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Susan Niemann's avatar

"first of all, holy shit.

and second of all, holy shit." 😂😂

That about sums it up. The sleaze and heinous behavior of this depraved old asshole will never be forgotten. And no, White House...the Epstein story is not "calming" down. It's heating up.

I hate everybody. Except you guys.

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rlritt's avatar

Why do his religious supporters allow it? A reporter asked a pastor from a large Church about Trump's immorality. The Minister said, with a giggle, well, we know he's no saint, but he will give us what we want. Kind of like if I hired a child molester to babysit my kids because he's good with children.

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Susan Niemann's avatar

Gross. I guess decency is too much work for those hypocrites.

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arne link's avatar

It's all about the Benjamins. These "pastors" live large.

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Sharon Hudnall's avatar

Exactly. Some sheep were born to be fleeced.

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Mary Hall's avatar

"An early objection I had with Christianity at school was being told I was part of a flock. Shepherds don't look after sheep because they like them. They either want to fleece them, fuck them or eat them."

-- Christopher Hitchins

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Dr J's Sanity Space's avatar

Hitchens was so right - miss him

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J.R.'s avatar

Brilliant quote!

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Susan Niemann's avatar

Hitchins was spot on. 👏👏👏

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rlritt's avatar

Bingo!

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

...Fleeced, eaten, or fucked. (that is the old wisdom about why shepherds keep sheep, (and it is not because they like them)

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Ah Mary gave the source, thank you for that.

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Rosemary Orlandi's avatar

It's the "prosperity" gospel.

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arne link's avatar

Yeah, prosperity for me and not for thee.

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Bob's avatar

It’s the kind of scam that Trump admires and now emulates.

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A.J. Madison's avatar

GoP Jesus, on YouTube. Enjoy.

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Katrina Nuciforo's avatar

They like the GOOD wine and the YOUNG BOYS. I HATE RELIGION

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Mary Hall's avatar

I have found that I don't need religion because I have a working conscience.

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Rick Calegari's avatar

Decency is not in the vocabulary of these sick imbeciles. The more they try to cover their endless bullshit up, the deeper the hole gets. Dear Cheater is so wackadoddle these days, he can't keep his stories straight and it's only going to get worse and more bizarre.

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Dr J's Sanity Space's avatar

Hope springs eternal😬

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🌷IntheHalloftheMtnKing's avatar

They had to know but for them it wasn't a deal breaker. Now how insane is that???!!! 🤢

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

That must have been the pastor from the Holy Church of Hypocrisy that I’ve heard so much about.

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Katrina Nuciforo's avatar

Which one🧐

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Susan P Thatcher's avatar

Their brains are melting down right now from the cognitive dissonance. DON'T FORGET: Falwell, Jr came out strong for him AFTER Michael Cohen got the pool boy mess covered up, and the Second Generation Con Artist owed Cohen a favor.

And they're hypocrites. How many youth pastors are being hauled off these days?

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Hundreds, those who keep track are well over two hundred.

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Dave Drell's avatar

“We know he’s no saint” - that is so insulting to those who follow the words of JC.. Can that “pastor” immediately

and send a message

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Mary Greenwald's avatar

That minister's flock love him because he makes them feel good every damned Sunday!

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Gout Machine's avatar

I'm old enough to remember when, during the Clinton years, the only thing that mattered was the "character" of the president.

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rlritt's avatar

Only for a Democratic President.

Republican Presidents are backed by the Christian fascists, they are beloved of God so don't have to be morally upright.

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

See: Ronnie Raygun.

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Maribeth Ackerman's avatar

I am old. I remember when people were fleeing the Republican party because they were horrified by Watergate. They needed warm bodies to join the party, the Evangelicals were available, so every Republican politician grabbed a bible. Their famous pastors got a seat at the table and their flock got sheared.

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Ruth Anne Leibman's avatar

I am also old and remember the horrors of Watergate, which seem like choirboy antics by comparison. But I remember the "moral majority" of the Reagan era, and saw this bumper sticker: The moral majority is neither So the republicans went after the bible thumpers and the two somehow found common ground. And the flock, well they're sheeple after all.

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A.J. Madison's avatar

It was called "The Southern Strategy." Nixon started it, but in his absence, the GQP worked this recruiting method hard, culminating in electing a perverse governor hated by his state as president.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

I had that bumper sticker.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Reagan welcomed them in despite Goldwater's accurate prophecy, and Goldwater was pretty awful himself.

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Maribeth Ackerman's avatar

The last decent Republican President was Eisenhower. And that was a LONG time ago.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes, that is true. He warned us about the military Industrial complex.

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rlritt's avatar

Absolutely, but this is now so ingrained in our economy, it would impossible to remove.

