That's it. It would be too easy and unfair for stable genius Donny to make the senile old guy look bad. So Trump will be the "better man" and not do it.
Or, considering Trump, Republicans and FOX's specialty is specious claims, they'll say that Biden had a meeting with one of the organizers privately and tainted the impartiality of the debate. Then that meeting could have never happened or sort of did and could be totally legit, but they'll bend some twinge of a pulse of a lifeline to suggest Biden did him dirty and was given the questions ahead of time. You name it, that's what's going to happen.
I think Donald will start screaming that "Biden must take a drug test!" before any debate. And of course, that is ludicrous. But that will be his "out."
I would not take a bet on him participating- in fact, it might be fun to create a betting pool about what his excuse will be to bail. Bone spurs? used already. Sudden case of laryngitis? Melania got the flu and he needs to sit by her bedside? sure.
True- and he’s certainly mentioned ‘polls’ a bazillion times… cause we’ve forgotten abt his healthcare plan that he was putting the finishing touches on 2 weeks and 8 years ago…😒
And when anyone addresses him directly (while kissing his ass), they always start with "Sir"... Sir, I don't know how you do it. Sir, you know more than the doctors. Sir, you're smarter than the generals. I want to know who those idiots are!
That's one of my new favorite insanities. I want someone to ask him to please channel his genius MIT uncle and tell us how that whole electrocution v. shark thing works. It should be one of the debate questions!
Absolute brilliant foolproof win-win solution for Trump—FAKE RIG THE ELECTION!!
Build a reproduction of the Oval Office. Hire Hope Hicks and Kellyanne Conway and he'll feel right at home. He can get visits from Napoleon and Frederick Douglass, and he won't know the difference. Then videotape the whole thing and show it on the Alternative Facts Network. Works for everybody! Hire a few impersonators and he can get a call from Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un every single day. And guess what! He won't be any more out of touch with reality than he is right now! (with thanks to Darrell Smith)
Wait...it's 2024 and you are asking if it's going to be a stretch for a MAGA Republican to make some absurd, preposterous, made-up claim, have the faithful believe it and the 'serious' media report it with a straight face?
I think that will be the real reason that he won’t debate-he won’t be able to just talk over Biden & Jake Tapper so he believes it’s rigged against him. Last debate he became unhinged & talked over Biden so that Biden couldn’t get his point across-on purpose of course to try to make it look like Biden was confused. He knows he can’t win a debate if Biden has a chance to speak without him interrupting every word Biden says
He’s already playing that line. Tim Scott and Lindsey are ready to boost that idiocy and his fans would love to hear that he’s not gonna debate. They don’t give a shit anyway.
Lindsey is too worried about all of those skeletons that would probably fill up two closets. Tim Scott is so delusional that his non-stop puckering on Trump's ass will never make him his choice for VP.
Indeed, that would be his “numero uno” reason. It’s the typical one that he uses to defend himself against all the mean and bad things that people say or undesirable things that happen to him.
In 2016, my liver and I watched the debates with "have a shot" challenges for every time he said certain trigger words. I recall that "hombre" was one of them. I got pretty drunk.
my liver would complain mightily if I did the "have a shot" challenge (besides, my Dear Husband would win -- can't have that!) -- I'd have to go with popping gummies instead lol...
I have written this once before on this site, but when my brilliant grandson was 4 he stated the obvious about the orange creep: "Donald Trump can't go poop because Donald Trump is poop."
My most-wished for mean wish -- I DO try not to wish death on any fellow human, but that arguably leaves Fuckface out -- is for him to drop dead like a stone maybe 3-4 days before the election. He'll never pick a VP candidate who might be actually competent even in the eyes of GQP voters (too much competition, since he's not competent. Or even continent.) And in less than a week, I can't imagine how the GQP could possibly field a strong enough candidate to beat Biden.
I'd just wish debilitating illness on him instead, but that would be way too easy to hide -- Woodrow Wilson got away with being completely out of it from the 1919 peace talks in Paris until the end of his term. (He caught the 1918 flu at the conference and it apparently did a lot of damage, both physically and mentally -- kind of like long covid.) Edith covered for him, something Melania isn't likely to do (unless he's in a coma or something), but there will a lot of Repug volunteers if it keeps them all in power. And it's not like video's all that hard to fake. (See this morning's WaPo for an analysis of the "cheapfake" hoax videos that claim to show Biden's "freeze".)
What if Repugs are hoping he strokes out a few days before election & they quickly substitute Nikki Haley? Perhaps that is her strategy in endorsing tRump?
No matter how The Felon finally departs, you know it's going to be a conspiracy top to bottom. He could stand in front of an international cable news feed and shoot himself in the head and say nobody made me do this, this is my choice. And the sheep would come up with something to twist it into a conspiracy. "He was hypnotized. He was fed a drug that made him self-harm. Yadda Yadda Yadda!" It will be bigger than the JFK theories. Way bigger.
If he wakes up that day thinking he’s smarter than Biden, he’ll show up; otherwise he won’t. Based on the fact that he still thinks he can give a coherent speech, he might just think he can pull it off. It will be glorious if it happens; Biden is pretty witty.
It's certainly not a given that he'll show up, but his recent 'maybe I'll lose on purpose' line makes it sound like he's planning on doing so. I'm sure his advisors are doing their best to find a way of talking him out of it, but it's not like they can come right out and tell him he isn't capable of handling a debate.
