whatever you do, don't go to Elon's Nazi Bar and click on the 'bill clinton' trending topic. save yourself the aggravation of watching all the dipshits crowing about how Clinton was the -real- bestie of the dead pedo
We've all seen them throw every possible insinuation at Clinton. And notably, it revealed his putative taste in women most definitely did not run to underage girl types. He liked them womanly and zaftig. And if they had evidence to the contrary, you are right except for one thing: we would've heard about it back in 1998.
The unredacted flight logs are public record, Clinton apparently never visited the island,did some very public, publicity stuff with Epstein, Trump made at least 5 flights to the island.
My feeling is if there is evidence, then arrest him too. Arrest Trump and Clinton. Arrest the Pope if there is evidence he molested underage girls.
The Republicans think this is about Trump. Because a lot of wealthy men of a certain age believe they are important and above repproach. They believe that young women or girls are unimportant and should be available to serve them. I really think they cant understand that they did anything wrong and this just about "getting" Trump.
It will decline with each health insurance bill and homeowner’s insurace bill, and with each electric bill and each visit to the supermarket where fewer and fewer agriculture products are harvested by law abiding undocumented and underpaid farm workers. Meanwhile the crime rate will begin to rise as more and more Americans become financially desperate and guns continue to proliferate among the more and more frequently untreated mentally ill population
Completely agree. The question is, will the GQP learn their lesson about be careful what you wish for, or will they continue to be the 'Soft on Blue Collar Crime' Party? Will they find and promote another rabble rouser, or will the coming Blue Wave make them reconsider how they run the country? My money is on no. There's a straight line between Dump and Nixon, and unless an epidemic kills off most of them, I see them continue to rile up the uneducated (we can blame Shrub for that) and elect more criminals.
You may be correct...Now they have become part of a Mafia and pushing the envelope further seems to be no problem, until it is. I see more fall out after the holidays. They have family, children and grand children who will carry this ugly offensive mess for their entire lives. Does legacy still count???
Maybe measles will work to our benefit -- as Bobby Jr tells all the MAHA morons that vaccines (and Tylenol) will give them all autism, or worse -- cause them to become trans!
Let's start spreading that around -- vaccines make you trans!
Lord, I sure hope so. It really doesn't matter anymore. Voting is not going to save us from this criminal take-over of our country, I'm afraid. Actually, I'm very afraid.
So many people feel like they can reverse anything in November 2026. News flash: so many MAGAts are already insinuated into the voting system that the election will never be free or fair- although there are people trying to fight this. And, the Democrats would need real opposition leaders to get anything effective happening even if they take majorities- not the weakling Schumer and Jeffries. How does anyone force a corporate party to become a people's party? Unless there is real leadership, there will be no real organized fight to take any degree of power, no matter how low their polling numbers slide.
A real opposition party would never have voted to confirm the garbage in trump's regime, never supported giving him a budget to build up the Gestapo and illegally murder Venezuelans. And they would do everything they could to iInsure that health insurance subsidies continued.
Declining- yes-I should say so, decaying, desintigrating, dismantling - WTF is wrong with that 'base' except the lead that has seeped into their dim-lightbulb- brain from Gramma's light fixture?
It does work on Congress. . .especially the Republicans. What is the evidence that Congress is holding the Trump Regime to account. I have not seen it yet!
They're starting to show stirrings of a spine. Look at how many discharge petitions there have been recently because Holy Mike Johnson won't let them get anything done.
They're starting to realize that Needy Amin is on his way out, and he's unpopular and getting weaker by the day. The rats are starting to desert the sinking ship. Those who want a political (or lobbying) career after this are looking to either distinguish themselves by introducing legislation and then forcing discharge petitions to make it go through or heading for the exits. They're tired of going home and getting yelled at by their constituents because they're afraid of a guy who's brain has turned to pudding or because Holy Mike has stood in the way of getting what they want.
And we're also seeing that in the states, the Republicans aren't rolling over for Trump except in Texas and Florida, especially on redistricting. They all have their own needs and priorities, and don't appreciate Trump coming in and dictating to them. Besides, they understand that Democrats can play the same game, so it's largely futile.
The NDAA with all its installed guardrails and restrictions to funding is one.
Two discharge petitions successfully achieved in one month — when they have almost never been successful at all prior to this — is yet another.
And now: a near unanimous vote for the Epstein transparency law — save for one vote by Clay Higgins — is yet another.
These are solid examples, and all very recent.
You have to realize this: if they don’t act on this, they have all signed the death certificate on their power and authority. That means they abandon their power and wealth.
This is the exact same crossroads Watergate Congress found themselves at.
Last time I checked, Congress cares more about that than Trump, even the MAGA ones.
I agree and I get the ire — but due to the Supreme Court being under his thumb there are only certain moves that work here, and they are slow and procedural.
But take comfort in this: procedure does work. It’s why our founding fathers installed the procedures to begin with.
And it’s exactly how Watergate worked. It wasn’t “swift” and it didn’t start with handcuffs.
It was this exact same arc you are seeing now:
severe overreach
Blatant projection of impunity - DOJ says “we make the laws not you Congress”
Congress forced to act or sign death certificate of its authority completely
Inquiries, subpoenas, impeachments
Then handcuffs and jail time
My piece I published yesterday dives into exactly what will likely end up happening, and so far, based on this mornings comments from Congress, I’m right.
