I think the country should go on a polls diet and not have any for at least another what, nine months just as a suggestion? Polls create anxiety. Polls are a national health issue. The last two sets of polls in major elections were so far off, it's kind of interesting they're still at it exactly the same way. The questions suck. And Trump was one of the financial contributors to one of the last polls, that one that said he was ahead of Biden. Poll diet for me.
thanks, the only poll that counts is the election. almost 250 years of them with every one being accepted as legitimate until the orange monkey man threw his hissy fits of questioning the veracity of our system before the vote was even begun in 2016. we owe that schmuck for all of our election anxiety. lock him up in solitary with no outside communication. take away his toys and let the world see him for the jibbering idiot he is.
Polls? I question just 'how' these polls are taken. I, for one, have never been 'polled'. My cell filters unknown callers. I have no land-line. Emails I receive, (I donate to Democratic candidates/causes), all seem to be fundraising tools even though they start with a burning question, "Will you be voting for Joe Biden?". What's your info on these polls?
“ there is no excuse to recycle highly suspect information from sources known to be flawed”
Take this quote by Jen Rubin to the bank.
After the Great Polling Debacle of 2016 that might well have cost Clinton the Presidency, or at least contributed to her loss, I ignore polls. Garbage in garbage out.
There are lies, damn lies, statistics, and then there are polls.
Also, the brain is made to respond to NEGATIVE news, so MSM is geared to exploit that. Not too many people want to hear about me helping a child cross the street. RW is a master of lies and negative comments.
I stopped giving polls any gravitas whatsoever as far back as 2008. They’re a cheap alternative to actual due diligence by the news media. Remember, fake polls to increase revenue happens a lot faster than an actual investigation by journalists that could take years.
Plus the results are always manipulated by the questions and who’s being polled. I laughed and laughed at the 2022 “red wave”.
1. The candidates tell us what they support, where they stand on issues, what they would prioritize in office, why they are just the person to do the job. This can be published online, and even on tv. There are no campaigns, no donations.
2. We very soon after, like a week after, go to vote.
3. Count the votes.
4. THEN we find out who won.
WHY are we so obsessed with figuring out ahead of time who's gonna win? And don't get me started on campaign finance reform--which we desperately need!!
During the 2016 race, I used to read Fivethirtyeight compulsively. I will never ever ever forget Nick Silver saying, just before the elections, something like "there are 17 ways the vote could go, and Hillary wins in 16 of them." Granted, he did allow for for that 1/17 or whatever, but I did NOT feel adequately prepared. I am so bitter about that! lol But seriously, I have not looked at Fivethirtyeight, or any other polling source, since then.
Thank you as always Jeff for saying the quiet part out loud.
And yes, the only thing worse than polling "with their finger on the pulse of the 'Murican' voter, reported every five minutes from now until November, 2024, is the steady stream of "polls are close, send money now" or "Trump said WHAT?" send money now emails.
While it is still important to provide campaign resources (to Democratic candidates, not those paying off their criminal defense lawyers), wouldn't it be amazing if we could get out of short-term thinking mode and begin to understand why any of these races are even close?
If GOP "trickle down" fraudnomics only benefits about 5-10% of the voting population, aside from voter suppression and heavily gerrymandered districts, why is any election closer than 90% - 10%.
While we are stuck going election cycle to election cycle squeaking out a victory (thankfully -the Senate races in Georgia) -why is democratic messaging so bad that McCarthy is temporarily House Speaker, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Loudmouth "I see nothing" Jordan are in the House (not to mention corrupt incompetent Governors like Noem).
Polls are a stupid distraction. I might as well report my pulse and systolic blood pressure (all noticeably are up when following current events) every five minutes and call it news.
fuck the polls, full speed ahead
Let’s work for a SLAM DUNK!!