Trump will find some excuse to cancel and blame it on Biden! The mainstream media will report Trump’s side of why the debate is canceled and add it to his next rally!!
Yet, every single one of these business leaders will end up voting for him - despite what they have witnessed in the past four years and what they know today.
for the same reason that big business backed Hitler — because all they cared about was that he was going to be good for the economy, or so he convinced them
Big business will vote for trump because they know they can buy anything they want from him for a lousy 100 mill or so. He'll sell them any executive order they want. He'll deport all the illegals except for those who agree to become slaves to approved businessmen And live in barbed wire enclosed barracks.
Too bad Mark Cuban won’t invest in some progressive news outlets so they can compete with all the right wing news outlets -there are way too many right wing news outlets than any other political ideology. That’s why the message getting out there to low information people sucks!
The power and money greedy capitalists around Hitler also thought he was an idiot but they could control him. The Republicans and greedy oligarchs still believe that about Trump. Because as you point out, they live in a bubble and are adept deniers who ignore anything they think will not serve their ambitions.
They always believe they are smart enough to be the first person who can use such an obvious freak of nature for their own purposes. Not good students of history or human nature.
If these big-biz sociopaths knew anything about history or psychology, they'd know that capitalism doesn't work under autocracy -- only under democracy. (S. Ruhle, on MSNBC, keeps driving home that point.) And they'd realize that every autocrat turns on at least some supporters and often many; have they never heard of Stalin or Vlad "I love defenestration" Putin?
Every college should require a multi-disciplinary two-semester course that blends history, government, and political science.
Of course, they know that if their daughter and/or mistress needs an abortion, they can fly to a civilized country and return un-preggers. (It was always that way. They don't need to empathize because "it" will never happen to them.)
It is always a shock when a big business leader does anything ethical at all- voting for trump would be just par for the course for these executives poisoning the air, the water, and the food supply.
I've always said it's not Trump, it's his fucking enablers.
This nightmare could have been put to bed years ago, but no one in the House or Senate with the exception of Liz and Adam had the courage to do the right thing.
One thing MichaelCohen keeps saying / bc he can’t figure out: Why don’t these guys realize that LDFF can pull a MBS(?) and just call everyone into a hotel ballroom and tell them to ‘sign their fortunes over to him’? “New rules bc I said so!” It’s not unprecedented AT ALL… hm 🤔go figure
MC also can’t figure out how rw women vote for ANY of this stuff that R’s are serving up - women of ALL levels / demographics… (no IVF access?) - at least he mentions core issues media won’t touch -puzzling
Everyone who grows up in a reactionary, restrictive community of any kind absorbs its values -- even the women who are being treated as less-than (their treatment is dressed up as "God's will" and "Aren't women *blessed* to be able to be wives and mothers!" etc.). In addition, women in those communities are raised with few skills and with the belief that they can't accomplish much on their own. So they need the structure they grew up in, harmful though it is.
And, even communities that aren't so clearly anti-woman have their own dogma that keeps people from seeing reality. There was an interesting (scary) piece in the NYT recently about Boise City, OK (pop. <1200, 11 churches), where people consider themselves staunchly independent -- despite being completely reliant on federal subsidies for their farms and ranches. Wanna guess whom everyone there votes for? One person quoted even said that Fox had recently become too liberal ...
Larry Kudlow over on Fox says the CEO's were all smitten with Trump. It's important for us to remember that our Fox News watching friends are truly in an alternate reality.
Exactly. The same dedicated toadies who will really be pulling the levers if donny pantload gets re-elected…ie, stephen ("no dates in high school") miller. he'll give the CEO's anything they want.
It was a five alarm shit show the last time. I was in Forensics and debated in High School over 50 years ago. What Trump does, does not qualify as debate. He will scream and cry like the grown toddler that he is.
People with brains can see plainly that Trump needs to be committed to a fake oval office where he can play President the rest of his days without affecting any of us ever again.
Hire Hope Hicks and Kellyanne Conway and he'll feel right at home in his phony Oval Office. He can get visits from Napoleon and Frederick Douglass, and he won't know the difference. Then videotape the whole thing and show it on the Alternative Facts Network. Works for everybody! Hire a few impersonators and he can get a call from Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un every single day. And guess what! He won't be any more out of touch with reality than he is right now.
Doesn't he have his FAKE presidential podium, with flags in the background at Mar-lard-o?? He can remain there & play his little pretend games...WE THE PEOPLE, have to VOTE BLUE...
He has a copy of the Resolute Desk in his office in Scam-a-Lago so...Trump and any Republican really 'debating' made the US an international laughingstock.
Goebbels is credited with saying it first, and Hitler's used it also I think. "Mein Kampf" is the only book The Felon ever read. Well, he apparently had it on his bedside table ... I guess to impress all the girls.
The corporate people who met with Trump and witnessed his dementia in action are not pondering whether to support Trump. If they vote for Trump, they get a fully staff apparatus designed to take over the federal government, get rid of pesky women, blacks, immigrants, and Jews, lower the corporate tax rates to little more than zero, drop those nasty regulations, and let the fascists run wild and free. Voting for Trump is merely the pathway to chaos and the end of America as we've known it.
The CEOS only saw $$$ signs, not realizing until recently that they’re only meant for Der Fuhrer. They hooked their limos to a deflated gasbag and it’s too late to turn back the clock to a coherent candidate. Rats=sinking ship aka as the Trumptanic.