Yes. As a politics junkie who watched every day of the televised Watergate hearings and obssessed over every detail that was out there, I agree. It was a tough slough, but the system finally worked. I can still see Nixon heading to the bye bye helicopter on his way to shame and exile.
However....exactly because SCOTUS is under his thumb, we've seen a number of procedural rulings by lower courts stricken down. And they did give him immunity for, arguably, most of the things he's done thus far. That wasn't the case with Nixon. Back then, even his own party leaders said almost from the get-go that he was way out of line. Also, the public was against him as soon as the cover-up was revealed. There wasn't a 30% MAGAverse backing Nixon up.
IMO, trying to rein Rump in using normal procedures isn't going to work. He's got SCOTUS, most of the Rethuglican leaders, and a sizable chunk of the population, plus the media, in his pocket.
No, if this were like Watergate, Trump would have resigned before the first impeachment because the Republicans would have made it plain to him that otherwise he would be convicted in a humiliating manner.
Clay Higgins was a corrupt cop in Louisiana, who was fired for being too obvious in his corruption. He is the perfect example of a republican type congressman.
Congress was given the first opportunity to review these files… if you’re telling me this is what they saw, that twisted their undies in a bunch, I’ve got an island for sale you might have interest in seeing!
Congress has not been shown shit. They have their own source of material in the Epstein estate subpoenas, but the DoJ has given them nothing more than what they have given the public.
Everyone of the cabinet is corrupt and sworn to obey whatever Trump, Nazi-Miller or Vance tell them to do. We need a hero on the inside who is willing to die to bring them all down.
This is the "most transparent administration in history" in the sense that we can see right through them. Previous administrations at least attempted to keep their lies plausible.
Yeah! RELEASE THE FULL FUCKING UNEDITED EPSTEIN FILES! If not, let us hope that the lawyers for the women get access and release them for us.
They think they are so clever. The thing is that there are some clever evil people working for Trump and "the cause" but most of them are less clever than they think. I am waiting for some Gen Z hacker, who has not been brainwashed into the Manosphere or Tradwife world, to release the files.
Linda: I am thinking exactly the same. There has to be some clever hacker or one with a conscience who will take the risk on. There have been whistleblowers like that in the past for sure.
Absolutely Linda… the women that were subjected to these criminal acts have bonded together, by now they’ve made a list, the reveal can’t be far away after seeing this insanity!
I wish they would! One important detail is that, by stripping Andrew NotAPrince of his royalty (even though he will live in the lap of luxury for the rest of his life), Charles let the whole world know EXACTLY how unspeakably horrid the contents are. For the entirety of its history, the British monarchy (like any monarchy) was highly skilled at ignoring and/or burying inconvenient scandals. So imagine--this was a bridge too far for Charles. Let that simmer for a few moments.
Redacted files can be traced to the party that alters them, this should be a slam dunk investigation, as to the guilty arty. Even though we know Trump is orchestrating redactions to save his transnational criminal syndicate ass.
The files still exist, bringing them to light is the biggest challenge.
This should become much bigger than Watergate, knowing the extent of the crimes, and the players that should end up on prison!
Clinton is and was many things but he is not a p-diddly doo. The Internet has been around long enough now that if there was any evidence it would be plastered for everyone to see. I don't think even Hillary could turn a blind eye to that heinous crime.
"Even Hillary" Go for the nasty, Shellyann. Why does Melons stick with Trump? Perhaps she is a Putin Asset? At least Clinton has a brain, a dog and a saxophone!
Melania was looking for a sugar daddy. She found one and paid the price. But now she's got to be "denaturalized" because she came under false pretenses.
I think it is more nefarious. Melania was sent as a Russian spy model, as so many young women in the Epstein circle were. Mission goal: land an influential American who she can control and help him into the White House so he can wreak havoc and destroy the US. Mission: partially accomplished.
Jeff, and on another platform I get torched for citing that 1000 FBI agents went through these files scrubbing out any references to Donald. As we all know this information came out in Congressional testimony last June as reported by NYTimes and WAPO. So MAGAS say it’s fake news… I’m done arguing with know nothings, they are willfully in a cult. Best to All
Here's a little inside baseball from someone who has done a LOT of document discovery in her time (albeit civil): when you do redactions, you need to keep a log of what redactions you made of which files (each page has a unique number, called a Bates number) and the reason for the redaction (attorney-client privilege, work product, ongoing investigation, national security, protection of witnesses or minors, etc.) It's called a privilege log.
The privilege log should be kept somewhere in DOJ headquarters. It will be the first thing demanded in the lawsuit Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie will file to enforce the law.
Now, if this was just a scrubbing exercise, done by agents instead of lawyers, they should still have procedures in place to keep track of what they're doing. I feel like Joyce White Vance wrote about this at the time this was first talked about. Like this was a thing they did every now and again and they had a process for keeping track of what they did, and the log was something that could be gotten hold of.
In any event, expect litigation over this and expect it quick. They just really don't know how to do a coverup, do they?
I'm gonna take a wild guess with no evidence that they were told not to keep a privilege log. Since when does this regime follow rules, laws, required procedures?
Yup, I recall a piece of some reporting saying the required procedure was not made clear in the process of the documentation review & that's "the" pattern of this regime. When it is identified WHAT was done illegally, play a shell game of whose responsibility it was. Deflecting accountability doesn't cancel responsibility, EVERYONE that has a hand in it has to answer for that.