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Linda Weide's avatar

The "church" as it is called, both breeds and harbors pedophiles.

Baptists

https://galiherlaw.com/child-sex-abuse-cover-up-allegations-rock-southern-baptist-convention/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Southern_Baptist_churches

More on that.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/02/1102621352/how-the-southern-baptist-convention-covered-up-its-widespread-sexual-abuse-scand

Catholics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

Methodists

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32909444

https://www.timesunion.com/capitol/article/former-methodist-pastor-accused-sex-abusing-19518305.php

Christian Nationalists

https://www.texasobserver.org/pastor-texas-gop-christian-nationalism-sex-abuse/https://news.berkeley.edu/2022/09/20/crisis-of-faith-christian-nationalism-and-the-threat-to-u-s-democracy/

Mormons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_abuse_cases

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/08/mormon-church-child-sex-abuse-allegations-california

Lutheran

https://www.whitelawpllc.com/faqs/sexual-abuse-in-lutheran-churches/

Presbyterian

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2023/06/presbyterian-church-in-america-abuse-response/

http://loriwatsonlawfirm.com/sexual%20abuse%20by%20presbyterian%20ministers.html

Anabaptist/Mennonite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptist/Mennonite_Church_sexual_misconduct_cases

Amish

https://www.witf.org/2022/05/06/clothes-spotlight-sex-abuse-in-amish-mennonites-and-similar-groups-known-for-their-plain-dress/

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/797804404/investigation-into-child-sex-abuse-in-amish-communities

Orthodox

https://www.ecaglobal.org/facts-tell-another-story-in-orthodox-churches-of-russia-greece-and-serbia/

https://www.pressherald.com/2016/04/28/maine-supreme-court-upholds-greek-orthodox-priests-sex-abuse-conviction/

Assemblies of God

https://www.lawsuit-information-center.com/royal-rangers-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-settlement.html

Seventh Day Adventists

https://www.hughjames.com/blog/child-abuse-allegations-and-the-seventh-day-adventist-church/

Jehovah's Witnesses

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/21/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sexual-abuse

https://www.cascadepbs.org/news/2022/10/jehovahs-witness-church-covered-child-sex-abuse-survivors-say/

Secretive Christian Sect

https://youtu.be/Of28SnjF1hM?si=4fZPCttcj1qfOqIV

So, I would hope church members would be up in arms about their neighbors children that they go to church with, because this is also a power dynamic just like all those politicians Epstein has on his list. But, they don't care about the people they know, and probably don't believe them.

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rlritt's avatar

I just had flash. Why do so many creepy old men, especially the religious, abuse children.

It's because women, deep down in their subconscious, are considered evil, and they are afraid of them. Children are powerless.

Maybe everyone already knows this and I'm late to the game.

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Lisa K. Obrien's avatar

Women are nothing more than a necessary evil to some men. They really do hate women, probably (in part) because they ARE afraid of them. I read something that struck me recently and I’ll paraphrase. Why do we need feminism? It just teaches women to hate men. We need feminism because men hate women. I’ve seen that played out over and over since I was a teenager.

I will add that I’ve been married for 40 years to the Coolest Guy Ever, and we’ve raised two excellent feminist sons (married to strong women). I’ve always had a lot of male friends and I’ve worked in predominantly male workplaces. But I’ve seen so many women victimized, shamed, and hurt (raped!) for one reason. Some men just hate women, and women need to be aware of that.

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rlritt's avatar

I agree. It is deeply ingrained in a lot of men and in many cultures.

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T L Mills's avatar

The Evangelicals WANT this country to be a theocracy...if they think Donny is going to give it to them...they probably ought to think again.

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A.J. Madison's avatar

I'd put what they think deep in the "Be Careful What You Wish For, You Might Get It" category. 14th century christianity was brutal in its enforcement of the rules, the flock's devotion to the church AND the king (installed by the church). Authoritarians hate any kind of dissent. Just because you're a wealthy church pastor, doesn't mean you're in the top leadership. I'm sure Dwumpy is excited about bringing back the spanish inquisition. Sure heritage foundation becomes the new national government. Everyone else, screwed.

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Robert Eckert's avatar

"I'm sure Dwumpy is excited about bringing back the spanish inquisition." Who expected that?

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rlritt's avatar

Ha, ha! You win "Best movie reference in a comment" today.

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Linda Weide's avatar

He gives it to them and they make up a reason why he does not have to follow any of the rules they want to impose on the rest of us, and he steals everything in sight. Because there are adults who believe the crazy end of times stories they have been taught and told, and that is what they live for.

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Nevertheless, She Persisted's avatar

The religious supporters love to say that "God works in mysterious ways!" and then they compare Trump to King David, renowned scoundrel in the Old Testament, but God had a soft spot for him for some reason.