My fondest desire is that Brandon gets under his thin skin. And we can watch him implode yet again real-time. Yeah, there's no way this foreskin can keep his ramblings under two minutes. Batteries => Shark => MIT Genius.... My brain hurts. You know he's gonna spend a lotta CPU cycles trying to find out which CEOs said what. That drives him crazy(ier).
IF Diaper Don debates, it'll be a sad, yet hilarious spectacle. He's just insane and people need to see it in prime time. How much money do these asshole CEOs need? I know they'll vote for him, but at least they now see how demented he is. UGH. Make America SANE again.
This is a good analysis of Trump's vice-presidential choices:
"Felon Seeks Vice"
Describing JD Vance: "Hillbilly Elegy leads the reader gently to a political conclusion: because Vance believes that his relatives were not helped by government assistance, we should all agree that government should do nothing to help people. . . . So, a politician is someone who explains why nothing can be done."
Prof. Snyder is one of my heroes. So is Sheldon Whitehouse, Elizabeth Warren, Jamie Raskin, Katie Porter (absolutely gutted that she won't be a sen. and that she had to give up her seat ... ).
Yes. I'm in her district. She dropped us like a hot potato. I think I understand the political machine aspect of it all, but geeeez. A lot of people gave her a lot of money. And it seems like she just ran with it. She wasn't ready for the next step yet, as was proven in the campaign. She had lots of growing to do. I loved her as far as she had come -- and loved the idea of her building on that base because she has many phenomenal aspects. But I didn't give her money to run for the senate because she wasn't ready. The senate race illustrated that she hadn't really developed a solid, dependable "voice" which addressed a much larger landscape than relying so heavily on that damn whiteboard, and her "I can take on these corporate types" tough gal spiel.
If he even shows up to the debate, he will walk off as soon as he gets red-lighted. Unfair! Scam debate! Rigged! If they can cut me off they can cut you off too! And on and on ….
First saw vid of him walking off with a wet diaper in 1985 in an interview with CNN,any reporter with any spine will have Trump storming off like a toddler.
It should scare us all, and it's been going on for decades, that the folks all the way at the top running big companies and large corporations do not at all have much sense beyond very superficial what people want, the problems they're facing, the annoyances that turn into something big that aren't addressed until they turn into something big. I worked on the Bell Telephone company demise decades ago and I remarked over and over to BellSouth's head guys, CEOs and attorneys for them on down about the very fact they didn't know some really important little detail stuff that was turning off users and that being the reason you have it under Public Service Commissions, to kind of address what users actually want. Bubble? It's the biggest most obstructionist bubble on the planet and it's corporate America and U.S. Congress. Once those guys get in office, their world changes and it's all consumed by raising money, saying the most sensational tings for donations and a base and I can assure you, they don't really give a happy damn about this person or that person. Only if this person or that person is going to donate a bunch to them and they just continue to consume their time in that and clickbaity kind of stuff. Hence the loudest keep getting the most attention, as if they were the majority. The world is kind of going insane all at once and that level field has tipped and we're all falling off. And they're out fundraising and making clickbait comments about what they're going to do.
So, these CEOs were surprised at how incoherently he speaks??? Where the hell have THEY been? That’s FELON trump’s modus operandi. Has anyone here heard him speak in any other manner? These CEOs just want to back-peddle because there is NO WAY FELON trump can have a debate with Biden. Granted, it didn’t matter to the RescumliCon cheaters that Hillary knocked it out of the park compared to diaper-load. But she DID win the only vote that should matter…the voice of the large majority of PEOPLE…real people. These RescumliCon terrorist cult members are way too confident in the plan to cheat…
I really do not think his handlers will let him show up. They will find some lame ass excuse, blame it on Biden and then back out. He will never debate Joe Biden!
In gambling, a "proposition bet" (prop bet, prop, novelty, or a side bet) is a bet made regarding the occurrence or non-occurrence during a game (usually a gambling game) of an event not directly affecting the game's final outcome.”
ive only seen this as a kind of parlor game. for about 10 years we’ve made up a superbowl quiz for our family party. we list maybe15 possible things that could happen or notand everybody gets a list. before the game each person marks whether they think each will or won’t happen. as the game goes on youget one point for each one you get right. @ end person with the most points wins. for something like the superbowl you can look theseup online or make up your own
example
1. the singing of the national anthem will be OVER/UNDER 2:05.
2. First score will be run/other.
3. there will be a score in the last two minutes of the first half YES/NO.
This helps keep up interest through the game. even for not- huge fans or if the game gets boring.
in some jurisdictions casinos can only have this kind of thing on sports
another possible kind for the debate would be like Trump says “rigged” 3.5 times: OVER (4, 5, or more times) or UNDER (0, 1, 2, or 3 times).
i tried thinking of prop bets about Biden but ( not surprisingly) they weren’t much fun
In gambling, a "proposition bet" (prop bet, prop, novelty, or a side bet) is a bet made regarding the occurrence or non-occurrence during a game (usually a gambling game) of an event not directly affecting the game's final outcome.
Proposition bets in sports are differentiated from the general bets for or against a particular team or regarding the total number of points scored.
Funny how nothing was rigged until the orange turd started saying everything was rigged. Now all his cult knows are the lies, misinformation, and that EVERYTHING IS RIGGED AGAIN tRUMP. We better be a whole lot louder than them! T he damn fools!🤦♀️
I’m still giving 4-to-1 odds he weasels out.
