I can see why they don't bother to seize his passport, because he owns his own plane. He's best buds with two of the most egregious dictators in the world who would be glad to give him passage into their countries without it.
I sincerely hope, though, that SOMEONE in power is watching his plane. If he's worrying about whether he'll have to wear orange (which, without his orange makeup, will make him look very pale ... not to mention what color his hair will be, when he'll be unable to dye it) then I'm willing to bet he's already planning his great escape, just in case.
What happens if he ends up fleeing to Russia or North Korea with digital records of those classified docs he stored so very carefully? Why is he even allowed to walk free? I hate to repeat that line "If it was anyone else ..." but seriously, if it was anyone else, he's be locked up so hard no one would remember he exists.
When the time comes, and Trump is convicted, there is no doubt in my mind that he will attempt to flee the country. Donnie FF certainly has the means to escape. I only wonder if his secret service personnel go with him?
It is my understanding that Secret Service coverage is not a lifetime, guaranteed protection, and is contingent upon the present president authorizing said, protection.
Let his fascist dictator buddies shuttle him away from America.I say “Good riddance “!Get him the hell away from this country as far away as he can get.I, of course, would like for him to rot in a regular prison, but I will take him fleeing to a faraway foreign land.I doubt that this will ever happen though.His enormous malignant ego simply will not allow this as he thinks he does no wrong.He is the worst thing to ever happen to this country and we may never ever be free of the results and hatred that he and his ilk have inflicted upon all of us.
Oh good lord no. If he were to die -- under any circumstances, even a heart attack in broad daylight -- he will become a martyr and rallying cry to the deplorables.
I am 71 years old, and I have no words to describe the level of hatred I have towards that bag of rotten evil flesh. I do think he'll go down in history as sick, deranged and dangerous to all life on the planet as Hitler was. But I don't give a fuck about history, I care about NOW and what is being done to stop him.
I also find it almost impossible to believe that he has gotten this far but he has, and that fact alone should scare the bejesus out of all of us. We must have a Blue Wave in 2024 like no other.
Amen! I’m 71 also and I was physically sick when he was elected over Hillary. I wept for days, then I became enraged and donate as much $ as I could to Dems.
I instantly became a rabid activist and raised money to go campaigning in other states that needed it. I lived in Massachusetts then and our team was pretty much set. It was my medicine for coping with the nightmare.
I closed my eyes election night/morning and honestly still thought I would open them to President elect Clinton. I slept with the tv on with the news because I was certain I would hear the celebrating. I knew what they were saying, that she had lost but I refused to give up hope. I cried, I screamed, I prayed, but there it was - the worst loss other than a death.We were robbed. I just turned 75, and I've paid attention since Eisenhower was President. Not even Nixon was this criminal. I hope to god he is convicted on ALL counts, all the courts, both civil and criminal. And then I want Joe Biden to get a peaceful few years in the White House because the MAGA members of the House were thrown out.
My guess is that his Rethuglican supporters in Congress have been told, in Mob Boss style, to either get in line or at least keep their mouths shut, or there will be consequences, like Romney revealed re voting to impeach, when he announced he was retiring.
Who wrote that post about Milly for trump? Egregious? I mean, he would have needed someone to help him with the spelling to even look it up, much less use it in a sentence.
Losing lousy trump is not going to solve the problem unless we lose the educated evil people who are propping up his dynasty. They can get another warm body to fill that baggy suit.
To end trmpism and the MAGA movement would now take the physical elimination of his enablers and supporters (Congress on down), with strict laws that would redefine "free speech" for a society that is no longer responsible with that level of freedom.
This would not come without a lot of death and other hardships. And it would be difficult to sustain. Re-education centers, laws passed to confiscate arms, speech and movement restricted, the military pretty much a common feature of the landscape. I don't believe we are ready for this.
The laws that define free speech right now don’t allow you to shout ‘fire’ in a crowded theater. Enforcement of libel laws - yes, even during a campaign speech - would be a great start.