Just like the babies ripped from their mother's arms in his first crime spree. They "forgot" to keep track of which xtians connected to Betsey DeVos' adoption agency they trafficked them to.
If the idiots who scrubbed the files had 25% of a normal brain, they’d keep damning evidence on Trump when he predictably throws them and everyone under the bus.
I've seen the 2 pics of Trump with the bikini clad young women,the reaction from the MAGATS is predictable, 'The photos don't show their age', that's true, that's probably the information that's been blacked out, it's photoshopped, it's AI, it's fake,the usual MAGA nonsense.
No, they don't. If Trump is completely innocent they could have released everything last spring and it would have been a one day story. Now it's guaranteed to go into the new year.
I heard yesterday they released 1% of the files?? And it was still heavily redacted, huh?? That's not what the Congressional order required, that's pretty much a F-U to the country,and the victims.
1000 sounds like a made-up number to me, like the 100+ million lives saved from Bondi's fentanyl arrests and the 600% reduction in drug costs. Trumpanzees are eager suckers for H-U-G-E numbers, the biggest numbers on the planet.
Maybe even the biggerist numbers in outer space!!- that's just how huge Donnie's Malignant Narcissistic personality has grown-- move on over Elon Musk!
Berrigan was a radical priest arrested for protesting at nuclear weapons sites, getting in further than he was supposed to be allowed to. He is believed to be who Paul Simon was referring to in Me and Julio Down in the Schoolyard ("when the radical priest came to get us released, we was all on the cover of Newsweek!")
The "actual files" are in the control of the government. They're the stuff that was taken from Epstein's houses and off his hard drive, and include the tapes that he was rumored to keep on various people through his cameras.
Some of it has already been released, whether through the Maxwell case, through Epstein's case, or now in the grand jury materials, which have been unsealed.
Other people, like the estate, have stuff as well, which is what the Democrats on House Judiciary have been releasing. The survivors are compiling their own list for their own purposes but are rightfully afraid of retaliation if they themselves release it.
Thanks to his DOGE posse, Musk claimed he has the files and that Trump is in them. Also, why wouldn't Thiel and Palantir Technologies also have easy access to any digitized material? The DOJ is run by clodhoppers and a plastic grifter.
Maybe check the notorious Maralago bathroom for some? Probably room for more in there after the FBI cleaned it out a few years ago. And Epstein files would match the room's decor and august history better than the Smithsonian.
Is there still a thing called an 'investigative journalist'?? Or are they now just stenographers scribbling the latest bunch of lies and propaganda from the babbling idiot cult.
Since it’s unlikely they were wiped, I’d bet someone has a copy, he faces prison time the second he’s no longer president though, holding that thought brings a measure of satisfaction Butch!
Ah yes… that tasty “Go fuck yourself pie”. 😂😂. The bold audacity of the regime makes one think they’re damned sure they’ll make it through this unscathed.
Please hear our prayer all the gods, and let justice be done.
Then it needs to be done now. Not after the holidays, not when maga Mikey with the orange nose calls them back to session. Swift and severe action NOW! Massie and MTG said they would read the names on the floor - so do it NOW! I fear they are going to use the holidays as the excuse. They f@@ked lots of people out of Christmas with pending insurance increases, higher prices on everything so get to work. Do it NOW! Those papers should have been written and submitted at 12:01 AM on December 20th. I am BIG mad. They think we are all idiots if they call this transparency. F@@k them.
That’s an Ayn Rand quote. That’s one reason the right loves her. She was a selfish, hypocritical fuck. Took Medicare late in life after railing against socialism. Uh huh.
Would be cool to see this poem superimposed on the sketched outline of a nude girl's body from Trump's birthday card to Epstein. And projected on Trump Tower -- or the Washington Monument.
Frosty - seriously you should collect all of your limericks and consider publishing them… of course you will need several more, but it’s an endless amount of fuckery out there to work with!
Impeach and disbar Bondi, fire and disbar everyone who tool a black magic marker to those files. These people either think it’s okay for grown men to stick their penises into little girls or will look the other way to keep their jobs. How disgusting. Prosecute the men. Believe the girls.
This is so true!!! Raping little girls is so evil!! And getting a pass on it from his administration should piss off all Americans!! Epstein and trump seemed to think it funny that they could do this . We know trump doesn't respect women. Pretty obvious, the way he talks so ugly to women reporters and gives the women in the White House the job of lying and harping. I really hate them all.
Clearly, females’ health, security, and self sovereignty matter not one whit to the GOP. Women and children exist to be used, controlled, and exploited. It’s all a sick, inside joke to them. Remember trump saying he was going to protect women?
When my son was a child and I asked if he’d cleaned up his room, he made sure I looked in any room except his room and especially his closet. Anyway, about the Epstein files….
I was surprised at the extent of it. Removing files that were available previously? Adding in unrelated pictures of Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, and Bill Clinton with children, in fact Ross’s and Jackson’s own children?
I’m so sick and tired of this fucking Epstein files bullshit I could scream, and I would, except the neighbors, who can’t mind their own ghatdang business, would call the police again.
whatever you do, don't go to Elon's Nazi Bar and click on the 'bill clinton' trending topic. save yourself the aggravation of watching all the dipshits crowing about how Clinton was the -real- bestie of the dead pedo
My feeling about that is that if there were that much evidence of Clinton being a pedo in the files, they would have released that shit back in 2019.