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Lisa K. Obrien's avatar

These religions are all fixated on ‘authority’ - God is on top, men second, and women and children on the bottom. Women and especially children have no agency; they are there to obey the men. The men purportedly are doing God’s work, but as we’ve seen, their Bible can be interpreted pretty broadly.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And since god is an absentee, deadbeat dad, (at best) they get to be god!

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Lisa K. Obrien's avatar

You betcha. The one way they can be ‘special’.

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Linda Weide's avatar

They also believe that color makes one more or less human. Never mind when they tan or get dark brown in the summer. Then color does not count.

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Stranger Than Friction's avatar

The Manchurian Cantaloupe helped Americans to turn over the rock that is their civic life and...look at all of the roaches under there!

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Linda McCaughey's avatar

Religion: the biggest con job of all time.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Because their leaders do it too, claiming it is "biblical". Some of them are so poor they would happily sell their young daughters to the higher-ups in their church.

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Bonnie Council's avatar

Giving "us what we want" basically means looking the other way when they preach politics from the pulpit while remaining tax exempt. The ministers are as immoral as trump, Epstein and the whole slimy lot of MAGAts.

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Lisa K. Obrien's avatar

I think ‘what they want’ was - and is - to have abortion (then birth control) outlawed.

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rlritt's avatar

Because why else should women exist?

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Katrina Nuciforo's avatar

Sounds about right especially in the catholic world

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Katrina Nuciforo's avatar

Because WE DOER KNEW THE PLAN WE DOD NOTICE

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Cheryl ODonnell's avatar

Holy fuck

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Susan Kemp's avatar

I think the tech bros’ plan was to let Donny be president for just over two years, then force him to step down and have president Vance (gag) pardon him. Vance would be eligible to finish that term and run for the office himself the next two elections for a total of ten years. By the time that ten years was over they would have transformed the US government into their board of directors of all the “smartest” men who control the CEO president. The increasing furor over Epstein is throwing a monkey wrench into those plans.

Part one of that plan is in jeopardy because Shitler’s brains have indeed turned into rancid pudding and is getting worse by the day in addition to the mounting, not waning, anger over Epstein. The amount of election “stealing” that will be required to get Vance elected even once will be mind boggling and Donny himself is working on the cheating schemes.

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Dr J's Sanity Space's avatar

It has been really hard to hold on to this thought but history shows these poor excuses for a human sooner or later reach a point where decent people arise & destroy the sham

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Michael Johnson's avatar

Yep. jd is Thiel's boy, bought and paid for. But I think tRump is dying, right before our eyes, and that may have indeed been part of the overall "plan."

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

🙏

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Linda Weide's avatar

Exactly. It is going to be hard to make it last the 2 years that is needed so that JDV can run 2 times after taking over. If he takes over before 2 years, he can only run 1 more time because more than half is considered most of the presidency.

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Exactly Linda, had Trump actually done the job asked of him in his first term, the billionaire oligarchic overlords would have incinerated our democracy already!

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Well, that's a conspiracy theory I haven't considered until now...

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Susan Kemp's avatar

The tech bros’s desire to have their board of directors with a CEO president isn’t a conspiracy theory. But, yes, the Vance as president part is. That doesn’t make it wrong, just unproven.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

It is very obvious, though, why else would Theil shoehorn in an unqualified candidate, with a couple of years in the senate, as VP?

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Timothy Reid's avatar

Susan, I have been thinking somewhat the same as you ...

if Prez DJ doesn't die first, I believe someone will leak something he can't deny (although he lies about video footage at one of his rallies and says the wrong thing: fake news!) and have him impeached with no safety net, or he will "fall down some stairs" somewhere convenient (no cameras or viable witnesses) and he be declared dead.

Hollywood gave us some insight of this possibility in an unlikely place ... the movie Dave with Kevin Kline, Sigourney Weaver released in 1993. I like the movie but it made me wonder how much information that is presented about the WH shenanigans is true, partially true, or total lies. Check out the summary of the movie.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106673/

Thank you for your post, Susan. There are always great comments about Jeff's posts.

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insert_something_creative's avatar

I totally buy this, including the fact that PAB's rapidly deteriorating brain and body is making things more difficult for them.

The biggest hurdle I see in that plan more long term is JD Vance himself. He has the charisma of a wet paper bag and doesn't have the cult following. You are right that it would require an insane amount of rigging or otherwise cheating in the election for him to have a shot at winning.

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Joan Diehl's avatar

I’m with you Susan. I do believe that is the plan. And when that happens, Vance will send Vought packing. Why? Because Vance and the billionaires have their own plan. It will make Vought’s project 2025 feel like a walk in the park.