America got a lid on propaganda when we took out McCarthy. (No, not Kevin)
Ron, all you said is true. We clearly don’t want THAT! But if we vote, vote, vote and vote some more, there is hope we can “eliminate” the influence of Nazis, haters of every stripe and dumpster. In our republic, we can still vote. GenX is our hope, frankly. Read Dash Dobrofsky, here on substack. He is my hope.
It is criminal that he hasn't been put away for all the violent rhetoric he keeps spouting. I thought the prosecution and Chutkan warned him against that. Seems like a hapless mom threatening an incorrigible toddler, "Now stop that. I'm gonna count to three..." But she's too weak to get to three because she has no idea what she’ll do. Idle threats— and he knows it. So disgusted with a system that tolerates this kind of crap from a traitorous killer.
The brief has not yet been written and all, that is supposed to take place by Thursday. And it won't put him in pretrial detention unless he violates Jack Smith's request, which is VERY NARROW. So, don't count on anything, any time soon.
Agree and I also do not find Chutkin weak by any means! She is weighing everything while her assistants are counting all of the egregious musings asshole is spouting.
"It is criminal that he hasn't been put away for all the violent rhetoric he keeps spouting."
This is a big reason why I believe he will remain mostly unaccountable.
Otherwise, I doubt we'd be discussing him any longer. Because local law enforcement and the FBI would have waited at Mar-a-Faygo for his return from the White House. Greeted at the steps of his plane, read his rights, and arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to overthrow a presidential election. The world would have seen him cuffed with his orange and yellow-painted head pushed less than gently into the backseat. As a flight risk, no bail.
Linda, Take heart, dear. He is hanging himself with every word. Chutkan is no hapless or weak “mother” to a “bad boy”. She is a powerful woman, who knows her business and will put that slug in his rightful place: JAIL!
Every single one of Trump’s targets should sue his ass for slander, libel, reckless endangerment, or whatever the fuck they have laws against. The DOJ seems too afraid to create the appearances of violating that bloated, orange douche bag’s first amendment rights. So let a bunch of private citizens--the Mark Milleys of the world--most of whom are Republican--step up and do us a solid. C’mon guys. Show us your balls are at least as big as E. Jean Carroll’s.
Why does he still have access to social media — and the public, via his speechifying? His threats only get more extreme and chilling. Judge Chutkan, please shut him down!
Just when I thought he couldn't go any lower. How about Alcatraz? He and his Secret Service detail can stay there until Hell freezes over. You better have the contingency of his potential flight covered. One F-16 and a couple of sidewinders would do the trick.
No doubt. It'll also have a larger capacity to hold all of those rotten loads he'll blow on a regular basis. I pity the poor bastards who will be in charge of having to clean up his shit unless it's a few of those model citizens from 1/6.
That extra Trump humiliation would be satisfactory but to actually reverse even a little the cost of that dead-eye, soulless, useless, Insufferable POS...oh, please run that ppv forever!
How quaint to be forced to wear an orange jumpsuit to go along with his orange face and orange hair. All kidding aside, he is definitely showing signs of severe stress and his inability to grasp the severity of his mental state makes it the more pressing that he be found ineligible to run for the presidency in 2024. Retributive justice for Luis Avila would be for Trump to endure the type of pain he endured after he lost his leg, suffered 2 heart attacks and 2 strokes. May he live long enough to thumb his nose to Trump when the orange menace is behind bars.
"let him be forced to wear that orange jumpsuit he fears so much, and let his stupid death threats echo impotently off the walls of his lonely cell." Now that's what I'd like to see.
Just when I think I’ve heard the worst about Donny Fuckface, I read this. What was I thinking. A horrible POS like Donny must have uttered shit like this thousands of times.
“Would government officials try to strip him of his lifetime Secret Service protections?”
Another insidious Trump lie; There is no lifetime Secret Service protection program. The only reason he has a Secret Service protection team is because President Biden approves any and all requests regarding Trump’s Federally provided protection.