They would have produced a film about it and paid for it to go on general release and Netflix. . .
They did a film about Melanie's panties...whoops...that was trumps last rally. My bad!
It was like a really creepy, stupid movie in my head, though.
We've all seen them throw every possible insinuation at Clinton. And notably, it revealed his putative taste in women most definitely did not run to underage girl types. He liked them womanly and zaftig. And if they had evidence to the contrary, you are right except for one thing: we would've heard about it back in 1998.
Precisely!
Truth!
The unredacted flight logs are public record, Clinton apparently never visited the island,did some very public, publicity stuff with Epstein, Trump made at least 5 flights to the island.
No doubt they would have directed Pam to indict Clinton by now.
If the files exonerated Trump, he'd be selling them to the rubes on gold sneakers for $199.00.
My feeling is if there is evidence, then arrest him too. Arrest Trump and Clinton. Arrest the Pope if there is evidence he molested underage girls.
The Republicans think this is about Trump. Because a lot of wealthy men of a certain age believe they are important and above repproach. They believe that young women or girls are unimportant and should be available to serve them. I really think they cant understand that they did anything wrong and this just about "getting" Trump.
You can forget the Pope. Catholic Priests have been given immunity since day one for all the alter boys they diddled.
Not that the current Pope was among that group of reprobates who escaped punishment.
And to that.
Which was the exact propaganda they hoped to achieve — however — that bullshit only works on the mouth-breathing MAGA base and the bots.
It doesn’t work for those of us with an eyeballs and an actual functioning brain in our heads.
They are trying hard to at least keep the kool-aid drunk MAGA base in their clutches — but that’s only 30% of the general population.
It also doesn’t work on Congress.
30% and declining
It will decline with each health insurance bill and homeowner’s insurace bill, and with each electric bill and each visit to the supermarket where fewer and fewer agriculture products are harvested by law abiding undocumented and underpaid farm workers. Meanwhile the crime rate will begin to rise as more and more Americans become financially desperate and guns continue to proliferate among the more and more frequently untreated mentally ill population
yes, lets focus on the real problems. Trump is a fucking ,lying cunt and he needs to die and then we can get rid of the trash and start fresh
Completely agree. The question is, will the GQP learn their lesson about be careful what you wish for, or will they continue to be the 'Soft on Blue Collar Crime' Party? Will they find and promote another rabble rouser, or will the coming Blue Wave make them reconsider how they run the country? My money is on no. There's a straight line between Dump and Nixon, and unless an epidemic kills off most of them, I see them continue to rile up the uneducated (we can blame Shrub for that) and elect more criminals.
You may be correct...Now they have become part of a Mafia and pushing the envelope further seems to be no problem, until it is. I see more fall out after the holidays. They have family, children and grand children who will carry this ugly offensive mess for their entire lives. Does legacy still count???
Maybe measles will work to our benefit -- as Bobby Jr tells all the MAHA morons that vaccines (and Tylenol) will give them all autism, or worse -- cause them to become trans!
Let's start spreading that around -- vaccines make you trans!
Actually mentally ill people are far less likely to commit violent crime than non mentally ill people.
What percent of mass shootings are perpetrated by mentally healthy people? The correct answer is zero percent
So apparently all nonresidents residing in this country, by Trump standards, are mentally ill.
Lord, I sure hope so. It really doesn't matter anymore. Voting is not going to save us from this criminal take-over of our country, I'm afraid. Actually, I'm very afraid.
So many people feel like they can reverse anything in November 2026. News flash: so many MAGAts are already insinuated into the voting system that the election will never be free or fair- although there are people trying to fight this. And, the Democrats would need real opposition leaders to get anything effective happening even if they take majorities- not the weakling Schumer and Jeffries. How does anyone force a corporate party to become a people's party? Unless there is real leadership, there will be no real organized fight to take any degree of power, no matter how low their polling numbers slide.
A real opposition party would never have voted to confirm the garbage in trump's regime, never supported giving him a budget to build up the Gestapo and illegally murder Venezuelans. And they would do everything they could to iInsure that health insurance subsidies continued.
Yep, spot on, arne. With all the Rethuglican dirty tricks and possible "intervention" by Elon, I don't think voting is the remedy, either.
I believe that ! 100
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Declining- yes-I should say so, decaying, desintigrating, dismantling - WTF is wrong with that 'base' except the lead that has seeped into their dim-lightbulb- brain from Gramma's light fixture?
It does work on Congress. . .especially the Republicans. What is the evidence that Congress is holding the Trump Regime to account. I have not seen it yet!
They're starting to show stirrings of a spine. Look at how many discharge petitions there have been recently because Holy Mike Johnson won't let them get anything done.
They're starting to realize that Needy Amin is on his way out, and he's unpopular and getting weaker by the day. The rats are starting to desert the sinking ship. Those who want a political (or lobbying) career after this are looking to either distinguish themselves by introducing legislation and then forcing discharge petitions to make it go through or heading for the exits. They're tired of going home and getting yelled at by their constituents because they're afraid of a guy who's brain has turned to pudding or because Holy Mike has stood in the way of getting what they want.
And we're also seeing that in the states, the Republicans aren't rolling over for Trump except in Texas and Florida, especially on redistricting. They all have their own needs and priorities, and don't appreciate Trump coming in and dictating to them. Besides, they understand that Democrats can play the same game, so it's largely futile.
Needy Amin 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I hope you're right.
