I wake up every morning with dread and panic. Fear. I look at others wondering… are you a Trumper? I won’t trust anyone who is. Our lives have been destroyed by a criminal and they cheer for him. WTF? We’ve become a willfully shithole country and thank god for communities like this where I don’t feel so alone. ✌️
Feel the same. And I am with Cory Booker. We have each other. And each of us has something indestructible within that is good. We can support each other in fostering that goodness. That's all that's certain. But that's a lot.
I’m all in with Cory Booker. I don’t feel personally afraid of maga, but I do feel afraid and compassion for those who are going to be affected by their cruel immigration policies. I have friends who are immigrants and they are getting ready now to go back to their homelands no matter the circumstances there. I see the fear in them.
My husband is Mexican and was born in the United States. He faced racism most of his young life and suddenly is feeling it again.
Newsom is holding a meeting with the state assembly on 12/2. CA is the 5th largest economy driver in the world. I am praying that he gets the state legislators (majority are Dems) to withhold federal taxes. That way we would be able to protect our migrant workers and immigrants because the money would be there. CA, on the average, pays over $200 billion each year. We have 40 million people here. If that money is withheld, the feds have to reach into their own pockets to run the country. CA would put a HUGE dent into the Maga system.
It’s going to mostly come down to law. Constitutional lawyers laying out game plans to turn things over and block. Project Democracy has been working for this past year (or more) anticipating legal moves and defenses.
And MAGAts are already feeling buyers remorse as they begin to realize just what Trump's plans would mean for them. It isn't good. The brighter buttons among them may also realize that once they have voted this monster in and given him what he wants he will turn to is real base: the wealthiest in the country. Trump wasn't kidding when he told them that he didn't care about them--he just wanted their vote.
We need to remember the other 72mil of us, Kamala showed us who we are in alignment with. Only 1/3 of the adult population voted for trump, 1/3 didn't or couldn't vote, so keep asking people what they think about these kinds of changes and we might find ourselves with unlikely but many more allies than we think we have now. I'm not giving up on the poor stupid fuckers who voted for him because eventually many of them will come crawling in regret when it sucks for them too, and we only need to peel off a few million....
See the link below re estimated cost of mass deportations as immigration reform policy and use those phrases when posting on your socials. Deportations will cripple major sectors of the economy that most people want to function (food and construction) they just don't know it yet. Poor stupid suckers. Keep your head up and don't give people who don't know any better more power than they have usurped already. Just sticking with the facts will help. People in Congress are going to reach a point where it's going to be hard to justify the effects of what they've done and we just need to be ready to say 'told you so' with legitimate information that mirrors REALITY.
It won't take long for people to realize just how damaging his mass deportation promises to be--if he can actually do it. '28 will be a repeat of '20. People will revolt against the economic chaos, the incompetence and the corruption and kick these MAGAs out of office.
How long will it take for Team Trump to trash the economy again, knowing that economic stability and growth is usually sustained for a decent amount of time after elections Anne?
Hey, I just had a thought - if deportations carry such a high fiscal burden (approx $180b/yr) is there any possibility they will use deportations as 'show' to scare the crap out of people and convince those in opposition that the gvmt will be coming for us if we step out of line - and then not carry the whole policy through because it will cripple food production and construction? We need independent reporting to suss out what's really happening and who's really in charge besides Elon. I think the plundering is going to happen on many fronts, but I'm prepared for anything in front of us to also be a distraction from something more important to them.
Oh the economy trashing will happen because he's such a stupid fucker he's going to let Musk break the bank, but just the threat of tariffs is having an effect on large and small businesses that rely on Chinese goods to function snd profit snd leaders are explaining to their employees that they aren't getting Christmas bonuses this yr because of the threat of tariffs - so it's possible this sharp tack away from stability motivated fiscal policy will have more immediate effects than we are used to and the hangover effect will be erased. I agree economics is the hardest thing for people to grasp. Having something like this to share with your friends and family on socials might wake them up to the pending econ reality of a $88b cost to deport 1m 'illegals' and the lost tax revenue that 'illegals' pay without getting a vote (also near 100b/yr), and the rich are getting a massive tax break on day 1 - if people do the 7th grade math they can see for themselves. It's dicey because pmthe dawn comes slowly for some but the most effective counter will be their own voters being unhappy with what they do, no? https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation
What makes Musk think he can wipe 2-3 Trillion off the books? He won't be able to touch the military, which eats up a large proportion of the budget. Knowing Republicans, he'll look to the already tattered social safety net, and the blowback will be huge.
I would be surprised if there wasn't a major across the board freak out if they started messing in with SSA/SSDI and theres already intentions to beef up military and give tax breaks upward, and waste money on deportations instead of schools, so a balanced budget only seems possible with super draconian cuts and there is something in all of these plans that hurts nearly everyone who voted gop. The one silver lining is that if they are in control of everything and things go south for the true majority of people, there will be backlash they won't be able to pin on anyone else.
I am old and out of the loop. What do you all mean by gummies?
And, the Republicans have won, not exactly fair and square, but it reminds me of that H.L. Mencken said:
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." When they come crawling back to say they made a mistake, tell them to go fuck themselves. Jeff knows.
CBD THC gummies. I’m a lifelong insomniac and Alzheimer’s runs in my family. Which is now type3 diabetes.. and I’m already type2 so if you don’t sleep and you have a cluster of other issues.. then you have a much higher chance of Alzheimer’s. My mom was diagnosed at age 60 she’s now 92 she lost her entire mind by 65.. in 5 years she was completely gone..
My nurse practitioner finally gave me generic Klonopin for insomnia. First she ran me thru months of herbal OTC then worthless RXs. Only after every single one failed was she "in compliance with clinic rules" for generic Klonopin.
Thx gummies don't work for you? There are three types: Sativa (makes you energetic); Indica (for sleep); and #3 Hybrid. Make sure you're getting INDICA, which will put you to sleep.
Yes Terry.. IN DA COUCH that’s what I remember you telling me and that’s what I stocked up on!! Thank you!! That was the best way to remember and I don’t remember shit these days..
Oh, wow....I'm sorry. Maybe you need to look into the type of gummy...Ive had some that were just like smoking. And they knocked me for a loop! YIKES! 😂
Thanks Teri and Susan. I have finally resorted to trazadone. It's an anti-depressant that kept just putting people to sleep. One of the many useless antidepressants. It does work for sleep.
I think I need to try stronger gummies, for sanity.
Low Dose Naltrexone ( I’m a sugar fiend) Keeps me from craving sugar but it mashes me sleepy and Ativan since my anxiety is now next level.. and a lot of CBD/CBN I remember someone here told me to get Indica “ in da Couch” it’s perfect !! I actually slept last night. Fucking miracle!
I've been taking trazodone for some time. In higher, more therapeutic doses, it's an antidepressant. In the dose I take, it enables me to fall asleep and stay asleep. I've been taking it for years, after I developed a problem falling and staying asleep. Works like a charm, isn't habit-forming and has no side effects. And it's cheap.
I’m awake most of the night and sleep ALL day. Sit on my phone constantly. Depression meds are not helping. Going to look into gummies. One for energy and one to sleep.
It’s helpful to have chores that require your attention Sally, like the dog staring me down at the foot of my bed at 5:30 am every day, along with a daily workout to follow. Find a routine, something easy like reading Jeff’s posts daily, and get involved in community is about all I can share. I do wish everyone here, find peace in a time of such madness and chaos!
What's not helpful is having to go to work and be surrounded by Trumpists, including the owners. It was bad enough during COVID, but this is going to be a deal breaker. I'm planning to retire in a couple of months. But I swear to Gawd that if that one particular partner comes to gloat at me, I will grab my purse and walk out without saying a word of good-bye.
Marian I’m sending you love sister!! And a huge hug. I completely understand.. client came in and started in on me about how great that Orange Shitstain is.. opened the door back up and told her to find someone else to work with.. I will not have someone in my studio that I will have to work on for 4 hours and listen to her praise that racist POS.. when I’m Native Hawaiian..🖕🏽fuck MAGAts
I don't know your situation to come up with something, but if it were me, I would consider a one line zinger as the door closes behind you - probably could find a few quips on here that may fit. Years ago, I left a job after only a few months due to multiple concerns with the management. The head manager, when I walked in one day and surprised him with my immediate resignation, retaliated with, "glad to see you go" as I walked out. I responded with, "yes, so am I, the management here has so many deficits," as I shut the door. I still grin when I remember his startled look. Enjoy your retirement!
Mine is a little complicated. My husband is a manager here, and though he's not full MAGA, he did vote for Trump (yes, it's caused a lot of strain in our marriage) and he absolutely won't take my side against his boss (another strain in the relationship). I'm retiring, but he has no plans to. Me walking out will make a statement and probably get me a lame apology, but if I cap it with a great zinger, it would probably do more damage to my marriage than this job.
I’m so sorry.. my hubby is a libertarian which is far right. He didn’t vote for the Orange Shitstain.. which saved our relationship.. he could be lying.. but he’s a Virgo.. brutally honest.. they are not easy to live with.. but both my parents also Virgos.. God help me
I’m trying to find my spin bike.. I’m hoping it’s in my shipping container.. if not I’m gonna have to fork over to get another one.. this BS is keeping me up all night long and I’ve got to exhaust myself and take copious amounts of THC : CBD to knock me on my ass to sleep thru the night.. right now I’m barely human with 3 hours of sleep a night.. no ..walking doesn’t work well when your in wet heavy assed snow.. and you are from the tropics..fvck I’m exhausted
Oh please let me know how that goes!! I’m going to a different lab that does Alzheimer’s genetic testing. My mom’s full blown.. and I’m so shot from this election cycle I’m just exhausted so I’m being proactive..
And you, sir, win the Common Sense Award in the approach to the next 4 years and 2 months. Just say NO to TV news programs. I haven't missed a thing in the last 4 years from simply checking in on an online news aggregator a few times a day for any 'breaking' new headlines and reading the opinions of a select few writers (like Jeff) to get some semblance of the zeitgeist. Recommend reading a couple non-US news and opinion sites from here on, for as Jeff says, the Mainstream Corporate Media is back on its lucrative 24 hour a day trumpwatch.
He’s a useful idiot, who’s nearly outlived his usefulness… considering his drug addled brain has short circuited so many times of late, I can’t imagine he’ll be around long RZ!
A guy goes to a kiosk, buys a paper, glances at the front page, and tosses it in the trash. The next day, he does the same thing. The third day, the proprietor can't help but ask "Why do you buy the paper if you don't want to read it?"
I keep hoping every single day that I will wake up and the orange shitstain will be dead. It’s just a matter of time. But then there is shady Vance and all his crap. Death is almost too good for both of them.
It’s okay to feel angry and untethered, but you cannot, must not, give up! I discovered that my grandson voted for him, but he is too young to remember what happened 8 years ago. He, too, will suffer under a regime whose policies will make life more difficult for all of us. It won’t be easy, but like my Senator, Cory Booker said, our resistance to the upcoming administration begins now. We can and will continue to fight the worst of his policies. There are still guardrails that the president* cannot destroy. The only way out of this is through it. It will be very bumpy, so fasten your seatbelts, but we will come out stronger on the other side.
They are! If you’re lucky to live in a State that has publicly stated they will fight him, then that means they’re fighting for its citizens and our sacred democracy. Groups are organizing for rallies and other activities. A google search will help you find them near you. The Woman’s March is scheduled for inauguration day in DC and will be announcing other State capitol buildings in the very near future.
I’ve been donating what I can to the ACLU who will be crucial in helping. (I know the word donation is probably not what you want to hear)
There will be many ways to resist that will surface very soon.