I wouldn't be shocked if he did
I want it to happen SO badly! But I am pretty sure orange will come up with some excuse.
Bone spurs
On the inside of his skull. Long ones.
Skull 💀 spurs I like it
Made me laff aloud. Thanks -- I needed that!
Perfect!
😂
Windmill cancer. He’s going to have a biopsy done. Wonder what it would look like?
Do you have ANY CLUE how hard it is to biopsy hot air????
I love it!
Hilarious!
The windmills of/in my mind.....
The windmills of my former mind.
Former prez. Former mind.
Ha!
Like Biden is just too senile to have a debate with.
That's it. It would be too easy and unfair for stable genius Donny to make the senile old guy look bad. So Trump will be the "better man" and not do it.
His fans will eat it up!
Or, considering Trump, Republicans and FOX's specialty is specious claims, they'll say that Biden had a meeting with one of the organizers privately and tainted the impartiality of the debate. Then that meeting could have never happened or sort of did and could be totally legit, but they'll bend some twinge of a pulse of a lifeline to suggest Biden did him dirty and was given the questions ahead of time. You name it, that's what's going to happen.
Fox will go with got the questions ahead that's their style of lame
when did Donald show that much compassion for anyone but himself? He’ll have to go with “rigged” to preserve his victim status
Trump has zero compassion. That would just be the BS excuse for skipping the debate. And like all their claims, utterly laughable.
I'd like to see Biden burst out laughing a few times. Boy would that fuck up trumps bravado.
I just want to see jolten Joe Biden mop the floor with tRump.
That would end this he's to old crap
donny’s thin skin cannot survive laughter
I think Donald will start screaming that "Biden must take a drug test!" before any debate. And of course, that is ludicrous. But that will be his "out."
And a cognitive test—the same one Dumbass Donny took. 🤣🤣
If he does that the word needs to get out that a debate is a cognitive test.
I would say that he’d use the ‘My dog died’ excuse. But everyone knows that he hates dogs.
I would not take a bet on him participating- in fact, it might be fun to create a betting pool about what his excuse will be to bail. Bone spurs? used already. Sudden case of laryngitis? Melania got the flu and he needs to sit by her bedside? sure.
I think if he quits, he'll say it's because it was rigged against him
Like he wanted to testify but "they" wouldn't let him...because Mother Theresa...sharks...windmills...hannibal lecter...said.
‘They’, ‘people are saying’, but ‘we know’ … huh he never says ‘studies have shown’…😅😂🤔
He probably has said "studies have shown." He'll say anything. He's been saying that all the best legal minds in the country have denounced his trial.
True- and he’s certainly mentioned ‘polls’ a bazillion times… cause we’ve forgotten abt his healthcare plan that he was putting the finishing touches on 2 weeks and 8 years ago…😒
And when anyone addresses him directly (while kissing his ass), they always start with "Sir"... Sir, I don't know how you do it. Sir, you know more than the doctors. Sir, you're smarter than the generals. I want to know who those idiots are!
His imaginary playmates?
Me too. Somebody needs to be taking names - and writing them down! 😀
Give him time.
And that big old battery
That's one of my new favorite insanities. I want someone to ask him to please channel his genius MIT uncle and tell us how that whole electrocution v. shark thing works. It should be one of the debate questions!
Absolute brilliant foolproof win-win solution for Trump—FAKE RIG THE ELECTION!!
Build a reproduction of the Oval Office. Hire Hope Hicks and Kellyanne Conway and he'll feel right at home. He can get visits from Napoleon and Frederick Douglass, and he won't know the difference. Then videotape the whole thing and show it on the Alternative Facts Network. Works for everybody! Hire a few impersonators and he can get a call from Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un every single day. And guess what! He won't be any more out of touch with reality than he is right now! (with thanks to Darrell Smith)
This could work
And filmed from his nursing home.
This is surely a cousin to "Wag the Dog", yes?
🎯 Why change excuses just for this? I agree. They’re preparing the “RIGGED!” statement already.
Will that get harder to claim post-Hunter convictions?…
Biden rigged the conviction of his own son to prove how honest he is. He'd do anything to look good. Don't ya know?
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Wait...it's 2024 and you are asking if it's going to be a stretch for a MAGA Republican to make some absurd, preposterous, made-up claim, have the faithful believe it and the 'serious' media report it with a straight face?
He has told us since 2016 that all presidential elections are rigged all the time. What with illegals and dead people voting, etc.
The Emmys were rigged against him too, while he was on "The Apprentice."
Good point!
Except when he wins.
He'll claim they don't let him speak. Then he will use that as an excuse and walk off the stage.
I think that will be the real reason that he won’t debate-he won’t be able to just talk over Biden & Jake Tapper so he believes it’s rigged against him. Last debate he became unhinged & talked over Biden so that Biden couldn’t get his point across-on purpose of course to try to make it look like Biden was confused. He knows he can’t win a debate if Biden has a chance to speak without him interrupting every word Biden says
No way he participates.
But but but…the champagne is chilling!
He’s already playing that line. Tim Scott and Lindsey are ready to boost that idiocy and his fans would love to hear that he’s not gonna debate. They don’t give a shit anyway.
Lindsey is too worried about all of those skeletons that would probably fill up two closets. Tim Scott is so delusional that his non-stop puckering on Trump's ass will never make him his choice for VP.