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Mary Lou Williams's avatar

I totally agree with your prediction.

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Katrina Nuciforo's avatar

Gee thanks now I’m even more disgusted 🤢

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Heritage Foundation, Claremont Institute and Federalist Society planned your thoughts in Trumps first term Susan. They found Trump far too ignorant and narcissistic his first go round.

They picked his cabinet for him in this term… successfully!!

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Bob Bowden's avatar

I’d say “I smell a rat”, but it’s hard to detect the scent of rat behind the smell of the rat’s loaded adult diaper as he discharges the entire contents of a 49 year old can of Glade in our faces

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Tess's avatar

Couldn’t have said it better Susan!

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Susan Niemann's avatar

When will Americans say enough? I mean, this is sick shit. Has humanity sunk this low? 😭😭😭

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

As a historian, I can reliably report that humanity has always been this low. We just had a break in this country for some of our history.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

We had an “ignorance break,” where we all thought that our elected officials worked for us and had good intentions for governance. As a historian, Kathleen, you know better than I that this has been going on since 1776. They tell us whatever it takes to keep us compliant.

Those days are over. I see clearly now.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

One thing about history is that it can take a turn. There were several points in the life of the Roman Empire where it looked every like everything was over, but then it reconstituted itself. I'd like to point out to people that the most destructive event of human history was World War II, but the damage has long since been repaired.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

True, but we were the good guys in WWII.

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Mary Greenwald's avatar

Really! I assume you are also speaking of Hungary. And Ukraine. And Africa.

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Hard to repair man’s greed and quest for power Kathleen, wars are still being waged, the collapse of humanity is still happening!

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Mary Greenwald's avatar

1776 and Beyond. . .when slaves were kept in bondage, when women were not allowed to vote or own property (all the while running the Plantation while dear hubby was off in Washington and Paris screwing everything in the area) and only the landowners had any rights. We are still with dear Jefferson and Washington today.

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shee-rah's avatar

The McCarthy era was a period when democracy was in danger.

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Little Nell's avatar

Yes. And I agree with Ms. Weber: humanity has always been this low. I wonder, however, if the behavior of the israelis - who appear to be getting away with the genocide if the Palestinians with absolutely no consequences, in broad daylight, right out in the open, hasn’t opened up a sub basement of immorality, indecency and inhumanity that the species was hitherto unaware of?

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Mary Greenwald's avatar

YES!!!

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Marty's avatar

Yes.

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Linda Weide's avatar

We need the Aberdeen Truck Guy to drive all over the US!

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Susan Niemann's avatar

I call shotgun! 😂😂😂

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Elizabeth Ratkovich's avatar

I believe Jeff meant to say:

“first of all, holy shit

and second of all, holy FUCKING shit.”

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Jacqueline Klein's avatar

Did you really need to ask that? Donny will say anything no matter how dumb as long as there is a camera and mic pointed right at his empty orange head.

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Walter's avatar

I feel like you do all the time.

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Charles Austin's avatar

Third of all,HOLY SHIT!! 😂😂😂😂

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Alison Parker's avatar

"why would Donny call attention to this?"

His brain is a bowl of pudding left out in the sun in Phoenix for five days and sprinkled with minced Quaaludes.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

OR his brain is a bowl of pudding left out in the sun in South Florida for 7 days and insect larvae have already begun to hatch out.

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rlritt's avatar

I agree. The way he talks is like he just rambles from topic to topic and doesn't really have any substance or cohesion.

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Mary Hall's avatar

"... flinging word-adjacent noises at reporters...." That description was downright poetic.

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arne link's avatar

He is spiraling, circling the drain. I just wish nature would hurry up.

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Rosemary Orlandi's avatar

You nailed it. Perfect description of the meeting in Scotland. lol

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PTW's avatar

Besides the obvious brain fading, I will just add that he physically looks like shit. He looked particularly disheveled while in Scotland---sweaty running makeup, swirly comb-over was greasy, not the usual fluffed up whirl of cotton candy, swollen cankles.

Fingers crossed. We will deal with Jelly Donut Vance when needed.

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shee-rah's avatar

“Jelly Donut” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Mingo's avatar

Hey, I'm in Phoenix and my brain is not a bowl of pudding from the heat. At least not yet thanks to central air conditioning. I can't speak for others whom I suspect the heat has definitely fried their brains. There's still MAGA zombies wandering around acting like assclowns. They like to call themselves "constitutionalists".

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Alison Parker's avatar

I didn't say his brain was pudding because of Phoenix. I said it was already pudding which was then subjected to being baked to hell in Phoenix.

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rlritt's avatar

Which is weird since Trump considers the Constitution to be just a list of suggestions.

