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Jeff Tiedrich's avatar

I had measles, mumps and chicken pox — all before there were vaccines for them — but I don't remember anyone in my neighborhood ever holding parties. do you?

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Sharon Senkiew's avatar

No because our parents weren’t idiots.

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Bob Bowden's avatar

… Idiots like the Moron-In-Chief, who hosted a 2020 Covid party that killed Herman Cain.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And the super-spreader event that was Amy Coney-Barrett's victory party.

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Michael Guenon's avatar

I did as well. Had everything except chicken pox before I even started school. I remember thinking something was wrong that I didn’t get chickenpox until my second grade year was almost over. I do remember the baths and did scratch a pox on my forehead that remained as a scar. Further thought: I had better get the updated shingles vaccination.

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Jeff Tiedrich's avatar

I got chicken pox in high school because there still wasn't a vaccine until late in my teens

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HI2thDoc's avatar

I would advise youse to get the shingles vax if you haven't yet. Knew someone who got shingles on their cornea and lost vision in that eye; also knew a man who got shingles on his, um, peepee. Said it hurt like a motherfucker

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Stephen Brady's avatar

I would consider Donnie getting peri-anal shingles an act of divine providence.

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Mark Slattery's avatar

Taint very nice of you.

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DR Darke's avatar

NEVER use "Taint" and "Donald Trump" in the same sentence! 🤮

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Ellis Weiner's avatar

Because it's redundant?

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Charles Austin's avatar

😂😂😂

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DR Darke's avatar

Among 🤢 other things...!

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T L Mills's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣😏

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Richard Von Busack's avatar

I LIKE the way you think!

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Cathy 98280's avatar

YES, YES, YES!!!

Or perhaps bird flu.

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Doc Blase''s avatar

Why not both?

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Jodi Richard's avatar

Yes please!

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Morgan's avatar

😂🤣😂omg I really needed that!! I’m still cracking up!😂

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Doc Blase''s avatar

I didn't think anything could make me laugh today, but that did. Thank you.

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arne link's avatar

My poor husband got shingles. It was the ugliest, nastiest stuff I have ever seen. I was after my doc for the vaccine for months before it became available. Now I guess I'll get the two part vaccine. Believe me, you don't ever want to get shingles.

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Morgan's avatar

I’m going in Tuesday for pneumonia shot and measles shot 😵‍💫 and I’ll look into the shingles one too..

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Peaceful Mary T.'s avatar

Shingles is awful - I got it about 15 yrs ago (before I was 'old enough' for the shingles vax) and despite getting an antiviral right away, I had pain afterward for months. I've gotten the 2-dose vax now and hope to never get it again!

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shee-rah's avatar

My mother had shingles. She had pain for years. I got it even though I had the first vaccine that was available, before the two-shot vaccine. That first vaccine saved me from a case as terrible as my mom’s.

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Kathy J's avatar

I had shingles when I was 14 years old! It was around my waist, perhaps half or maybe more. It was awful, genuinely freaking awful. In late fall, I received my second shingles vaccine. I never want to go through that again.

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Richard Von Busack's avatar

I had that back when they called it herpes! You know, I guess that social disease was my personal Vietnam war.

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Barbara Morgan's avatar

Comment of the day award 😂💙✌🏻

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KL Pierce's avatar

😮

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Joe Witkowski's avatar

Uhh, chicken pox lead to shingles later in life. So there’s two vaccines for these fucking death-defying MAGA mental mendicants to ignore 🤦‍♂️

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

I've had both Shingrix vaccinations, Shingles is miserably painful, I took care of my sister when she got it.

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Joe Witkowski's avatar

Had chicken pox in 7th grade (1975) thanks to sharing at basketball practice. My late Mom should be canonized for getting me through that death-like misery. These science-free mental mendicants shall reap what they sow. But don’t come within 1,000 miles of my grandsons you fucking Big Gulp/Big Mac/Fux News/Dr. Phil awestruck room temperature IQ’s!!

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Ole Anderson's avatar

What this Country needs is a much stronger strain of COVID and a totally effective vaccine.

That should straighten things up in a couple of months. Apologies to all the health care professionals who would have to deal with it.

Did I mention that this round if you didn’t get vaccinated the no hospital for you. Sit home and sweat it out on your own. If you didn’t believe in the Science to start with then you can’t decide you want to start believing now just because you caught a deadly disease.

That there was a Fuvking vaccine available to prevent !

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Jan Moon's avatar

I had measles, mumps, chicken pox and whooping cough before immunizations were available. The only party I remember was at my house where we consulted on who could get through them all without getting dead.