Resisting also means doing what Cory Booker said. Continue to love each other. Continue to love and support your family and friends in this grieving process and then continue on with your life as best you can as you did before this election.
Not watching the news anymore is going to help me.
Fear is exactly what they want. They see power and weakness in fear.
After your grieving is over get back into life, your community, volunteer, take up a new hobby, and/or anything else that makes you feel better. Then you might be ready to participate in resisting and maybe it will be passive resistance.
I thought the Women's March in DC is scheduled for Saturday, January 18, 2025? And there will be plenty of marches the same day at the state level and local level?
I marched with them in 2019 with my two adult daughters. I don’t plan attending this year because I feel it has less meaning. White women (not us here) did not support Black women this year at all. They are feeling the hurt and the pain. That’s why I will not march again but will take a backseat to anything they come up with.
Thanks Sharon for the inspiring words.☺️. Your grandson is lucky to have a well educated person in his life. An open channel may give you both opportunities to chat calmly.
Soviet style perception management explains much of this election Seeking! Allison Gills Substack( Mueller She Wrote) offers helpful insights I’ve spoken of here many times… The Telecommunications Act Clinton signed in 96 led to unlicensed/unregulated access on the internet, an issue the FCC never addressed!
I know a lot of people want to believe that the election was tampered with because it is easier than accepting that the majority of Americans no longer believe in decency. There is no evidence of it, and in a state like mine (Michigan) where Democrats are thoroughly in control of the process it is not plausible.
I live in the deep south. They are letting us know loud and clear exactly who they voted for. I prefer it this way. It gives me time to get away from them. I had a mad red hatter pull up and block the exit from my car screaming, " You drive an Obama car!' I have a Honda with zero bumper stickers.
I think it depends on where you live. I have never owned one. But times have changed. And the nearest blue state is 800 miles away. I have no choice but to get armed.
I had to take Marksmanship in high school (military academy). I had trouble hitting the target at all, let alone anywhere near the center. I have never touched a gun since and know that I would never be any good with one.
Those who aren't experienced should consider a 12 gauge shotgun. If you can point, you can use it. Civil War artillery doctrine: double canister clears your front.
If you're going to get a gun and aren't familiar with firearms, for heaven's sake get some training. Otherwise, you may end up being more of a danger to yourself than anyone else.
Oh dear God they’re fvcking insane.. you drive what works for you and your family and what you can afford.. i drive a Nissan.. the stupidity of MAGAts😵💫 did those fvckers inbreed with a damn moldy assed gerbil?!?! Sorry gerbils
Susan, me too. I go to the market, the coffee shop, the gym, on a walk along the river. My brain is ‘that looks like a trumper, I’ll be that’s a trumper.’ I’m going to wear my Kamala shirt so folks know who I am.
I fear for the younger women and the "your body, my choice" new mantra. Rape statistics went up quite a bit in Texas after their anti-abortion law passed. Haven't seen some of the other red state statistics yer.
All of us women of any age should be looking to buy pepper spray and have it on our keyrings. Rape isn't only about sex. It's about power too. So even if we're 5O, 60, or more. I have to find out if it's legal in my state.
I drive a big old truck, which we bought for camping. It has a bumper magnet that reads ‘Sometimes a truck is just a truck’ so people don’t base who I am on my vehicle. It’s red but I’m blue. It’s old but so am I.
Bravo 🙌🏽 yeah we’ve got a few trucks too.. someone slapped a Maga sticker on the bumper of one of them and I lost my shit.. unfortunately hubby got the full blast of my anger..i spoke the obvious: you do know you’re married to a Native Hawaiian who isn’t full white.. right?!?! He got that off his truck pronto..
There's a movement to have non-MAGAt women wear a blue bracelet to identify themselves as a safe person to other people. I'm going to Michael's today to buy blue beads and start making bracelets for my friends.
Mary that’s a fabulous idea !! I think I actually have blue embroidery thread!! Hope it’s ok if I copy you. I want to make them for my girls and my clients who aren’t stupid drumpfytes
Please spread this message far and wide. BTW, Michael's has strings of beads on sale -- buy three and get three free. I like to use "Stretch Magic" jewelry cord to make bracelets. Just read the directions before you start if you decide to go that route. 💙
I also have some in my yarn pile.. my yarn has taken over the couch.. it’s huge.. I’ve been so anxious with Drumpf back in the WH and this voting season.. I’m crocheting and knitting like crazy..
I had a repairman here on Friday and all I could think was "I bet he's a trumper." Constantly alert for clues. It feels like we are in a silent civil war.
People in the heartland have real economic problems that the federal government has ignored. "People are putting their groceries on their credit card. No one is listening to anything else you say if you try to talk them out of their lived experiences with data points from some economists." Marie Gluesenkamp Perez. Democratic congresswoman
So… they’re struggling to make ends meet and the answer is to elect a hate-mongering, racist, traitorous felon who tried to overthrow the government? Sorry, plenty of people who voted AGAINST giving our country over to a bunch of evil goons are also struggling to make ends meet. I watched with my own eyes how Trumpers laughed and shouted with glee the more vulgar and vengeful their Dear Leader got. They were salivating to hear him talk about people getting beaten, or to hear him talk about immigrants like they are sub-human. These “hard up” people smiled and cheered for the grossest, most disgusting rhetoric as they happily waved “Mass Deportation Now” signs. This idea that these either venomous or willfully ignorant fucks voted the embodiment of the seven deadly sins into office knowing full well who he is because they’re stressed (as though we aren’t!) is another fucking con. Masks are off, folks. No more excuses. And let me add- all of the Trumpers I know personally are well off and not struggling at all.
How many turd voters are charging groceries on credit cards bc of their truck pmt on a lifted F150 that cost $75,000+? The ins & gas must be a bitch. Make better financial decisions.
They did selective listening. When he said something unspeakably cruel, they said awww, he's not going to do that he's going to do this (slightly less cruel) thing. Stephen Miller was just announced as assistant policy director. The cruelty Trump promised has just been amped up to 15.
And you never did one stupid thing in your whole life? It's called trial and error and most of us have done it. Read the Robert Reich piece and see if most trump supporters are doing OK.
Is this snark? Because, yes, I’ve done so many stupid things in my life that I’ve lost count. However, I never did something stupid that would result in mass suffering, the destruction of democracy, the normalization of rape, theft, cruelty, greed, oppression, bigotry and the flouting of basic human decency. This was a choice between democracy and fascism, decency and amoral cruelty… are you excusing this? Are you excusing this as just a silly mistake? I really hope you’re joking.
no snark at all. I voted for Harris, knowing that there would be no guarantee that she would cease arms sales to Israel. It is highly probable that the genocide in Gaza will continue. And I voted for that. So that makes ME voting for probable genocide with complete deliberation. That's worse than voting for genocide by mistake.
It is very hard to be completely pure and avoid every single mistake in this world. Some people think since Trump is such a big liar, he's lying about his plans. I don't know if they're right. I hope he'll deport just a few thousand very dramatically and be done with it. After all, he can't deport them unless the country is willing to take them back. Mexico can send troops to the border and simply block deportation busses from mentoring. If an airplane full of deportees lands in a country in Central America, that government can simply order it to fly back where it came from. Trump's power is not unlimited.
It is not only highly probable that the genocide in Gaze will continue, it is guaranteed. In fact, with Netanyahu and his Kahanist thugs in charge the chance that there will be ANY Palestinians in Gaza left soon is slim to none. And the West Bank will be annexed very quickly. Your argument that you willingly voted for genocide by voting for Harris is absurd. She was the only chance that there might be some actual pushback against the Israelis. As a Jew, I say without hesitation that the current government of Israel is the greatest threat to the safety of Jews worldwide.
You can speculate all you want about what will or will not happen under Trump. Expect the worst. The original topic of our exchange was whether Trump voters voted for him because they were economically stressed or not, I said my piece. At this point, I can truly say that I forgive the Germans more than I will ever forgive American Trumpers for embracing evil, at least the Germans in the 30’s were experiencing real, crushing economic horrors and hardships. Americans during an economic upturn and the promise of real reforms offered by Harris willingly embraced the worst villainous waste of human flesh to ever darken the Oval Office. You want to make excuses for that? Have at it. It’s called “enabling”.
Please read at least one of the three articles that I suggested. If you only want to read one, read the second one by Robert Reich, and you will understand the point of view that I share with Secretary Reich. Jeff keeps telling us how dumb trumps followers are, and now you want to say they perfectly understand everything about Trump.
It’s a curious thing considering, dairy and farm products have immigrants to thank for seeing these products in their stores and on their tables.
Most of construction companies that built the homes they live in have immigrants to thank… our labor force is comprised of legal and illegal immigrants, period!!! Wake the fuck up you fucking immigrant hating morons!!Did any of the miasma of MAGA morons, ever use the scrambled grey matter between their ears to justify getting rid of 1/3 to 1/2 of the labor in America? Or who’s going to pick up the slack?
Having just had appendicitis (yes you don’t need to be under 30 to get it) I waited 18 hours for surgery. I was in a very upscale suburban hospital. The membrane sack had opened so I had contamination. So I was on a drip of antibiotics an hour for four of them four hours between each one.
If frump’s wet dreams come true, I would have been dead. I was in pain terribly sick.
WE WILL NOT LET THIS DERANGED IDIOT DO THIS TO OUR COUNTRY.
WE NEED TO FIGHT HIM TOOTH AND NAIL. WE CANNOT LOSE TIME
WE NEED TO MAKE OUR PLAN.
HIS FOLLOWERS ARE LOSERS. THEIR POOR SND STUPID LIVES ARE THEIR OWN DOING. GROW UP SHIT HEADS.
WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN. EVEN IF STUPID HEAD DIES OF HIS OWN BAD HEALTH SECOND STUPID HEAD IS WORSE.
Terry, sorry to hear you had a health crisis. Strangely enough, I had an attack of an infected gallbladder in October and was in the hospital for two days on an IV antibiotic.
I truly believe that if Trump tries to fuck up healthcare more than it is already, he'll have 80% of the country on his back. If you are on Medicare, consider moving to Houston TX because we have some of the best Medicare hospitals in the country. I'm on Memorial Hermann Medicare advantage. For reasons that are way too long to describe I have been in the hospital six times since March 2023. No serious complaints.
The MAGA map and the opioid addiction map are pretty much the same. Billionaires have ruined the lives of many in rural America but between their churches, Sinclair Broadcasting stations and Fox News, and a 5th rate state education system, they have no clue. We really need to start an EDUCATION campaign, somehow, once the economy starts crashing under Trump.
That’s already been done Kathleen. The Dems also had a great solution for immigrants that RescumliCons rejected because it would look good for Joe. They refuse to be educated, they don’t accept fact. Jesus, you should be on to that by now!
No!!! There is no comprehensive economic plan for the flyover states. Obamacare gave everyone half-assed health care that is still unaffordable for most people, but there is no guarantee of job retraining for every single adult in the United States.
I agree that there was a good immigration plan that Trump torpedoed, but neither Biden nor Obama guaranteed job training to every American adult.
Turd wants to eliminate the Dept of Education. We already rank in a bad place as far as literacy, math, etc. At least we won't have a wealthy person to lead it. Last admin he had Betsy DeVos trying for four years to undermine education. BTW, Betsy De Vos's brother is Eric Prince.
For a year I had to live in strong maga territory. "Home schooling" was big. Both parents worked, so the kids rode their expensive dirt bikes all day. Half the kids who I'd say hi to at the mailbox, were bright, nice kids. The older kids, middle school aged, were rude and surely, and seemed dumb as a box of rocks.