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Robert Eckert's avatar

There is no evidence he considers the Constitution to even be suggestions.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Not Libertarians?

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Mingo's avatar

I've attended several city council meetings when the public gets to speak on the councils agenda. Invariably it's an old white person who rambles on about what they don't like what the city is doing because they are a constitutionalist. I'm an old white person and I don't get their point.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Actually, in my city, we old white people complain that the city council is in the pay of developers. Looking at you, Berkeley. Corruption starting to rival the republicans in Congress, and you should see our state senator and assembly"member".

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Susan Niemann's avatar

👏👏👏👏👏

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Debra Slater's avatar

The facts don't matter; all he cared about was that former towel girl did not implicate "us" in the case against Maxwell and he wanted to remind everyone of that fact.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Haven’t seen a Quaalude since 1980.

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Cathy Wray's avatar

Walt, that recent?

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

I think it was about then. Never got an appreciation for that drug. I recall one lost night, on a date with a lady I had been pursuing for months. Thought I would dabble in the Quaalude world and had the bad judgment to try one before the date…went quickly to sleep…had no fun…and no more dates with the lovely lady in question. 🥺

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Cheri Collins's avatar

🤣😂🤣 I always wanted to try one, but never did.

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Charles Austin's avatar

I saw a lot of people fuck up big time on them.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Umm, 1974.

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

I wish someone here would play bagpipes every time he speaks

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Robert Eckert's avatar

While he plays the accordion....

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Betsy L's avatar

That Ron DuhSantis scooped his fingers through.

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Linda McCaughey's avatar

Fabulous analogy!!!

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Cheryl Seybert's avatar

😂😂great post!!

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Steve houlette's avatar

This is very good

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Bikracer's avatar

🤮 ew

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Nicely painted picture Alison!!

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Kay-El's avatar

Donny loves the little children

All the little children of the world

Jeffrey Epstein did as well

That’s why he’s resting there in hell

Hoping Donny joins him soon as possi-ble!

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Betsy L's avatar

OMG. I'll never be able to volunteer at a vacation Bible school again. I wouldn't be able to sing that without cracking up.

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247kath's avatar

😂🤣Well done Kay-El

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Karen Rockwell's avatar

somewhere in the afterworld, my Sunday school teacher is weeping.

(I'd like to think Mrs. Gherke would NOT have accepted his BS)

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

BRAVA Kay-El! Jesus would be so proud!

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T L Mills's avatar

Excellent, Kay-El!

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Charles Austin's avatar

😂😂😂 Excellent!

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Leslie Goodman-Malamuth's avatar

The main “stolen person” of note from Mar-a-Lago was Virginia Roberts, the name by which the teenager was trafficked by Maxwell, Epstein, Trump, and others. Not until she left them and married was she called Giuffre. After she died, when a reporter asked Trump about “Virginia Giuffre,” he didn’t reply with his customary, “Who?” He mumbled, “Terrible thing, terrible thing.” Nobody followed up on that.

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Jeff Tiedrich's avatar

good point, thanks

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Didn’t realize Virginia Giuffre had killed herself until I read it this morning. These heinous acts by pedo’s take less than an hour, yet, for the victims, it lasts a lifetime.

RIP Virginia.

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Leslie Goodman-Malamuth's avatar

I’m not convinced that Virginia Giuffre died by suicide. May her memory endure as a blessing.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Virginia was trafficked all over the world. I saw a video made by 60 Minutes Australia on YouTube where she spoke of the abuse and where two other women were interviewed also. Virginia met her husband, I believe, in Australia, and they had three children together. I believe they were married for something like 20 years. They separated because he allegedly abused her and she documented it. I am not a celebrity whore but America failed Virginia and the other girls/women. We CANNOT allow Ghislaine to be pardoned! Here’s an article in People: https://people.com/giuffre-wrote-of-abuse-in-diary-entries-before-death-11765439Giuffre Wrote of Abuse in Diary Entries Before Death

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FTrump And FPutin Too's avatar

Page not found 😣

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

People is not a good source anyway.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Well, the story is new to me and what I read said that the death was not “suspicious.” Whatever that means.

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Sharon Hudnall's avatar

Giufffre brought down one of the big fish, Prince Andrew, with whom she reached a settlement of about $3 million in 2022 for sexual assault and emotional damages. Andrew can still be extradicted and prosecuted in the U.S., however. VIrginia was trafficked to Andrew in 2001, so there was money to be made -- and fought over -- by her pimps.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

That shows how much she was hurt by Epstein and the boys. Even millions of dollars couldn’t help her through it. She should be the poster girl for the entire fiasco.

