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David (Dave) Jaspers's avatar

Al Franken should still be in the Senate.

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

I met him at Logan airport a year after that bitch senator from NY, can't remember her name but she ruined herself by pressing him to resign. He was very gracious about having his picture taken with me. The person who took our picture was none other than the late Bill Richarson! Bill and I both said to him to run for senator again but Senator Franken who seemed so sad and a little broken, said there was currently no room for him. I asked if he was writing and he said yes. I just love that man to pieces!

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David (Dave) Jaspers's avatar

He really was railroaded out of the Senate. I know there were allegations and evidence of sexual harassment, but republicans wear that as a fucking badge of honor. ain't fucking fair.

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

I agree and the cunt who tattled on him was a republican Fox news junkie. He should have stood his ground because it seemed the sexual assault shit was all done in jest. I felt at the time I met him, his sadness was based on his regret of resigning because when all was said and done, it would have blown over.

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Gail Bauman's avatar

There should have at least been the due process/ ethics hearing that fucking Santos got. I mean, I'm all for the "me too" movement, but the price Franken paid for something that happened years before his Senate stint was far too high.

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steve robertshaw's avatar

He read the writing on the wall back then during the peak of that movement. These things always overshoot their original intentions and get carried to extremes. Eventually the fever breaks, and common sense prevails, but while a movement's cresting the media tries to outdo itself in pushing the narrative. Gillibrand was just another politician who thought she could ride the wave to increase her popularity with the movement's promoters. Sometimes you have to accept that if you advocate for something and it comes to pass, you also have to adhere to its consequences. Otherwise known as unintended consequences.

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RV maxima's avatar

An excellent analysis of the times, the movement and so well said!

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RV maxima's avatar

When going through the evidence there wasn't any. Yeah, that set-up with the GOP wanna be was put together by Stone and others. Remember Stone talking about "someone spending time in the barrel"? There was a writer that later retracted completely her complaint of Fraken putting his arm around her waist and that she didn't even let her husband do that! Her confession was she felt self conscious of gaining weight! People were more touchy Feely back then. If you look at photos from the recent past you will see many with men not their husband's with arms around women's waist.

Anyway, it was a political stunt and I wish he had stayed. The senate let him down.

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RV maxima's avatar

I have 2 wonderful Senators, but I had, 2 wonderful Senators w/Franken's senate seat.

Now, shortly Fter 2 terms we have the political moron of Dean Phillips, his tagline being everyone was welcome and he was a man of the people-such BS!

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Mandy Kilpatrick's avatar

The woman was seen in pics with Roger Stone right after that happened to Franklin - Roger Stone with the big Nixon tattoo on his back, walking down the street with her, she was topless and he was sucking on her nipple and they were laughing. It was from a credible publication. She was partially painted. It all sounds so crazy. ALL of it. Al Frankenstein is so brilliant, I wish he was still a Senator. And I will look at nothing with (the Senator that went after him)name on it. Nothing. The other Democratic Senators who went along with it were wrong too. Self righteous posing, grandstanding, oh how I hate that crap.

And I am definitely a Democrat. She took him out because she saw it as a way to bolster herself.

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Mandy Kilpatrick's avatar

*Franken.....spell check keeps changing it.

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RV maxima's avatar

I totally agree and recall in real time your info.

Autocorrect happens even after you visually read your unposted comment.

One wonders were just 'auto-correct happens and "additional " help from this AI app start and stop.

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Diana Hembree's avatar

Yes indeed. Before publication I found in a story I wrote that "Colorado Livestock Association" had been converted to "Colorado Live Tech Association" (!)

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Robert R's avatar

Never met the man, what I came to know about him impressed me more than most of the people who he served with.I was genuinely surprised that he didn’t push those sleezey ,opportunistic,bloodsucking parasites on their many inequities and lesser intellectual talents,he was obviously quite a bit more intelligent and personable than the majority if not all that conspired against him.His former profession in comedy should have prepared him for the fools, and clowns in the Senate.Wish we still had him working for the common good.

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RV maxima's avatar

OMG, still pissed by that move. Look, I am not besties with Al, but back then when I was employed I thought, why not go all in? So yeah, I met and talked with Al Franken during mostly his 1st campaign.as a donor. His 2nd, not so much. A really wonderful person. I never regret one $ I spent. Other than every other campaign running anywhere asking for $$.

If I ever won a lottery or if I ever actually bought a ticket and won. THAT is where i would go wild in spending it.