This is correct as far as I know. Secret Service protection is a courtesy. In fact, to establish precedent it might be good to remove it if Trump is convicted. Along with stripping of any type of security clearance.
The adult children no longer have SS protection. Normally that would have stopped as soon as an ex-president leaves office, but Biden gave them 6 extra months. That’s expired.
Secret service afforded to a former President was reversed in 2013, by Obama. It had been restricted to 10 yrs in January 1997. This act enabled Clinton, Bush and Obama and any future President to receive lifetime protection, including children until the age of 16. Trump provided his children with 6 months of secret service coverage after he left office.
I’ve heard about a bidding war between Netflix (“Orange is the New Orange”) and NBC (“Prison Apprentice”).
I hope whoever wins -it runs for at least 20 seasons.
Prison Apprentice gets my vote! 🤣🤣
George, you are spot on - 20 seasons.
Being a regular Netflix customer (no network talk/news for this fool) I look forward to "Orange is the New Orange".
I can see why they don't bother to seize his passport, because he owns his own plane. He's best buds with two of the most egregious dictators in the world who would be glad to give him passage into their countries without it.
I sincerely hope, though, that SOMEONE in power is watching his plane. If he's worrying about whether he'll have to wear orange (which, without his orange makeup, will make him look very pale ... not to mention what color his hair will be, when he'll be unable to dye it) then I'm willing to bet he's already planning his great escape, just in case.
What happens if he ends up fleeing to Russia or North Korea with digital records of those classified docs he stored so very carefully? Why is he even allowed to walk free? I hate to repeat that line "If it was anyone else ..." but seriously, if it was anyone else, he's be locked up so hard no one would remember he exists.
When the time comes, and Trump is convicted, there is no doubt in my mind that he will attempt to flee the country. Donnie FF certainly has the means to escape. I only wonder if his secret service personnel go with him?
Not unless they want to go to prison for violating their oath to serve in the Secret Service. Among other crimes.
It is my understanding that Secret Service coverage is not a lifetime, guaranteed protection, and is contingent upon the present president authorizing said, protection.
Well...at least if he flees, we don't need to worry about him being elected...
If he really has any hair! Might be a toupee glued to his empty skull.
Let his fascist dictator buddies shuttle him away from America.I say “Good riddance “!Get him the hell away from this country as far away as he can get.I, of course, would like for him to rot in a regular prison, but I will take him fleeing to a faraway foreign land.I doubt that this will ever happen though.His enormous malignant ego simply will not allow this as he thinks he does no wrong.He is the worst thing to ever happen to this country and we may never ever be free of the results and hatred that he and his ilk have inflicted upon all of us.
Hiding out in North Korea might be just as bad as prison for him.
I want duck tape on his mouth and chains on his ankles.
Or what if he has his good friend Jeffrey Epstein 's fate??? I hope the real story bursts out.....there is so much rotting flesh in that "archive"....
Oh good lord no. If he were to die -- under any circumstances, even a heart attack in broad daylight -- he will become a martyr and rallying cry to the deplorables.
True. But we'll be free of him, at least.
I am 71 years old, and I have no words to describe the level of hatred I have towards that bag of rotten evil flesh. I do think he'll go down in history as sick, deranged and dangerous to all life on the planet as Hitler was. But I don't give a fuck about history, I care about NOW and what is being done to stop him.
I also find it almost impossible to believe that he has gotten this far but he has, and that fact alone should scare the bejesus out of all of us. We must have a Blue Wave in 2024 like no other.
Amen! I’m 71 also and I was physically sick when he was elected over Hillary. I wept for days, then I became enraged and donate as much $ as I could to Dems.
I instantly became a rabid activist and raised money to go campaigning in other states that needed it. I lived in Massachusetts then and our team was pretty much set. It was my medicine for coping with the nightmare.
Go YOU!
You’re the best!
