props to Ms. Spouse, who, when I told her that I was going to end today's piece with a clip of Morning Joe melting down, responded with "no, that's your lead story."
that's the kind of input I'd been sorely lacking during her seven-week convalescence
And she was right. I don't pay attention to MSNBC, and Moanin' Joe is an example of why - too much hypocrisy. In fact, when that fat orange fuckstick returns, I may do what I did when Bush started beating the Iraq war drums, and read only foreign news.
I do not pay attention to it, or watch television news unless there is a blizzard. Even then I have a hard time finding info and often give up in frustration. I do watch tv news in other countries though. Especially since I mostly live abroad.
Good for Ms Spouse, although the piece would have been a strong start or conclusion. And seriously, after watching Joe and Mika pontificate through the past four years about the moral hazards of a second Trump coming, how could they be surprised by the audience reaction. Such servile cowardice. I could watch Fox and Friends for that.
Absolutely agree with Ms. Spouse! This was a great read this morning..as usual! I can’t get over at what a huge fucken cry baby Joe is and Mika just sits there. Goodbye morning Joe!
WTF Jeff…. No mention of a dinner with Mel for 1M the night before the installation. Talk about a grift… aren’t they supposed to be billionaires? ⚠️🤮⚠️🤮
He’s always on rants and I used to religiously watch the show until I gave up all TV news programs but I did watch him after Jan. 6 that was a doozy. I thought he’d get fired he went so far. Of course I thought he’d get fired when years ago him and Mika argued so bad when she said he was a little chauvinistic, his head blew off and they were both sent home and the show was cut short.
What the fuck kind of "read" can you get of a man who is the human equivalent of one of those puffy board books for 2-year-olds? Go fuck yourself, Joe.
Seriously, he was president for 4 years and has spent the last 4 years constantly in the public eye. If you haven't got the "read" of him by now, you're a fucking idiot.
Who the hell HASN'T gotten the "read" of the elderly golfer? The problem is that a large % of the people of this idiot country liked the "read" of this rapist, felon, idiot, dementia-addled, misogynist, racist creep.
Let's not focus on that, but on the fact that the first of Trump's goals has been reached before he's even returned to office - that he has managed to utterly intimidate the most visible people in the media.
Right-o. You gotta be a fucking moron… no, a goddamn fucking moron if you haven’t already figured out what he’s about! He’s been screaming from the rooftops for years now.
Anyone who hasn’t read any of the multiple books about Trump, or the plethora of articles about Trumps birthright into the Genovese crime family, orhasn’t bothered to ask why he bows so fucking low to dictators, especially Putin! Has been criminally investigated since the 70’s, coupled with his 4 years of corrupt and criminal behavior as president is truly peerless in vacuous idiocy!!
What more do we possibly need to know? The demented diaper load doesn't know his fat ass from a hole in the ground. It's also very obvious that the best people he continues to surround himself with are just as dangerous, moronic and fucked up as he is. One of the very real reads is that the demented orange turd never reads shit about anything.
I thought his first term picks for his admin were bad. Holy shit, these nominees are over the top ridiculous. They will completely fuck up the country, our people, our alliances, the environment, the whole world. They must not be allowed access to power and influence!
I think most of us got a "read of the man" when he mocked the disabled journalist. Or did mocking the Gold Star parents come first? Or did he pose with Jeffrey Epstein first? (It's all a vomitous blur to me now.) He's as easy to read as a fucking STOP sign.
The MAGAts have been whining about "cancel culture" for years. Now they're *really* gonna see what cancel culture looks like!
Skangirl, so right! Mocking a disabled person pre-2016 election was a shocking, disgraceful 5 alarm fire alarm. Fuck anyone who needed more of a "read" than that.
Ironically, the only *good* thing accomplished under his watch was Operation Warp Speed to develop a covid vaccine--and his MAGAts booed and jeered when he tried to brag about it. So he stopped.
Even *then* he could have saved lives by promoting the vaccine. A billboard with him giving a thumbs up to the vaccine would've been a good place to start. But noooooo.
That’s exactly why and then ppl, judges, Supreme Court, Aileen Cannon, Merrick Garland, and an ongoing list of ass kissing chicken shits did everything they could to help the criminal get off the hook!!
And after the brave intelligence gathering outing to Mar-a-Lago by the Morning Jokers, all for the benefit of their viewing public, they came back with nothing.
Yeah, I saw a one on one interview with only her on YouTube after they had gone to mira lardo and she spent the majority of the time promoting her organization. I came away with the same feeling that she doesn’t really know her value. It was actually sad to watch. I used to watch Morning Joe a long time ago (before she married Joe) and there is a difference in her. IMHO
The issue isn't whether Donny Dumbass is stupid - that's a given. It's whether evil people should be treated as though they are legitimate persons with anything worthwhile to say. There is nothing for Joe to "read" about Trump. We're seeing the same conniving shit we saw 9 years ago, only worse, and attempts to cover a planned dictatorship by filling the regime with inept and incompetent yes-men.
Mika lost my respect before they married. He with his nonstop bluster, interrupting people, sucking all the air out of convos. I hope their ratings TANK.
He’s got mental issues obviously! Anyone that has to be heard and seen at everyone’s expense feels not so good inside that over sized dome with 2 itty bitty eyes trying everything he can to be HEARD!!!
It is not as if his nature is concealed in any way. It has been on very public display for half a century. And even if people outside of New York and Atlantic City who did not watch reality TV might not have paid much attention to him until he ran for President, we have had a decade of him being shoved in our faces relentlessly. We all know what he is already, and if you don't, Joe, then you are too fucking stupid for me to be interested in listening to your opinions.
He liked that phrase so much he repeated it several times, just so we'd understand what the hell he was talking about... repetitious nonsense is still nonsense. Meanwhile, he's been getting a read on his ratings numbers.
Morning Joe will soon be serving a cup of it at a local diner near you. This country and its media continue their downward spiral. It’s a revolution in slow motion… losing viewers and readers, shooting overpaid CEOs….The only place to get honest information is Substack. I’m grateful for Jeff and this community.