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Rick Calegari's avatar

Franken got fucked over. With known traitors like Tuberville still in the Senate and molesters like Pervy McForehead still in Congress, it's obvious how far down the shitter that the GOP Congress has gone and will continue to go.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

You’re missing the point here, guys. It was our own Kristen Gillibrand who called for his ouster! I will never forgive her for that.

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David Skoglund's avatar

Marlene;

Absolutely! And she destroyed her credibility after that. A similar thing happened with Debbie Wasserman- Shultz when she screwed Bernie over as DNC Chair in 2016. Democrats! Holy Shit Batman!

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

YES!! That’s when I stopped having any respect for her. She jumped on that bandwagon way too fast. Wasserman-Schultz really screwed things up for Hillary when she did not embrace Bernie’s ideas. That’s one reason why she lost.

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David Skoglund's avatar

Marlene; Wasserman- Schulz cheated on HRC’s behalf by showing her the debate questions prior to a primary debate. I still don’t trust the DNC because of that.

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Mark L's avatar

Do you think Republicans believe in what's Fair? That went out the window a long time ago

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That's no lady!'s avatar

It makes me sick to think about it.

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Steve B's avatar

Kirsten Gillibrand, and every time I see that WOMAN, all I can think of is how she whined and bitched about Al Franken and "The Picture" and how he should resign immediately. I'm absolutely NOT a misogynist, but that picture was totally on brand for Franken; funny, a little naughty, and never meant in a mean or "locker room talk" kind of way. He was one of the best senators in ANY room.

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Marie Martin's avatar

Wasn’t it later determined that the subject of the uproar was an extreme rightie who was in on the joke of taking the picture? Or was I reading bs?

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Steve B's avatar

I don't know who took the picture, but it was backstage at a show they were doing in, I think Iraq.

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Lamorindalinda's avatar

Kirsten Gillebrand. I will never forgive her.

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

Me neither but she did reck her presidential aspirations. Bitch.

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Lamorindalinda's avatar

Yep. Hate her. I just wish Franken had fought harder.

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David (Dave) Jaspers's avatar

He would make a great foil to turtlehead mcconnell.

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un poco loco's avatar

The problem here is that Franken actually has ethics -- combined with his gift for hitting his marks so effectively, I'm sure he was a priority for the GQP to eliminate.

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RV maxima's avatar

Yep, that stand on top of people's shoulders is not a boost that works.

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JAMES STANFORD's avatar

Nor will I.

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Pat McCann's avatar

Nor should you.

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Andrea's avatar

"That bitch senator." "That WOMAN."

Good grief, you can disagree with her position or even excoriate her without the misogynist garbage.

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RV maxima's avatar

Ditto

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HulitC's avatar

He should be president

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

That would be fun and hopeful at the same time.

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Cheryl Fleming's avatar

That would be wonderful.

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RV maxima's avatar

He was my senator and I worked on his campaign. Mainly writing checks. He studied political s incentives at Havard.

An amazing person.

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RV maxima's avatar

POLITICAL SCIENCE

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Mark L's avatar

Senate? Only the Senate?

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Linda McCaughey's avatar

Oh, yeah.

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Judith's avatar

It was Senator Kirsten Gillibrand - a democrat - who insisted he resign after pictures of Franken surfaced (before he was a Senator and was working as a comedian) of having his hands over the breasts of a sleeping journalist with a smile on his face. This was back before we knew how filthy, stinking, dirty Mitch McConnell was and before the GOP turned into the GQP. We all assumed there were rules about conduct but Gillebrand was way off base and I am so sorry Franken listened to her. She has stated she has no regrets about pressuring him to resign. We lost a good Senator and a good man in the Senate. When we have people like Matt Gaetz unabashedly serving in Congress, she helped to ensure the double standard. Democrats have standards, the GQP has none see :George Santos.

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kdsherpa's avatar

"I am so sorry Franken listened to her." And I am, too. So very sorry...

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David Skoglund's avatar

David; No shit. Thanks for nothing Kristen Gilibrand!

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Steve B's avatar

He should have run for president.

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Rick Khamsi's avatar

He still can, but he would be putting his life in danger from the MAGA crowd.

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Tina Wilson's avatar

Yes!

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Lucia Tallchief Mele's avatar

I KNOW!!!

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Charlie Austin's avatar

Absolutely

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Sharon DeBriere's avatar

Old broad here- many, MANY other boomers hated Kissinger as much as we hated Tricky Dick. You only had to watch them in interviews and see their eye movements to KNOW they were LYING. I have no remorse for either’s passing..they HURT our Republic.

