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Neal Stiffelman's avatar

The sundown town tour observation made by that alert journalist stopped my brain for a moment. I thought back to when, as a young teen, I read Black Like Me, by John Howard Griffin, and understood the terror ordinary people had to experience every damn day.

I fucking hate that this is a battle we need to keep fighting.

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SeekingReason's avatar

I agree Neal. It will not be acceptable for Harris to move on despite the constant law-breaking and terrorizing these people do. It is exceptionally important to turn the House & Senate a deep shade of BLUE. We have big expectations and I will not stop demanding accountability for the domestic terrorist cult. When we have that safe majority, equality and equity cannot be pushed aside.

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P123Sunny's avatar

DEMs will def need the Trifecta (WH, Senate, House). I’m no hero but will be phone banking for Jon Tester this afternoon, trying not to sound like a city-slicker!? (heard that Montana folk are a little annoyed that their race is getting National-ized due to its strategic importance :/)

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Carrie Duncan's avatar

Maybe they could take themselves out of the limelight by supporting more equitable representation based on number of representees? E.g., 1 senator per million. Would give Montana 1. Would give California 39.

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Let me sum up's avatar

That'd give the white grievance babies from the Dakotas on down a massive coronary. I'm here for it.

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Carrie Duncan's avatar

All the more reason to propose it! JK, but not: this is my primary grievance. This and the church/state boundaries having been unconstitutioned (e.g., Dobbs). Half the population's bodily autonomy stripped for one religion's view of when life starts. A microscopic clump of cells literally has more value than women's lives. Our maternal (and infant) mortality rates are a shame I'd never have thought this country was capable of inviting and bearing. One that would never have been advanced without inequitable representation.

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Cat Cafe's avatar

It's even worse than that. You can't force someone to donate a kidney to save an adult, sentient human life; you can't even take organs from a corpse without prior approval from the person. But they want to force a woman to donate her entire body to a 9-month pregnancy, with all the attendant risks, childbirth, with even more risks, and then be solely responsible for another human being for 18 years, with no help, no aid, no support--in the service of saving a nonsentient clump of cells the size of your thumbnail. THEY WANT WOMEN TO HAVE FEWER RIGHTS THAN A CORPSE.

They want us to be inanimate objects that they can use and abuse as they wish, like soil to fertilize or leave fallow or do whatever they want with. Women who stand up to it, step "out of line,"--they want freedom to harm and even kill us. It's never been about babies or life. Everything they do, every law they pass, every action they take, makes it crystal clear it's ONLY about brutal, primitive, 9th century "burn the witch" misogyny.

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Let me sum up's avatar

And both rates - quelle surprise! have exploded post Dobbs. It takes a special level of ghoul to force women to carry a baby to term that has no chance of survival. I can't begin to fathom how you'd pull yourself back together after that - especially with our fab mental health systems.

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Carrie Duncan's avatar

Even a parody proposal would keep highlighting that there is a scandalous imbalance in how skewed our representation is. DC and PR status is a particularly bald steal -- they pay taxes, no? And I joke here, one per million would be an unruly Senate, but the numbers of Senators and Reps are highly skewed, even before we address the abomination that is the electoral college.

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Cat Cafe's avatar

Or at least find SOME measure to equalize the unfairness of Wyoming having something like 70 times the representation of California

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Let me sum up's avatar

I think the only realistic way to accomplish it is to pass meaningful voting rights legislation & blow up the Supreme Court. And either is a heavy lift (though it shouldn't be if Ds would actually engage in politics). If Ds eke out a trifecta and don't drag this country into the future I fear we may not even have a future.

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Robert R's avatar

Hey Joe’s got a get outa jail card from the S Court ,he’s 82 years old a lame duck Prez and one pissed off ☘️ American 🇺🇸 …..he might not be afraid to give the I’m a king and untouchable ruling a little bit of a spin around the block !🙏🏻🤔🤫 Never know who an older gentleman who’s not quite right might inadvertently crush….😻 I-mean run into …?! I mean ….ah! Fuck it you knowww ! 🤣🙏🏻

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Carrie Duncan's avatar

It's insupportable.

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Robert R's avatar

Lawrence O’Donnell just jogged my memory of how 5 of the 6 republican justices …...all but Traitor Thomas were appointed by Presidents who did not win the Popular vote …..now our way of life is threatened by an illegitimate Supreme Kourt…..kurtesy of the Electoral Kolledge ! Hey all them K words …..seem to describe that Korrupt Kourts KinKy outlook on how to interpret that pesky Konstitution !🤪😵‍💫

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bruce somers's avatar

That's a fact,jack.