It's really something, isn't it, Susan: substacks have become one of the rare sources of news that we can trust. I have 15 writers whose work I follow on substacks. Meanwhile, I no longer read the NYT or the WaPo, nor do I watch CNN (haven't for years) and am only rarely watching MSNBC. In years past, it would have been unthinkable to me that all of the major sources of news information in the United States could be taken over so quickly and so thoroughly.
Greed consumed an ignorant society with meetings of six Uber wealthy individuals on Jekyll Island in 1910, where the money trust birthed the Federal Reserve Susan!!
With early signs of the coming shit storm, reading intelligent folks point out what was really going on behind the scenes the last 50 years, "the revolution" should have begun in the '70's or '80's. The way the obscene wealth grab from our former middle class to all the wealthy people ... how can that be reversed? It would take literally millions of us in the streets, all kind of violence. We can only hope dcon & co-horts are distracted with backstabbing, circular firing squads (maga on maga), and chaos. So a hundred million dollar co. CEO has been murdered. I better stop here.🚌🚌🚌🚌🚌🚌🚌
Mind-blowing, isn't it... The muskrat has been talking about buying out CNN. He later, apparently "jokingly", talked about doing the same to MSNBC. I've asked the question: who owns these companies? who has the power to sell out? No responses yet.
I’m done with it all too, KD, and I never felt better. Including MSNBC. I would miss Lawrence O’Donnell but when I think of it I just check in on his show on Netflix. As for Joe and Mika it’s really embarrassing to watch them publicly grovel. They have so much money they could walk away with dignity. They’re just not smart and creative enough to find a better way. No tears to be shed here!
Joe and Mika’s dignity went to Hell back in 2015 when they were letting trmp call into their show. That was when I found counting my socks more enlightening than Morning Joe.
Same here, I’ve never watched them for however long they’ve been on the air, but tuned in for a few minutes a few weeks before the election just to see what everyone else was watching. The way Joe interrupts her, & everyone else too, & talks over her when she does manage to try to speak, is just sickening. I couldn’t stand it.
This could have been my post. EXACTLY the same. We can look up histories of people and decide ourselves if they are honest and experienced. Heather Cox Richardson is a good example. And of curse Uncle Jeff.
(My system auto spelled out “curse” instead of “course”. I left it because … you know!).
I shuddered when Bill Clinton signed the new Telecommunications Act, the birth of FAUX NOISE, the beating drum of shilling for the insanely ignorant Tea Party and GOP had their mouthpiece!
Mark, Sometimes Jeff's community identifies our predicament so perfectly and concisely, I wish THESE were the headlines across our leading news publications. You have executed the most perfect assessment of "What happended" November 5th. Thank you.
George Santayana said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Unfortunately we’re living among a fuck ton of people marinating in their own ignorance
We cannot expect one person to know all of what’s at hand. That’s what a cabinet is for. And more more, the vp. But orange guy thinks he knows everything. Including how best to apply his orange face mask. Loving the 1” margins around his hairline (or what’s left of his hairline).
Joe's real problem is he was one of the republicans that helped pave the way for trump; has tried to "make up for it," but never really did. Now he's returning to his republican roots - lecturing democrats on what they are doing wrong, and why everything he does is right.
Being born in 56” under Ike’s administration was my first and only time trusting a repugnantkin because first of all I was a friggen baby and secondly Ike was about as apolitical as a human being could possibly get! He was a five star General of the U.S. Army when they took being non partisan seriously having sworn their oath to the constitution and the people! The repugnants basically drafted him into their ranks and knew a sure winner when they seen one ☝️! Since my tender years under the Eisenhower presidency I knew that my toddlers instincts were absolutely correct about not trusting the lowlife bastards as far as I could throw up on them ! Only once did I even come close to considering a vote for a repugnant that was for John McCain but even then I couldn’t do it ! Not all the Dems I’ve voted for over the past 50 years have made me shiver and shake but not one of them came as close to being a moron traitor rapist thief con artist as our future leader is ! How the fuck did this country allow this shit to happen !
You are more generous than I about our parents generation. There were people who gave a shit about others. They were called Democrats and were the outsiders.
“Evening News Wally…” brilliant! Jesus H. Christ on a Crankshaft….I need to keep a Jesus Christ -fill in the blank-on your vocab! Love it! And Joe/Mika-tough shit on your “fee-fees getting hurt!”. Typical media bullshit that was! And am SO GLAD that the “deportation countries” are telling trumpy to fuck off! Whew…calm down now. :)
Kristy, Mika's "Know Your Value" women's program is BULLLSHIT! I've emailed/tweeted many times over the years - she's out in "her place" daily by her narcissistic partner, interrupted, talked over. She sits there silently. JFC
...Jesus H. Christ on a crankshaft, Joe — defensive much?...my personal fav today Jeff.
I'm glad I checked out of the MSM.
Today's post is one of your best!
The only way I can continue to wake up as I see that apparently the orange mousolini has signed the transition paperwork it seems this is really fuckin happening.
Thanks to you, Meidas, Harry L, Heather and Joyce, I'm staying the course. You all Rock.
As Timothy Snyder says.. “do not obey in advance”. I see the crew at Morning Joe has tunnel vision.. fuck em and their dwindling audience. MAGAS selling Donald merch, selling Nazi merch, selling America down the path of fascists and dictators. The ignorance is astounding, Donald’s picks for his cabinet have displayed their ignorance of the posts they hope to be placed. To advance in MAGA world you have to be a raging misogynist, alcoholic, billionaire with children from many girlfriends, and a pathetic individual.. as for the women? It’s the trad wife trad life. I’m vomiting now and we have 4 years of this shit show. 🤮⚠️
We must never forget he is a rapist. That he is POTUS Elect is culturally green-lighting predatory rape in every level of our society, at home behind closed doors and in every state institution.
Couple of things to remember. 1. Donald calls for retribution, how quaint… it should be called a “purge” similar to what the USSR did or China during the Cultural Revolution.. Purge…. 2. The folks Donald charges will have to retain counsel at $$$$. It was suggested by Ruth Ben Ghiat that we should contribute to crowd funding to assist these folks, I agree. Thank you Teri.