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Deborah Hunter's avatar

Just like Epstein's death, Ivana's death were not suspicious. I'm not a conspiracy theorist nor do I have inside information about these deaths. But I think there are some questions that aren't answered. Ivana was to testify days after she died in depositions relating to Trump's businesses. Of course they were cancelled. Who buries their ex on their golf course without a decent burial and headstone? Why was the casket so heavy to carry if it only had her ashes in it? Hmm. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they ever dug her up that there are documents in that casket. I never thought Epstein killed himself. And this Epstein file stuff was going to hit the fan and suddenly Virginia kills herself? Getting to be like Russians being poisoned and suddenly falling out of windows. We all know that there is enough money in our government and people that are able to cover anything up.

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Sharon Hudnall's avatar

Also, international interests. Israeli Secret Service Mossad. Or M16 (British Military Intelligence). Plus, Epstein (and Trump) were money laundering billions. These are not your average pedos.

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Deborah Hunter's avatar

Agreed. Because where did Epstein get all of his money? I think he was a major player in this whole thing that helped supply the girls. Trump recruited them at Mar A Lago, his beauty pageants and modeling start ups. I think very powerful/wealthy men were involved and the girls were afraid to talk later. It’s a very dark, ugly side of the rich and powerful that most of us never see because we don’t socialize in that world.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Yeah, what was up with that ridiculously heavy casket?

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Deborah Hunter's avatar

The rest of the classified documents that Trump stole. Weren't there trips made to Bedminister from Florida and boxes of documents around the time that the FBI raided the Fla roach motel and right before? Sorry if I'm confused - there's been non stop news about Trump for 9 years now and I'm on overload.

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Kay-El's avatar

It means there’s not enough evidence to convict.

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PTW's avatar
2dEdited

Maybe. Or could be "not suspicious" in the same way Epstein's death was "not suspicious." Or that that "camera view of Epstein's cell" released to prove that no one else had entered his cell before being found "suicided" is not even in the same wing of that jail. Or Ivana Trump's casket being so heavy it needed 10 struggling pallbearers, and then buried on donald's private golf course. "Not suspicious" at all.

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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

The thing about pathological liars is that eventually they start confessing through their cover stories. Trump’s latest ramble sounds less like a defense and more like a deposition he forgot wasn’t sealed. Every time he opens his mouth about Epstein, the timeline gets shadier, the spa euphemisms get creepier, and the trail of self-incrimination gets longer. You’d think a guy with lawyers would know when to shut up. But no — he’s out here snitching on himself like it’s performance art.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Take a hard look at the “quality” of his legal team.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Just a glimpse should be enough. Bove, Habba, how many felony cases did they lose? Obviously, t loves losers.

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Robert Eckert's avatar

Or rather, winners know better than to work for him

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

" Spa girls " give " massages " .

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Diana Hembree's avatar

In this case, it seems like Giuffre was a locker room attendant who gave out towels and may have given non-sexual massages -- from her accounts the abuse began with Epstein. Perhaps Mar-a-Lago was a recruiting ground for him; it certainly sounds like it. I mentioned Giuffre in an article last week and keep having to update it..https://mindsitenews.org/2025/07/25/will-the-forgotten-victims-of-epsteins-sex-trafficking-find-healing/

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And towels to naked sweaty pedos.

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arne link's avatar

OMG, that truck! The Dems should be driving that truck all over swing states. We also need to hire bagpipers of our own. Small investment with a big impact. I hope the powers that be read your Substack.

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Betsy L's avatar

I'm sure an entire Shriners bagpipe unit would be happy to assist for a donation to their childrens' hospitals. Maybe they'll bring the guys in the little cars with them.

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arne link's avatar

Brilliant.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

The Shriners are mostly Republican, I was sexually harassed by one I worked for.

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Betsy L's avatar

I'm sorry that happened to you. I don't doubt that most of them are Republicans. My dad would have been a MAGAt if he were still alive. He was a narcissist like Dumpy - in fact, a lot of Dumpy's gestures and speech patterns are like my dad's. I can't stand to watch him or listen to him because of that.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Or one old lady with a bullhorn.

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Mary Hall's avatar

I volunteer!

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Absolutely! Every t rally should have a least one bagpiper! Loud, so no one wants to get near them. Leave, even.

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shee-rah's avatar

I saw a clip on TV news where Dumbass was speaking on a stage in Scotland and someone in the audience was playing the bagpipes so that you could not hear him speak. I don’t know if this video was someone’s creation or if it was an actual event, but I had a good laugh.

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Neal Stiffelman's avatar

The jelly in his skull cavity is incapable of not fucking this up. Of not fucking anything up. He’s a fat marionette. Them what’s pulling the strings know he has entertainment value for the rubes and guarantees eyeballs for their suckass “news” sites. Them what calls theirselves WH correspondents don’t have the balls to confront even the stupidest of the stupids on anything. And there’s plenty of opportunities.