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P123Sunny's avatar

‘Voluntarily’ ;)

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SeekingReason's avatar

P123, Every little action helps. I have been sending donations to Blue candidates in red states. I especially took up the cause for Missouri because of a Sub stack writer named Jess Piper. These people really need help. It’s not some spectacular amount..$50 here and there but even $10 to these people can add up if they get a lot of people donating. They need all the encouragement they can get!

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Jess is wonderful!

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P123Sunny's avatar

💯‼️

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RV maxima's avatar

Ditto

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JOEL's avatar

Why are my prayers not fucking being answered?!!!!!!

I continue to pray for lying fraudulent scumbag piece of shit Trump to suffer either a MASSIVE heart attack or MASSIVE debilitation stroke…..and I’m going to continue to pray until one of those death events happens!

Join me in prayer!

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SeekingReason's avatar

Joel, 😂 How about a Super Max Prison term instead. After the giant loss he’ll probably self destruct. I want to see him humiliated and his terrorist cult crushed

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

My prayers every night before bed

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Robert R's avatar

I’m so pissed no more prayers for me! I’m going to the logical entity for vengeance and doing a deal made in Hell ahhh haaa ha ! Look 👀 out you Orange 🍊 💩 shithead you getting No Sympathy from the DEVIL 😈 mo fo !

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linda's avatar

Isn’t that just too bad for them.

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RV maxima's avatar

I was wondering how that is going? I have family history in Montana-I wonder if that family ranch-cred would help me change minds or win support? I guess I should get busy and find out!

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Janine's avatar

And the scotus MUST be dealt with swiftly

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Bonnie's avatar

SUPERMAJORITIES!!!!! VOTE,.PEOPLE!!!!

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Alee Robbins's avatar

I am originally from Orange County, Ca., raised in a staunch Republcan family.

As a young adult I read Griffin's book and was shocked to my core. I think that's when I became a liberal.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

I tried to describe that book to a white person, and they dismissed it saying, “That was 30 years ago."

Check out this cartoon: https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/44649c70-faed-4fb8-801e-e7c0cc342061_3000x2595.jpeg

Reminds me of the Bible, “They have eyes, but they cannot see, they have ears, but they cannot hear."

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bluesyfish's avatar

I truly love Micahel de Adder cartoons and he has a Substack newsletter so you can follow him here: https://substack.com/@deadder

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes, that sounds like the elderly trump lady on facebook, who said there couldn't be racism, because she had never seen it. I then asked if there were any persons of color in her town, "no", she said. I then asked if she had ever left said town. "No", she said...

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Kate's avatar

Uh, 30 years ago!? It’s from 1961. And I’m not sure what I think about that book. It’s old and most likely comes nowhere near the truth of what actual black people have actually been through since 1865. What I do know is that we cannot allow the country to go back to pre Civ War times. Which is what these white Christian republican motherfuckers want!

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un poco loco's avatar

I don't think Black Like Me was necessarily the whole picture. But for someone who grew up with no black children in my school until I was 11, and with none in my neighborhood, it told me that a) they WERE people just as I was, even if they looked different, and b) they were not being viewed or treated fairly, by the same standard that white people were. For me, it was life-altering.

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David A Pitock's avatar

Scary apt unfortunately.

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

True.

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Becky Gibson's avatar

I read it when I was a young adult too. That book should be required reading in high school for about eleventy-billion reasons, but of course it won’t be - too threatening to the MAGAts and Moms for Liberty, those types who could really learn something from it.

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Patty Mooney's avatar

Ugh, Moms for Liberty - the preening ghost of Phyllis Schlafley lives on and on and on.

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Let me sum up's avatar

Until just now, I'd forgotten all about her. Dammit.

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Carrie Duncan's avatar

The founder who had threesomes with her (FL GOP Chairman) husband and a woman who later accused the husband of rape? That one?

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes, Brigit and "Christian" that is his actual name. (the rapist dude).

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KP Johnson Austin, TX's avatar

Red states will never allow that book to be read. Snowflake conservative children can't handle it. It's being pulled from school library shelves as we speak.

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Becky Gibson's avatar

That is beyond disgusting. I guess to them, Knowledge is a dangerous thing. Better keep the population dumbed down so they don’t ask pertinent questions …. I clearly remember Trump saying how much he loves the poorly educated - which of course he is Exhibit #1 for!!!

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Let me sum up's avatar

Like so many things, a hyper focused dumbing down of this already deeply stupid country really took off under Reagan w eviserating & villifying public education.

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KP Johnson Austin, TX's avatar

Absolutely. Moving to shut down public education so the rural kids and those who aren't wealthy will become the working caste. They will not need any education--they won't get to advance their station in life.

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Robert R's avatar

Ironic ay ?