I’m proud to say I haven’t watched my previous go-to’s MSN, CNN or even BBC. I tried a few times and it just takes me to that dark place I’ve been struggling to climb out of since the election. It’s a very visceral experience I do not fking need in my life. But I’m gratified to know that this kind of fake ahem journalism gets swift and damning results. No viewers? Bye losers, bye $$ sucking sycophants.
Perhaps some of you may like to give Andra Watkins newly renamed Substack “For Times Such as These” a look see. She has a series about deliberate disengagement during this time, stop financially supporting the oligarchy in every way you possibly can; grow a garden, learn to can, barter with your neighbors, get to know your like-minded communities.
Get prepared financially in the next 6 weeks. Be sure to read the comments too, some great suggestions.
Figure out how to stay in touch with people like us in case the regime starts to shut down other spaces, perhaps even Substack. Individualize the suggestions to suit however seriously you want to take it
Yeah, today I reckon will have to be a self-care day. It’s too crazy to keep up with all the shite being thrown into the pool. (And if the cops come for you, shut the fuck up. That’s what you got lawyers for.)
I actually saw this rant via YouTube earlier. Holy crap, even though the circumstances surrounding this really do suck , this might be the most darkly comical thing I've seen online this year.
It's rare to witness someone completely losing it when the find out part of "f**k around, find out" comes crashing down on them, but damned if this wasn't an exceptional example of that.
I think the funniest part is how desperately ol' Joe there scrambled to walk A LOOOOONG way around to rationalize what he and Mika did, while on his face you can clearly see the look of a man who knows we know exactly what they did: Bend the knee and kiss the ring.
And - in an apparent attempt to make absolutely sure the Rotting Pumpkin -elect knows she and Joe are ready to fellate him on air at his pleasure - Mika inexplicably apologized to Faux ( sorry, FOX ) News for an entirely accurate joke one of their guests made about being too drunk for Fox. When you're playing the make nice/apologetic card with a network that literally LOST an almost billion dollar lawsuit for lying about voting machines in 2020, you've officially gone to the dark side.
Pardon my brusqueness, but f**k those two. I'm glad their ratings are tanking. My sincerest hope is that Lawrence O'Donnell - a true journalist of incredible integrity , who openly challenged his media colleagues during the election cycle for normalizing Trump's bizarre behavior - jumps ship from MSNBC and the rest of the network collapses under the weight of its own self serving hubris.
As long as I'm being so blunt, let me close this comment by adding f**k MSNBC too. All of them: Joy Reid, Van Jones , Rachel Maddow, all of them except O'Donnell. They all brought out their knives after Biden's debate performance - while repeatedly glossing over Trump's bulls**t - and are directly responsible for contributing to us ending up here.
Lawrence O’Donnell is the only tv news commentary I can watch anymore. Newspapers are for comics and puzzles and maybe a little local news. Substack is good - so far. The weather channel is nice. Otherwise I can be found in my workshop enjoying what’s left of my retirement.
Same. Lawrence is all the corp media for me. Rachel Maddow used to be my must- watch. I don't know what changed with her. Maybe it's the extra hour of "news" that I can't deal with.
I don’t know either, but I can’t watch her anymore. She has become a different person over the years. All the fun and vulnerability of her radio shows and early tv have been replaced with something off putting.
She was all in on attacking Biden for his age and , unlike Lawrence, never really covered what Biden got right after, like the frankly amazing hour long interview following the NATO summit where he answered detailed policy questions. She may dress it up, but Maddow us just another far left mainstream media stooge.
That's fine. I hope CNN fails too . Jones was part of that on air cabal that tore Biden down after the debate, so yeah, f**k him too. Too harsh? No. I gave all of these jerk offs every opportunity time and again and they repeatedly went low and sidestepped serious reporting on how insane Trump was, in favor of perpetuating the Biden death knell. You're being too forgiving.
"the Nazis carried out early experiments with deporting Jews from Germany. They also considered forcibly relocating entire Jewish communities to what they considered distant, undesirable, or isolated places. They explored plans to establish a reservation for Jews in the Lublin district of German-occupied Poland. They also considered sending Jews to MADAGASCAR (?!!) an island off the African coast." This is new information to me. Yes, the Nazis are definitely back in power.
While Stephen Miller's dream may be to deport or denaturalize every Spanish-surnamed person in the United States, Trump knows he doesn't need to do that: a few high-profile deportation raids, a few scenes of crying and miserable immigrants at the border and children sleeping on tinfoil, and MAGAs will believe the mission has been accomplished and Trump kept his promises. Didn't they build something like 50 miles of wall and convince his base that he completed that project, too?
It is very tempting to latch onto this idea, because it is totally logical. Well, logical in this jacked up timeline we are in. Anyway, what worries me is that his people don't all live right on the border, so they can't see it. They do live near Home Depot, and those lines of day laborers will still be there, the immigrant mowing their lawn will be there etc. They will know that these people are still around. I honestly think that mass deportation is the one promise he intends to keep. Horrible will not begin to describe it.
You got that right ,they’ll get some high profile mileage courtesy of the MSM and then just sit back and let the con take everyone for the perpetual bullshit ride ! He’ll claim all the darker skinned folks are just well tanned Floridians who are now traveling the country to reap the benefits off all the great paying jobs the illegal deportees left behind after he booted them out !
They are getting ready their facility in TX, a "detention" center and buying up property in TX for more. Abbott of course is offering public lands cheap and welcomes these concentration camps.
Wow. Jeff, I had no idea. I had no idea that the human voice is capable of yelling and whining at the same time. Maybe he can do bird and whale sounds next.
I assumed that performers, comedians, media talking heads would know their audience for maximum "reach." It appears the Scarborough and Mika sure didn't. They seemed surprised and stunned that MSNBC viewers don't look kindly on their ring kissing of that awful liar. Huh.