I think it'll be an easy bet in Vegas.
Exactly, and it’s the same thing he will say if he shows up and inevitably loses.
Indeed, that would be his “numero uno” reason. It’s the typical one that he uses to defend himself against all the mean and bad things that people say or undesirable things that happen to him.
He’ll play the victim again-like always. Like authoritarians do (and narcissistic sociopaths too)
What else is new?
He’ll say that CNN is soooo unfair
He always does.
The standard reply. Or because Biden won't take a drug test.
I think the above ideas all have merit, especially the proving Biden was slipped the questions pre debate. That IS their M-O.
He’s a coward. Always has been.
In 2016, my liver and I watched the debates with "have a shot" challenges for every time he said certain trigger words. I recall that "hombre" was one of them. I got pretty drunk.
They make Bingo cards for that too ;) COLLECT THEM ALL! ( Well if we’re gonna go with the ‘game show theme’ AGAIN, might as well…)
way to go America 😒🙄☹️
I’m betting 9-1 he weasels out, but Bingo words may include Scam! Witch Hunt! Hunter Biden! China! Bullshit!
Elephant! Windmills! Crackers! The last one isn’t on the Bingo card, I’m just calling HIM crackers, which is an olde timey way of calling him crazy.
Laptop! Crooked! Deep State! Appeal! (This stupid) Gag Order! Unfair! and UNFAIRLY!!!
Sir/Tears/Big Strong Men
Mustn't forget Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV.
He weasels out because Stephen Miller yells, "SHARK!"
my liver would complain mightily if I did the "have a shot" challenge (besides, my Dear Husband would win -- can't have that!) -- I'd have to go with popping gummies instead lol...
Yikes!
My liver and I watched ... that is funnier than shit!!!
Perhaps a bad hair day but then again, that balding weasel, like him, always looks like shit.
He's the personification of shit!💩💩
I have written this once before on this site, but when my brilliant grandson was 4 he stated the obvious about the orange creep: "Donald Trump can't go poop because Donald Trump is poop."
Love it! when my grandson was 3 i asked him if he liked Donald Trump and he said “No, because he uses bad words.”
To the 10th power!
You beat me to it. I just posted same: we need a will he/won't he pool.
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Debate day is my birthday. The best present ever…he strokes out right there in front of everyone.
I sincerely hope that all your birthday wishes are granted.
My most-wished for mean wish -- I DO try not to wish death on any fellow human, but that arguably leaves Fuckface out -- is for him to drop dead like a stone maybe 3-4 days before the election. He'll never pick a VP candidate who might be actually competent even in the eyes of GQP voters (too much competition, since he's not competent. Or even continent.) And in less than a week, I can't imagine how the GQP could possibly field a strong enough candidate to beat Biden.
I'd just wish debilitating illness on him instead, but that would be way too easy to hide -- Woodrow Wilson got away with being completely out of it from the 1919 peace talks in Paris until the end of his term. (He caught the 1918 flu at the conference and it apparently did a lot of damage, both physically and mentally -- kind of like long covid.) Edith covered for him, something Melania isn't likely to do (unless he's in a coma or something), but there will a lot of Repug volunteers if it keeps them all in power. And it's not like video's all that hard to fake. (See this morning's WaPo for an analysis of the "cheapfake" hoax videos that claim to show Biden's "freeze".)
I pray he takes a Dirt Nap, every single day!!! Hopefully soon...
A Dirt Nap ... I'm dying here!
Wait ???
What if Repugs are hoping he strokes out a few days before election & they quickly substitute Nikki Haley? Perhaps that is her strategy in endorsing tRump?
No matter how The Felon finally departs, you know it's going to be a conspiracy top to bottom. He could stand in front of an international cable news feed and shoot himself in the head and say nobody made me do this, this is my choice. And the sheep would come up with something to twist it into a conspiracy. "He was hypnotized. He was fed a drug that made him self-harm. Yadda Yadda Yadda!" It will be bigger than the JFK theories. Way bigger.
I hope you don't get sick on your birthday.-from watching the pathetic orangutang. I hope you get to laugh your ass off!!!
Thank you! I hope to laugh my ass off too!
Don't forget, he just recently said that he "might lose on purpose". Did I hear that clip from a JT post?
Yes. Yes, you did. From "This Week In Stupid" summary.
If he wakes up that day thinking he’s smarter than Biden, he’ll show up; otherwise he won’t. Based on the fact that he still thinks he can give a coherent speech, he might just think he can pull it off. It will be glorious if it happens; Biden is pretty witty.
👍
It's certainly not a given that he'll show up, but his recent 'maybe I'll lose on purpose' line makes it sound like he's planning on doing so. I'm sure his advisors are doing their best to find a way of talking him out of it, but it's not like they can come right out and tell him he isn't capable of handling a debate.
I'm going to make a bingo card. I think he'll draw from a large pot of excuses. The Melanoma-flu one is genius.
A flu in her ‘kidneys’?
Agreed. He would be committing political suicide. Not that that wouldn't give me near orgasmic pleasure, but his handlers won't let it happen.
Perhaps someone from the deep state could assist him in comitting suicide........ er, I mean political suicide.
We were just saying here that there's no WAY his advisors will let him do it.
No way will Trump go through with a debate.