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

I also read Baldwin and Richard Wright in HS. Should be required also. I found Griffin, Baldwin and Wright in my HS library. Among others. Did independent study. Today I don't think that would be allowed.

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un poco loco's avatar

My high school had Wright and Baldwin, too -- and Solzhenitsyn and Vonnegut and Joseph Heller and much, much more. I read Catch-22 over and over -- it explained my world, in a way. For me, reading wasn't independent study (although it did keep me more engaged in school) -- it was using books to create a world I could live in.

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

I read everything Vonnegut published. Catch-22 was one of the funniest books I ever read. Can still quote from it after more than 50 years.

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

I did a lot of independent study because I could go read. Otherwise didn't have much use for HS.

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AlbanianQueen's avatar

Becky, I read that book as well when I was in high school, and I agree it should be required reading. Btw, nice to see another Steph-head on here!

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Karla's avatar

It’s a miracle that it hasn’t been banned..or maybe it has and I just don’t know.

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Neal Stiffelman's avatar

My family was breaking into the upper middle class, I guess, when I read it. But I had never met a Republican, or at least anyone who admitted it. For that matter, raised as a Reform Jew, I was unaware that Jews were even permitted to vote Republican. Met my first Republicans when I switched schools in HS, ninth grade, and it was the Goldwater campaign against LBJ. Some classmates were distributing John Birch Society pamphlets and propaganda, “A Choice Not an Echo” and other Schlafly screeds, vicious racist flyers… I was shocked. They all knew how dirty this was, how demeaning it was, what a pack of vile lies, but they didn’t care because they wanted to win. They didn’t care who they injured. This level of selfishness still makes me boil.

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Becky Gibson's avatar

My family is still like that, all staunch Republicans, and my mother made a special effort before she passed to let me know no one could figure out how I turned out “this way”. I guess that makes me the official black sheep of the family. Ask me if I care. My dad is so bigoted and misogynistic that it makes me ashamed. I try to visit as little as possible. It is what it is.

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Neal Stiffelman's avatar

Sorry. Has to be rough. Hang in there.

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un poco loco's avatar

The 1964 election is when I think my dad openly broke from his all-Republican family. He voted for Kennedy, but don't think he ever told his dad. I remember some of the 1964 campaign, but was still in grade school and don't think I was exposed to just how ugly it was. I do remember how unhappy my grandfather was about my dad's defection, though. Knowing what I know now, Grandad would have been fine with even the ugliest of it.

Dad made sure we knew how crazy the right wing was at the time, but by making fun of how stupid it all was. Bircher billboards were everwhere, so he told us the joke about how you could tell just how rabid they were by whether they wanted to hang Earl Warren or just impeach him.

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Diana Hembree's avatar

It was a fantastic book. And it is so tragic that he died of poisoning from the chemicals he used to make his skin look black.

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Alee Robbins's avatar

I had forgotten about that. Sad indeed. His legacy will live on, knowing he opened up many eyes and hearts.

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Judy Luchsinger's avatar

See why fascists ban books?

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

I remember that feeling from reading the book.

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Dave Drell's avatar

The whites think they have been

marginalized because the advances of the blacks latinos,& Asians….never thinking that the Whites are still the privileged class. Its ridiculous when these numbskulls talk of how great

Ahmerica is.

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Let me sum up's avatar

As the saying goes, more rights for others doesn't equal fewer rights for you. It's not pie.

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Dee Whitman's avatar

But belonging to a privileged class isn't the same as having privilege: We know that an enormous number of Americans have been screwed financially over the past 43 years. They're struggling. They're anxious / hopeless / depressed / angry -- with good reason.

To be clear, I'm not condoning their anger at The Other, when in fact they should be angry at the CEO class, the GOP (with its union busting, allergy to regulations, and regressive tax code), and all of its wealthy donors. Unfortunately, people in despair are easy to manipulate, and the GOP has long taken advantage of that.

Despite my privilege (white, middle-class, educated), I've been destroyed -- financially, and my health -- by GOP economic policies; for various reasons, I see who's responsible and I don't hate / fear / blame Others. But I understand what it is to feel despondent most of the time, so I'm asking everyone to have some compassion -- not least bc compassion is the foundation for devising policies that make life better for those in pain, and a better life usually translates into far less fear / hatred / blame. Thanks.

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

Good point. I was, I thought, safely able to afford retirement. Then a chronic medical issue started to chip away. Medicare doesn't cover expensive procedures and medication I need.

Oh well.

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David A Pitock's avatar

Its miss placed rage.

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Cat Cafe's avatar

When you've always taken for granted that you have 100% of the power, someone suddenly having 1% of it feels like oppression, if you're an asshole.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And assholes, like oxygen, are ubiquitous.

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Robert R's avatar

Indeed they are !

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

We have an extremely high asshole quotient here.