I’ve never watched Morning Joe, being a night owl and never turned on the TV before about 6 pm, but I haven’t watched any MSNBC since the election. I just can’t. I don’t want to know what Rachel and Alex and Lawrence and Stephanie have to say about what went wrong. I read you and Joyce Vance and Heather Cox Richardson and a few others and check on the BBC and The Guardian. On TV, I watch Judge Judy.
TV has been the devise used to dummy down Americans, i never watch it, knowing exactly what the plan has always been… sadly it worked to perfection Barbara!
She’s the judge and she’s in charge and she doesn’t suffer fools and she shuts down idiots. She’s my hero. I’d like to see some maga fraudsters try her patience.
It should be remarkably easy for the criminal-elect Trump move things outside of the United States. His friends have parked trillions offshore. Just ask them. Cayman Islands maybe?
I just bought the audiobook of that. Will listen to it now that I have returned from spending my Thanksgiving in Rwanda amongst the Mountain Gorillas 🦍 & a ton of the nicest happiest people I’ve seen in a long time. Visited 2 of their genocide memorials, participated in their Umagonda, a day where everyone in the country participates in planting trees, cleaning up trash, etc. It builds community & was great.
props to Ms. Spouse, who, when I told her that I was going to end today's piece with a clip of Morning Joe melting down, responded with "no, that's your lead story."
that's the kind of input I'd been sorely lacking during her seven-week convalescence
So glad she is better!!!💙
Having a copilot is a necessity, I’m glad yours is back safe and sound Jeff!!
Ditto
She was right. (I hope things are going well with her physical therapy!)
She's a keeper ;)
She is very wise! Good choice.
And she was right. I don't pay attention to MSNBC, and Moanin' Joe is an example of why - too much hypocrisy. In fact, when that fat orange fuckstick returns, I may do what I did when Bush started beating the Iraq war drums, and read only foreign news.
I find Al-Jazeera is very useful.
And of course The Guardian
The Guardian as well.
I do not pay attention to it, or watch television news unless there is a blizzard. Even then I have a hard time finding info and often give up in frustration. I do watch tv news in other countries though. Especially since I mostly live abroad.
Good for Ms Spouse, although the piece would have been a strong start or conclusion. And seriously, after watching Joe and Mika pontificate through the past four years about the moral hazards of a second Trump coming, how could they be surprised by the audience reaction. Such servile cowardice. I could watch Fox and Friends for that.
Yeah, Steve Deucy never wavered in his love for the Felon.
Obviously, that woman has class. You chose well, grasshopper.
Absolutely agree with Ms. Spouse! This was a great read this morning..as usual! I can’t get over at what a huge fucken cry baby Joe is and Mika just sits there. Goodbye morning Joe!
It's in the name: "Meek-a".
Aunt Spouse is smart
Ms. Spouse is wise beyond her years!
WTF Jeff…. No mention of a dinner with Mel for 1M the night before the installation. Talk about a grift… aren’t they supposed to be billionaires? ⚠️🤮⚠️🤮
Unquenchable avarice is its own prison. Fuck 'em.
So happy you & Ms. Spouse are reunited. Best wishes for her recovery.💐
He’s always on rants and I used to religiously watch the show until I gave up all TV news programs but I did watch him after Jan. 6 that was a doozy. I thought he’d get fired he went so far. Of course I thought he’d get fired when years ago him and Mika argued so bad when she said he was a little chauvinistic, his head blew off and they were both sent home and the show was cut short.
A “little bit” chauvinistic?? He’s way past that Mika just fyi. 🤣
She is a beacon for speaking Truth to Power. So glad she is home and doing better.
But of course! Take good care of Ms. Spouse!! She was right!
Love Ms. Spouse! Hi, Claudia!
"to get the read of the man"
What the fuck kind of "read" can you get of a man who is the human equivalent of one of those puffy board books for 2-year-olds? Go fuck yourself, Joe.
Seriously, he was president for 4 years and has spent the last 4 years constantly in the public eye. If you haven't got the "read" of him by now, you're a fucking idiot.
Who the hell HASN'T gotten the "read" of the elderly golfer? The problem is that a large % of the people of this idiot country liked the "read" of this rapist, felon, idiot, dementia-addled, misogynist, racist creep.
Let's not focus on that, but on the fact that the first of Trump's goals has been reached before he's even returned to office - that he has managed to utterly intimidate the most visible people in the media.
Sad and true
Right-o. You gotta be a fucking moron… no, a goddamn fucking moron if you haven’t already figured out what he’s about! He’s been screaming from the rooftops for years now.
Anyone who hasn’t read any of the multiple books about Trump, or the plethora of articles about Trumps birthright into the Genovese crime family, orhasn’t bothered to ask why he bows so fucking low to dictators, especially Putin! Has been criminally investigated since the 70’s, coupled with his 4 years of corrupt and criminal behavior as president is truly peerless in vacuous idiocy!!
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Worse he must think his viewers are idiots. Any sane person with half a brain sees through his BS
His only viewers now are those of us who are watching clips like this one and smacking our palms against our heads.
Trump’s viewers ARE idiots. 🤣
His viewers are idiots
What more do we possibly need to know? The demented diaper load doesn't know his fat ass from a hole in the ground. It's also very obvious that the best people he continues to surround himself with are just as dangerous, moronic and fucked up as he is. One of the very real reads is that the demented orange turd never reads shit about anything.
I thought his first term picks for his admin were bad. Holy shit, these nominees are over the top ridiculous. They will completely fuck up the country, our people, our alliances, the environment, the whole world. They must not be allowed access to power and influence!
His current picks make me miss the brain dead brain surgeon and sleazy Manchin.
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He can’t read
My thought rather exactly!
Here’s my read of the man:
The man is a sociopath who doesn’t read.
And here’s my read of Jeff Tiedrich:
He’s the man!
I think we got the “read of the man” during his almost 2 year campaign to stay out of prison
I think most of us got a "read of the man" when he mocked the disabled journalist. Or did mocking the Gold Star parents come first? Or did he pose with Jeffrey Epstein first? (It's all a vomitous blur to me now.) He's as easy to read as a fucking STOP sign.