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David Skoglund's avatar

Sharon;

And those two rat bastards enabled the bullshit we are going through right now!

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David Skoglund's avatar

Janet; and slathered with extra mayonnaise and lots of salt.

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David Skoglund's avatar

Janet;

Add some bacon to the burger as well! 😉

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David Skoglund's avatar

He is the Terminator; “I’ll be back!”

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Elaine the Mean Old Feminist's avatar

One thing's for sure, he's not going the same place as Rosalynn Carter. I didn't even realize the sonofabitch was still alive.

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

even hell didn't want him for 100 years.

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Kay-El's avatar

A friend said the same thing.

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SPW's avatar

Yeah. He was even too horrid for the Devil.

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Gail Bauman's avatar

Me either, I'd thought he died years ago. Him and Dump and Trickster can rot in Hell and talk about the good ole days...

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Kay-El's avatar

I was flabbergasted when that asshole won a Nobel peace prize. A Piece of Shit prize would have been more applicable.

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SPW's avatar

Sort of tarnishes the Nobel Peace prize, that’s for sure.

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Caroline's avatar

And then I remember Alfred Nobel is famous for inventing dynamite...

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un poco loco's avatar

Kind of puts the legitimacy of the Nobel Peace Prize in question, doesn't it?

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Morgan's avatar

Fck Kissmyassinger. My Dad was a staunch Republican. He was friends with quite a few politicians and Presidents. My Dad was a USNavy veteran from WWII. BUT he knew HenryFuckingKissMyAssinger and bluntly stated the only thing Henry cares about is Henry. My Dad said in simple terms : HenryFuckingKissMyAssinger is unfortunately a racist and will throw anyone and everyone under the proverbial bus to promote himself to a higher position. He is a danger to humanity and human rights. My Dad said this when I was just little kid. Dad always spoke about politics in front of me because he thought it was important even at an early age. That I have a responsibility to hold those in power accountable by voting.. and to always conduct myself with: Character, Integrity, and Kindness. Character: What you do when no one is watching

Integrity: if you give your word you keep your word: period

Kindness: It costs absolutely nothing but being kind even to a stranger can mean so much to someone who is truly in need of it.

My Dad is gone now and he was from a different era but he was and is to this day a very good human being.

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SPW's avatar

Sounds like an excellent example to follow. You were lucky.

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Morgan's avatar

I was. My Dad was awesome. My Mom not so much. But he explained when I was young that my Mom was the love of his life.. but he didn’t always like her. It kinda gave me permission to love my Mom but I never liked her cause she wasn’t a nice person. He was from a different time and he was always a gentleman and when he was with his buddies he was hysterically funny. I was his little shadow. Super quiet but always with my Daddy and watching and listening. Best teacher EVER

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Sharon C Storm's avatar

Your story sounds a lot like my own. My dad was a joy to be with, but my mother (that’s what I had to call her, never ‘mom’) was not a very nice woman. Even so, it was very difficult when she died.

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Charlie Austin's avatar

That's the US military code of honor. Those are great principles to live by. Kissinger was a ruthless bastard.

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Morgan's avatar

Oh Janet I’m so sorry. The blind loyalty I totally get .. my father’s loyalty to (not birth mother) Mother🙄 And she was not loyal at all. My so called Mom did not have a loyal bone in her body. She would talk shit about everyone including my Dad, who was a straight arrow. Everyone respected my father except my Mom and my siblings. And that speaks volumes. She’s still kicking😒 and her Weasel Dick kids are in their mid /late 60’s and not one of those griftingassmunchfucktards has worked in over 26 years. They all live with Mommy on her property in Hawaii.. My dad died in ‘98. Do I miss my siblings or my notMother? Nope not even a tiny bit.. My Dad.. every single day. And my Hubster is exactly my like my Dad. I swear Dad had a hand in finding my hubby. When I met my hubby I heard my dad’s voice in my head ( yeah yeah.. I’m hearing things LOL) I heard him say “Little One( that’s what he called me) he’s a good one” then my youngest met him and took one look and said Mommy, he’s a good one and he’s the one. My youngest went on our first couple of dates with us lol.. She was right and Thankfully, I listened. I’m a very lucky girl.