I also use a cash back credit card for groceries. However, I don't think that's what the Democratic congresswoman meant. I think these people are paying interest on their groceries.
But “ the govt” was trying to pass anti-price gouging legislation that every GOP objected to. But they lied to their voters. And now the voters will continue to suffer. Just WAIT until medicare and veterans checks stop coming bc he puts in some incompetent hater or his billionaire says so.
I feel exactly the same!! My whole state is MAGA basically!! My friend told me her friends who are Mexican, US citizen ship were verbally assaulted in the grocery store because they were speaking Spanish by a white MAGA Big mouth bitch!! It’s happening here already!
with you ! all the way.... wish I had neighbors like you I could visit :-) even right here in SoCal it feels awkward...they had a Trump celebration (informal) parade in Santa Monica....it was just so sickening to see so many who support a racist, fascists, rapist felon.
It's one thing to think that he only has 4 years and he is gone, it's another that he may not ever be gone, now.
Thanks Susan, it’s unfathomable that people would vote against their own interests, agreed! Having decided to quit banging my head against invincible ignorance, I’ve decided to just roll with it!
There are plenty of amazing places to hang your hat in this world, I’ve explored many, and haven’t ruled out an exodus from the contempt, greed and ignorance of this country… save for multiple war fronts I’ve been involved with for decades, with little resolve… my kids and grandkids!
Every day I think about the fact that Trump was never prosecuted for his crimes and so many people are ignorant to the monster he truly is. Kamala could have done a better job messaging about his crimes and the fuckery of his last presidency as well. She could have fought better against all of the things Trump was saying in his ads about her. There was never any push back and it was infuriating. I watch mostly recorded shows (especially during election season) but when I would visit my friends and family the commercials were never ending about KAMALA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF GROCERIES the OPEN BORDER the TRANS OPERATIONS the THOUSANDS OF IMMIGRANT MURDERERS and on and on and on ad nauseum. Less talk about mother and auntie would have been better. Maybe.
I too am very concerned with the marginalized people that this will affect starting January 20, until then I hope the Biden administration does what they can to protect our democracy from the incels that will soon be running it.
It looks like we will lose the House as well so it's going to be a rough 2 years.
"Vivek Ramaswamy on Dreamers: “if your first act of entering this country broke the law, that doesn’t allow you to remain in this country. you have no right to enter the United States illegally.”
Old Carrot Top needs to reign in his crew. They’re all talking like they are the President elect. Of course he might be in LaLa Land most of the time anyway.
It's really a shame when two of the biggest turds in the punchbowl like Musk and Rancidswampy continue to push their racist agenda without any consequential backlash. What about Melania? She lied about her status when entering the US but the hypocrisy of the GOP will continue to let people like her and Musk slide like it never happened. My heart goes out to the millions of hard working Hispanics who face a very uncertain future. because of the twisted direction of a demented madman.
Speaking of Melanoma, did you hear or see where Putin congratulated trump on his election by releasing nude photos of Melanoma back in the day? Oh yes. trump has been totally poned by the puppet master superior.
You’re no doubt right about that. She doesn’t care but Putin was trolling us, his new vassals, by parading our rerun first lady’s(as if!)*P,T & A all during the entire segment.
It would also be interesting to know if there were any “special“ circumstances for when his paternal grandfather, his mother, and his first wife came to the USA. They were immigrants as well
That guy Vivek, emphasis on the "ek", is the second most repulsive person in that MAGA cult in a tie with Stephen (Goebbels)Miller, Steve (Scarface)Bannon, Roger (The Penquin) Stone.
I heard that interview on c-span radio. You missed the most important part, at the end when the interviewer was hopefully trying to get off the same air waves and closing out with the proverbial “ BEY BEY NOW” Romaswampass interrupted and gave his final thought. He said Your missing the most important deportations, the burro-crates in Washington that are not with us
The truth is when they complain about immigrants, they only mean "certain" immigrants. Like everything else, if your skin is the right color, you get a pass.
The young children did not act to enter this country. No babies deliver themselves, do they, Vivek. Only Trump has the right to break the law, not those other people.
A substantial percentage of the health care professionals and first responders during the Covid crisis were Dreamers. They were actually doing some good for the people of this country, unlike Ramaswamy, who only made healthcare more unavailable.
So can we talk about something? Trump has declared that he will support a Senate Majority Leader only if he agrees to bypass the Senate confirmation processes for all of his nominees. You know, the whole "advise and consent" thing in the Constitution that gives that power to the legislative branch?
And the 3 leading candidates for the Majority Leader all said "Sure, boss, will do."
If there was any doubt that Republican legislators have ceded their power to an autocrat, this is it. And barely a mention from the media.
This while Trump also announced that his calls with foreign leaders will not include any other US officials, just him. "Sure, boss", they say.
Not even a whisper of resistance. Checks and balances is so old school. Who needs it when you have Trump?
An army of lemmings is dashing off the cliff and they are dragging us behind with barely a whimper. I both fear and wish for a national divorce. Surely there are blue staters who long to live in red states and red staters like me who long to be away from the rethugs. We need some seriously good lawyers to figure out a way to effect this migration without resorting to civil war.
I fear we are not seeing just how quickly the move to authoritarianism is accelerating and once new norms have been established, it's very, very difficult to re-establish the old ones. I am not optimistic about the future of American democracy.
You need to put this out on X - and let me know if and when it gets published. Great point and I especially like the one you made about crickets from the free press. Excellent work.
KO in LA, the Senate Majority leader is chosen by vote of the Republican Senators. Yes, Trump is saying this, but he is asking the Senate to give up one of its important powers. Whether a majority of R senators will accept this, we shall see.
Seriously, does anyone see this senate resisting Trump’s command? The 3 candidates for Majority Leader have already agreed & I haven’t heard a peep from any other Republicans. There will be no Republican pushback. Zero. Nada.
Many people in drumph’s prior administration were given security clearances when it was recommended they not get them: Ivanka and Jared for example??!!!
Yes. And now he’s talking about doing his own checks. So basically telling us straight out he will pick who he wants & no one else will be involved ed with getting, security clearances or Senate confirmation. Imagine the depths of shamelessness for Republican Senators to cede all of their Article 1 powers and agree to let this guy govern like a dictator.
Never will forgive the seditious conspirators. Never will forgive the selfish assholes who feel so entitled. Never ever will forgive the cruelty. Never.
A solemn Veterans Day. Important, sure, but, no, I cannot be wishing a Happy Veterans Day.
A solemn and grateful Veterans Day for all those who honorably and selflessly served our nation. Even those who somehow voted for that traitorous insurrectionist who thinks they and all veterans are suckers and losers. But for their support of him, I will never forgive them.
Jeff, Here’s an idea. At the next gathering of the Heritage Foundation or any other Fascist event, we sweep through and deport them! Let them enjoy the leader they love…Putin.
Meanwhile, Blue states must coalesce to block every damn Fascist idea trump tries to implement. California is the 5th largest economy internationally! Far bigger than Canada and many other countries around the Globe. Let’s have Blue states come together to send this..Fuck around and Find Out message!
With all combined the blue states combined, they far outweigh the economies of the red states. Without what they contribute to the federal government those states would go bankrupt. But for some reason many voted for a man out to destroy our economy. I live in MA so the effect will not be seen for some time since it as blue as a blue state gets. Our governor, just like Newsom has already stated she will not comply. Same for NY, IL, Minnesota, and many other blue governors.
And Elizabeth Warren in one of mine. And my governor is Maura Healy. Plus Massachusetts is surrounded by blue states with strict gun laws. I have a feeling school shootings may become a thing here though. I am in mourning for my country.
I agree. I know Sen Booker has compassion for all because he doesn’t eat animals. He’s super smart, he speaks Spanish, & I would vote for him for president
Same in Maryland, where we have a Black governor and have just elected a Black woman as one of our senators. Feels like an island of sanity in the midst of madness.
Jacqueline..My governor (IL) has very forcefully put notice out that IL will not comply with Fascist demands! He already called a Special Session to lock in certain protections. According to Scott Dworkin, he has contacted each Governor in Blue states to coordinate.
The red states may think they’ll survive with the military complex. But only the very highly intelligent are necessary to create the kind of military systems we have. This will become another way to subvert trump’s Fascist agenda.
They are already forming a coalition to resist his worst policies, and to protect the most vulnerable among us. Attorney Generals are preparing lawsuits against the upcoming administration. We have some guardrails still in place.
I live in a red state, unfortunately and I sure don’t hate you!! Why do you think that? I lived in California for awhile when I was younger. I have cousins who I love there!
Great idea for Blue states to coalesce! That also happened during COVID, when turn & POS son-in-law prioritized red states & RUSSIA. We'll never know which other turd friendly countries he traded favors for in exchange for PPE, vents, tests.
There were tens of millions of us living in red states who voted blue up and down the ticket. I’m happy for the blue states governors protecting their constituents. Can they protect us too??
Trisha, Blues states have proclaimed themselves sanctuary states so good people from red states can come to these states if they need an abortion or other treatment they can’t get in their state. However, this is the best way for MAGAts to see the advantages of Blue State policies. Then, of course, they’ll want them. The best thing to happen would be for them to turn on their own. But that would take years because of their cult lifestyle preventing them from seeing the obvious.
One week, he’s saying the immigrants are eating our pets, the next week he’s 😍 Arnold Palmer’s genitalia. The week after that, he’s the president elect of the US. I’m going to have to go ahead and demand an explanation here.
Democrats- for Veteran’s Day…Flag at half mast as an apology to those who fought, were injured or died to destroy fascism. What a disgrace for Veteran’s Day this year and onward.
There is no reason that investigations on this election should not be going on now. Do another first in history…cancel them out.
I am deeply grateful that my FIL isn't here. He was wounded 2x in WWII as a forward artillery observer (called in coordinates for attacks), and deeply hated fascism. I feel the need to visit his grave and apologize for not doing more to stop this mess.
Unfortunately, we have lost nearly all of our WWII veterans who saw and fought against fascism. My father was among them. American shallowness and smugness has led to entitlement, making grievance politics so damn effective. Apparently resentment over immigrants and rising prices is more important than resisting open fascism here in our own country. It certainly is disrespectful to your FIL, my father, and all who were the original antifa.
My father too, from Belgium to France to Germany, army corps of engineers. Building and blowing up bridges, sometimes under fire. All he talked about were the children left in the wake of fascism. We’re going to see some of the same here on our soil, children in the wake of fascism, just like we did in the first bolloxed up immigration ‘plan’. And now, I’m telling my granddaughters to write down the names of their Latino friends if they disappear from their classrooms.
I have one great uncle and two uncles who served in the Navy during WWII; my FIL and his brother were both Marines during the second WW.
I am so ashamed of this country for electing that filthy orange piece of rotted manure--Trump spits on sacrifice and honor because he has none himself. Nor does Trump have even a semblance of conscience or a moral code of any kind. He is toxic filth; corrupt from young manhood on, thanks to his father and his mentor Roy Cohn.
Trump enjoys inflicting cruelty and delights in chaos, so we can expect a horror filled period of time to come.
Probably a biplane, possibly with floats. I knew a friend who did that. He catapulted off of a heavy cruiser, then landed on the sea and was winched up by a hook on top of the plane. He said he flew a Curtiss SOC Seagull.
Thanks but I have been told it was probably a Coreus something. I know it wasn't a biplane. It was the last of the cloth covered planes. He just wouldn't talk about it. I just know he loved being a daredevil.
My father-in-law would never talk to his wife or kids about his experiences. It took our son asking him what he did in the war. The floodgates opened, and our son learned a TON about WWII, what Grandpa did, and how freakin' scary that had to have been. Gramps' purple heart is in a shadow box with his other military awards, he was a true American hero.