The MAGAts have been whining about "cancel culture" for years. Now they're *really* gonna see what cancel culture looks like!
Skangirl, so right! Mocking a disabled person pre-2016 election was a shocking, disgraceful 5 alarm fire alarm. Fuck anyone who needed more of a "read" than that.
I forgot to include the Access Hollywood tape!
Shocking at the time. The good ole days.
Maybe when the Felon mismanaged the pandemic was a sign of who the man was.
Ironically, the only *good* thing accomplished under his watch was Operation Warp Speed to develop a covid vaccine--and his MAGAts booed and jeered when he tried to brag about it. So he stopped.
Even *then* he could have saved lives by promoting the vaccine. A billboard with him giving a thumbs up to the vaccine would've been a good place to start. But noooooo.
I remember that. He also was working on prison reform for a moment, but dropped it when he got backlash from his racist base.
I think we hear the clucking of a terrified chicken.
His whole run for president was a run to stay out of prison.
That’s exactly why and then ppl, judges, Supreme Court, Aileen Cannon, Merrick Garland, and an ongoing list of ass kissing chicken shits did everything they could to help the criminal get off the hook!!
And his never ending quest to seek revenge against those who tried to take him down.
And after the brave intelligence gathering outing to Mar-a-Lago by the Morning Jokers, all for the benefit of their viewing public, they came back with nothing.
Ms. Hudnall, They came back with less than nothing and now they are bleeding ratings and viewership. Personally, I'm loving the instant Karma.
Celebrity is a fragile thing.
It certainly is!
Remember they are not journalists.
And Mika Mouse trying to shill her Know your Worth b.s. I guess Mika Mouse doesn't know hers.
Yeah, I saw a one on one interview with only her on YouTube after they had gone to mira lardo and she spent the majority of the time promoting her organization. I came away with the same feeling that she doesn’t really know her value. It was actually sad to watch. I used to watch Morning Joe a long time ago (before she married Joe) and there is a difference in her. IMHO
GOOD!! I HOPE THE WHOLE SHOW AND THEM TURN TO SHIT 💩 THE ASSKISSERS!! Assholes period!!
Well said Alison, you’ve captured my sentiment perfectly!!
The issue isn't whether Donny Dumbass is stupid - that's a given. It's whether evil people should be treated as though they are legitimate persons with anything worthwhile to say. There is nothing for Joe to "read" about Trump. We're seeing the same conniving shit we saw 9 years ago, only worse, and attempts to cover a planned dictatorship by filling the regime with inept and incompetent yes-men.
Exactly!
Like we didn’t already know who Trump is, weak move Joe, Mika run.
Mika lost my respect before they married. He with his nonstop bluster, interrupting people, sucking all the air out of convos. I hope their ratings TANK.
Don't forget his rewriting of his history in the Clinton impeachment. He was all for it.
He’s got mental issues obviously! Anyone that has to be heard and seen at everyone’s expense feels not so good inside that over sized dome with 2 itty bitty eyes trying everything he can to be HEARD!!!
Great subheading:
“Morning Joe, Puffy Board Book Journalism.”
That’s an insult to the wonderful puffy board books that give Littles their first hunger for reading. 🤗
I’d say who needs a “read” on a big fat turd. It’s looks like shit and smells like shit. Needs no interpretation.
Gawd I hate that miserable waste of air.
It is not as if his nature is concealed in any way. It has been on very public display for half a century. And even if people outside of New York and Atlantic City who did not watch reality TV might not have paid much attention to him until he ran for President, we have had a decade of him being shoved in our faces relentlessly. We all know what he is already, and if you don't, Joe, then you are too fucking stupid for me to be interested in listening to your opinions.
Bravo!
He liked that phrase so much he repeated it several times, just so we'd understand what the hell he was talking about... repetitious nonsense is still nonsense. Meanwhile, he's been getting a read on his ratings numbers.
Since he's illiterate, how are WE supposed to read him? (Um, do I have that a little bit mixed up?)
I feel the exact same way!! Fuck both of them ass kissing pukes 🤮 I know so many ppl that quit watching them!!
I heard that too! I thought it was hysterical but probably was just a glitch in the recording.
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Morning Joe will soon be serving a cup of it at a local diner near you. This country and its media continue their downward spiral. It’s a revolution in slow motion… losing viewers and readers, shooting overpaid CEOs….The only place to get honest information is Substack. I’m grateful for Jeff and this community.
It's really something, isn't it, Susan: substacks have become one of the rare sources of news that we can trust. I have 15 writers whose work I follow on substacks. Meanwhile, I no longer read the NYT or the WaPo, nor do I watch CNN (haven't for years) and am only rarely watching MSNBC. In years past, it would have been unthinkable to me that all of the major sources of news information in the United States could be taken over so quickly and so thoroughly.
Yes… agree with you. Greed is killing this country.
And the corruption that comes with it.🙄😡
Greed consumed an ignorant society with meetings of six Uber wealthy individuals on Jekyll Island in 1910, where the money trust birthed the Federal Reserve Susan!!
With early signs of the coming shit storm, reading intelligent folks point out what was really going on behind the scenes the last 50 years, "the revolution" should have begun in the '70's or '80's. The way the obscene wealth grab from our former middle class to all the wealthy people ... how can that be reversed? It would take literally millions of us in the streets, all kind of violence. We can only hope dcon & co-horts are distracted with backstabbing, circular firing squads (maga on maga), and chaos. So a hundred million dollar co. CEO has been murdered. I better stop here.🚌🚌🚌🚌🚌🚌🚌
We tried the revolution in the 1970's. We got Kent State and Jackson State and the fucking Moral Majority.
There is nothing. nothing some motherfucker won’t commodify in this country.
MSNBC has become very milk toast very quickly. Me no watch.
The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell is very much worth watching. He takes no prisoners.
I am so crushed that I can't even watch Lawrence and Maddow. I just can't. I need my sanity.