I closed my eyes election night/morning and honestly still thought I would open them to President elect Clinton. I slept with the tv on with the news because I was certain I would hear the celebrating. I knew what they were saying, that she had lost but I refused to give up hope. I cried, I screamed, I prayed, but there it was - the worst loss other than a death.We were robbed. I just turned 75, and I've paid attention since Eisenhower was President. Not even Nixon was this criminal. I hope to god he is convicted on ALL counts, all the courts, both civil and criminal. And then I want Joe Biden to get a peaceful few years in the White House because the MAGA members of the House were thrown out.
SAME here! I am 68 and have never witnessed anything so disturbing from a President.
My guess is that his Rethuglican supporters in Congress have been told, in Mob Boss style, to either get in line or at least keep their mouths shut, or there will be consequences, like Romney revealed re voting to impeach, when he announced he was retiring.
We have been traumatized. We all were in grief and shock when the world ended In November of 2016.
Who wrote that post about Milly for trump? Egregious? I mean, he would have needed someone to help him with the spelling to even look it up, much less use it in a sentence.
Losing lousy trump is not going to solve the problem unless we lose the educated evil people who are propping up his dynasty. They can get another warm body to fill that baggy suit.
My guess is Stephen Miller.
Ewwwwww
Bad edit. MILLEY, not Milly 😳
No worries, fox.
And there's no way his fat fucking fingers could have typed up that whole mess...
He never would have used that big a word. He followers wouldn't understand it...
To end trmpism and the MAGA movement would now take the physical elimination of his enablers and supporters (Congress on down), with strict laws that would redefine "free speech" for a society that is no longer responsible with that level of freedom.
This would not come without a lot of death and other hardships. And it would be difficult to sustain. Re-education centers, laws passed to confiscate arms, speech and movement restricted, the military pretty much a common feature of the landscape. I don't believe we are ready for this.
MAGA is here to stay, trmp or not.
The laws that define free speech right now don’t allow you to shout ‘fire’ in a crowded theater. Enforcement of libel laws - yes, even during a campaign speech - would be a great start.
America got a lid on propaganda when we took out McCarthy. (No, not Kevin)
We can do it again.
Ron, all you said is true. We clearly don’t want THAT! But if we vote, vote, vote and vote some more, there is hope we can “eliminate” the influence of Nazis, haters of every stripe and dumpster. In our republic, we can still vote. GenX is our hope, frankly. Read Dash Dobrofsky, here on substack. He is my hope.
It is criminal that he hasn't been put away for all the violent rhetoric he keeps spouting. I thought the prosecution and Chutkan warned him against that. Seems like a hapless mom threatening an incorrigible toddler, "Now stop that. I'm gonna count to three..." But she's too weak to get to three because she has no idea what she’ll do. Idle threats— and he knows it. So disgusted with a system that tolerates this kind of crap from a traitorous killer.
The brief has not yet been written and all, that is supposed to take place by Thursday. And it won't put him in pretrial detention unless he violates Jack Smith's request, which is VERY NARROW. So, don't count on anything, any time soon.
Agree and I also do not find Chutkin weak by any means! She is weighing everything while her assistants are counting all of the egregious musings asshole is spouting.
how high do they have to count before they take action??
"It is criminal that he hasn't been put away for all the violent rhetoric he keeps spouting."
This is a big reason why I believe he will remain mostly unaccountable.
Otherwise, I doubt we'd be discussing him any longer. Because local law enforcement and the FBI would have waited at Mar-a-Faygo for his return from the White House. Greeted at the steps of his plane, read his rights, and arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to overthrow a presidential election. The world would have seen him cuffed with his orange and yellow-painted head pushed less than gently into the backseat. As a flight risk, no bail.
Exactly ! spot on
Linda, Take heart, dear. He is hanging himself with every word. Chutkan is no hapless or weak “mother” to a “bad boy”. She is a powerful woman, who knows her business and will put that slug in his rightful place: JAIL!
🙏🏻
Trump thinks there should be the punishment of death for traitors. Hmmm 🤔
Exactly. I've been saying that for months now - careful what you wish for, Donnie...
A statement that will remain free of irony.