I think the country should go on a polls diet and not have any for at least another what, nine months just as a suggestion? Polls create anxiety. Polls are a national health issue. The last two sets of polls in major elections were so far off, it's kind of interesting they're still at it exactly the same way. The questions suck. And Trump was one of the financial contributors to one of the last polls, that one that said he was ahead of Biden. Poll diet for me.
thanks, the only poll that counts is the election. almost 250 years of them with every one being accepted as legitimate until the orange monkey man threw his hissy fits of questioning the veracity of our system before the vote was even begun in 2016. we owe that schmuck for all of our election anxiety. lock him up in solitary with no outside communication. take away his toys and let the world see him for the jibbering idiot he is.
This app apparently doesn't take images, but google the famous picture of Truman holding up the Chicago Tribune headline, "Dewey Defeats Truman."
Polls? I question just 'how' these polls are taken. I, for one, have never been 'polled'. My cell filters unknown callers. I have no land-line. Emails I receive, (I donate to Democratic candidates/causes), all seem to be fundraising tools even though they start with a burning question, "Will you be voting for Joe Biden?". What's your info on these polls?
Panic no.
Work hard yes.
“ there is no excuse to recycle highly suspect information from sources known to be flawed”
Take this quote by Jen Rubin to the bank.
After the Great Polling Debacle of 2016 that might well have cost Clinton the Presidency, or at least contributed to her loss, I ignore polls. Garbage in garbage out.
There are lies, damn lies, statistics, and then there are polls.
With apologies to Samuel Clemens
My runes say otherwise, Biden landslide!
Also, the brain is made to respond to NEGATIVE news, so MSM is geared to exploit that. Not too many people want to hear about me helping a child cross the street. RW is a master of lies and negative comments.
Who actually answers polls any longer? My 30-something son doesn't answer his phone, even for his parents. No one clicks on links, fearing malware.
I stopped giving polls any gravitas whatsoever as far back as 2008. They’re a cheap alternative to actual due diligence by the news media. Remember, fake polls to increase revenue happens a lot faster than an actual investigation by journalists that could take years.
Plus the results are always manipulated by the questions and who’s being polled. I laughed and laughed at the 2022 “red wave”.
Truth. I tune 'em out. It's basically like that Baby Ruth floating in the pool in Caddyshack.
Why can't we do it like this:
1. The candidates tell us what they support, where they stand on issues, what they would prioritize in office, why they are just the person to do the job. This can be published online, and even on tv. There are no campaigns, no donations.
2. We very soon after, like a week after, go to vote.
3. Count the votes.
4. THEN we find out who won.
WHY are we so obsessed with figuring out ahead of time who's gonna win? And don't get me started on campaign finance reform--which we desperately need!!
During the 2016 race, I used to read Fivethirtyeight compulsively. I will never ever ever forget Nick Silver saying, just before the elections, something like "there are 17 ways the vote could go, and Hillary wins in 16 of them." Granted, he did allow for for that 1/17 or whatever, but I did NOT feel adequately prepared. I am so bitter about that! lol But seriously, I have not looked at Fivethirtyeight, or any other polling source, since then.
let me just add, fuck Reagan.
THE ONLY POLL THAT COUNTS IS THE ONE IN ***NOVEMBER 2024*** AT THE BALLOT BOX!!!!!
AND WE BETTER 👏FUCKING 👏SHOW👏UP👏!!!
Thank you as always Jeff for saying the quiet part out loud.
And yes, the only thing worse than polling "with their finger on the pulse of the 'Murican' voter, reported every five minutes from now until November, 2024, is the steady stream of "polls are close, send money now" or "Trump said WHAT?" send money now emails.
While it is still important to provide campaign resources (to Democratic candidates, not those paying off their criminal defense lawyers), wouldn't it be amazing if we could get out of short-term thinking mode and begin to understand why any of these races are even close?
If GOP "trickle down" fraudnomics only benefits about 5-10% of the voting population, aside from voter suppression and heavily gerrymandered districts, why is any election closer than 90% - 10%.
While we are stuck going election cycle to election cycle squeaking out a victory (thankfully -the Senate races in Georgia) -why is democratic messaging so bad that McCarthy is temporarily House Speaker, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Loudmouth "I see nothing" Jordan are in the House (not to mention corrupt incompetent Governors like Noem).
Polls are a stupid distraction. I might as well report my pulse and systolic blood pressure (all noticeably are up when following current events) every five minutes and call it news.