I almost didn't read Jeff this morning. I'm so, so afraid of what is going to happen to helpless people. It's quite rich that Vivek, an immigrant or child of immigrants thinks that all illegals should be sent to relocation camps. I keep thinking about Melania and the "Skills" she brought to America. Her skills were so awesome that she earned an Einstein visa. Never did need to learn to speak English. Her "skills" saved her from that. I'm just going to clean out my freezer. That will make me feel better.
I read that Russian television has been celebrating Trump's win and broadcasting photos of Melania in the nude from her "self-expression" days. So there's that ...
arne That asswipe was born in Ohio to immigrant parents. I don't think the dumpers will care, he's brown and has a foreign name....I'd say good LUCK with that, they don't care about explanations.
Something to emphasize when you talk about dreamers and other undocumented people who contribute to America by paying taxes. They don’t just pay income taxes, they also have social security and Medicare taxes deducted from their paychecks. Even though they will probably never be able to receive any of those benefits. So if you want to bankrupt social security, go ahead…deport a bunch of immigrants!
As an environmental scientist and life long natural historian, I appreciate your screen name. That being said, it is difficult not to despair, know what the environment has for us in the near future
I became a paid subscriber just now so I could reply to your comment. I homeschool my daughter, and it's certainly not "child abuse" as Kristy said below.
She's 8 years old and supposed to be in 3rd grade. However, she's one of the smartest kids I've ever known and is doing 6th grade curriculum this year. She's also neurodiverse. We were told by our public school system that her giftedness AND need for an IEP couldn't both be accommodated. So, we made the choice to begin homeschooling her during Covid.
I can assure you she's getting an amazing, secular, inclusive, non-whitewashed education. If you were to have a conversation with her, you'd never know she was 8. She wants to be an ornithologist when she grows up and thus plans to pursue a doctorate degree. She vehemently despises Trump and other Rs...to the point that she is terrified about the future of our country and planet and will say as much to your face if you're wearing MAGA gear lol.
Please reconsider the view that all homeschoolers are the same.
I’m sure many of us on Jeff’s site are intelligent enough to understand that not all home schooling is bad. It has gotten a horrible name because so many who homeschool are the ultra religious who don’t want their children to learn anything that isn’t their religious indoctrination, &/or those that don’t want their kids being required to be vaccinated to attend public schools. Also, many states do very little to zero oversight of homeschooling to make sure the kids will be able to function in the rest of society.
It seems implied by your comment that homeschooling is “bad,” but I’ll bite. Why do you not ever want to hear the word homeschooling again? Tone is often misinterpreted online, so perhaps that’s the case here.
Heather, good for you. My niece home schooled all four of her kids. She was not about to put them in a dumb institution. She had the good fortune of being a teacher prior to having kids. They all turned out to be thinkers. Imagine that.
But if the Trump thugs dismantle the US Dept. of Education, it will fall to the states to structure their own educational systems. Liberal parents in red states may need to home school their young uns as an alternative to nonstop bible study, zero science and no fact-based learning.
See my reply to Permian Extinction. Your comment is disgusting and paints a broad group of people with the same brush. Many of us care more about the proper education of our children than those who send their kids to public schools.
And good advice on self-care, the road ahead will require a strong resistance: we have to defend those most vulnerable while driving momentum for the 2026 elections (if there are mid-terms). And the democratic party apparatus needs some innovation beyond “well 50 fundraising emails a day didn’t work, let’s go with 75!”.
Dems misunderstood how susceptible Americans are to the immigration lies and constant whining about inflation. The power of gaslighting grievances proved much stronger than hope, tolerance, and actual policy. For as long as I live, I will be stunned at how well his lies and lack of any real ideas worked. Not to mention his inestimable past misdeeds.
Does Joe Rogan spend any time reading, listening, and thinking? He wishes trump would not act as trump always does and has. Yeah, sure. That Rogan has such popularity is another huge indication of why America is so stupid.
The part I got stuck on was consent. Think of it as a body.. so if I get pregnant without consent, by his logic I should be able to get that body (fetus) out of my body (country)?
I wake up every morning with dread and panic. Fear. I look at others wondering… are you a Trumper? I won’t trust anyone who is. Our lives have been destroyed by a criminal and they cheer for him. WTF? We’ve become a willfully shithole country and thank god for communities like this where I don’t feel so alone. ✌️
Feel the same. And I am with Cory Booker. We have each other. And each of us has something indestructible within that is good. We can support each other in fostering that goodness. That's all that's certain. But that's a lot.
I’m all in with Cory Booker. I don’t feel personally afraid of maga, but I do feel afraid and compassion for those who are going to be affected by their cruel immigration policies. I have friends who are immigrants and they are getting ready now to go back to their homelands no matter the circumstances there. I see the fear in them.
My husband is Mexican and was born in the United States. He faced racism most of his young life and suddenly is feeling it again.
God damn trump and those who voted for him.
Let’s hold each other up and tight.
And resist we must.
Most often the blue state governor’s are voicing their defiance to Trump’s deportation plans, I know mine has said as much!
Yes, I live in California! 💪🏼
Governor Inslee in WA and governor -elect Ferguson ditto. They're also ready to defend against gutting of lands-for-bros.
What do you mean by "gutting of lands-for-bros"?
Investors who want to develop green spaces. And build more high rises that no one buys, but they still make money. Happens to all big cities.
Good for them 👍💪
Resist? How?
Newsom is holding a meeting with the state assembly on 12/2. CA is the 5th largest economy driver in the world. I am praying that he gets the state legislators (majority are Dems) to withhold federal taxes. That way we would be able to protect our migrant workers and immigrants because the money would be there. CA, on the average, pays over $200 billion each year. We have 40 million people here. If that money is withheld, the feds have to reach into their own pockets to run the country. CA would put a HUGE dent into the Maga system.
Wouldn't turd retaliate by stopping SS & disability pmts?
Unfortunately, that won't work. The retaliation would be fierce and harmful to the citizenry.
It’s going to mostly come down to law. Constitutional lawyers laying out game plans to turn things over and block. Project Democracy has been working for this past year (or more) anticipating legal moves and defenses.
And MAGAts are already feeling buyers remorse as they begin to realize just what Trump's plans would mean for them. It isn't good. The brighter buttons among them may also realize that once they have voted this monster in and given him what he wants he will turn to is real base: the wealthiest in the country. Trump wasn't kidding when he told them that he didn't care about them--he just wanted their vote.
I am very glad to hear that>. I knew there had to be think tanks figuring all of the scenarios out in advance.
We need to remember the other 72mil of us, Kamala showed us who we are in alignment with. Only 1/3 of the adult population voted for trump, 1/3 didn't or couldn't vote, so keep asking people what they think about these kinds of changes and we might find ourselves with unlikely but many more allies than we think we have now. I'm not giving up on the poor stupid fuckers who voted for him because eventually many of them will come crawling in regret when it sucks for them too, and we only need to peel off a few million....
I think you are right. AND just how efficient and BRAVE and smart do think frump voters would be? 😆
How can we use this … now? I am serious. 🧐
See the link below re estimated cost of mass deportations as immigration reform policy and use those phrases when posting on your socials. Deportations will cripple major sectors of the economy that most people want to function (food and construction) they just don't know it yet. Poor stupid suckers. Keep your head up and don't give people who don't know any better more power than they have usurped already. Just sticking with the facts will help. People in Congress are going to reach a point where it's going to be hard to justify the effects of what they've done and we just need to be ready to say 'told you so' with legitimate information that mirrors REALITY.
It won't take long for people to realize just how damaging his mass deportation promises to be--if he can actually do it. '28 will be a repeat of '20. People will revolt against the economic chaos, the incompetence and the corruption and kick these MAGAs out of office.
Build a network of rebels.
How long will it take for Team Trump to trash the economy again, knowing that economic stability and growth is usually sustained for a decent amount of time after elections Anne?
Elon was happily proclaiming a couple weeks ago, making it clear he wants to crash our economy and rebuild from the ashes.
Sure you will, you weird egomaniac. You think all the other egomaniacs Trump surrounded himself with are going to let you?
Yes
Hey, I just had a thought - if deportations carry such a high fiscal burden (approx $180b/yr) is there any possibility they will use deportations as 'show' to scare the crap out of people and convince those in opposition that the gvmt will be coming for us if we step out of line - and then not carry the whole policy through because it will cripple food production and construction? We need independent reporting to suss out what's really happening and who's really in charge besides Elon. I think the plundering is going to happen on many fronts, but I'm prepared for anything in front of us to also be a distraction from something more important to them.
Oh the economy trashing will happen because he's such a stupid fucker he's going to let Musk break the bank, but just the threat of tariffs is having an effect on large and small businesses that rely on Chinese goods to function snd profit snd leaders are explaining to their employees that they aren't getting Christmas bonuses this yr because of the threat of tariffs - so it's possible this sharp tack away from stability motivated fiscal policy will have more immediate effects than we are used to and the hangover effect will be erased. I agree economics is the hardest thing for people to grasp. Having something like this to share with your friends and family on socials might wake them up to the pending econ reality of a $88b cost to deport 1m 'illegals' and the lost tax revenue that 'illegals' pay without getting a vote (also near 100b/yr), and the rich are getting a massive tax break on day 1 - if people do the 7th grade math they can see for themselves. It's dicey because pmthe dawn comes slowly for some but the most effective counter will be their own voters being unhappy with what they do, no? https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation
What makes Musk think he can wipe 2-3 Trillion off the books? He won't be able to touch the military, which eats up a large proportion of the budget. Knowing Republicans, he'll look to the already tattered social safety net, and the blowback will be huge.
I would be surprised if there wasn't a major across the board freak out if they started messing in with SSA/SSDI and theres already intentions to beef up military and give tax breaks upward, and waste money on deportations instead of schools, so a balanced budget only seems possible with super draconian cuts and there is something in all of these plans that hurts nearly everyone who voted gop. The one silver lining is that if they are in control of everything and things go south for the true majority of people, there will be backlash they won't be able to pin on anyone else.
Drug induced hallucinations?
Team Booker, reporting for duty, sir. All in and so appreciate the wonderful message.
The mornings are the worst...
Sleeping (or lack thereof) has been the worst for me. Even if I can force my conscious brain to focus elsewhere, my subconcious refuses to comply.
All I want to do is sleep 😴
That’s me.
Ditto
And eat. Bad stuff…
Same.
I’m getting all my gummies tomorrow..I need to sleep.. I’m exhausted by the Orange Shitstain and his groupies..
I am old and out of the loop. What do you all mean by gummies?
And, the Republicans have won, not exactly fair and square, but it reminds me of that H.L. Mencken said:
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." When they come crawling back to say they made a mistake, tell them to go fuck themselves. Jeff knows.
CBD THC gummies. I’m a lifelong insomniac and Alzheimer’s runs in my family. Which is now type3 diabetes.. and I’m already type2 so if you don’t sleep and you have a cluster of other issues.. then you have a much higher chance of Alzheimer’s. My mom was diagnosed at age 60 she’s now 92 she lost her entire mind by 65.. in 5 years she was completely gone..
Omg, I’m so sorry.💔
I’m so sorry to read that. Even if you’re not directly involved in her day-to-day care, that’s a heart burden. Indeed, go for sleep!😴
I am so sorry about your Mom 😢
I am SO SORRY! Sleep is just so important!!
Got enough for 3 months!! Thank you 🙏🏽 I’m sleeping tonight!!!
I’m certainly a member of your camp Koko, sleep has never been easy unless I’m an exhausted puddle on the floor, I hear you!