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The NDAA with all its installed guardrails and restrictions to funding is one.
Two discharge petitions successfully achieved in one month — when they have almost never been successful at all prior to this — is yet another.
And now: a near unanimous vote for the Epstein transparency law — save for one vote by Clay Higgins — is yet another.
These are solid examples, and all very recent.
You have to realize this: if they don’t act on this, they have all signed the death certificate on their power and authority. That means they abandon their power and wealth.
This is the exact same crossroads Watergate Congress found themselves at.
Last time I checked, Congress cares more about that than Trump, even the MAGA ones.
We need to stop wasting time in bullshit that will never stick. We need him gone, as in gone, then take down the rest. Every department is corrupted.
I agree and I get the ire — but due to the Supreme Court being under his thumb there are only certain moves that work here, and they are slow and procedural.
But take comfort in this: procedure does work. It’s why our founding fathers installed the procedures to begin with.
And it’s exactly how Watergate worked. It wasn’t “swift” and it didn’t start with handcuffs.
It was this exact same arc you are seeing now:
severe overreach
Blatant projection of impunity - DOJ says “we make the laws not you Congress”
Congress forced to act or sign death certificate of its authority completely
Inquiries, subpoenas, impeachments
Then handcuffs and jail time
My piece I published yesterday dives into exactly what will likely end up happening, and so far, based on this mornings comments from Congress, I’m right.
Thank you for your wisdom. I hope you are right The Supreme Court is corrupted so I am not sure where this leaves us.
Yes. As a politics junkie who watched every day of the televised Watergate hearings and obssessed over every detail that was out there, I agree. It was a tough slough, but the system finally worked. I can still see Nixon heading to the bye bye helicopter on his way to shame and exile.
However....exactly because SCOTUS is under his thumb, we've seen a number of procedural rulings by lower courts stricken down. And they did give him immunity for, arguably, most of the things he's done thus far. That wasn't the case with Nixon. Back then, even his own party leaders said almost from the get-go that he was way out of line. Also, the public was against him as soon as the cover-up was revealed. There wasn't a 30% MAGAverse backing Nixon up.
IMO, trying to rein Rump in using normal procedures isn't going to work. He's got SCOTUS, most of the Rethuglican leaders, and a sizable chunk of the population, plus the media, in his pocket.
No, if this were like Watergate, Trump would have resigned before the first impeachment because the Republicans would have made it plain to him that otherwise he would be convicted in a humiliating manner.
Clay Higgins was a corrupt cop in Louisiana, who was fired for being too obvious in his corruption. He is the perfect example of a republican type congressman.
That's not because of anything they released or didn't release. It's because of their blind obedience to Trump.
Congress was given the first opportunity to review these files… if you’re telling me this is what they saw, that twisted their undies in a bunch, I’ve got an island for sale you might have interest in seeing!
Congress has not been shown shit. They have their own source of material in the Epstein estate subpoenas, but the DoJ has given them nothing more than what they have given the public.
Why are the documents so dark?...because that's how criminal gangsters work. When you elect gangsters of course they're gonna be gangsters.
Blanche and Bondi completely ignored the Congressional order,they do think they're above the law.
Yes — it’s called impunity and hubris.
And now that miscalculation is going to bring them down. They are low hanging fruit with lots of evidence for a successful impeachment.
I don’t see this being one of those times Congress just rolls over. They made it way too blatantly defiant.
Or just a couple of well placed bullets.....I am a peaceful person,but at some point I think this will all become very nasty.
Trumpy is autopenning blank pardons for anyone he sees fit... because it's all so unfair,and a witch hunt.
30% of voting population. Only half of eligible voters actually vote.
Yes, absolutely! So by those metrics it’s even less of the population.
And this corrupt regime is terrible at math.
This coverup is a gross miscalculation on their part. They are forcing Congress — unlike ever before — to roll over or act.
And Congress is acting. They know it’s low hanging fruit to go after Bondi, Blanche et al.
Congress can still do math.
Everyone of the cabinet is corrupt and sworn to obey whatever Trump, Nazi-Miller or Vance tell them to do. We need a hero on the inside who is willing to die to bring them all down.
Yeah, that ain’t gonna happen.
"Yes, absolutely! So by those metrics it’s even less of the population." No. The polls are of the population in general.
Right, I think a lot of Republicans in Congress are willing to do the right thing as long as they can keep defending Big Daddy.
We need a big, vibrant push to register & vote.
That's assuming there will be free and fair elections. I wouldn't make that assumption.
63% of registered voters voted in 2024,down from 66% in 2020.
And, that’s just the voting age population who bothered to register.
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It's deflection and distraction,I don't care who's in the files,or who still needs protection, release them, for the sake of the victims.
I’m not so sure anyone on the republican side of congress has a functioning brain in their heads.
This is the "most transparent administration in history" in the sense that we can see right through them. Previous administrations at least attempted to keep their lies plausible.
Yeah! RELEASE THE FULL FUCKING UNEDITED EPSTEIN FILES! If not, let us hope that the lawyers for the women get access and release them for us.
They think they are so clever. The thing is that there are some clever evil people working for Trump and "the cause" but most of them are less clever than they think. I am waiting for some Gen Z hacker, who has not been brainwashed into the Manosphere or Tradwife world, to release the files.
Linda: I am thinking exactly the same. There has to be some clever hacker or one with a conscience who will take the risk on. There have been whistleblowers like that in the past for sure.