Jeebus.

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rlritt's avatar

You are 100% right. There are people behind the scenes that use him to distract us while they get their minions to lower taxes, gut protections for people and the environment. It just totally sucks, and they have probably been planning this for years.

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Lisa's avatar

Project 25 didn't come out of thin air, that's for sure.

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rlritt's avatar

Just an example

Arkansas relies significantly on federal funding to support its state and local government operations. In fact, Arkansas is among the states that have a higher-than-average percentage of their total state revenues derived from federal sources.

In FY 2022, 36.8% of Arkansas government revenues came from federal transfers. This was 10.3 percentage points higher than the average across all states.

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shee-rah's avatar

The WH correspondents who ask questions that he doesn’t like and write articles that he doesn’t agree with are then banned from the Oval Office press pool.

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HI2thDoc's avatar

Spot on, Jeff. He is such a fucking blabbermouth, which is why I wonder if he was ever a Russian asset as some assert. More like a lapdog with yoooge kompromat on him

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

His pre-election comments were so indicative of his loss of control. “We don’t need any more votes. You’re never going to have to vote again.”

So damning.

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Mary Hall's avatar

I always thought that comment referred to Eloon's magic computers that magically change votes to the "R" candidate.

There are precincts in NY where Dem Sentor Kristen Gillibrand won in a landslide but where Kamala received ZERO votes. The math ain't mathin' and hopefully the election interference lawsuit underway in Rockland County, NY will shed some light on this fkery.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

That’s what I’m talking about, Mary. The truth always comes out. Will it be in time?

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

No, it should have been started right after the phony election

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Deborah Hunter's avatar

I don't believe the results in NV. Democratic senator won, all 4 House seats in Vegas went Dem except 1 GOP, yet NV turned red? BS. There aren't enough votes up north in NV to turn the state red unless Vegas is red also. I know of no one who would vote for Rosen (Senator) and a dem House member, but then votes for Trump at the top of their ticket? Makes no sense. Mine isn't the only swing state that turned Red yet downvoted Dem.

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Mary Hall's avatar

No way did T💩p win all seven swing states. NFW! Kamala was having to change to larger venues to accommodate her crowds while T💩p's venues were largely empty. That, coupled with the masses activated due to the abortion bans everywhere and the fact that our economy was the best in the world under the Biden administration. Plus, T💩p and Eloon were bragging about stealing the election numerous times.

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

100%, but Dems didn’t start an investigation & now the judiciary will take far too long

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Mary Hall's avatar

Would that it were but Dems have no power. Rethuglicans control everything including the media.

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Mary Greenwald's avatar

Not sure about that. Gillibrand is WHITE. and RELIGIOUS. However, she also voted AYE so many time for Trump's Cabinet choices perhaps the magic computers were part of the bargain.

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Mary Hall's avatar

I am no fan of Gillibrand (she forced Al Franken to leave the Senate), but to say that NO ONE voted for Kamala in an entire precinct that voted overwhelmingly for her is a stretch too far for me and apparently the judge ruling on this case who allowed it to go forward into the Discovery phase. Trial is in September. Stay tuned, it could get verrrrrrry interesting.

IMHO, the best way we can show the world that we are not all MAGAt morons is to prove that T💩p and Eloon STOLE the election from Kamala.

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Deborah Hunter's avatar

I don't understand why the Dems didn't contest this in November, 2024 if they thought there were voting irregularities. Totally spineless. The GOP is still whining about 2020, 5 years later.

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Mary Hall's avatar

I hear ya. There are a couple of schools of thought on this. One is that the Dems didn't want to appear as whiny little babies like the MAGAts were in 2020. The second is that there is a huge world-wide sting operation going on to ensnare child traffickers and other heinous criminals and that it just takes time to accomplish.

Kamala was leaving "Easter eggs" in places right after the election, saying things like, "It's always darkest before the dawn" and as she and Biden were entering the Rotunda on 1/20/25 for T💩p's inauguration she said loud enough for people to hear, "Justice will prevail." Who the hell knows? I just keep showing up at my local protests with my sign that reads: Too much sh!t to list on one sign.

The Dems are largely a feckless group half of whom are in bed with the bad guys, but they are still better than the Rethuglicans any day.

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

Exactly!

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

She totally SCREWED Al Franken. I don't care for the prudish Gillibrand.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yep, I dislike her knifing him in the back, she helped the republicans there, he was an excellent critic and got Jeff Sessions to recuse himself from the Russia investigation, which he never planned to do until Franken shamed him into it.