Gummies from Tillman's Tranquils. I need one to relax me enough to FINALLY fall asleep. 🙄
They work for me thank god.
Damn. They really don't work for me. I can't smoke weed anymore. That helped. I have resorted to drugs, as in pills.
My nurse practitioner finally gave me generic Klonopin for insomnia. First she ran me thru months of herbal OTC then worthless RXs. Only after every single one failed was she "in compliance with clinic rules" for generic Klonopin.
Thx gummies don't work for you? There are three types: Sativa (makes you energetic); Indica (for sleep); and #3 Hybrid. Make sure you're getting INDICA, which will put you to sleep.
Yes Terry.. IN DA COUCH that’s what I remember you telling me and that’s what I stocked up on!! Thank you!! That was the best way to remember and I don’t remember shit these days..
Oh, wow....I'm sorry. Maybe you need to look into the type of gummy...Ive had some that were just like smoking. And they knocked me for a loop! YIKES! 😂
Thanks Teri and Susan. I have finally resorted to trazadone. It's an anti-depressant that kept just putting people to sleep. One of the many useless antidepressants. It does work for sleep.
I think I need to try stronger gummies, for sanity.
Those gummies are so nice 😊 I like indica w/cbd & thc!
Low Dose Naltrexone ( I’m a sugar fiend) Keeps me from craving sugar but it mashes me sleepy and Ativan since my anxiety is now next level.. and a lot of CBD/CBN I remember someone here told me to get Indica “ in da Couch” it’s perfect !! I actually slept last night. Fucking miracle!
I've been taking trazodone for some time. In higher, more therapeutic doses, it's an antidepressant. In the dose I take, it enables me to fall asleep and stay asleep. I've been taking it for years, after I developed a problem falling and staying asleep. Works like a charm, isn't habit-forming and has no side effects. And it's cheap.
I just watch foreign movies and streaming at night. I can go to sleep and pretend I am not HERE
I’m awake most of the night and sleep ALL day. Sit on my phone constantly. Depression meds are not helping. Going to look into gummies. One for energy and one to sleep.
Strangely, I am sleeping, but no longer dreaming.
It’s helpful to have chores that require your attention Sally, like the dog staring me down at the foot of my bed at 5:30 am every day, along with a daily workout to follow. Find a routine, something easy like reading Jeff’s posts daily, and get involved in community is about all I can share. I do wish everyone here, find peace in a time of such madness and chaos!
What's not helpful is having to go to work and be surrounded by Trumpists, including the owners. It was bad enough during COVID, but this is going to be a deal breaker. I'm planning to retire in a couple of months. But I swear to Gawd that if that one particular partner comes to gloat at me, I will grab my purse and walk out without saying a word of good-bye.
Marian I’m sending you love sister!! And a huge hug. I completely understand.. client came in and started in on me about how great that Orange Shitstain is.. opened the door back up and told her to find someone else to work with.. I will not have someone in my studio that I will have to work on for 4 hours and listen to her praise that racist POS.. when I’m Native Hawaiian..🖕🏽fuck MAGAts
I just LOVE thew name, The Orange Shitstain."
Let's keep up the name-calling, even if it isn't in the Democrat playbook.
👍👍👍👍
I don't know your situation to come up with something, but if it were me, I would consider a one line zinger as the door closes behind you - probably could find a few quips on here that may fit. Years ago, I left a job after only a few months due to multiple concerns with the management. The head manager, when I walked in one day and surprised him with my immediate resignation, retaliated with, "glad to see you go" as I walked out. I responded with, "yes, so am I, the management here has so many deficits," as I shut the door. I still grin when I remember his startled look. Enjoy your retirement!
Mine is a little complicated. My husband is a manager here, and though he's not full MAGA, he did vote for Trump (yes, it's caused a lot of strain in our marriage) and he absolutely won't take my side against his boss (another strain in the relationship). I'm retiring, but he has no plans to. Me walking out will make a statement and probably get me a lame apology, but if I cap it with a great zinger, it would probably do more damage to my marriage than this job.
That is more complicated when spouses work together! I hope it all works out for your peace of mind. Take care.
I’m so sorry.. my hubby is a libertarian which is far right. He didn’t vote for the Orange Shitstain.. which saved our relationship.. he could be lying.. but he’s a Virgo.. brutally honest.. they are not easy to live with.. but both my parents also Virgos.. God help me
I’m sorry for saying, it sounds pretty damaged already!! Is it worth it?
How bout don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.. buh bye 👋🏽
I’m trying to find my spin bike.. I’m hoping it’s in my shipping container.. if not I’m gonna have to fork over to get another one.. this BS is keeping me up all night long and I’ve got to exhaust myself and take copious amounts of THC : CBD to knock me on my ass to sleep thru the night.. right now I’m barely human with 3 hours of sleep a night.. no ..walking doesn’t work well when your in wet heavy assed snow.. and you are from the tropics..fvck I’m exhausted
Oh please let me know how that goes!! I’m going to a different lab that does Alzheimer’s genetic testing. My mom’s full blown.. and I’m so shot from this election cycle I’m just exhausted so I’m being proactive..
My dog and cat are staring me down right now.. the lab is sacked out in the front of the wood stove.. all I hear is a western music when about to duel
That was nice of you 😁
Yes, excellent advice.
They are the worst! I gotta work to shake it off. :(
I’ve got faith in your resolve Susan, we’ll all find the port through the storm!
Yes, waking up I check the news to see if the unhealthy FG is dead…then, a bit bummed out, I go on with my day…
I haven't watched the 'news' or looked at a newspaper headline (other than those posted here) since Tuesday.
I'm confident that when Dumpty croaks I'll get a phone call. That'll do.
And you, sir, win the Common Sense Award in the approach to the next 4 years and 2 months. Just say NO to TV news programs. I haven't missed a thing in the last 4 years from simply checking in on an online news aggregator a few times a day for any 'breaking' new headlines and reading the opinions of a select few writers (like Jeff) to get some semblance of the zeitgeist. Recommend reading a couple non-US news and opinion sites from here on, for as Jeff says, the Mainstream Corporate Media is back on its lucrative 24 hour a day trumpwatch.
He’s a useful idiot, who’s nearly outlived his usefulness… considering his drug addled brain has short circuited so many times of late, I can’t imagine he’ll be around long RZ!
Me, too. “Wishin’ and hopin’ 🎶🎵” but then he’s not, and then a deep sigh of “oh well.”
Russian joke, soon to be an American joke:
A guy goes to a kiosk, buys a paper, glances at the front page, and tosses it in the trash. The next day, he does the same thing. The third day, the proprietor can't help but ask "Why do you buy the paper if you don't want to read it?"
"I'm just checking the obituaries."
"Huh? The obituaries aren't on the front page."
"Oh, the one I'm looking for will be."
I keep hoping every single day that I will wake up and the orange shitstain will be dead. It’s just a matter of time. But then there is shady Vance and all his crap. Death is almost too good for both of them.
The mornings are the worst. Except for the nights.
It’s okay to feel angry and untethered, but you cannot, must not, give up! I discovered that my grandson voted for him, but he is too young to remember what happened 8 years ago. He, too, will suffer under a regime whose policies will make life more difficult for all of us. It won’t be easy, but like my Senator, Cory Booker said, our resistance to the upcoming administration begins now. We can and will continue to fight the worst of his policies. There are still guardrails that the president* cannot destroy. The only way out of this is through it. It will be very bumpy, so fasten your seatbelts, but we will come out stronger on the other side.
I love you Sharon and appreciate you so much. I’ve had tears in my eyes every day. Your sentiments are so helpful. 💙💙💙💙✌️
Very frickn bumpy!! I still won’t watch the news and I plan on never watching it again!!
Same.
Same here. I am on a permanent boycott.
Maybe Kamala's words still are prescient -- when we fight we win!
They are! If you’re lucky to live in a State that has publicly stated they will fight him, then that means they’re fighting for its citizens and our sacred democracy. Groups are organizing for rallies and other activities. A google search will help you find them near you. The Woman’s March is scheduled for inauguration day in DC and will be announcing other State capitol buildings in the very near future.
I’ve been donating what I can to the ACLU who will be crucial in helping. (I know the word donation is probably not what you want to hear)
There will be many ways to resist that will surface very soon.
Resisting also means doing what Cory Booker said. Continue to love each other. Continue to love and support your family and friends in this grieving process and then continue on with your life as best you can as you did before this election.
Not watching the news anymore is going to help me.
Fear is exactly what they want. They see power and weakness in fear.
After your grieving is over get back into life, your community, volunteer, take up a new hobby, and/or anything else that makes you feel better. Then you might be ready to participate in resisting and maybe it will be passive resistance.
Remember love always wins.
Many blessings to everyone. 🫶🏼✌🏽
I thought the Women's March in DC is scheduled for Saturday, January 18, 2025? And there will be plenty of marches the same day at the state level and local level?
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a62829447/next-womens-march-2024-election/
I marched with them in 2019 with my two adult daughters. I don’t plan attending this year because I feel it has less meaning. White women (not us here) did not support Black women this year at all. They are feeling the hurt and the pain. That’s why I will not march again but will take a backseat to anything they come up with.
Sadly, that phrase didn’t age well Tully!!
Nicely said Sharon!
I’m hoping the guardrails won’t be dismantled..
They will be.
Thanks Sharon for the inspiring words.☺️. Your grandson is lucky to have a well educated person in his life. An open channel may give you both opportunities to chat calmly.
I’m a Jersey guy and I have your back! I’m not putting up with any bullshit from this incoming administration.
I had no idea that so many people would vote against their own interests.
I still wonder how much cheating went on with votes not counted because they disappeared.
I still think about moving out of here to a democratic country.
I mourn for the United States, but I also have read about the safe guards in Blue States and hope for the best. 💙
Susan, we will find out there has been significant tampering. I wish Harris hadn’t conceded yet.
Her concession doesn’t make any difference. If she hadn’t, she would be accused of sour grapes, she would have been as bad as he was the last time.
True, it doesn’t matter Sharon!
Soviet style perception management explains much of this election Seeking! Allison Gills Substack( Mueller She Wrote) offers helpful insights I’ve spoken of here many times… The Telecommunications Act Clinton signed in 96 led to unlicensed/unregulated access on the internet, an issue the FCC never addressed!
I do too.
I know a lot of people want to believe that the election was tampered with because it is easier than accepting that the majority of Americans no longer believe in decency. There is no evidence of it, and in a state like mine (Michigan) where Democrats are thoroughly in control of the process it is not plausible.
Conceded or not, until Dec 12 or whatever that date is, if significant tampering is found to Change The Outcome, it may not matter
I live in the deep south. They are letting us know loud and clear exactly who they voted for. I prefer it this way. It gives me time to get away from them. I had a mad red hatter pull up and block the exit from my car screaming, " You drive an Obama car!' I have a Honda with zero bumper stickers.
OMG. They are insane. 😳
This might make some folks uncomfortable, but consider arming yourself. These assholes want open carry, so now it can bite them in the ass!!😡😡😡
Ooh Boy...now we're living in the Wild West. My friend insists that I become familiar and comfortable with firearms. :(
NFW. I will never own a gun!
It’s ok Susan it’s a choice. You don’t have to be a gun owner.
That’s fine. That’s your choice. I’m
Not talking an assault rifle.
I think it depends on where you live. I have never owned one. But times have changed. And the nearest blue state is 800 miles away. I have no choice but to get armed.
I live in a red state unfortunately!!
I’m in a blue area thankfully, but have signed up for the classes to see if I could really do it. I don’t know.
I’ve had one for yrs!!
I’m
Very comfortable especially now!!
Yup right on Doreen!!