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Steve in SoCal's avatar

I got measles a year before the vaccine was available and had chicken pox, but somehow managed to avoid mumps and pertussis

BTW - if you've had chicken pox, PLEASE do yourself a favor and get the zoster (shingles) vaccine

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Charles Austin's avatar

What of those who can't afford it?

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Linda Weide's avatar

Is this a rhetorical question? If you live in the north you go to the free clinic if you live in the south you avoid other people your entire life.

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Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

I had chicken pox, then mumps, then measles on three successive Christmases, when I was 5, 6, and 7. With mumps I couldn't come downstairs because two of my uncles had never had it.

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Steve in SoCal's avatar

That's enough for one to convert to Judaism 😉

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

I had chicken pox when I was around 7 years old. I never got the measles or mumps but my two youngest sisters ( fraternal twins , 7 years younger than me did get the mumps.) I still have the mark from the polio shot.

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Steve in SoCal's avatar

I got the polio vaccine on a sugar cube at school, sometime around the first grade

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Joe Witkowski's avatar

If only Dr. Jonas Salk could punch RFK Jr’s Adams Apple up through his head and kill the fucking tequila worm lodged in his pea brain.

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Joe Witkowski's avatar

PS good thing Bobby DumbestFuckInTheFamily got the worm before Mexico tariffs.

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Steve in SoCal's avatar

I planned ahead and stocked with a couple bottles each of Fortaleza, G4, El Tequileño, Arette, and Ocho tequila

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Morgan's avatar

I completely agree 👍🏽

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Bikracer's avatar

🤣😂🤣

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Maui Wahine's avatar

Me too, kindergarten. Nobody was "anti vaxx" back then because they saw what polio could do to their child.

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Steve in SoCal's avatar

Before people decided to "do their own research"

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Judith's avatar

Before Facebook and Twitter gave out diplomas in Infectious Diseases.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

So true. My uncle got whooping cough as an infant and my mother, who was maybe four at the time, remembered it until she got Alzheimers. He would turn blue and there was nothing my grandfather, a doctor, could do. I got measles and chicken pox, but never got mumps or rubella... I was 12 when I got the polio vaccine with the sugar cube. Before that I got the original polio vaccine. Oh, and had a practically invisible case of shingles.

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Steve in SoCal's avatar

Pretty sure the scar was from the smallpox vaccine; I have the same thing

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arne link's avatar

My Mom had the presence of mind to get us our smallpox shots on the hip so we have no arm scar.

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Marla's avatar

Mine, too. Yannow, in case I wanted to compete in a beauty pageant or some such nonsense.

Oh, Ma.

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KP Johnson Austin, TX's avatar

Those "wheels" on us baby boomers' upper arm is so funny. When I was a principal at a middle school the kids were all asking the women (who would wear sleeveless tops) what that weird scar was.

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Morgan's avatar

I had chickenpox at around 5 years old.. ugh I don’t need all this shit at 56.. so I’m going in Tuesday for pneumonia shot and measles shot and anything else I may need 🫤

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

The shingles shot is a two time deal.

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Morgan's avatar

Thanks for the heads up Kristy 🙌🏽🤙🏽🙌🏽

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Steve in SoCal's avatar

Tetanus vaccine every 10 years

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Bikracer's avatar

I would advise getting the Shingrix shots too.

I got Shingles and it was some of the worst pain I have ever experienced.

You can get Shingles again and again and the vaccine is 95% effective!

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Denise Hall's avatar

We had five kids ages 12-2 years old all sick at the same time. My father however had never had chicken pox and he was so severely sick he almost died he was in his early thirties then. This stuff is serious and vaccines are a must. If we have them even common sense says to make use of them. A very low IQ is all that is necessary to determine this!!

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

Let's go Darwin ? 🤔

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shee-rah's avatar

I got everything my older brother brought home from school. I still remember the excruciating earache I had from the measles. Fortunately, I didn’t get polio. Even those who recovered from polio experienced post-polio syndrome in middle age.

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Ole Anderson's avatar

What this Country needs is a much stronger strain of COVID and a totally effective vaccine.

That should straighten things up in a couple of months. Apologies to all the health care professionals who would have to deal with it.

Did I mention that this round if you didn’t get vaccinated then no hospital for you. Sit home and sweat it out on your own. If you didn’t believe in the Science to start with then you can’t decide you want to start believing now just because you caught a deadly disease.

That there was a Fuvking vaccine available to prevent !

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Doc Blase''s avatar

Sounds like a big opportunity to create an Ivermectin toothpaste.