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SusieQueue's avatar

I see common threads between us with our deceased too-good-for-this-world fathers & our (not) mothers & her offspring. It doesn't much help either of us, except to know we are not alone enduring similar situations in life. 💞✌

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Susie I’m here when you need to vent. Or just snarky humor. I’m so thankful I’m not alone. I’ve got you and so many others who unfortunately have mothers and siblings who completely suck donkey balls.. getting my adjectives in today!🤭

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SusieQueue's avatar

I love your spot-on adjectives! Sisterhood is the best! 💞✌🌈

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Morgan's avatar

Yes it is 🙌🏽🤙🏽🤪💜

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Morgan's avatar

Thank you Janet. Right?!? You know when they’re sending you a message. My Dad’s favorite song is Stardust by Nat King Cole and damn if that song doesn’t come on randomly and it’s not on my playlist.. and my kids look at me and they say Mom Stardust is playing., what?!? And sure enough it’s playing on my Spotify. I smile a sad smile and know he’s watching after me still. He sent me my husband, I know he did cause I know he did not like my ex.. when he was dying he said.. get rid of the dead weight soon he’s gonna take everything you worked for. Dad was right. He took everything and left me and the kids with absolutely nothing. Fuck the EX. Karma is coming. Hehehehe making popcorn for this one. He just got served..15 + years of back alimony…

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Charlie Austin's avatar

Get him!!!

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Morgan's avatar

Thank you Charlie!! He got served 🙌🏽Booyah

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Morgan's avatar

Amen from your mouth to God’s ear 🙌🏽💜🤙🏽!! Hopefully! And first order of business is to pay my kids college loans off. I had college funds for my kids and the douchey EX emptied their college accounts and stole the money. And yes I’m going after ALL the stolen funds. He just got served court papers after dodging the service for the last 6 months..🤭

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Sharon C Storm's avatar

💔💔💔

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“Forget Pinochet, Milosevic, Hussein, Kim Jong-il, or Gaddafi: America need look no further than its own lauded leaders for a war criminal whose offenses rival those of the most heinous dictators in recent history-Henry Kissinger” Christopher Hitchens, The Trial Of Henry Kissinger

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Mark L's avatar

Hitch had his number a long time ago

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RV maxima's avatar

As did Vidal

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David Skoglund's avatar

Hitch was no dummy!

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Mark L's avatar

Very Intelligent, and very Logical

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Janan Broadbent's avatar

Another one who died too early...

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Steve houlette's avatar

I’ll check it out Janet, thanks

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steve robertshaw's avatar

I appreciate the referral also. Sounds intriguing.

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David Skoglund's avatar

Janet; “Mortality” was very courageous.

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Mark L's avatar

Jeff.

Why does everyone give me a Blank Stare whenever I mention East Timor?

It's like whats an East Timor? Is that a Place? Where is it?

Ask the People of East Timor Today

They are probably giving thanks, or dancing in the streets,after learning of that evil , sick , bastards Death

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Ruth Coleman's avatar

Mar, I knew nothing (that I could at least remember) about East Timor. Your post drove me to Google it and I found this article that folks who think like we all apparently do might want to read. http://etan.org/issues/kissinger.htm

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Mark L's avatar

And how could I forget this, MY children's first babysitter, Tia Maria, escaped to Canada,from Chile. Due to Pinochets Regime, another Kissinger Fiasco and War Crime, So Glad for them and for Canada

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RV maxima's avatar

Or the people I met in Ecuador in 1975 fleeing from Chile? I stayed in a hotel, even writing hotel is funny... a gringo hotel run by an escapes from Chile. A college student who's American husband returned to the state to work on her visa.

My older self wonders if she thought she was abandoned? Not what my more innocent self would have thought then. Now, however her story ended (some 45 years later)it most be with a sigh of relief. We, the USA and much of the world did not know their reality ( your babysitter or my Chilean host) of the many "disappeared " college students by their government. One supported by the Nixon administration.

I think until one smells the tear gas it may not be real. Something very scary in a SA country and backed by a US president like Nixon would do here.

A long time coming...as the song goes.

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Mark L's avatar

As equally horrible as the Argentinian Junta, The dissapeared, The murders, the imprisonment. Torture!

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Diana Hembree's avatar

Yes, so horrible. One of my professors had had to flee Argentina. The junta has a list of words that could get professors and journalists arrested. One of them was "unconscious."

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RV maxima's avatar

Yep, spent 4 months there. I still think a requirement of foreign travel and/ community service should be an educational requirement. A d not like Romney with his "Mormon service" I Paris no less! Although that would be at least a start in opening up hearts & minds of the average American's ignorance.

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David Skoglund's avatar

Mark;

I remember reading about Pinochet’s goons taking people that were bound up, weighted down and thrown out of aircraft over the ocean. Disappeared

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Rick Khamsi's avatar

Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! covered the outrages in East Timor in detail in many of her broadcasts. I believe they are available on YouTube now.