He's the ONLY one I watch on the news any more. (Although it looks like Welker did an excellent job yesterday!)
Mind-blowing, isn't it... The muskrat has been talking about buying out CNN. He later, apparently "jokingly", talked about doing the same to MSNBC. I've asked the question: who owns these companies? who has the power to sell out? No responses yet.
I’m done with it all too, KD, and I never felt better. Including MSNBC. I would miss Lawrence O’Donnell but when I think of it I just check in on his show on Netflix. As for Joe and Mika it’s really embarrassing to watch them publicly grovel. They have so much money they could walk away with dignity. They’re just not smart and creative enough to find a better way. No tears to be shed here!
Joe and Mika’s dignity went to Hell back in 2015 when they were letting trmp call into their show. That was when I found counting my socks more enlightening than Morning Joe.
I still watch Nicole Wallace, Maddow &
O'Donnell. But my mornings are pure TIEDRICH & BLUESKY.
Nichole has a great show. Watched for ages. No more. Too much news. TCM (Turner Classic Movies) doesn't make me want to jump off my balcony.
My go to , to keep myself off the proverbial ledge, are murder shows, but only the ones where they catch and imprison or put the bad guys to death.
What do you mean, "too much news"? Do you mean it's just overwhelming? or are you referring to the content/slant?
I meant overwhelming.
I watched Morning Joe to get a "read of the man", and I changed the channel.
I've never been able to stomach him. He's just gross (IMHO). As for Mika, she is so passive that she makes me cringe.
Watched the abuse she takes exactly once.
Same here, I’ve never watched them for however long they’ve been on the air, but tuned in for a few minutes a few weeks before the election just to see what everyone else was watching. The way Joe interrupts her, & everyone else too, & talks over her when she does manage to try to speak, is just sickening. I couldn’t stand it.
Thanks for saying it. We have subscribed to the NYT for decades, and now we are fed up with it.
This could have been my post. EXACTLY the same. We can look up histories of people and decide ourselves if they are honest and experienced. Heather Cox Richardson is a good example. And of curse Uncle Jeff.
(My system auto spelled out “curse” instead of “course”. I left it because … you know!).
Timothy Snyder is superb. Joyce Vance is another excellent source of information.
Between auto correct and fingers far too large for such a tiny keyboard I definitely understand!
Absolutely Marie!
I would bet they are looking for a new berth at Faux Snooze.
I’ve preferred FUX SNOOZE, but appreciate your sentiment Stephan!!
I know it as "Fux Propaganda" - a greedy money-making machine that has done more damage to the country than conOLD himself.
Yes, and it has made that disgusting decrepit Murdoch untold oodles of moola.
Russian propaganda is about right Steve!!
I like Faux Newski
FUX/FAUX NOISE is all that ever comes out of their broadcast, but I dig the SKI twist you’ve applied considering the Kompromat Kristy!!
They should do Faux & Friends with all the knuckleheads.
I shuddered when Bill Clinton signed the new Telecommunications Act, the birth of FAUX NOISE, the beating drum of shilling for the insanely ignorant Tea Party and GOP had their mouthpiece!
I might dye my hair and wear Spanx for that kind of money.
No I wouldn't.
You'll have to get breast implants. Are you down with that?
Joe as a short order cook and Mika as the harried waitress. What a wonderful picture. Willie Geist can be the dishwasher.😂😂
LOVE IT!!!
Amen Susan!!
So true! And now even The Guardian is being taken over!
Finding truthful reporting is getting as valuable as fresh air. Thank goodness we have Jeff and Substack.
Dana, who bought The Guardian? I just subscribed.
WHAT!!! I hope the guardian doesnt change.
Isn't Hugo Lowell with the Guardian ? I follow him on BlueSky.
WHAT??!! I've been subscribing for a long time. I had no idea that this was happening!
Nicely said Susan!!
EXACTLY ! 💯 %
I feel like 1/2 our country was not only duped by a Nigerian prince promising riches, but then decided to make him president.
Mark, Sometimes Jeff's community identifies our predicament so perfectly and concisely, I wish THESE were the headlines across our leading news publications. You have executed the most perfect assessment of "What happended" November 5th. Thank you.
George Santayana said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Unfortunately we’re living among a fuck ton of people marinating in their own ignorance
We cannot expect one person to know all of what’s at hand. That’s what a cabinet is for. And more more, the vp. But orange guy thinks he knows everything. Including how best to apply his orange face mask. Loving the 1” margins around his hairline (or what’s left of his hairline).
Joe's real problem is he was one of the republicans that helped pave the way for trump; has tried to "make up for it," but never really did. Now he's returning to his republican roots - lecturing democrats on what they are doing wrong, and why everything he does is right.
Exactly Chris!!
I have NEVER trusted ANY Republikkkan.
Being born in 56” under Ike’s administration was my first and only time trusting a repugnantkin because first of all I was a friggen baby and secondly Ike was about as apolitical as a human being could possibly get! He was a five star General of the U.S. Army when they took being non partisan seriously having sworn their oath to the constitution and the people! The repugnants basically drafted him into their ranks and knew a sure winner when they seen one ☝️! Since my tender years under the Eisenhower presidency I knew that my toddlers instincts were absolutely correct about not trusting the lowlife bastards as far as I could throw up on them ! Only once did I even come close to considering a vote for a repugnant that was for John McCain but even then I couldn’t do it ! Not all the Dems I’ve voted for over the past 50 years have made me shiver and shake but not one of them came as close to being a moron traitor rapist thief con artist as our future leader is ! How the fuck did this country allow this shit to happen !
I was born in ' 51, I agree. Although I admired McCain, he chose Palin , so NO FUCKING WAY, I would EVER vote for a REPUBLIKKKAN. Remember
Eisenhower' s OPERATION WETBACK ?
Although he did warn of the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL CO.PLEX. The Carlyle group et al .
You are more generous than I about our parents generation. There were people who gave a shit about others. They were called Democrats and were the outsiders.