Somebody's got a copy.......In fact, are you old enough to remember Doge and Big Balls? :P
Elonia, when he and Donnie Demento had their breakup, posted that he had the files....Could someone please get Elonia re-pissed off at Demento?
The British Government has a copy
hmmmm, likely Elonia is in the files himself...
Nah, they got back together.
I believe that is exactly what will eventually happen.
Boy, I hope so!
I believe Epstein's unredacted Black Book and flight logs are for sale on eBay.
At the same time he or she could release the Jack Smith testimony transcript.
Yes, that would work for me!!!
Absolutely Linda… the women that were subjected to these criminal acts have bonded together, by now they’ve made a list, the reveal can’t be far away after seeing this insanity!
The UK has copies of all the unredacted files.
Well, why the hell don't they release them? The pedo prince is already disgraced and removed from public life. Oh, wait! There are others.
I wish they would! One important detail is that, by stripping Andrew NotAPrince of his royalty (even though he will live in the lap of luxury for the rest of his life), Charles let the whole world know EXACTLY how unspeakably horrid the contents are. For the entirety of its history, the British monarchy (like any monarchy) was highly skilled at ignoring and/or burying inconvenient scandals. So imagine--this was a bridge too far for Charles. Let that simmer for a few moments.
Redacted files can be traced to the party that alters them, this should be a slam dunk investigation, as to the guilty arty. Even though we know Trump is orchestrating redactions to save his transnational criminal syndicate ass.
The files still exist, bringing them to light is the biggest challenge.
This should become much bigger than Watergate, knowing the extent of the crimes, and the players that should end up on prison!
Yes! And I am praying for whistle-blowers
as Bill Clinton's press secretary put it:
'They've been fighting the release of these documents for a year to protect Bill Clinton?'
Oh me oh my! Prefaced with, "Let me get this straight......"
Nailed it,and it seems DJT is really most of the Epstein files,at least 10 years worth.
Laughable, Michael Jackson as well…wTF!
Next they’ll accuse him of molesting pre-teen girls! 😝😝😝
Clinton is and was many things but he is not a p-diddly doo. The Internet has been around long enough now that if there was any evidence it would be plastered for everyone to see. I don't think even Hillary could turn a blind eye to that heinous crime.
"Even Hillary" Go for the nasty, Shellyann. Why does Melons stick with Trump? Perhaps she is a Putin Asset? At least Clinton has a brain, a dog and a saxophone!
Melania was looking for a sugar daddy. She found one and paid the price. But now she's got to be "denaturalized" because she came under false pretenses.
I think it is more nefarious. Melania was sent as a Russian spy model, as so many young women in the Epstein circle were. Mission goal: land an influential American who she can control and help him into the White House so he can wreak havoc and destroy the US. Mission: partially accomplished.
Pretty sure years ago Melania renegotiated her prenup and NDA, she's definitely got the dirt.
Malaria the first ho. She still can't speak English, but she has seen more action than a race horse.
The Third Lady
Yes. There was a lot that Hillary put up with for the sake of hanging onto her position, but....
I have never nor will I ever go to Elon’s Nazi Bar for any reason.
I have to wonder if Clinton could sue for defamation. Publicly touting fake evidence makes it seem like that suit would be a slam dunk.
They sounds\ like a bunch of underage girls doing something wrong.
Whataboutism at its most repugnant.
This is Nixon’s fault for letting Dixiecrats and other Bible-Belting Bigots into the Republican Party.
Those arrogant SOB’s!!
Jeff, and on another platform I get torched for citing that 1000 FBI agents went through these files scrubbing out any references to Donald. As we all know this information came out in Congressional testimony last June as reported by NYTimes and WAPO. So MAGAS say it’s fake news… I’m done arguing with know nothings, they are willfully in a cult. Best to All
Here's a little inside baseball from someone who has done a LOT of document discovery in her time (albeit civil): when you do redactions, you need to keep a log of what redactions you made of which files (each page has a unique number, called a Bates number) and the reason for the redaction (attorney-client privilege, work product, ongoing investigation, national security, protection of witnesses or minors, etc.) It's called a privilege log.
The privilege log should be kept somewhere in DOJ headquarters. It will be the first thing demanded in the lawsuit Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie will file to enforce the law.
Now, if this was just a scrubbing exercise, done by agents instead of lawyers, they should still have procedures in place to keep track of what they're doing. I feel like Joyce White Vance wrote about this at the time this was first talked about. Like this was a thing they did every now and again and they had a process for keeping track of what they did, and the log was something that could be gotten hold of.
In any event, expect litigation over this and expect it quick. They just really don't know how to do a coverup, do they?
I'm gonna take a wild guess with no evidence that they were told not to keep a privilege log. Since when does this regime follow rules, laws, required procedures?
Yup, I recall a piece of some reporting saying the required procedure was not made clear in the process of the documentation review & that's "the" pattern of this regime. When it is identified WHAT was done illegally, play a shell game of whose responsibility it was. Deflecting accountability doesn't cancel responsibility, EVERYONE that has a hand in it has to answer for that.
exactly , and even if they did keep a log, all of a sudden they can't find it for the subpoena
Or they'll take it to scotus and it will somehow be unconstitutional to require it.
Just like the babies ripped from their mother's arms in his first crime spree. They "forgot" to keep track of which xtians connected to Betsey DeVos' adoption agency they trafficked them to.
