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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

Schumer knew that with a government shut down, Musk & Trump could freely dismantle what’s left of the Federal Government

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Cyndi Merrill's avatar

He and others have access to information that we do not. He didn't survive in politics this long without knowing how to weigh competing costs.

Blame the Republicans, who decreed that the previous CR would end at midnight their last day at work before a two week break.

We have all seen what the Felon Melon and the Space Nazi can do in two weeks.

If it is a question of whose motives are better even if I disagree with their decision, I will take Schumer over those chessboard pigeons any day.

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Susan Niemann's avatar

I hope you're right. I think we're all very disillusioned in Democratic leadership right now.

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Cyndi Merrill's avatar

I am, too. I don't like his decision. I just recognize that I don't have access to all the information and there is a real possibility that there is something to be afraid of.

When it comes to trust, I know I can trust the chessboard pigeons to be shameless and evil every time. Sometimes I find out much later that elected Democrats were right and I was wrong. :)

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KL Pierce's avatar

Schumer’s not playing some three dimensional chess with some kind of “secret” info that none of us, including the US House members that stuck their necks out and voted against the CR, are privy to. He caved and needs to go for this and many other reasons. Sell out!

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Itsy Bitsy Spider's avatar

Sorry, I do not agree. It is not as simple as that.

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Charles Austin's avatar

They got no "Dawg"! Totally fucking unacceptable!

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HI2thDoc's avatar

It's telling that many of those who voted with him are from safe blue states, including one of mine. They apparently see Schumer's argument as valid

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Kate's avatar

EXACTLY!!!

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

If he does know that, Lynn, he sure could have done a better job of explaining it. There are no 💯 percent solutions right now, but, we do need to fight the tyranny and do it quickly. Waiting for “a good pitch to hit” will leave the majority of Americans “on the bench.”

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Kate's avatar

He wrote an op-ed in the NYT. I don’t understand why people on our side are falling for the right wing narrative.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Most people do not read NYT nor WaPo anymore so that piece in NYT is moot. Who did he think he was talking to? Certainly not to common folks!

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Susan Niemann's avatar

I agree...I'd like to read it, but I cancelled both the Times and WaPo.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

I cancelled because of Judith Miller, and I haven't missed it. I think it's been two decades.

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Kate's avatar

Maybe most of those here don’t read it, but a hell of a lot of others still do…and I am not defending the NYT one iota, but they still have an oversized voice and audience.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

The New York Times…where all clear thinking Americans go for the truth. Geez, Chuck!

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Sharon Hudnall's avatar

Best way for Chuck to reach his primary constituents and underscore that he's still a Jew and not a Palestinian.

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D Kitterman's avatar

Hard to believe, but there are some stupid Democrats out there.

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

I don’t know if he was right ( I’m inclined to think the opposite). I just know that’s the alternative explanation

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Love the metaphor Walt!!

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

What resistance have these Russian puppets met in the destruction of our country at this point? They’ve hacked our Social Security system funding… what’s stopping them from filching the $ trillions “we the serfs” have already contributed???

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

Nothing. I’m sure filching part of the $2.7 TRILLION SS fund is part of the plan

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Social Security has a 2.9 trillion dollar secured draw plus additional interest paid on the bonded loans, a huge chunk of cash that DOGE hackers appear to have gained access to Lynn. Who have these pimple faced mothers basement dwelling techies shared their hacked information with is troubling!!

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Anne Whitney's avatar

Yes Crom, this is the worst thing I think, the Treasury hack, laying AI code with backdoors so they can stop pmts and shuffle funds without being traced, probably same at SSA by now, they could just back it up like a brinks truck right into the crypto strategic vacation slush fund portal and wheeee. Even the newly minted Dogestooge at SSA said he was concerned, when asked why, he said something like my boss is manic depressive...

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Jeanne Leduc's avatar

Like they already are??

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Cyndi Merrill's avatar

The Civil Service is a guardrail against corruption that undermines democracy. Three guesses why MAGA wants to shut it down?

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

But, we’re not dead yet, Jeanne. Let’s rise up!

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Charles Austin's avatar

Churchill said "If our island story ends here, it will be with all of us lying on the street choking on our own blood."

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Yes, and I, at least have seen the run up to that, and so have black people in Watts, Detroit, and several other cities in the mid Sixties. Maybe you ought to look at Malcolm Nance.

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Outdoorluvr's avatar

And the current lawsuits would be held up, allowing them to forge ahead with all the illegal agency moves they've made.

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Chris Duncan's avatar

That's the argument I've seen. An awful choice, but maybe he did the right thing. The bigger question is WHY are Dems in the position of getting fucked coming and going? The opening video with that fade-cut young imbecile tells us one reason.

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MARY's avatar

He does not care about us or our Republic. He isn't stupid and cannot deny impending Fascism. And capitulates. No excuses, the stakes are astronomical for humanity

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Oregon Larry's avatar

They're doing it anyway!

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Kate's avatar

So give them more leeway to continue and do worse, AND blame the dems for a shutdown? It was a shit sandwich thanks to the REPUKES. The blame must be placed squarely on THEM. This infighting only serves to weaken us right before we have some crucial elections in April.

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