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

Yet, he got away with it

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Betsy L's avatar

His Russian asset handle was Krasnov. Pravda published an article on its front page about Putin expects a good return on his investment.

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

He’s getting it

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

Oh, he is an asset. Recall his first Oval Office meeting with the Russian Foreign Minister and ambassador--alone with them and a cameraman. And didn't he send Paul to Moscow with secret papers?

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Carl Selfe's avatar

Now is our moment—take action against this harmful government. Covering up a pedophile ring. Ignoring court orders. Blatant corruption. The poor, the needy, and children are being abused—by our government. In the streets we must protest outright crooks and the pedophiles until after their shooting us starts, until we go down or we oust tyrants. I made 54 protest signs, and will make many more to share. You will see something different in these signs! Help yourself to this second batch, and share them as far as you can.

https://hotbuttons.substack.com/p/more-free-protest-signs?r=3m1bs

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

These are fabulous! Bride of 50 years! I've only been a bride for 45 years! A zillion congratulations! It's not that hard, is it?

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Dana Jae Labrecque's avatar

PedoFelon47 has smeared his cancer all over the WH. When we finally get rid of this horror show and return a sane person to the presidency, we are going to have to build a new residence. The words “White House” now gives me the creeps and there is not enough sage in the world to cleanse the building of these demon creatures in his cabinet.

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arne link's avatar

Can you imagine the damage inflicted on our house by all that Dollar General gold shit? It's going to take millions of dollars to clean that stuff off. Plus, total fumigation of the house. I can't wait until he installs his own wrestling ring in the former rose garden.

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Dana Jae Labrecque's avatar

That’s why we need a new one. Why waste the money on cleaning? It should be demolished with a huge monument atop the land it sits on. Perhaps something like the enormous black structure in 2001 Space Odyssey.

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Leu2500's avatar

Excuse me. The White House survived being burned by the Brits in the War of 1812. It had a massive restoration effort during the Truman Admin. Jackie redecorated it, bring in furniture, etc from prior presidencies. There is now an office that is charged with maintaining the WH collection. No we don’t demolish it. But ServicePro has one hell of a job cleaning it.

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Deborah Hunter's avatar

Really pisses me off what he did to Jackie's rose garden.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

She and Bunny Melon worked hard to make it beautiful, a real love letter to America.

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Chet Brandt's avatar

If I’m not mistaken the removal of the Rose Garden was Melanoma’s idea…

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

Bulldoze it & sow the ground with salt.

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longtimebirdwatcher's avatar

A possibility...

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jack's avatar

Put it up for sale after painting it black. He’d probably buy it and move it and make it his Legacy Library. We need a clean, fresh start. Hopefully with Tamala Harris at the helm.

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george  campbell's avatar

just like the movie " Idiocracy "

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Even the author was shocked it came true in a generation.

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george  campbell's avatar

Yeah , he said " I didn't think I was making a documentary "

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

Don’t know if we’ll be able to have another fair election. Rethuglicans already scheming to add 5 House seats in TX through redistricting

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And chip off all that tacky gold trim, it looks like a Vegas bordello.

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Joe Witkowski's avatar

May the soul of Virginia Guiffre continue to haunt those evil motherfuckers for the rest of their earthly lives and their afterlives in the hottest remote corner of Hell.

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Ingrid Robertshaw's avatar

Did PERVERT # 1 hire a teenage girl for giving masages to rich ,old Florida Geezers, S. Florida Russian Oligarchs, and .aybe PERVERT # 1( DJT) and then PERVERT # 2, offered her more $, ( we know Donny is cheap)....she can no longer speak. But ...there are questions HOW this kid got into MAR A LAGO to begin with..big question..so, I hope it will not go away until the questions are answerd..

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jack's avatar

If she was employed by Trump he probably never paid her. So she moved on.

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Sharon Hudnall's avatar

She aged out of the stable (turned 20 - 21). Giuffre was a prize offering, trafficked to Prince Andrew in London and Palm Beach. Remember, Epstein netted the highest level industrialists, politicians, and royalty in his pedo club. They paid billions to indulge their perversions with impunity.

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Carol C's avatar

I read somewhere that her father worked there as a groundskeeper or something.

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Jack Carter's avatar

Lock him up! America must defend itself against all those corrupt billionaires and a convict rapist degenerate von trump. Out !

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Stephen Schiff's avatar

Could someone please commit a journalism and find out whether there were any age restrictions on being a "spa girl" in Florida in 2000? Curious minds want to know.

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Permian Extinction's avatar

I just love this. Another day, another nail in his coffin.

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J Glaspie's avatar

not soon enough

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Irascible Ink's avatar

Keep talking, President Pedo McBlabbermouth. 😂🍿

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Mary Hall's avatar

Thank you for your contribution to The List.

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