They are too stupid to do anything beyond game tv.
Not just this regime. Dick Cheney burned things in the White House- was it in a trash can?
If the idiots who scrubbed the files had 25% of a normal brain, they’d keep damning evidence on Trump when he predictably throws them and everyone under the bus.
Maybe they did.
I've seen the 2 pics of Trump with the bikini clad young women,the reaction from the MAGATS is predictable, 'The photos don't show their age', that's true, that's probably the information that's been blacked out, it's photoshopped, it's AI, it's fake,the usual MAGA nonsense.
Absolutely Peace!
Another suggested to have the 302’s released.. Those are FBI interviews….
Well this regime is not known for being bright.
Lol, Terri, or right! For them it's might over right AND bright.
I'm fairly sure that they are not following any procedures. They will not log their deletions. This is criminal, not procedural.
No, they don't. If Trump is completely innocent they could have released everything last spring and it would have been a one day story. Now it's guaranteed to go into the new year.
I heard yesterday they released 1% of the files?? And it was still heavily redacted, huh?? That's not what the Congressional order required, that's pretty much a F-U to the country,and the victims.
Worked with litigators, can concur. Excellent explanation.
Good for you, Fredo. The irredeemably stupid/myopic aren’t worth your time and energy.
I was told to read the Coffman Report as a source.. Never heard of it, must be a go-to for straight up MAGAS news…
FF— you deserve an enjoyable round of golf with like minded friends and not fucking cult members….
Thank You.. I agree…hopefully I will be surprised….
There's no excuse for them anymore. Not that there ever really was.
It's a cult,they really don't care who's in the files,as long as they can still hate Dems,that's what it's all about.
Yup
Those 1000 fbi agents need to talk
1000 sounds like a made-up number to me, like the 100+ million lives saved from Bondi's fentanyl arrests and the 600% reduction in drug costs. Trumpanzees are eager suckers for H-U-G-E numbers, the biggest numbers on the planet.
Made up facts and numbers are all this administration has Sharon!
I’m 1,000 percent certain that you’re right, Patrick.
Maybe even the biggerist numbers in outer space!!- that's just how huge Donnie's Malignant Narcissistic personality has grown-- move on over Elon Musk!
Pretty sure FBI agents swear an oath too.
Back at you Fastball!
Now would be a good time for somebody who has an unredacted copy to release the whole fucking thing at once
Anyone remember Daniel Berrigan and the fucking Pentagon Papers?
I remember Ellsberg rather well Crystall!
Thanks for the correction, Patrick!
That'll teach me to rely on memory.
Lol, I knew who you meant
Not a problem, I knew the second I read Daniel, I’m guessing Berrigan is someone you follow!
Berrigan was a radical priest arrested for protesting at nuclear weapons sites, getting in further than he was supposed to be allowed to. He is believed to be who Paul Simon was referring to in Me and Julio Down in the Schoolyard ("when the radical priest came to get us released, we was all on the cover of Newsweek!")
A swarm the Ukrainians used it with drones, please somebody let it rip!
Does Anonymous not exist any more? I'm really surprised the actual files haven't leaked.
The "actual files" are in the control of the government. They're the stuff that was taken from Epstein's houses and off his hard drive, and include the tapes that he was rumored to keep on various people through his cameras.
Some of it has already been released, whether through the Maxwell case, through Epstein's case, or now in the grand jury materials, which have been unsealed.
Other people, like the estate, have stuff as well, which is what the Democrats on House Judiciary have been releasing. The survivors are compiling their own list for their own purposes but are rightfully afraid of retaliation if they themselves release it.
Thanks to his DOGE posse, Musk claimed he has the files and that Trump is in them. Also, why wouldn't Thiel and Palantir Technologies also have easy access to any digitized material? The DOJ is run by clodhoppers and a plastic grifter.
There lies the answer!
Maybe check the notorious Maralago bathroom for some? Probably room for more in there after the FBI cleaned it out a few years ago. And Epstein files would match the room's decor and august history better than the Smithsonian.
I am still not over that cheap-ass shower curtain.
Hahaha! So tacky.
I think I've heard the FBI has 4 TBs of digital data on Epstein.
If anyone has the files release them. You will be a national no world hero. 🦸
Perhaps there was something they were trying to conceal with all those redactions!?
Likely Trump’s guilty ass!
Is there still a thing called an 'investigative journalist'?? Or are they now just stenographers scribbling the latest bunch of lies and propaganda from the babbling idiot cult.
No and yes. Investigating doesn’t pay well.
Never really did Pam!
Since it’s unlikely they were wiped, I’d bet someone has a copy, he faces prison time the second he’s no longer president though, holding that thought brings a measure of satisfaction Butch!
Guess not.
Which young DOGE hacker is dreaming of personal riches Kay?
Well, we know it isn’t Elmo. Or is it? 🤔
He is pushing to become a member of the trillionaire club Kay!
Indeed.
Please do
Ah yes… that tasty “Go fuck yourself pie”. 😂😂. The bold audacity of the regime makes one think they’re damned sure they’ll make it through this unscathed.
Please hear our prayer all the gods, and let justice be done.
I’m so sick of this crap.
I fucking hate this admin and everyone who voted for it. Ugh. Can I go live on Mars with the NASA robots?
Costa Rica has nicer beaches ⛱️
And a stable government, which is why they're trying to keep Kilmar from going there even though Costa Rica has said they'll take him.