“Evening News Wally…” brilliant! Jesus H. Christ on a Crankshaft….I need to keep a Jesus Christ -fill in the blank-on your vocab! Love it! And Joe/Mika-tough shit on your “fee-fees getting hurt!”. Typical media bullshit that was! And am SO GLAD that the “deportation countries” are telling trumpy to fuck off! Whew…calm down now. :)
Mika' s " Value " has totally diminished.
Kristy, Mika's "Know Your Value" women's program is BULLLSHIT! I've emailed/tweeted many times over the years - she's out in "her place" daily by her narcissistic partner, interrupted, talked over. She sits there silently. JFC
*put in her place
I don't watch abuse.
I watched MJ exactly 2 times & I noticed that bs immediately, couldn’t stand it.
She's ageing and that's a sin. When there gig collapses he will find a hottie and work for Faux.
...Jesus H. Christ on a crankshaft, Joe — defensive much?...my personal fav today Jeff.
I'm glad I checked out of the MSM.
Today's post is one of your best!
The only way I can continue to wake up as I see that apparently the orange mousolini has signed the transition paperwork it seems this is really fuckin happening.
Thanks to you, Meidas, Harry L, Heather and Joyce, I'm staying the course. You all Rock.
Scott Dworkin and Meidas Touch Network are more truth tellers. All of these are where I get my news.
I'm very impressed with young Adam Mockler ! 👏
I'm also a fan or Aaron Parnas
As Timothy Snyder says.. “do not obey in advance”. I see the crew at Morning Joe has tunnel vision.. fuck em and their dwindling audience. MAGAS selling Donald merch, selling Nazi merch, selling America down the path of fascists and dictators. The ignorance is astounding, Donald’s picks for his cabinet have displayed their ignorance of the posts they hope to be placed. To advance in MAGA world you have to be a raging misogynist, alcoholic, billionaire with children from many girlfriends, and a pathetic individual.. as for the women? It’s the trad wife trad life. I’m vomiting now and we have 4 years of this shit show. 🤮⚠️
Don’t forget rapist
We must never forget he is a rapist. That he is POTUS Elect is culturally green-lighting predatory rape in every level of our society, at home behind closed doors and in every state institution.
Fredo, d-con's "nominations" are IMO a GIANT FUCK YOU, AMERICA, GET READY TO HAVE YOUR LIVES FUBAR.
Yes they are! That is exactly what he is saying to America and us
Couple of things to remember. 1. Donald calls for retribution, how quaint… it should be called a “purge” similar to what the USSR did or China during the Cultural Revolution.. Purge…. 2. The folks Donald charges will have to retain counsel at $$$$. It was suggested by Ruth Ben Ghiat that we should contribute to crowd funding to assist these folks, I agree. Thank you Teri.
I’m proud to say I haven’t watched my previous go-to’s MSN, CNN or even BBC. I tried a few times and it just takes me to that dark place I’ve been struggling to climb out of since the election. It’s a very visceral experience I do not fking need in my life. But I’m gratified to know that this kind of fake ahem journalism gets swift and damning results. No viewers? Bye losers, bye $$ sucking sycophants.
I heard the beginning of a Trump audio clip on the radio and I had to turn it off immediately because I get a visceral reaction as well.
I know the feeling. I can’t look at him or hear his voice.
Sweet Tama!!
Perhaps some of you may like to give Andra Watkins newly renamed Substack “For Times Such as These” a look see. She has a series about deliberate disengagement during this time, stop financially supporting the oligarchy in every way you possibly can; grow a garden, learn to can, barter with your neighbors, get to know your like-minded communities.
Get prepared financially in the next 6 weeks. Be sure to read the comments too, some great suggestions.
Figure out how to stay in touch with people like us in case the regime starts to shut down other spaces, perhaps even Substack. Individualize the suggestions to suit however seriously you want to take it
Yeah, today I reckon will have to be a self-care day. It’s too crazy to keep up with all the shite being thrown into the pool. (And if the cops come for you, shut the fuck up. That’s what you got lawyers for.)
I actually saw this rant via YouTube earlier. Holy crap, even though the circumstances surrounding this really do suck , this might be the most darkly comical thing I've seen online this year.
It's rare to witness someone completely losing it when the find out part of "f**k around, find out" comes crashing down on them, but damned if this wasn't an exceptional example of that.
I think the funniest part is how desperately ol' Joe there scrambled to walk A LOOOOONG way around to rationalize what he and Mika did, while on his face you can clearly see the look of a man who knows we know exactly what they did: Bend the knee and kiss the ring.
And - in an apparent attempt to make absolutely sure the Rotting Pumpkin -elect knows she and Joe are ready to fellate him on air at his pleasure - Mika inexplicably apologized to Faux ( sorry, FOX ) News for an entirely accurate joke one of their guests made about being too drunk for Fox. When you're playing the make nice/apologetic card with a network that literally LOST an almost billion dollar lawsuit for lying about voting machines in 2020, you've officially gone to the dark side.
Pardon my brusqueness, but f**k those two. I'm glad their ratings are tanking. My sincerest hope is that Lawrence O'Donnell - a true journalist of incredible integrity , who openly challenged his media colleagues during the election cycle for normalizing Trump's bizarre behavior - jumps ship from MSNBC and the rest of the network collapses under the weight of its own self serving hubris.
As long as I'm being so blunt, let me close this comment by adding f**k MSNBC too. All of them: Joy Reid, Van Jones , Rachel Maddow, all of them except O'Donnell. They all brought out their knives after Biden's debate performance - while repeatedly glossing over Trump's bulls**t - and are directly responsible for contributing to us ending up here.
Lawrence O’Donnell is the only tv news commentary I can watch anymore. Newspapers are for comics and puzzles and maybe a little local news. Substack is good - so far. The weather channel is nice. Otherwise I can be found in my workshop enjoying what’s left of my retirement.
I stopped watching MSNBC after the election but if I dip my toe back in, it will be Lawrence O'Donnell. I'm doing self-care watching baking shows.
That is exactly where I am at. I need to survive with my mental health intact.
Same. Lawrence is all the corp media for me. Rachel Maddow used to be my must- watch. I don't know what changed with her. Maybe it's the extra hour of "news" that I can't deal with.