I had to take Marksmanship in high school (military academy). I had trouble hitting the target at all, let alone anywhere near the center. I have never touched a gun since and know that I would never be any good with one.
No guns for me. I’m still thinking about moving out of this soon to be fascist hell hole. 😢
It's good to have a "friend" or two.
I hate guns, I don’t want a gun, but I agree with you on this!
I encourage everyone to get a gun.
Charlie ..armed.. very very well armed.. everything is stored in my gun safe.. just finished cleaning every single one
Those who aren't experienced should consider a 12 gauge shotgun. If you can point, you can use it. Civil War artillery doctrine: double canister clears your front.
If you're going to get a gun and aren't familiar with firearms, for heaven's sake get some training. Otherwise, you may end up being more of a danger to yourself than anyone else.
OMG, when was this? How scary to be aggressively confronted! Hope you are feeling ok. 👫👫👫👫🇺🇸
Yikes! Honda’s and Toyota’s are the most American made vehicles on the road, that’s some kind of ponderous shit J!!
And I thought Subaru's were the car of the NPR-listening, white-wine-drinking, educated elites.
Oh dear God they’re fvcking insane.. you drive what works for you and your family and what you can afford.. i drive a Nissan.. the stupidity of MAGAts😵💫 did those fvckers inbreed with a damn moldy assed gerbil?!?! Sorry gerbils
😂😂😂
Good they didn’t meet me. I would just love to have a little brainy chat with them.
Susan, me too. I go to the market, the coffee shop, the gym, on a walk along the river. My brain is ‘that looks like a trumper, I’ll be that’s a trumper.’ I’m going to wear my Kamala shirt so folks know who I am.
I find myself more distrustful of people than ever. 😩
It’s not surprising. These folks broke the social contract. And then there’s The Rule of Law. They broke it, and only we can fix it.
I assume that anyone that I encounter is the enemy.
I fear for the younger women and the "your body, my choice" new mantra. Rape statistics went up quite a bit in Texas after their anti-abortion law passed. Haven't seen some of the other red state statistics yer.
All of us women of any age should be looking to buy pepper spray and have it on our keyrings. Rape isn't only about sex. It's about power too. So even if we're 5O, 60, or more. I have to find out if it's legal in my state.
It’s ALL about power and not sex. I am a survivor!
I do too...and I hate that! I keep my head down and move away.
God bless you Charlie!! Cause we’re at that point now..
I'm sure not happy about it. But I'm not going down without a Hell of a fight.
Amen Charlie!!
I know! Isn’t that sad to feel that way? I feel the same!
I drive a big old truck, which we bought for camping. It has a bumper magnet that reads ‘Sometimes a truck is just a truck’ so people don’t base who I am on my vehicle. It’s red but I’m blue. It’s old but so am I.
Bravo 🙌🏽 yeah we’ve got a few trucks too.. someone slapped a Maga sticker on the bumper of one of them and I lost my shit.. unfortunately hubby got the full blast of my anger..i spoke the obvious: you do know you’re married to a Native Hawaiian who isn’t full white.. right?!?! He got that off his truck pronto..
Oh shit!!😂
Sorry your truck was victimized (bad grammar, sorry).
This is priceless!!!!!😆👍🇺🇸
The pride in who you are Cassandra cannot be taken away by the willfully ignorant, good on you!!
Just be safe Cassandra. Those MAGAts are fvcking crazy
Same here. I look at everyone and think, are u a stupid dip shit trumper?
Appears that over half the denizens in this country are unctuous Trump derps Terri!
There's a movement to have non-MAGAt women wear a blue bracelet to identify themselves as a safe person to other people. I'm going to Michael's today to buy blue beads and start making bracelets for my friends.
Mary that’s a fabulous idea !! I think I actually have blue embroidery thread!! Hope it’s ok if I copy you. I want to make them for my girls and my clients who aren’t stupid drumpfytes
Please spread this message far and wide. BTW, Michael's has strings of beads on sale -- buy three and get three free. I like to use "Stretch Magic" jewelry cord to make bracelets. Just read the directions before you start if you decide to go that route. 💙
I also have some in my yarn pile.. my yarn has taken over the couch.. it’s huge.. I’ve been so anxious with Drumpf back in the WH and this voting season.. I’m crocheting and knitting like crazy..
I actually have that stretch magic jewelry cord in white and black..
I'm using the clear. I've made four bracelets so far.
Know that magats heard about it and call it funny and performative and have posted how they too will get blue beaded bracelets to “ F w the libs”
I had a repairman here on Friday and all I could think was "I bet he's a trumper." Constantly alert for clues. It feels like we are in a silent civil war.
😊😆😀😃😄😁😆🙃🤣☺️😜🤪😍
🧨🧨🧨🧨 DON'T MISS THIS!!! 💥💥💥💥💥
People in the heartland have real economic problems that the federal government has ignored. "People are putting their groceries on their credit card. No one is listening to anything else you say if you try to talk them out of their lived experiences with data points from some economists." Marie Gluesenkamp Perez. Democratic congresswoman
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/us/politics/marie-gluesenkamp-perez-interview.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
Robert Reich did a tour in 2015 where he saw Trumpism growing before his eyes.
https://robertreich.substack.com/p/the-root-of-trumpism
https://kathleenweber.substack.com/p/vanished-into-thin-air-where-did
So… they’re struggling to make ends meet and the answer is to elect a hate-mongering, racist, traitorous felon who tried to overthrow the government? Sorry, plenty of people who voted AGAINST giving our country over to a bunch of evil goons are also struggling to make ends meet. I watched with my own eyes how Trumpers laughed and shouted with glee the more vulgar and vengeful their Dear Leader got. They were salivating to hear him talk about people getting beaten, or to hear him talk about immigrants like they are sub-human. These “hard up” people smiled and cheered for the grossest, most disgusting rhetoric as they happily waved “Mass Deportation Now” signs. This idea that these either venomous or willfully ignorant fucks voted the embodiment of the seven deadly sins into office knowing full well who he is because they’re stressed (as though we aren’t!) is another fucking con. Masks are off, folks. No more excuses. And let me add- all of the Trumpers I know personally are well off and not struggling at all.
How many turd voters are charging groceries on credit cards bc of their truck pmt on a lifted F150 that cost $75,000+? The ins & gas must be a bitch. Make better financial decisions.
Yeah exactly this..😵💫
They did selective listening. When he said something unspeakably cruel, they said awww, he's not going to do that he's going to do this (slightly less cruel) thing. Stephen Miller was just announced as assistant policy director. The cruelty Trump promised has just been amped up to 15.
Here's an existential question: Is Stephen Miller the reincarnation of Heydrich or Goebbels? Or maybe Eichmann?
Hmmm.... all the worst slime parts of their essences crawled together and became Miller.
👍👍
Ugh. What a disgusting thought, but right on the money.
Goebbels.
I'm torn between Goebbels and Heydrich.
I’m going with Eichmann.
Amen Jane!! 🙌🏽
Jane John Jones, ABSOLUTELY!!! They’re fucking sick!!
And you never did one stupid thing in your whole life? It's called trial and error and most of us have done it. Read the Robert Reich piece and see if most trump supporters are doing OK.
Is this snark? Because, yes, I’ve done so many stupid things in my life that I’ve lost count. However, I never did something stupid that would result in mass suffering, the destruction of democracy, the normalization of rape, theft, cruelty, greed, oppression, bigotry and the flouting of basic human decency. This was a choice between democracy and fascism, decency and amoral cruelty… are you excusing this? Are you excusing this as just a silly mistake? I really hope you’re joking.
no snark at all. I voted for Harris, knowing that there would be no guarantee that she would cease arms sales to Israel. It is highly probable that the genocide in Gaza will continue. And I voted for that. So that makes ME voting for probable genocide with complete deliberation. That's worse than voting for genocide by mistake.
It is very hard to be completely pure and avoid every single mistake in this world. Some people think since Trump is such a big liar, he's lying about his plans. I don't know if they're right. I hope he'll deport just a few thousand very dramatically and be done with it. After all, he can't deport them unless the country is willing to take them back. Mexico can send troops to the border and simply block deportation busses from mentoring. If an airplane full of deportees lands in a country in Central America, that government can simply order it to fly back where it came from. Trump's power is not unlimited.
It is not only highly probable that the genocide in Gaze will continue, it is guaranteed. In fact, with Netanyahu and his Kahanist thugs in charge the chance that there will be ANY Palestinians in Gaza left soon is slim to none. And the West Bank will be annexed very quickly. Your argument that you willingly voted for genocide by voting for Harris is absurd. She was the only chance that there might be some actual pushback against the Israelis. As a Jew, I say without hesitation that the current government of Israel is the greatest threat to the safety of Jews worldwide.
You can speculate all you want about what will or will not happen under Trump. Expect the worst. The original topic of our exchange was whether Trump voters voted for him because they were economically stressed or not, I said my piece. At this point, I can truly say that I forgive the Germans more than I will ever forgive American Trumpers for embracing evil, at least the Germans in the 30’s were experiencing real, crushing economic horrors and hardships. Americans during an economic upturn and the promise of real reforms offered by Harris willingly embraced the worst villainous waste of human flesh to ever darken the Oval Office. You want to make excuses for that? Have at it. It’s called “enabling”.
Jane John 🎯
Kathleen, what exactly are you trying to say? What is your point? I don’t consider voting for frump
A mistake! It was done with all of its deplorable intentions.
Please read at least one of the three articles that I suggested. If you only want to read one, read the second one by Robert Reich, and you will understand the point of view that I share with Secretary Reich. Jeff keeps telling us how dumb trumps followers are, and now you want to say they perfectly understand everything about Trump.
Excellent post Jane!!
It’s a curious thing considering, dairy and farm products have immigrants to thank for seeing these products in their stores and on their tables.
Most of construction companies that built the homes they live in have immigrants to thank… our labor force is comprised of legal and illegal immigrants, period!!! Wake the fuck up you fucking immigrant hating morons!!Did any of the miasma of MAGA morons, ever use the scrambled grey matter between their ears to justify getting rid of 1/3 to 1/2 of the labor in America? Or who’s going to pick up the slack?
Having just had appendicitis (yes you don’t need to be under 30 to get it) I waited 18 hours for surgery. I was in a very upscale suburban hospital. The membrane sack had opened so I had contamination. So I was on a drip of antibiotics an hour for four of them four hours between each one.
If frump’s wet dreams come true, I would have been dead. I was in pain terribly sick.
WE WILL NOT LET THIS DERANGED IDIOT DO THIS TO OUR COUNTRY.
WE NEED TO FIGHT HIM TOOTH AND NAIL. WE CANNOT LOSE TIME
WE NEED TO MAKE OUR PLAN.
HIS FOLLOWERS ARE LOSERS. THEIR POOR SND STUPID LIVES ARE THEIR OWN DOING. GROW UP SHIT HEADS.
WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN. EVEN IF STUPID HEAD DIES OF HIS OWN BAD HEALTH SECOND STUPID HEAD IS WORSE.
Terry, sorry to hear you had a health crisis. Strangely enough, I had an attack of an infected gallbladder in October and was in the hospital for two days on an IV antibiotic.
I truly believe that if Trump tries to fuck up healthcare more than it is already, he'll have 80% of the country on his back. If you are on Medicare, consider moving to Houston TX because we have some of the best Medicare hospitals in the country. I'm on Memorial Hermann Medicare advantage. For reasons that are way too long to describe I have been in the hospital six times since March 2023. No serious complaints.
The MAGA map and the opioid addiction map are pretty much the same. Billionaires have ruined the lives of many in rural America but between their churches, Sinclair Broadcasting stations and Fox News, and a 5th rate state education system, they have no clue. We really need to start an EDUCATION campaign, somehow, once the economy starts crashing under Trump.
