://www.tracesofwar.com/sights/106915/Sculpture-Park-Yad-Vashem.htm
Megan, I had the same experience going thru Anne Frank House. I had to leave because I was so distraught.
My sunday school was not particularly vocal on the evils of Fascism -- it was a fundamentalist denomination (which also claimed it was not anything like a denomination) and had a kind of skewed idea of what evil was. They also required us to do a lot of random Bible reading but they weren't very big on explanations... like when I was 6 and wanted to know what a "foreskin" was. I really didn't understand why they were so horrified... I mean, it WAS in the Bible...
I learned about the Holocaust the way I learned about most important stuff: read a book about it, then asked my dad, then read more books about it. Probably should have read Cynthia Ozick's short story "The Shawl" earlier than I did -- would have known what I needed to know a lot faster.
Well, at least you emerged from your chrysalis. You made the effort, I'm sure it was challenging. Well-done.
Thanks, but I can't take too much credit -- my dad did a lot of that for me. He was already quietly rejecting Creationism when I was in grade school, and I don't think he ever voted for another Republican after Eisenhower. He had advanced degrees in philosophy and linguistics, so he had a larger view of the world than anyone else I knew -- and he answered my questions rationally, without all the crap I heard elsewhere. (Still miss him, dammit.)
May his memory be a blessing.
I think the actual quote from Animal House is fat, Adderall addicted and orange is no way to go through life.
I’ve been to Dachau, no desire to see another or become an inmate.
Me too. It is a stop on the S-Bahn from Munich, and it is a world away. So sobering. I was depressed for days after, but I was glad I made the trek
Yep, that’s what we did.
As I’ve written either here or somewhere else, I saw the pictures that were taken by the liberators of the camps in Saturday Evening Post and Life Mags. I was maybe 9 or 10 years old but will never ever forget those pictures or the cut lines under them. The stories of the survivors were horrifying. I would hate to think what our soldiers were feeling as they had to walk through and see the horror there.
Utterly flabbergasted, horrified, beyond comprehension etc. Some have told their stories.
I was 5 when one of the camps was liberated, I saw a photo on the front page of the newspaper, and I had nightmares about it for many years.
My father helped liberate the camps, as a young GI. What he saw was so awful he had a nervous breakdown.
I have no doubt, it was horrific! Just the one photo I saw was terrible, the people looked like skeletons.
My parents took me there when I was 10 years old. It was traumatic experience for me
I can imagine. I was a young adult and I was traumatized even though I’d read extensively about the camps.
I was in my 40's when I went to Dachau and it traumatized me. I can't imagine seeing that horrific place as a child...
Donny Brokohantas and the Trump TURD REICH are IMPLODING. Any real America will not be voting for Atgolf Twitler. The MAGA TRASH who are Trump Dead Enders will be embarrassments to their families and descendants and lopped off the family tree. Been to Dachau - it is amazing how quickly society can slip if you give these people an inch. Zero Quarter - that is what they will get.
So wonderful to see that some of the red hats are finally starting to wise up to the art of the steal and say fuck off to the demented grifting blob of worthlessness. This is where he can be hurt the most and continue his downward slide closer to being officially broke. Between the bullshit with the family controlled, tapped out RNC and some of the gazillionaires who have had enough of seeing their money getting pissed away for a lost cause and legal fees, you can only wonder what he'll do next to keep his fat ass and twisted campaign afloat.
"turd reich"...that is awesome, and I will be using THAT in my arsenal going forward, thank you!
I always wondered in history class how the Germans fell to fascism. Unfortunately, now I know
Yeah, the past few years have been a real lesson in how democracy can be subverted for fun and profit. Also told us how many practicing Republicans preferred fascism to democracy and used the lesson as vocational training.
🏆🏆🏆🏆
Awesome: "To quote Animal House’s Dean Wormer, 'broke, unpopular and demented is no way to go through life, son.”' RE: that tiny violin is getting quite a workout these days. Better have a backup violin ready. Good work finding that Nazi camp story! Who knew that his first victims were his white political enemies?
credit goes to Ruth Ben-Ghiat, who featured that AP clipping in a post on threads — a post for which I very unprofessionally did not save the link
Otherwise you are perfect right Jeff?? LOL We love ya though!
And MAGAs are all on board with that which is disturbing to say the least.
This is great news as long as it doesn't lead to complacency. Overconfidence is not healthy here. I will remain vigilant.