I don’t know either, but I can’t watch her anymore. She has become a different person over the years. All the fun and vulnerability of her radio shows and early tv have been replaced with something off putting.
I agree with all your choices except for Rachel. She is a national treasure & always links today’s MAGA with earlier examples in US history
She was all in on attacking Biden for his age and , unlike Lawrence, never really covered what Biden got right after, like the frankly amazing hour long interview following the NATO summit where he answered detailed policy questions. She may dress it up, but Maddow us just another far left mainstream media stooge.
You are so right about Maddow!
I'm with ya! Only watching Lawrence O'Donnell--the rest can go eat dirt!
Van Jones is on CNN, I haven't watched CNN for several years
I like Joy Reid, Nicole Wallace. Mddow & especially Lawrence. You're being too harsh, & may I say , having a knee jerk reaction.
That's fine. I hope CNN fails too . Jones was part of that on air cabal that tore Biden down after the debate, so yeah, f**k him too. Too harsh? No. I gave all of these jerk offs every opportunity time and again and they repeatedly went low and sidestepped serious reporting on how insane Trump was, in favor of perpetuating the Biden death knell. You're being too forgiving.
"the Nazis carried out early experiments with deporting Jews from Germany. They also considered forcibly relocating entire Jewish communities to what they considered distant, undesirable, or isolated places. They explored plans to establish a reservation for Jews in the Lublin district of German-occupied Poland. They also considered sending Jews to MADAGASCAR (?!!) an island off the African coast." This is new information to me. Yes, the Nazis are definitely back in power.
While Stephen Miller's dream may be to deport or denaturalize every Spanish-surnamed person in the United States, Trump knows he doesn't need to do that: a few high-profile deportation raids, a few scenes of crying and miserable immigrants at the border and children sleeping on tinfoil, and MAGAs will believe the mission has been accomplished and Trump kept his promises. Didn't they build something like 50 miles of wall and convince his base that he completed that project, too?
It is very tempting to latch onto this idea, because it is totally logical. Well, logical in this jacked up timeline we are in. Anyway, what worries me is that his people don't all live right on the border, so they can't see it. They do live near Home Depot, and those lines of day laborers will still be there, the immigrant mowing their lawn will be there etc. They will know that these people are still around. I honestly think that mass deportation is the one promise he intends to keep. Horrible will not begin to describe it.
Yes except Miller is a true believer/sociopath and he wonʻt stop unless Trump tells him to do so. Thatʻs what I worry about.
You got that right ,they’ll get some high profile mileage courtesy of the MSM and then just sit back and let the con take everyone for the perpetual bullshit ride ! He’ll claim all the darker skinned folks are just well tanned Floridians who are now traveling the country to reap the benefits off all the great paying jobs the illegal deportees left behind after he booted them out !
They are getting ready their facility in TX, a "detention" center and buying up property in TX for more. Abbott of course is offering public lands cheap and welcomes these concentration camps.
I'm interested in watching SEPARATED,
on MSNBC , Saturday . Based on Jacob Soboroff's book
Jacob Soboroff MSNBC is excellent! He's been reporting on immigration as far back as in d-con's first term, separating children from parents.
Absolutely 💯 will be watching that documentary
Right up there with "hey, let's give the Jews Uganda for their own state! What's not to like?"
How about we buy Greenland and send them there? I'm sure some moronic imbecile in Trump world has already thought of that.
The Danes would NEVER go for that.
He tried that. Denmark said fuck off.
Trump wants Canada now…
He'd hate it. Too many animals.
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Damn straight KD and no one saw this coming!!
Wow. Jeff, I had no idea. I had no idea that the human voice is capable of yelling and whining at the same time. Maybe he can do bird and whale sounds next.
I assumed that performers, comedians, media talking heads would know their audience for maximum "reach." It appears the Scarborough and Mika sure didn't. They seemed surprised and stunned that MSNBC viewers don't look kindly on their ring kissing of that awful liar. Huh.
Oh damn now Iʻm going to have to watch the clip.....it sounds intriguing.
I saw it on YouTube. All I could think was WTF and why is he yelling at his remaining viewers. Mike reminds me of a good little wife. Barf.
Don't do that to yourself.
I’ve never watched Morning Joe, being a night owl and never turned on the TV before about 6 pm, but I haven’t watched any MSNBC since the election. I just can’t. I don’t want to know what Rachel and Alex and Lawrence and Stephanie have to say about what went wrong. I read you and Joyce Vance and Heather Cox Richardson and a few others and check on the BBC and The Guardian. On TV, I watch Judge Judy.
TV has been the devise used to dummy down Americans, i never watch it, knowing exactly what the plan has always been… sadly it worked to perfection Barbara!
I think that's why my parents didn't get a tv until 1976, when I was 26.
Yes, being on the West Coast, I only turn on the tv to watch Hartmann at 9am. Anything earlier is not going to happen, since I'm retired.
Judge Judy is a bitch.
How so?
She's intolerant, & full of herself. Makes aot of incomprehensible decisions.
She’s the judge and she’s in charge and she doesn’t suffer fools and she shuts down idiots. She’s my hero. I’d like to see some maga fraudsters try her patience.
Thank you Jeff.
It should be remarkably easy for the criminal-elect Trump move things outside of the United States. His friends have parked trillions offshore. Just ask them. Cayman Islands maybe?
https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/paradise-papers
I read Autocracy Inc. by Applebaum last summer and recommend it if you are curious about where the billionaires park their money.
Thank you Gloria!
Thanks. I will seek this book out.
I just bought the audiobook of that. Will listen to it now that I have returned from spending my Thanksgiving in Rwanda amongst the Mountain Gorillas 🦍 & a ton of the nicest happiest people I’ve seen in a long time. Visited 2 of their genocide memorials, participated in their Umagonda, a day where everyone in the country participates in planting trees, cleaning up trash, etc. It builds community & was great.
That's a superb idea!
Paradise Papers, i wondered who knew of these details George!!