$5 that he stays in, Neal
if he does you owe me $20
I just think he’s telling his handlers that he’s got Joe by the cajoles, and he is going to win
Neal, if he weasels out I hope the Biden camp takes full advantage of the political gold they’ve been handed.
Trump will find some excuse to cancel and blame it on Biden! The mainstream media will report Trump’s side of why the debate is canceled and add it to his next rally!!
Same. I've been saying so all along.
Well, I’ve been a HUGE fan of your work since I was knee high to a grasshopper kinda sorta. Just wanted to tell you that.
Thanks! I started out the day pulling a muscle in my back and have been in pain all day. So this helps!
Shall we start a pool on what the excuse is? DIBS ON BONE SPIRS!
I was just going to ask- do we really think convicted felon, captain bone spurs will show?
Yet, every single one of these business leaders will end up voting for him - despite what they have witnessed in the past four years and what they know today.
for the same reason that big business backed Hitler — because all they cared about was that he was going to be good for the economy, or so he convinced them
Big business will vote for trump because they know they can buy anything they want from him for a lousy 100 mill or so. He'll sell them any executive order they want. He'll deport all the illegals except for those who agree to become slaves to approved businessmen And live in barbed wire enclosed barracks.
If only there were more Mark Cuban types around who see and care about who Trump really is and are willing to pay their fair share of taxes.
Too bad Mark Cuban won’t invest in some progressive news outlets so they can compete with all the right wing news outlets -there are way too many right wing news outlets than any other political ideology. That’s why the message getting out there to low information people sucks!
I've stopped watching ALL news on TV...My bp couldn't handle all the crap...
I'm almost there. I can stand 2 or 3 minutes then (as Popeye was fond of saying,) "I can't stands no more."
The power and money greedy capitalists around Hitler also thought he was an idiot but they could control him. The Republicans and greedy oligarchs still believe that about Trump. Because as you point out, they live in a bubble and are adept deniers who ignore anything they think will not serve their ambitions.
A greedfest of modern Franz Joseph von Papen clones.
They always believe they are smart enough to be the first person who can use such an obvious freak of nature for their own purposes. Not good students of history or human nature.
How’d that work out for ya, fellas?
True that about Hitler.
If these big-biz sociopaths knew anything about history or psychology, they'd know that capitalism doesn't work under autocracy -- only under democracy. (S. Ruhle, on MSNBC, keeps driving home that point.) And they'd realize that every autocrat turns on at least some supporters and often many; have they never heard of Stalin or Vlad "I love defenestration" Putin?
Every college should require a multi-disciplinary two-semester course that blends history, government, and political science.
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Yeah. But we can make it work this time!
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This; defining 'the economy' as, their own bank accounts.
Yeah, we see how that turned out.
Of course, they know that if their daughter and/or mistress needs an abortion, they can fly to a civilized country and return un-preggers. (It was always that way. They don't need to empathize because "it" will never happen to them.)
It is always a shock when a big business leader does anything ethical at all- voting for trump would be just par for the course for these executives poisoning the air, the water, and the food supply.
Parasites!!😡😡
Exactly! They are going to count on him to support them, ethical
considerations and competency be damned.
And forgetting that Donny only supports HIMSELF!
I've always said it's not Trump, it's his fucking enablers.
This nightmare could have been put to bed years ago, but no one in the House or Senate with the exception of Liz and Adam had the courage to do the right thing.
After the insurrection McConnell said he wouldn't vote to impeach,let the DOJ deal with him...you see how that's working out...
There would be no trump phenom if there were no idolizers.
One thing MichaelCohen keeps saying / bc he can’t figure out: Why don’t these guys realize that LDFF can pull a MBS(?) and just call everyone into a hotel ballroom and tell them to ‘sign their fortunes over to him’? “New rules bc I said so!” It’s not unprecedented AT ALL… hm 🤔go figure
That's what Putin does too.
Hope the Americans💰 remember that they are ‘exceptional’ and shouldn’t fall for that trap but what do I know…
MC also can’t figure out how rw women vote for ANY of this stuff that R’s are serving up - women of ALL levels / demographics… (no IVF access?) - at least he mentions core issues media won’t touch -puzzling
Everyone who grows up in a reactionary, restrictive community of any kind absorbs its values -- even the women who are being treated as less-than (their treatment is dressed up as "God's will" and "Aren't women *blessed* to be able to be wives and mothers!" etc.). In addition, women in those communities are raised with few skills and with the belief that they can't accomplish much on their own. So they need the structure they grew up in, harmful though it is.
And, even communities that aren't so clearly anti-woman have their own dogma that keeps people from seeing reality. There was an interesting (scary) piece in the NYT recently about Boise City, OK (pop. <1200, 11 churches), where people consider themselves staunchly independent -- despite being completely reliant on federal subsidies for their farms and ranches. Wanna guess whom everyone there votes for? One person quoted even said that Fox had recently become too liberal ...
Of course… thanks for the succinct reminder. We are ALL in our respective bubbles - and they are being leveraged 😓
LDFF? Little Donny Fuck Face?
No doubt,the GOP serves corporations,the NRA and church.
Larry Kudlow over on Fox says the CEO's were all smitten with Trump. It's important for us to remember that our Fox News watching friends are truly in an alternate reality.
Exactly. The same dedicated toadies who will really be pulling the levers if donny pantload gets re-elected…ie, stephen ("no dates in high school") miller. he'll give the CEO's anything they want.