I'm glad to know that it appears realization of what a second King Fuckface the First Administration could bring is FINALLY getting through to people. The election this year is between democracy and fascism. Liz Cheney's point of the country being able to survive what she believes may be 'bad policies' but not "being able to survive a President who torches the Constitution' is something EVERY voter should take to heart.
You know what's scary, when I read the comments of various publications (for ex. newsweek), they call Liz Cheney a RINO (but usually spelled rhino lol) 😳! That's how extreme and stupid these a'hole MAGAts are...
Same! I’ll be writing letters to voters through Vote Forward, as I have done every year since diaperstain hit the scene. https://votefwd.org/
I just signed up to get their newsletters. Thanks for sharing the link.
I just signed up too, thanks.
It certainly has in the past, as 2016 showed us. I don’t think it will this time. Eight years of hearing the Trumpet blast is a great catalyst.
Here in Arizona, Haley got 18.7%, Biden 89.7 and Trump 79.7. And that doesn’t count independents who are about a third of the electorate and don’t vote in the “presidential preference”. Probably they’re not Trump leaners….
Don’t forget our top 3 state offices are democrats, our two largest cities, Phoenix and Tucson, have democratic mayors, Mesa has a republican mayor who supported Mark Kelly in the senate election … etc etc etc
Ah, but that 10.3 percent represents trouble for Biden! It must be true, because it was in the newspaper!
This was in the paper today too in the form of a banner across the top of the Arizona Republic: "Is Arizona GOP's Contraception Plan Really "Aspirin Between Your Knees"?" The GOP is fucked.
Wow! They went after the issue, that awesome 👏🏼
Good for them!!
Banner across the top of the Arizona Republic today: "Is Arizona GOP's Contraception Plan Really "Aspirin Between Your Knees"?"
Straight outta the 1950's
Ah, but your state legislature is Republican & who knows what they will do to overturn the results of 2024
Good luck with all that. The governor will veto any nonsense they come up with. Heck, the former GOP Governor didn’t do Trump any favors , nor did the Republican sec of state and AG
True. I just read a headline that more democrats dropped out of running for the state legislation today, and others prior to that-very bad and I don't understand why?! So disappointing.
Yes, this.
I will donate to Gallegos. It w/b a nightmare if Kari Lake won. I'm so thankful for AZ changing. But still much more to do-like how the F do we rid ourselves of Gosar and Biggs and the other house horrors?
I wish I knew!
I donated yesterday from California to Ruben.
Already did
Done. He got some $$ last week.
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Jeff, OT…the other day the Orange Blob lectured Jews on how to be Jews. Excuse me, but I never want to hear this garbage from a non Jew ex prez. or anyone.. seems these folks are very comfortable spouting this nonsense and I expect it to get worse. Always recall little Ann Coulter calling Jews “unperfected Christians”.. Fuck em.. Thanks for allowing me to rant my friend.
Seriously, it’s one thing when Rumpo thinks he’s a Red Caesar, but now he thinks he’s a rabbi?
Donnie Two Scoops is a parasite--he latches on to everything and everyone, sucks them dry and tosses them over his shoulder. Screechweasal Alina Habba is about to find out the hard way as Karma grabs her by the nape of the neck and hopefully drags her to jail. Trump is destroying the GOP. They deserve it.
yeah, boo fucking hoo! Took them long enough, but the GQP is finally beginning to realize that everything Trump touches also bleeds cash like a motherfucker before it dies.
Damn, I had to look twice to make sure your post wasn't a late addition from Mr. Tiedrich! Classic
thank you -- quite a compliment!
😂
Exactly this!!!
Jeff, you are the first person I turn to every morning. I wear that smile the rest of the day!!
Ditto!
Same.
Yes, same here, well done Jeff! 👏
Oh, this made me laugh like Ming the Merciless. You’re in rare form today, but isn’t it all such a horror circus? “Severe case of closed-wallet-itis” haw haw haw, pitiful Trump, it is a delight to watch your anguish!
Jeff has SUCH a way with words-doesn’t he?!!!!!!!!!🤭🤭🤣🤣
So, Billingsgate was a marketplace in London renown for the swearing of the wholesale produce vendors, and the obsolete word ‘billingsgate” means the process of tearing some a new one, as, say, Susie Essman dies when confronting that bald asshole and swan killer Larry David. Could Mr Jeff have worked at Billingsgate in a past life?
if Trump wore glasses, I would have definitely called him a "four-eyed fuck" by now
Well, you can call him a fat fuck, as Susie calls her good and faithful husband.
I know that I have been calling him a fat fuck since 2016 in every reference I can safely inject it into.