We need to come up with economic plans that will benefit the flyover states and then we need to educate them about how well these plans will work.
That’s already been done Kathleen. The Dems also had a great solution for immigrants that RescumliCons rejected because it would look good for Joe. They refuse to be educated, they don’t accept fact. Jesus, you should be on to that by now!
Geez, pls don't egg her on!
No!!! There is no comprehensive economic plan for the flyover states. Obamacare gave everyone half-assed health care that is still unaffordable for most people, but there is no guarantee of job retraining for every single adult in the United States.
I agree that there was a good immigration plan that Trump torpedoed, but neither Biden nor Obama guaranteed job training to every American adult.
Turd wants to eliminate the Dept of Education. We already rank in a bad place as far as literacy, math, etc. At least we won't have a wealthy person to lead it. Last admin he had Betsy DeVos trying for four years to undermine education. BTW, Betsy De Vos's brother is Eric Prince.
For a year I had to live in strong maga territory. "Home schooling" was big. Both parents worked, so the kids rode their expensive dirt bikes all day. Half the kids who I'd say hi to at the mailbox, were bright, nice kids. The older kids, middle school aged, were rude and surely, and seemed dumb as a box of rocks.
We always put everything on our credit card. We use Costco card and get money back end of year.
I also use a cash back credit card for groceries. However, I don't think that's what the Democratic congresswoman meant. I think these people are paying interest on their groceries.
I’ve been a fan of Robert for years, he’s incredibly talented, amusing and intelligent! Certainly a great voice for this country Kathleen!!
But “ the govt” was trying to pass anti-price gouging legislation that every GOP objected to. But they lied to their voters. And now the voters will continue to suffer. Just WAIT until medicare and veterans checks stop coming bc he puts in some incompetent hater or his billionaire says so.
You’re not alone when you’re a member here Susan, none of us are. We share our deepest thoughts, hopes and dreams of a better future together!!
I feel exactly the same!! My whole state is MAGA basically!! My friend told me her friends who are Mexican, US citizen ship were verbally assaulted in the grocery store because they were speaking Spanish by a white MAGA Big mouth bitch!! It’s happening here already!
Where are you?
Doreen, so sorry to hear that.
Susan you know I’m on your team.. I’m still at WTAF just happened..
with you ! all the way.... wish I had neighbors like you I could visit :-) even right here in SoCal it feels awkward...they had a Trump celebration (informal) parade in Santa Monica....it was just so sickening to see so many who support a racist, fascists, rapist felon.
It's one thing to think that he only has 4 years and he is gone, it's another that he may not ever be gone, now.
Thanks Susan, it’s unfathomable that people would vote against their own interests, agreed! Having decided to quit banging my head against invincible ignorance, I’ve decided to just roll with it!
There are plenty of amazing places to hang your hat in this world, I’ve explored many, and haven’t ruled out an exodus from the contempt, greed and ignorance of this country… save for multiple war fronts I’ve been involved with for decades, with little resolve… my kids and grandkids!
I'm with you Susan.
Every day I think about the fact that Trump was never prosecuted for his crimes and so many people are ignorant to the monster he truly is. Kamala could have done a better job messaging about his crimes and the fuckery of his last presidency as well. She could have fought better against all of the things Trump was saying in his ads about her. There was never any push back and it was infuriating. I watch mostly recorded shows (especially during election season) but when I would visit my friends and family the commercials were never ending about KAMALA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF GROCERIES the OPEN BORDER the TRANS OPERATIONS the THOUSANDS OF IMMIGRANT MURDERERS and on and on and on ad nauseum. Less talk about mother and auntie would have been better. Maybe.
I too am very concerned with the marginalized people that this will affect starting January 20, until then I hope the Biden administration does what they can to protect our democracy from the incels that will soon be running it.
It looks like we will lose the House as well so it's going to be a rough 2 years.
Peace and love
Yes the lack of push back drives me nuts. We need to name the shit and become a force of no be nice ness!!! 😝
"Vivek Ramaswamy on Dreamers: “if your first act of entering this country broke the law, that doesn’t allow you to remain in this country. you have no right to enter the United States illegally.”
Doesn't Elon Musk fall into that category?
fuck, I wish I'd made that point in my post. bravo
Old Carrot Top needs to reign in his crew. They’re all talking like they are the President elect. Of course he might be in LaLa Land most of the time anyway.
I believe you have on previous posts, I know I have Jeff!
It's really a shame when two of the biggest turds in the punchbowl like Musk and Rancidswampy continue to push their racist agenda without any consequential backlash. What about Melania? She lied about her status when entering the US but the hypocrisy of the GOP will continue to let people like her and Musk slide like it never happened. My heart goes out to the millions of hard working Hispanics who face a very uncertain future. because of the twisted direction of a demented madman.
Speaking of Melanoma, did you hear or see where Putin congratulated trump on his election by releasing nude photos of Melanoma back in the day? Oh yes. trump has been totally poned by the puppet master superior.
Vlad released the Melania nudes on Russian TV, is that right? Congrats, Donald, from your owner & master.
Is this true?
Melanie* is proud of her "nude modeling career." I don't think she or don think this is an insult or humiliating to her.
You’re no doubt right about that. She doesn’t care but Putin was trolling us, his new vassals, by parading our rerun first lady’s(as if!)*P,T & A all during the entire segment.
*Pussy, Tits & Ass
https://youtu.be/HGkdNGSzVZI?si=3TsDgvxbq4_7Sieb
Here’s Keith’s morning You Tube
Thank you! Love Olbermann
Don’t forget frump is STUPID
She has said she is proud of her nude pictures…so there you go…
Right on SPW!
It would also be interesting to know if there were any “special“ circumstances for when his paternal grandfather, his mother, and his first wife came to the USA. They were immigrants as well
And I don’t believe melanoma’s parents passed any immigration tests
They get to fly Trump air back home though Christine!
Absolutely, she has to go back with Mush, Rancidswampy!! Sooner than later!
That guy Vivek, emphasis on the "ek", is the second most repulsive person in that MAGA cult in a tie with Stephen (Goebbels)Miller, Steve (Scarface)Bannon, Roger (The Penquin) Stone.
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Well stated!
They’re all execrable connards Mark!
I heard that interview on c-span radio. You missed the most important part, at the end when the interviewer was hopefully trying to get off the same air waves and closing out with the proverbial “ BEY BEY NOW” Romaswampass interrupted and gave his final thought. He said Your missing the most important deportations, the burro-crates in Washington that are not with us
The truth is when they complain about immigrants, they only mean "certain" immigrants. Like everything else, if your skin is the right color, you get a pass.
The young children did not act to enter this country. No babies deliver themselves, do they, Vivek. Only Trump has the right to break the law, not those other people.
A substantial percentage of the health care professionals and first responders during the Covid crisis were Dreamers. They were actually doing some good for the people of this country, unlike Ramaswamy, who only made healthcare more unavailable.
He’s immune from prosecution for any of his criminal actions, unless he’s impeached Carol, WTF!!
Yes. Elon Musk (Our Co-President?) Absolutely falls into that catrgory!
I was thinking the same thing.
What about Melania???
He does indeed, revocation of his citizenship should have been on the table, I’ve harped on this here AZ
Not to mention Starlink & his rockets -- numerous govt. contracts
Charge him.
Ship those fuckers back!!!!
He does!!
Yes and he worked illegally as well. But so did Melania, then she used “chain migration.”
But they are both white so it’s ok.
HA HA HA HA HA A REPUBLICAN TALKING ABOUT CONSENT HA HA HA HA HA FUCK OFF FOREVER HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA
So can we talk about something? Trump has declared that he will support a Senate Majority Leader only if he agrees to bypass the Senate confirmation processes for all of his nominees. You know, the whole "advise and consent" thing in the Constitution that gives that power to the legislative branch?
And the 3 leading candidates for the Majority Leader all said "Sure, boss, will do."
If there was any doubt that Republican legislators have ceded their power to an autocrat, this is it. And barely a mention from the media.
This while Trump also announced that his calls with foreign leaders will not include any other US officials, just him. "Sure, boss", they say.
Not even a whisper of resistance. Checks and balances is so old school. Who needs it when you have Trump?
An army of lemmings is dashing off the cliff and they are dragging us behind with barely a whimper. I both fear and wish for a national divorce. Surely there are blue staters who long to live in red states and red staters like me who long to be away from the rethugs. We need some seriously good lawyers to figure out a way to effect this migration without resorting to civil war.
I fear we are not seeing just how quickly the move to authoritarianism is accelerating and once new norms have been established, it's very, very difficult to re-establish the old ones. I am not optimistic about the future of American democracy.
Go read Wonkette from a few days ago; they wrote a really long newsletter about exactly that scenario
You need to put this out on X - and let me know if and when it gets published. Great point and I especially like the one you made about crickets from the free press. Excellent work.
Thanks but I left X/Twitter a few years back. Feel free to post under your name!
KO in LA, the Senate Majority leader is chosen by vote of the Republican Senators. Yes, Trump is saying this, but he is asking the Senate to give up one of its important powers. Whether a majority of R senators will accept this, we shall see.
Seriously, does anyone see this senate resisting Trump’s command? The 3 candidates for Majority Leader have already agreed & I haven’t heard a peep from any other Republicans. There will be no Republican pushback. Zero. Nada.
TFG will do whatever he wants and Congress will follow. No one will stop him.
Do you really see them resisting tRump?
They were too afraid of him to vote for impeachment. The votes were there -- but THE GOP Senate let him off the hook.
No.
If he is endangering them politically, enough of them, badly enough, I think it’s possible.
No Senate confirmations? No worries!!! Only the best people...
And he wants to handle security and background checks. What could possibly go wrong?
Many people in drumph’s prior administration were given security clearances when it was recommended they not get them: Ivanka and Jared for example??!!!
Yes. And now he’s talking about doing his own checks. So basically telling us straight out he will pick who he wants & no one else will be involved ed with getting, security clearances or Senate confirmation. Imagine the depths of shamelessness for Republican Senators to cede all of their Article 1 powers and agree to let this guy govern like a dictator.
Simply gutless people who don’t give a shit about anyone/anything.
Never will forgive the seditious conspirators. Never will forgive the selfish assholes who feel so entitled. Never ever will forgive the cruelty. Never.
A solemn Veterans Day. Important, sure, but, no, I cannot be wishing a Happy Veterans Day.
Bless all our pointy little heads.
A solemn and grateful Veterans Day for all those who honorably and selflessly served our nation. Even those who somehow voted for that traitorous insurrectionist who thinks they and all veterans are suckers and losers. But for their support of him, I will never forgive them.
Jeff, Here’s an idea. At the next gathering of the Heritage Foundation or any other Fascist event, we sweep through and deport them! Let them enjoy the leader they love…Putin.
Meanwhile, Blue states must coalesce to block every damn Fascist idea trump tries to implement. California is the 5th largest economy internationally! Far bigger than Canada and many other countries around the Globe. Let’s have Blue states come together to send this..Fuck around and Find Out message!
My fond wish is that Vivek Ramaswamy gets deported because, you know, his funny name and his brown skin. Face eating leopard time!
With all combined the blue states combined, they far outweigh the economies of the red states. Without what they contribute to the federal government those states would go bankrupt. But for some reason many voted for a man out to destroy our economy. I live in MA so the effect will not be seen for some time since it as blue as a blue state gets. Our governor, just like Newsom has already stated she will not comply. Same for NY, IL, Minnesota, and many other blue governors.
Cory Booker is one of my Senators and I love him for the things he says and does.