While close to half of the adult population believes in their heart of hearts that all who question trmp are the traitors.
In his case, I agree! Though the death penalty has never deterred crime or treason. Except in the French Revolution....lol!
Every single one of Trump’s targets should sue his ass for slander, libel, reckless endangerment, or whatever the fuck they have laws against. The DOJ seems too afraid to create the appearances of violating that bloated, orange douche bag’s first amendment rights. So let a bunch of private citizens--the Mark Milleys of the world--most of whom are Republican--step up and do us a solid. C’mon guys. Show us your balls are at least as big as E. Jean Carroll’s.
❤🖤❤🖤❤🖤
I love your comment about E. Jean Carroll! YES! Thank you Stephanie. You made my day.
Every week TFG convinces me that my Garden Slugs have more character!
Why does he still have access to social media — and the public, via his speechifying? His threats only get more extreme and chilling. Judge Chutkan, please shut him down!
Agreed. Even if they gag him from speaking, he would still violate that, and they would do nothing about it. Just unbelievable
How about tying a ball gag around his mouth.....
if dreams could come true
Just when I thought he couldn't go any lower. How about Alcatraz? He and his Secret Service detail can stay there until Hell freezes over. You better have the contingency of his potential flight covered. One F-16 and a couple of sidewinders would do the trick.
I was thinking the same thing. We do have the capacity to prevent Pumpkin 🎃 from reaching any destination.
That orange jumpsuit will probably fit him better than his regular clothing.
I hope he has to wear one that's sized for an actual 6'3" 215lb inmate. And I want pictures!
LOL’
No doubt. It'll also have a larger capacity to hold all of those rotten loads he'll blow on a regular basis. I pity the poor bastards who will be in charge of having to clean up his shit unless it's a few of those model citizens from 1/6.
I imagine he’s more concerned about the hair and skin than the suit. And whether the guards will call him “sir”.
The YouTube where they shave that dead squirrel off his head upon conviction when he enters prison... how many million views?
PPV that mutha. Pay off the debt his admin accrued.
That extra Trump humiliation would be satisfactory but to actually reverse even a little the cost of that dead-eye, soulless, useless, Insufferable POS...oh, please run that ppv forever!
Or mr prrzidant.....
How quaint to be forced to wear an orange jumpsuit to go along with his orange face and orange hair. All kidding aside, he is definitely showing signs of severe stress and his inability to grasp the severity of his mental state makes it the more pressing that he be found ineligible to run for the presidency in 2024. Retributive justice for Luis Avila would be for Trump to endure the type of pain he endured after he lost his leg, suffered 2 heart attacks and 2 strokes. May he live long enough to thumb his nose to Trump when the orange menace is behind bars.
"let him be forced to wear that orange jumpsuit he fears so much, and let his stupid death threats echo impotently off the walls of his lonely cell." Now that's what I'd like to see.
Just when I think I’ve heard the worst about Donny Fuckface, I read this. What was I thinking. A horrible POS like Donny must have uttered shit like this thousands of times.
I know what you mean...there is no 'bottom'...there is no 'worst'. It just keeps getting more so...unbelievable evil!
“Would government officials try to strip him of his lifetime Secret Service protections?”
Another insidious Trump lie; There is no lifetime Secret Service protection program. The only reason he has a Secret Service protection team is because President Biden approves any and all requests regarding Trump’s Federally provided protection.
This is correct as far as I know. Secret Service protection is a courtesy. In fact, to establish precedent it might be good to remove it if Trump is convicted. Along with stripping of any type of security clearance.
And strip it from his children, as well.
The adult children no longer have SS protection. Normally that would have stopped as soon as an ex-president leaves office, but Biden gave them 6 extra months. That’s expired.
Good to know. Thanks!
Secret service afforded to a former President was reversed in 2013, by Obama. It had been restricted to 10 yrs in January 1997. This act enabled Clinton, Bush and Obama and any future President to receive lifetime protection, including children until the age of 16. Trump provided his children with 6 months of secret service coverage after he left office.