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T L Mills's avatar

For Mr. Guenon.....Yes, please do--you do NOT want to get shingles!!! Even if it doesn't come out on a especially sensitive area like an eye, it still hurts. I watched my mother suffer through it and it wasn't pretty. She said it was like having a lit cigarette held against your skin. Definitely something to avoid if at all possible!!

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Paula Dean Coykendall's avatar

I had shingles a couple years ago. It was like having boils over the left side of my body.

Get the vaccine.

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T L Mills's avatar

I have had both Shingrix shots. The second one gave me a day of the sleepies, but that is 10,000 times better than having shingles!!!!!

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Mps's avatar

I got shingles twice, both during the stressful round one of Trump. Vaccinated now.

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Maui Wahine's avatar

My husband got shingles right after Trump was elected the first time. And he had been vaccinated too (the first vaccine wasnʻt as effective). Trump definitely depresses oneʻs immune system.

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Douglas Paul Truhlar's avatar

Stress is not to be overlooked as a primary and secondary cause of weakened immune responses, existing conditions get worse and it’s kind of hard to pin it on the original disease. My wife and I have a saying ‘stress is the best way to lose weight, a lot and fast.

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T L Mills's avatar

Oh no, Mps! Thankfully you are now better protected from shingles--if not from Krasnov and his stupid doings.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

I believe that's known as tringles.

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Melinda Morrell's avatar

I agree. Mine was confined to a spot on my lower back. Red hot only begins to describe it. I am convinced it was milder than most folk's infection, but only because I had gotten the original shot about 14 yrs ago. I have since gotten the 2-shot new vaccine!

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KL Pierce's avatar

Same.

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Mike Phelan's avatar

When is science going to come up with a trump vaccine to give to the wingnut trumpcultists who believe the all the lies. I have natural immunity to all his shit because I have an educated brain. It’d be ez to identify all the stupids who need vax’d too. Can you get back with me soon on this, science? Thanks

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Kimmy's avatar

Shingles sucked on a particularly awful level. I got it at 25-ish, I discovered it on Christmas Eve where I found myself in the ER convinced it was a brown recluse bite. It was on my right ass cheek and lower back. I firmly thought I would end up losing a chunk of ass from the bite so I had my mom bring me to the ER. Check in, triage, everyone wanted to see the spot to determine how much of an emergency it was, no sorry, I’m not taking my pants off in public, not sober at least. It hurt to sit, wear pants, exist for a while. Zero stars. Zero.

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Sooz Hall's avatar

I never got chickenpox. I’m sure about this, in spite of several doctors who said that I must have had a very mild case and my parents just thought it was the flu. I assured her/him that as an only child, my parents missed NOTHING about my body or health when I was a child. While not a medical expert, I am the reigning world expert on *my* body, and I knew I had NOT had chickenpox. About ?2 years ago I finally gave in and got the double whammy shot. I had NO reaction at all, including at the injection site. I so wanted to say “Neener neener”, but it didn’t seem like a sporting option. I live in a medical area with limited options and have a good diagnostician, and didn’t want to piss him off. That thought was enough to douse my rebellion at last.

I got measles at 16, was very sick. No mumps. I’ve had family with shingles; it is a deep horrific pain for many if not all those infected. There was no vaccine when I was a child.

No mumps vaccine and I’ve never had it so far.

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Masochistic amusement for sure!!

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Sharon C Storm's avatar

I never got chicken pox even though I was exposed to it many many times, like when all 4 of my children came down with it, one every two weeks, so two months of it.

I had measles three times, and mumps once in third grade. I’m so very glad there’s a good vaccine for these once prevalent diseases.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Some people just have an immunity. I speak for myself, I never got mumps or rubella, or at least never experienced any symptoms. When I wanted to get pregnant, I told the nurse and they had me vaccinated right away. Birth defects from mother's rubella were very common in the early Sixties.

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Steve in SoCal's avatar

Getting measles more than once is virtually impossible; you prolly had something else

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Sharon C Storm's avatar

The doctor told my parents that he had never seen anyone who had measles more than once, except for me. It’s possible it was something else, but the doctor didn’t think so.

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

I still have a Chicken Pox scar on my abdomen.

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Susan Linehan's avatar

Oh, I got an updated shingles vaccination. After I'd been through the first. Worst side effects ever. And last week I got--Shingles.

The plus side is that it is a mild case. The vaccine is only 90% effective at STOPPING shingles but, as with the Covid vaccines, very good at keeping that unlucky 10% from having to lie for weeks in tepid baths. Believe me, take the side effects.