And Elizabeth Warren in one of mine. And my governor is Maura Healy. Plus Massachusetts is surrounded by blue states with strict gun laws. I have a feeling school shootings may become a thing here though. I am in mourning for my country.
He's a great Senator.
I agree. I know Sen Booker has compassion for all because he doesn’t eat animals. He’s super smart, he speaks Spanish, & I would vote for him for president
I was kinda hoping he'd be majority leader next year. It's a nice thought, worth holding on to.
Same in Maryland, where we have a Black governor and have just elected a Black woman as one of our senators. Feels like an island of sanity in the midst of madness.
As we all are on Jeff’s column…
Newsom is my Governor and I'm ready to join the Resistance!
Mine too and I’m in.
Thank Goddess my home state of Washington elected Bob Ferguson who is currently our AG and a rock star!
I’m sick of my Federal tax $$ going to support Gilead red states’ budgets! I want my tax $$$ returned to my state in the form of Federal projects
Jacqueline..My governor (IL) has very forcefully put notice out that IL will not comply with Fascist demands! He already called a Special Session to lock in certain protections. According to Scott Dworkin, he has contacted each Governor in Blue states to coordinate.
The red states may think they’ll survive with the military complex. But only the very highly intelligent are necessary to create the kind of military systems we have. This will become another way to subvert trump’s Fascist agenda.
They are already forming a coalition to resist his worst policies, and to protect the most vulnerable among us. Attorney Generals are preparing lawsuits against the upcoming administration. We have some guardrails still in place.
Yes, and so is the ACLU.
https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/laurence-tribe-it-s-not-over-the-resistance-is-about-to-ignite-224025669597
I live in California, we should ABSOLUTELY secede & stop sending our mo ey to the stupid ass red states, they HATE us anyway.
I live in a red state, unfortunately and I sure don’t hate you!! Why do you think that? I lived in California for awhile when I was younger. I have cousins who I love there!
Not you, specifically. but many others in red states, who seem to resent California for subsiding their failed economies.
They voice this constantly! 👍🏼
Ready to secede too. I live in CA.
The United State of California.
(I’m in SoCal.).
Great idea for Blue states to coalesce! That also happened during COVID, when turn & POS son-in-law prioritized red states & RUSSIA. We'll never know which other turd friendly countries he traded favors for in exchange for PPE, vents, tests.
There were tens of millions of us living in red states who voted blue up and down the ticket. I’m happy for the blue states governors protecting their constituents. Can they protect us too??
That’s true!! Just because I live in a red state doesn’t make a POS!! I’m blue 100% and so were my friends!
Would I rather live in a blue state? ABSOLUTELY 💯
Just like me here in red-red Utah!
Trisha, Blues states have proclaimed themselves sanctuary states so good people from red states can come to these states if they need an abortion or other treatment they can’t get in their state. However, this is the best way for MAGAts to see the advantages of Blue State policies. Then, of course, they’ll want them. The best thing to happen would be for them to turn on their own. But that would take years because of their cult lifestyle preventing them from seeing the obvious.
One week, he’s saying the immigrants are eating our pets, the next week he’s 😍 Arnold Palmer’s genitalia. The week after that, he’s the president elect of the US. I’m going to have to go ahead and demand an explanation here.
And there was also that bizarre felatio dance he performed. Imagine if a Dem pulled that kind of shit?
Gotta give it to Trump. He's old, stupid and evil. But at least he gives us lots of reasons to laugh at him.
Omg I forgot that
Frump is stupid and nuts all in one
Democrats- for Veteran’s Day…Flag at half mast as an apology to those who fought, were injured or died to destroy fascism. What a disgrace for Veteran’s Day this year and onward.
There is no reason that investigations on this election should not be going on now. Do another first in history…cancel them out.
I am deeply grateful that my FIL isn't here. He was wounded 2x in WWII as a forward artillery observer (called in coordinates for attacks), and deeply hated fascism. I feel the need to visit his grave and apologize for not doing more to stop this mess.
Unfortunately, we have lost nearly all of our WWII veterans who saw and fought against fascism. My father was among them. American shallowness and smugness has led to entitlement, making grievance politics so damn effective. Apparently resentment over immigrants and rising prices is more important than resisting open fascism here in our own country. It certainly is disrespectful to your FIL, my father, and all who were the original antifa.
My father too, from Belgium to France to Germany, army corps of engineers. Building and blowing up bridges, sometimes under fire. All he talked about were the children left in the wake of fascism. We’re going to see some of the same here on our soil, children in the wake of fascism, just like we did in the first bolloxed up immigration ‘plan’. And now, I’m telling my granddaughters to write down the names of their Latino friends if they disappear from their classrooms.
They would be appalled and angry if they could see what we have allowed. Here.
My uncle landed in Normandy on D-Day and spent much of the rest of his life as a union organizer. He is spinning in his grave.
I have one great uncle and two uncles who served in the Navy during WWII; my FIL and his brother were both Marines during the second WW.
I am so ashamed of this country for electing that filthy orange piece of rotted manure--Trump spits on sacrifice and honor because he has none himself. Nor does Trump have even a semblance of conscience or a moral code of any kind. He is toxic filth; corrupt from young manhood on, thanks to his father and his mentor Roy Cohn.
Trump enjoys inflicting cruelty and delights in chaos, so we can expect a horror filled period of time to come.
One uncle landed on D-Day, the other in the 1st Marine Division at Guadalcanal.
Your father in law was a true patriot fighting for our country. You have every right to proudly honor his memory.
My dad was a Navy pilot in WWII. Flew a cloth covered plane onto aircraft carriers. Would never provide any more information than that.
Probably a biplane, possibly with floats. I knew a friend who did that. He catapulted off of a heavy cruiser, then landed on the sea and was winched up by a hook on top of the plane. He said he flew a Curtiss SOC Seagull.
Thanks but I have been told it was probably a Coreus something. I know it wasn't a biplane. It was the last of the cloth covered planes. He just wouldn't talk about it. I just know he loved being a daredevil.
My father-in-law would never talk to his wife or kids about his experiences. It took our son asking him what he did in the war. The floodgates opened, and our son learned a TON about WWII, what Grandpa did, and how freakin' scary that had to have been. Gramps' purple heart is in a shadow box with his other military awards, he was a true American hero.
You are so lucky to have that legacy.
Yeah, if it was off a carrier it wasn’t a biplane. And the Curtiss wasn’t canvas. My bad
I almost didn't read Jeff this morning. I'm so, so afraid of what is going to happen to helpless people. It's quite rich that Vivek, an immigrant or child of immigrants thinks that all illegals should be sent to relocation camps. I keep thinking about Melania and the "Skills" she brought to America. Her skills were so awesome that she earned an Einstein visa. Never did need to learn to speak English. Her "skills" saved her from that. I'm just going to clean out my freezer. That will make me feel better.
Evidently she has a highly intelligent vagina, & an empty head.
I read that Russian television has been celebrating Trump's win and broadcasting photos of Melania in the nude from her "self-expression" days. So there's that ...
arne That asswipe was born in Ohio to immigrant parents. I don't think the dumpers will care, he's brown and has a foreign name....I'd say good LUCK with that, they don't care about explanations.
Something to emphasize when you talk about dreamers and other undocumented people who contribute to America by paying taxes. They don’t just pay income taxes, they also have social security and Medicare taxes deducted from their paychecks. Even though they will probably never be able to receive any of those benefits. So if you want to bankrupt social security, go ahead…deport a bunch of immigrants!
Rogan is a fucking idiot. Most people know that “unite” means you and I. Orange Fuckwit only knows “I”.
I agree with Cory Booker about everything he said but one. My middle name is Cynical.
Yeah, I own some cynical stock. It pays well.
Please don't say "home schooling" around me again.
As an environmental scientist and life long natural historian, I appreciate your screen name. That being said, it is difficult not to despair, know what the environment has for us in the near future
I became a paid subscriber just now so I could reply to your comment. I homeschool my daughter, and it's certainly not "child abuse" as Kristy said below.
She's 8 years old and supposed to be in 3rd grade. However, she's one of the smartest kids I've ever known and is doing 6th grade curriculum this year. She's also neurodiverse. We were told by our public school system that her giftedness AND need for an IEP couldn't both be accommodated. So, we made the choice to begin homeschooling her during Covid.
I can assure you she's getting an amazing, secular, inclusive, non-whitewashed education. If you were to have a conversation with her, you'd never know she was 8. She wants to be an ornithologist when she grows up and thus plans to pursue a doctorate degree. She vehemently despises Trump and other Rs...to the point that she is terrified about the future of our country and planet and will say as much to your face if you're wearing MAGA gear lol.
Please reconsider the view that all homeschoolers are the same.
I’m sure many of us on Jeff’s site are intelligent enough to understand that not all home schooling is bad. It has gotten a horrible name because so many who homeschool are the ultra religious who don’t want their children to learn anything that isn’t their religious indoctrination, &/or those that don’t want their kids being required to be vaccinated to attend public schools. Also, many states do very little to zero oversight of homeschooling to make sure the kids will be able to function in the rest of society.
I'm sure Jeff will thank you for your paid subscription. However, I do not recall expressing the view that all homeschoolers are the same.
It seems implied by your comment that homeschooling is “bad,” but I’ll bite. Why do you not ever want to hear the word homeschooling again? Tone is often misinterpreted online, so perhaps that’s the case here.
In fairness, homeschooling has gotten a bad rap in this space many times. Not necessarily from you. I usually ignore it.
Your daughter sounds amazing! She is lucky to have a mom so tuned into her getting a fabulous education.
Heather, good for you. My niece home schooled all four of her kids. She was not about to put them in a dumb institution. She had the good fortune of being a teacher prior to having kids. They all turned out to be thinkers. Imagine that.
Home " schooling " is child abuse.
But if the Trump thugs dismantle the US Dept. of Education, it will fall to the states to structure their own educational systems. Liberal parents in red states may need to home school their young uns as an alternative to nonstop bible study, zero science and no fact-based learning.
See my reply to Permian Extinction. Your comment is disgusting and paints a broad group of people with the same brush. Many of us care more about the proper education of our children than those who send their kids to public schools.
Grateful for you Jeff.
And good advice on self-care, the road ahead will require a strong resistance: we have to defend those most vulnerable while driving momentum for the 2026 elections (if there are mid-terms). And the democratic party apparatus needs some innovation beyond “well 50 fundraising emails a day didn’t work, let’s go with 75!”.
Dems misunderstood how susceptible Americans are to the immigration lies and constant whining about inflation. The power of gaslighting grievances proved much stronger than hope, tolerance, and actual policy. For as long as I live, I will be stunned at how well his lies and lack of any real ideas worked. Not to mention his inestimable past misdeeds.
And they are now still coming. Asking for money to finish counting ballots. Huh?
Still sadly important until there are new and smarter kids on the block.
Does Joe Rogan spend any time reading, listening, and thinking? He wishes trump would not act as trump always does and has. Yeah, sure. That Rogan has such popularity is another huge indication of why America is so stupid.
His listeners and a lot of red-staters don't like to think - too hard. They would rather listen along to nonsense and simplistic solutions.
Thinking hurts and requires some humility.
The part I got stuck on was consent. Think of it as a body.. so if I get pregnant without consent, by his logic I should be able to get that body (fetus) out of my body (country)?
Not in their world. Women are not countries - in their world, they are property. Just you wait and see.
Does not help the current situation, but this commentary sums up how I feel at the moment: https://x.com/BubbatheOG/status/1854965444878516522
Awesome summation. Thanks. BTW I quit Shitter or whatever fucking Mucks calls it.
He renamed it "X" because that's the symbol he's drawn across the face of democracy.