And they don’t hate Americans yet.
Mars is pretty much uninhabitable, which is why the sooner Elon and PayPal mafia go there the better.
I fucking hate the PayPal mafia
Techno fascists. Vance is tight with that crowd.
Double the hate for Elon.
Toss the Silicon Valley billionaire Bro’s in that hate, and we’re together Doc!
Remember,Elon rules the denizens inside Mars in his favorite book Bob.
He’s king of Martians.
What’s the difference this is an outrage, I mad!
Moving to another country might be preferable Alison!
OUR fucking tax money paid for those hours of redaction!🤑😱
Our money is being used to withhold justice from those victims. Let that sink in.
Some good news —
Articles of Impeachment and inherent contempt charges sidestep, the DOJ, the executive branch and the Supreme Court.
That’s why they are currently seeking that path — and I know this is crazy but some ACTUAL accountability!
Fun fact: The inherent contempt charge is carried out by the Sargent of Arms, which is why they sought that vs the contempt charge.
Interesting. Thanks.
Then it needs to be done now. Not after the holidays, not when maga Mikey with the orange nose calls them back to session. Swift and severe action NOW! Massie and MTG said they would read the names on the floor - so do it NOW! I fear they are going to use the holidays as the excuse. They f@@ked lots of people out of Christmas with pending insurance increases, higher prices on everything so get to work. Do it NOW! Those papers should have been written and submitted at 12:01 AM on December 20th. I am BIG mad. They think we are all idiots if they call this transparency. F@@k them.
They can't read the names on the floor, because they are not on the floor.
Well, if brown nose Bondi doesn’t come up with the goods she’s going to see herself at an impeachment hearing and charged with inherent contempt.
She'll hit new heights of being pissy in that case.
Bondi,Bessent,Ludnick, Hegseth,etc, I'm hoping to someday see that those arrogant little smirks wiped off their dumb fucking faces.
She will just refuse to answer as she did before.
Definitely the cats and dogs ate the evidence.
Utter and absolute contempt for the rule of law. Their attitude is "And who's gonna stop us?"
That’s an Ayn Rand quote. That’s one reason the right loves her. She was a selfish, hypocritical fuck. Took Medicare late in life after railing against socialism. Uh huh.
remember standing up for right?
let the mutherfukers know WE ARE ANTIFA! ANTI FASCISM!
Yes! Who IS going to stop them? Or as others have suggested, which GenZ genius will press Send?
IDK,but I believe the first step is winning the midterms next year to stop the bleeding.
Bruce, crossing my fingers that there will be a midterm election.
Well, they have a point.
What's buried in those pedophiles
Is Donald Drumpf's name in great piles
With pages of yuck-o
Of that malignant fuck-o
A cover up, no bull, for miles.
Would be cool to see this poem superimposed on the sketched outline of a nude girl's body from Trump's birthday card to Epstein. And projected on Trump Tower -- or the Washington Monument.
You are my hero, Frosty.
👏👏👏
Frosty - seriously you should collect all of your limericks and consider publishing them… of course you will need several more, but it’s an endless amount of fuckery out there to work with!
Well done, again!!!
Hi Dave,
Thank you so much! I think it's a fantastic idea. I wonder how I would go about this.. maybe self publishing?
“The Works of Frosty”
Bestseller, but not amongst MAGAs. Self publishing or a Substack page as Robert suggests.
Sounds good! I'll have to figure out how to do that. Thank you!
Or start a Substack page: that doesn't cost anything
Do you know how to do that? I have a Substack, but I don't know how to do anything with it. Thanks so much, Robert.
Open it and find the New Post button
I did that. Thanks!
Impeach and disbar Bondi, fire and disbar everyone who tool a black magic marker to those files. These people either think it’s okay for grown men to stick their penises into little girls or will look the other way to keep their jobs. How disgusting. Prosecute the men. Believe the girls.
This is so true!!! Raping little girls is so evil!! And getting a pass on it from his administration should piss off all Americans!! Epstein and trump seemed to think it funny that they could do this . We know trump doesn't respect women. Pretty obvious, the way he talks so ugly to women reporters and gives the women in the White House the job of lying and harping. I really hate them all.
Clearly, females’ health, security, and self sovereignty matter not one whit to the GOP. Women and children exist to be used, controlled, and exploited. It’s all a sick, inside joke to them. Remember trump saying he was going to protect women?
Well, he lied to women. That's all he does, lies He needs KARMA.
When my son was a child and I asked if he’d cleaned up his room, he made sure I looked in any room except his room and especially his closet. Anyway, about the Epstein files….
That's about the age level we're dealing with here.
Is anyone surprised that this is what’s happening? Coulda seen this coming all along.
I was surprised at the extent of it. Removing files that were available previously? Adding in unrelated pictures of Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, and Bill Clinton with children, in fact Ross’s and Jackson’s own children?
Exactly! Their actions are very "telling"!
The whole administration should be sent to CECOT in El Salvador until the Epstein files are released!!! Goddamn, I am so angry!!
LOCK HIM UP!
LOCK HIM UP!
I’m so sick and tired of this fucking Epstein files bullshit I could scream, and I would, except the neighbors, who can’t mind their own ghatdang business, would call the police again.
Thanks Jeff…we are ALL so SICK OF THESE LYING_______ (fill in the blank).😡
We need a longer blank!
MOTHERFUCKERS