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Margaret's avatar

I worked in a nursing home and had to try to comfort people with shingles. Get the vaccine. You don't EVER want to get shingles.

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Jayme Wolworth's avatar

Well, I remember having the Texas Freedom Blisters (chef's kiss for that Jeff) and the mumps and German measles and my grandmother nursing me when she thought I was dying. There were never "parties" for these diseases that I remember but when I had children there was the Chicken Pox theory that everyone in the house should get it and get it over with. I still remember standing in a huge line (and I came from a rural area in WI) when the Polio vaccine came out and everyone believed in science.

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Denise Hall's avatar

First grade line around the room for sugar cubes. We had no idea at 6 we were taking the polio vaccine!! Thank you for the great scientific minds that invent these life saving vaccines. Please take them.

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Cheryl ODonnell's avatar

Everyone really did believe in science, driven by the terror of getting the disease followed by relief that vaccines had arrived. It was pretty simple back then.

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Richard Von Busack's avatar

I heard about the chicken pox thing from The Simpsons, and since I forgot to have kids, I just thought "breeders are the weirdest."

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Rhoda Ozen's avatar

I’m trying to get the thing to put a heart on your comment but it wasn’t working! So there’s this 💙💙💙💙

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Stephen Brady's avatar

No, I don't... What I do remember is a kid in my kindergarten class who died of measles. I almost died of mumps encephalitis. I took care of pregnant women who caught chicken pox and almost died... Welcome to medical Bizarro World. There will be preventable deaths, but not to worry - Donnie will order the CDC not to gather morbidity and mortality data, so we won't know.

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Douglas Paul Truhlar's avatar

That is one hell of a shit show and it’s coming around again with RFK jr. Claiming victory over science! Been looking for road kill to scrape off the road but I close to starving, the vultures keep dive bombing me.

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Terry's avatar

My older brother contracted polio of the throat in 1955, I was 10 years old, he was 16. So my parents were terrified I would get polio, and I was one of the first to get the vaccine. I don't remember any polio parties so we could get polio and 'get it over with.'

I, like you, got the measles, mumps, and chicken pox.

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Carol C's avatar

Absolutely no polio parties. My dad would not stop even for gasoline in a town having a polio outbreak, before the Salk vaccine.

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Morgan's avatar

Terri my Auntie Barb had polio and one leg was shorter than the other.. she had a pronounced limp as long as I’ve been alive..

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Connie Hillyer's avatar

I had them all, too - plus rubella (then commonly known as German measles) - in the mid-1950s.

No parties. No vaccines. And undoubtedly no fun for my mom, who had to deal with an unhappy kid!

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HI2thDoc's avatar

All contagious diseases can have disastrous effects on a developing fetus, but Rubella was particularly feared because it led to horrific birth defects. How come the Party of Fetus Rights doesn't tout vaccines to protect them in their extremely vulnerable state?

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Susan Niemann's avatar

Maybe because "Fuck Science"?

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Margaret's avatar

And "fuck us."

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arne link's avatar

My sister was born with Cerebral Palsy because Mom got German measles during pregnancy. She struggled but lived to 55 years of age. What a sweetheart.

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Morgan's avatar

Awww Arne I’m so sorry.

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Karen Hall's avatar

💔😢

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Douglas Paul Truhlar's avatar

REALLY GOOD point and I didn’t know that! Great point wow.

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Carol C's avatar

I knew, but forgot about it. Twenty years ago they tested women for antibodies to rubella as part of prenatal care. Probably they still do.

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Douglas Paul Truhlar's avatar

Right there Carol; men never heard of it even in the right age group MMR makes it easy so men were (uneducated and undereducated) but we were sporty and clueless, my age group had no info at all anyway. I have always said (baby boomers) were the most unaware of biological sex et al. Didn’t know how, what or why. So stupid.

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

Now I'm reminded of the Thalidomide

disaster .Horrible birth defects, but from a drug not a virus.

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Douglas Paul Truhlar's avatar

Kristy, you can make all things better by simply injecting chlorine.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

I think you need to have the vaccine before you get pregnant.

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Michael Guenon's avatar

As did I at the same time period.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Wanted to laugh at your post today - as usual, Jeff - but reading about the drunken Nazi in charge of our military is so heinous, so depressing, I’m all out of chuckles. Does it take more than a scintilla of intelligence to understand that we are under attack from within?

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Susan Kemp's avatar

I had those also and passed them on to my little sister. My husband had never had chickenpox and caught it when we visited a museum where there were lots of school groups visiting. He was miserable. He had them everywhere, his scalp, his groin. He passed them on to the kids who had much milder cases. They had all their vaccinations but there still wasn’t a vaccine for chickenpox at that time.