I’m not certain that will apply to Tim Cook.
Exactly 😡
Yep…it’s all about their precious insidious tax breaks
It was a five alarm shit show the last time. I was in Forensics and debated in High School over 50 years ago. What Trump does, does not qualify as debate. He will scream and cry like the grown toddler that he is.
People with brains can see plainly that Trump needs to be committed to a fake oval office where he can play President the rest of his days without affecting any of us ever again.
Love that fake Oval Office idea!!!
Hire Hope Hicks and Kellyanne Conway and he'll feel right at home in his phony Oval Office. He can get visits from Napoleon and Frederick Douglass, and he won't know the difference. Then videotape the whole thing and show it on the Alternative Facts Network. Works for everybody! Hire a few impersonators and he can get a call from Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un every single day. And guess what! He won't be any more out of touch with reality than he is right now.
With AI you don’t even have to hire impersonators.
Um...people with brains are not the ones who will swing this election.
I vision a Barbie House with no exit doors or windows 🤣
debates are a 19th century anachronism. worthless.
I like that idea.
Doesn't he have his FAKE presidential podium, with flags in the background at Mar-lard-o?? He can remain there & play his little pretend games...WE THE PEOPLE, have to VOTE BLUE...
He has a copy of the Resolute Desk in his office in Scam-a-Lago so...Trump and any Republican really 'debating' made the US an international laughingstock.
Hell no he needs to be in jail.
But his supporters LOVE that! The crazier the better
Goebbels is credited with saying it first, and Hitler's used it also I think. "Mein Kampf" is the only book The Felon ever read. Well, he apparently had it on his bedside table ... I guess to impress all the girls.
Boy, I sure hope his ego overcomes his cowardice, and Trump shows up for the debate...and gets smoked "Sleepy Joe Biden"! 🤣 😈
Wow, 23 likes in 15 minutes! That was quick....
Thanks!
The corporate people who met with Trump and witnessed his dementia in action are not pondering whether to support Trump. If they vote for Trump, they get a fully staff apparatus designed to take over the federal government, get rid of pesky women, blacks, immigrants, and Jews, lower the corporate tax rates to little more than zero, drop those nasty regulations, and let the fascists run wild and free. Voting for Trump is merely the pathway to chaos and the end of America as we've known it.
Trump is a useful idiot, suggestible, easily disarmed by having his ass kissed, the ultimate transactional narcissist.
I agree with you Marty. Money is the reason...and how much do they really need? The greed is appalling.
They're addicted to wealth like Don Jr. is addicted to his Bolivian Marching Powder.
This remark is a great summary of it all.
The CEOS only saw $$$ signs, not realizing until recently that they’re only meant for Der Fuhrer. They hooked their limos to a deflated gasbag and it’s too late to turn back the clock to a coherent candidate. Rats=sinking ship aka as the Trumptanic.
Trumptanic! Love that!
My fondest desire is that Brandon gets under his thin skin. And we can watch him implode yet again real-time. Yeah, there's no way this foreskin can keep his ramblings under two minutes. Batteries => Shark => MIT Genius.... My brain hurts. You know he's gonna spend a lotta CPU cycles trying to find out which CEOs said what. That drives him crazy(ier).
Person, woman, man, camera, tv.
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IF Diaper Don debates, it'll be a sad, yet hilarious spectacle. He's just insane and people need to see it in prime time. How much money do these asshole CEOs need? I know they'll vote for him, but at least they now see how demented he is. UGH. Make America SANE again.
MASA!!!
I would like to have a spelling bee instead. I want to see trumpf try to spell words against Biden. It could be fun.
First word: Spell ‘democracy’.
Second word: fellun
Good one!
Yes to Spelling Bee! Make them use the word in a coherent sentence. Word #1 for Turd: covfefe
This is a good analysis of Trump's vice-presidential choices:
"Felon Seeks Vice"
Describing JD Vance: "Hillbilly Elegy leads the reader gently to a political conclusion: because Vance believes that his relatives were not helped by government assistance, we should all agree that government should do nothing to help people. . . . So, a politician is someone who explains why nothing can be done."
https://snyder.substack.com/p/trump-seeks-vice
Thank you for posting Snyder’s substack. A must read for sure and should be shared widely.
Prof. Snyder is one of my heroes. So is Sheldon Whitehouse, Elizabeth Warren, Jamie Raskin, Katie Porter (absolutely gutted that she won't be a sen. and that she had to give up her seat ... ).
I love Katie Porter but she should have just held her seat in the house and waited for awhile. Sad.
Yes. I'm in her district. She dropped us like a hot potato. I think I understand the political machine aspect of it all, but geeeez. A lot of people gave her a lot of money. And it seems like she just ran with it. She wasn't ready for the next step yet, as was proven in the campaign. She had lots of growing to do. I loved her as far as she had come -- and loved the idea of her building on that base because she has many phenomenal aspects. But I didn't give her money to run for the senate because she wasn't ready. The senate race illustrated that she hadn't really developed a solid, dependable "voice" which addressed a much larger landscape than relying so heavily on that damn whiteboard, and her "I can take on these corporate types" tough gal spiel.
I need to read that.
If he even shows up to the debate, he will walk off as soon as he gets red-lighted. Unfair! Scam debate! Rigged! If they can cut me off they can cut you off too! And on and on ….
First saw vid of him walking off with a wet diaper in 1985 in an interview with CNN,any reporter with any spine will have Trump storming off like a toddler.