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Ryn's avatar

Great summary. I love that you touched on how the media is covering this. One really can’t “both sides” this monster

Also, ahhh, I miss Bourdain

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George A. Polisner's avatar

He was a war criminal with plenty of blood on his hands. He deserved to die in prison. Good riddance is spot on Jeff.

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Abbi's avatar

I especially love the Gore Vidal quote. And I don’t remember seeing Kissinger’s comment about breaking Dems. He, W & Cheney, tffg, & Netanyahu — mass murderers one and all.

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

tfg is also a mass murderer, Covid? Syria?

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Abbi's avatar

He’s in the list: tffg. Biden is nicer than I am, so the f-bomb is mine.

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Rick Calegari's avatar

Absolutely and he'll even kill more people if he's reelected.

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Maggie's avatar

I wish you had been writing this column when Nixon died. I hated watching the solemn and respectful commentary on that man. The two of them can rot in hell.

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Charlie Austin's avatar

They are as we speak.

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David L McBurnett's avatar

I personally called him a war criminal to his face at the Peking Duck House in Manhattan. His breaking the peace deal Johnson had in place before the election added over 25,000 American soldiers dead in the war, Additionally, double that amount of war Vets who committed suicide when they came home and those who exposed to agent orange. Also the death troll and lasting poison the Vietnamese and Cambodians have paid because of this evil man.

His actions in South and Central Americas are a major contributor to the turmoil and dysfunction there.

Truly a loathsome american...

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Charlie Austin's avatar

He and Nixon committed treason to win the 1968 election.

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steve robertshaw's avatar

Was he involved in tanking the peace talks in Paris back then? I know their failure led to Nixon's election, since an agreement to end the Vietnam war just before the election would have carried the Democrats to keep the White House. I know the scheme was promoted by Nixon (Tricky Dick!).

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David L McBurnett's avatar

Yes he was....

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Abbi's avatar

And to think, those of us who protested the war drove LBJ to not run again in ‘68. He was mean and cagey enough to beat Nixon, but none of the other potential candidates were and the party infuriated us all by picking Humphrey. In hindsight…oh WTF, that doesn’t help, does it.

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Married to a Vietnam vet 47 yrs now. Still fighting the VA for benefits for Agent Orange exposure and PTSD! It’s been a nightmare.

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David L McBurnett's avatar

Sadly you are far from alone......

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CroneEver's avatar

I feel sure that Kissinger is either getting a very warm welcome in hell, or is currently being reincarnated as a Cambodian child who will have to live with multiple mutilations from the secret bombing.

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Ransom Rideout's avatar

Only the good die young. Just hearing about that monster sends me into a RAGE! I have to go out and take a long walk.

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Susan Burgess's avatar

Janet, I think at death the ego dissolves and we are all returned to original purity. That’s just my deduction.

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Linda McCaughey's avatar

Oh, a billion skillion "Amens!" to this most heartfelt column!! I never understood why anyone thought he was a wonderful guy. DJT would have invited him to live at his shitty Florida golf motel and be his bestie.

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Renie's avatar

The next few days of DC-elites and the media praising Kissinger will be sickening. He was 100% a madman. He is a war criminal responsible for the deaths of millions of people esp in Southeast Asia. I hope he rots in hell.

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Abbi's avatar

Rolling Stone’s article has a headline that tells it like it is. Jeff level bashing, without the swearing of course.

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Darrell Smith's avatar

All of my 72 years have been filled with Americans trying to improve their lives. All of my 72 years have been filled with Republicans trying to exert control over that for their own personal gain. The election of Nixon in 1968 signalled an all-out effort on the part of the Republicans to regain control of America and to end the Civil Rights and Antiwar movements. Nixon, Agnew, Kissinger, all were criminals to whom human lives were no obstacle. Reagan hated the hippies so he gave the future of America away. Bush senior was a CIA spook who went after the Taliban and kept it secret from the American people. Bush junior was so stupid that the Taliban took that opportunity to strike back. Then we come to the last guy Chump. With him the Republicans have sunk to their lowest and most criminal point yet. They can't go any lower or get more criminal unless Chump is installed as dictator.

Today there is to be a vote on removing Santos from Congress. I pray that it will not be hijacked by Republicans and that most of them in Congress get kicked down the road after him

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Steve B's avatar

"...criminals to whom human lives were no obstacle."

Describes Republicans perfectly. Excellent post!

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Susan Niemann's avatar

Excellent comment. 👏👏👏👏

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RV maxima's avatar

Amen!

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