I was in rehab for a broken hip when the Covid vaccine came out. We were prioritized so I got my first two shots there. I’ve gotten every booster since. My whole family has been vaccinated. The three members who got Covid, although their cases were relatively mild, were the ones I thought would probably get it because they weren’t very careful about masks and distancing.

People who can be vaccinated and aren’t are fools, but they aren’t just effecting themselves, they’re not vaccinating their children and are also a threat to immunocompromised people.

btw, Texas freedom blisters nearly made me spit out my coffee. Keep up the good work!

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Be grateful. My husband picked up Covid flying to Anaheim around January 15, 2020. He's lost 70% of his lung function and I ended up with long Covid (five years later...still sleeping 12-14 hours a day...) We've gotten all of our vaccines and boosters since March 2021 and wear our masks outside all the time (right now I have nice shamrock mask to wear.) Fortunately in Berkeley, lots of people still wear masks. Isn't it nice all of us typing together about all the diseases we've gotten? Such an "old" thing to do....

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Susan Kemp's avatar

That’s so horrible. I’m sorry both of you are going through this.

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Leigh Woodward's avatar

Nope. All of my siblings had all of these diseases. I was exposed but never got sick except for chicken pox. When I went to college I had titers done and have immunity to measles, mumps and rubella likely because had subclinical illnesses. Not everyone is so lucky!

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Abbi's avatar

Remember when these brain trusts had covid parties? Maybe they’ll have Easter egg hunt parties with eggs from chickens who have avian flu.

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Rebecca Brents's avatar

I caught measles from a kid who lived on our block at some kind of Mothers-&-Babies church function held at the First Methodist Church in Lubbock -- in 1948.

My mother never forgave him.

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Carol JLH's avatar

I too had measles, mumps and chicken pox as well as scarlet fever and rubella. I remember people JOKING about parties but never actually having them.

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Nancy Beck's avatar

Same here, including the scarlet fever which led to rheumatic fever and I was in bed for a year. Gladly stood in line for the sugar cube polio vaccine because a friend got that and couldn't walk. Cannot believe that "we" now don't trust medical research and science. FFS!

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DR Darke's avatar

Measles and mumps, along with chicken pox ("Shingles" if you're an old like I am now) were "childhood diseases" you as a kid were expected to endure because "they're normal, and once you've had them you'll never get them again"(!!!). No parent CELEBRATED them, they just gritted their teeth and let their kids get sick.

It's only in the past few decades that we've found out that the lifetime immunity for MMR and chicken pox is a myth, and you need boosters as older adults. Somebody needs to tell Trump's HHS Secretary Kennedy's brain worm that medicine didn't stop progressing after he was a kid, and that really, needles aren't anywhere near as thick and painful as they were in the Sixties!

PS: I got my MMR shot yesterday at Walgreen's, and I'm not even suffering from the sore arm that's a normal side effect. When I went in for my shot I was told "Yeah, there's a run on MMR boosters right now in New Jersey (where I live now)—we went from having two-three doses in our freezer to needing a dozen a day, because everyone's asking for them for themselves and their kids!"

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Curt Andersen's avatar

I am 78 but never heard of these parties. My mom, born in 1910, lived through numerous diseases and survived, but she lost her older sister to Scarlett Fever, and her Favorite Aunt to diphtheria. When those vaccines became available, she had us kids at the doctor's office the next day.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Yes, people like your mom, and mine, couldn't get enough of vaccines. When you see someone die from something that's now preventable, you have to wonder what kind of people these are. Entitled, I guess.

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Doc Blase''s avatar

Being wealthy is no guarantee of wisdom.

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Robyn myers's avatar

I didn't have chicken pox as a child I got it as an adult- who was four months pregnant. Yeah, that was a picnic (no vax in 1986) my daughter caught it in utero. Fun times.

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Cheryl ODonnell's avatar

My daughter’s entire kindergarten class got chickenpox at the same time, just before graduation. I think my daughter was one of the first. Since they were all on the mend at graduation, the school decided to hold their little party anyway. It was not a public school. Somewhere I have pictures of the spotted kids partying away. They had a blast. A fitting end to the school year and a miserable week or so. The worst case was one of the dads; I guess it’s worse in adults. He joined the party as he too was feeling better. I did not fare so well years earlier. My mother always thought I got sick on purpose so she didn’t either remind me to feed my canary or do it herself. The beginning of learning the hard way that she was … different.

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