That wouldn't surprise me one bit.
It should scare us all, and it's been going on for decades, that the folks all the way at the top running big companies and large corporations do not at all have much sense beyond very superficial what people want, the problems they're facing, the annoyances that turn into something big that aren't addressed until they turn into something big. I worked on the Bell Telephone company demise decades ago and I remarked over and over to BellSouth's head guys, CEOs and attorneys for them on down about the very fact they didn't know some really important little detail stuff that was turning off users and that being the reason you have it under Public Service Commissions, to kind of address what users actually want. Bubble? It's the biggest most obstructionist bubble on the planet and it's corporate America and U.S. Congress. Once those guys get in office, their world changes and it's all consumed by raising money, saying the most sensational tings for donations and a base and I can assure you, they don't really give a happy damn about this person or that person. Only if this person or that person is going to donate a bunch to them and they just continue to consume their time in that and clickbaity kind of stuff. Hence the loudest keep getting the most attention, as if they were the majority. The world is kind of going insane all at once and that level field has tipped and we're all falling off. And they're out fundraising and making clickbait comments about what they're going to do.
and now our scotus is a part of it too.
In the worst and most awful way.
So, these CEOs were surprised at how incoherently he speaks??? Where the hell have THEY been? That’s FELON trump’s modus operandi. Has anyone here heard him speak in any other manner? These CEOs just want to back-peddle because there is NO WAY FELON trump can have a debate with Biden. Granted, it didn’t matter to the RescumliCon cheaters that Hillary knocked it out of the park compared to diaper-load. But she DID win the only vote that should matter…the voice of the large majority of PEOPLE…real people. These RescumliCon terrorist cult members are way too confident in the plan to cheat…
But Jeff… I like 5 Alarm Shit Shows… more of that …please sir🤪
I really do not think his handlers will let him show up. They will find some lame ass excuse, blame it on Biden and then back out. He will never debate Joe Biden!
then Biden should get that whole time to talk and promote his agenda
But the audience won't tune in. Unfortunately.
No, because they like to see the insanity
with a lifesize cardboard stand-in for Trump with-his mouth open and hair askew.
He can't sniff enough Adderall to get through a debate.
seems we have plenty of material for Trump Debate Points Bingo cards or prop bet contests.
for example:
will he tout his strategic decision to lose the debate.?
will he claim the debate is rigged? will he stay @ his lectern or wander? will he say 2020 election was stolen?
Will he mention sharks?
will he say “everybody knows” something?
will he tell a “sir” story?
will he mention MIT?
will he criticize the moderators.
will he say “Biden” snd “crime” or “criminal” in the same sentence ?
will get use hostages or warriors to
describe the Ja6 rioters/insurrectionists?
welcome replies with further suggestions…
He'll definitely say 'radical Democrats' about 20 times.
That's just for the first question.
Prop bets.. Vegas is listening! Great idea
Never heard the term - pls explain? Thx
sure. from wikipediA:
In gambling, a "proposition bet" (prop bet, prop, novelty, or a side bet) is a bet made regarding the occurrence or non-occurrence during a game (usually a gambling game) of an event not directly affecting the game's final outcome.”
ive only seen this as a kind of parlor game. for about 10 years we’ve made up a superbowl quiz for our family party. we list maybe15 possible things that could happen or notand everybody gets a list. before the game each person marks whether they think each will or won’t happen. as the game goes on youget one point for each one you get right. @ end person with the most points wins. for something like the superbowl you can look theseup online or make up your own
example
1. the singing of the national anthem will be OVER/UNDER 2:05.
2. First score will be run/other.
3. there will be a score in the last two minutes of the first half YES/NO.
This helps keep up interest through the game. even for not- huge fans or if the game gets boring.
in some jurisdictions casinos can only have this kind of thing on sports
another possible kind for the debate would be like Trump says “rigged” 3.5 times: OVER (4, 5, or more times) or UNDER (0, 1, 2, or 3 times).
i tried thinking of prop bets about Biden but ( not surprisingly) they weren’t much fun
Appreciate the examples!!! Omg I love this (tho I’m late to the party 😆‼️).
I think it was Fred (Mr) Rogers who said that, sadly: ‘villains are much more interesting than the good guys…’ 😣
either him or leo tolstoy
Let’s go with Rogers ‘quoting’ Tolstoy… 👍⁉️
it’s best if each individual wuestion is about 50/50 so casual fans can do as well as fanatics.
In gambling, a "proposition bet" (prop bet, prop, novelty, or a side bet) is a bet made regarding the occurrence or non-occurrence during a game (usually a gambling game) of an event not directly affecting the game's final outcome.
Proposition bets in sports are differentiated from the general bets for or against a particular team or regarding the total number of points scored.
You mean like “what are the odds of Melania filing for divorce during the debate?”
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Dementing illnesses always make personality disorders worse. Donny is going to come across as a petulant, raving enfant terrible.
And his minions will cheer and say how unfair everything was. Rigged. Their favorite word.
Funny how nothing was rigged until the orange turd started saying everything was rigged. Now all his cult knows are the lies, misinformation, and that EVERYTHING IS RIGGED AGAIN tRUMP. We better be a whole lot louder than them! T he damn fools!🤦♀️
and still the msm will be all "Trump Wins!"
He is to the point where he couldn't find the seat of his depends with both hands.