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Richard's avatar

I'm not privileged at all, and don't need to be. Life kicks ass here in our little slice of Heaven, southeast Idaho. We still smile and wave at our neighbors, keep an eye on the kids and put our own worms on hooks. I was never made to be race "conscious ", it never mattered or occurred to me. Every man and woman on this Earth is equal, period. Makes things much easier when you look at it like that.

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Rick Calegari's avatar

Same here. Jeff's post that includes sundown towns was a real eye opener and another valuable piece of info that needs to be put out there. As the felonious flag humper continues his make America hate again tour, he keeps throwing more of his usual shit at the press but yet, they continue to enable him and kiss his ass. They continue to fail us daily with no redeeming qualities in site.

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Joanne Filipo's avatar

Make America Hate again? I have not heard that one yet..perfect! I hate these fuckers…

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bruce somers's avatar

It's sometimes Make America White Again too.

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arne link's avatar

I know how you feel. Why do they grovel? It's because of the people who own them and they need their job to pay the bills.

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

And now, one of his MAGA devotees just tried to attack the press after Demento Donny started his “ enemies of the people” bs again. The man was arrested & now faces misdemeanor charges. Think Donny will help out with his legal bills??

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

He had on sunglasses, and looked like he was disguised, so maybe a paid actor, knowing the trump bunch.

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arne link's avatar

The bosses require it.

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Joanne Filipo's avatar

Exactly. The 🍊💩 makes them money. That is the one and only reason. Corporate greed= Corporate media.

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Robert R's avatar

💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲

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Chris Hierholzer's avatar

When my family traveled in Virginia it was common to see Whites Only signs at restaurants and gas station water fountains and bathrooms. I'm from VA and nothing has changed. The anger at these same places has taken the place of these signs. I moved to Florida after I got back from Vietnam in 70 and it's just as fucked up here.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

That's because we have so many home-grown racists, joined by DeathSantis putting out the MAGAT bat-signal to the rest of them to retire here.

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Robert R's avatar

One consolation…Not much longer before Sunny Fla is going under the Atlantic waves …it’s flooding faster each day …they gonna be in Aquaman’s realm soon …the heavier it gets the better ."the more overfed obese Lard ass morons just hasten the day ! I hope the Keys can float haven’t seen them yet 🤪 GLUB ! GLUB ! 🌨️💨💧💦🫧☔️🌊🌊 going down Lardo’s next floor eternal hell …your floor scumbags 🤪🤣😂☔️guess that climate change talk had some truth to it ..think we should have read a bit more about it?How much are Sea fro…..Floor properties going for these days ?

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

It’s not a consolation to me, I live there. Although the projected map of how much of FL will be underwater stops well before my location.

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Chris Hierholzer's avatar

So true

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

Chris, thank you for serving in the one of the worst US made-wars imaginable. Wife of a Vietnam Vet here who just got a 90% rating after 50+ years! Thank you, Joe for the PACT Act.

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Chris Hierholzer's avatar

Thanks. Am glad your husband is finally getting some assistance. We are the lucky ones. Best to you both.

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bruce somers's avatar

Saw a 'sundown' sign in northern Alabama in 1980.

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Robert R's avatar

I saw a Sundowner tattoo on Trumps forehead in an Alzheimer’s for Magats cartoon !

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Rick A.'s avatar

I am 71 years old, white guy from Texas. I cannot, no matter how hard I try, fully understand what black people went through, and often still do. I will say Black Like Me was the most impactful book I ever read. I read it in the late 60’s when I was high school. I will never forget it, never……What Griffin did was epic and important, to speak to the hearts of all of us on the other side of Jim Crow.

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Babette's avatar

Agree. Sad to say that I live in a former sundown town in WI. I really hope he does not come here.

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Janan Broadbent's avatar

Neal— about 1/3 of my therapy cases are black women. I cannot help but be amazed that living in this racist country, they do not hate it, but manage to live their lives. Huge cost to their self image tho.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Neal, that wasn't a journalist. It was a not-so-average Joe.

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Linda McCaughey's avatar

I really thought it would all be gone sometime during my lifetime. After all, somewhere in the range of 80-100 years should be enough, right? I will be 79 this year. We really need to hurry this along....

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

80 years is enough time to forget the lessons of WWll, but somehow never to remember.

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Patty Mooney's avatar

The "Black Like Me" book I found on my mom's book shelf, then read, and the movie "Rosewood" both left indelible impressions on me.

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bruce somers's avatar

I saw one these signs in 1980 in northern Alabama,my Army buddies and I were in a van traveling to Chattanooga,TN,we burned it to the ground.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

❤️

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Bikracer's avatar

I read that book too and so did my mom. It should be required reading! Horrifying!

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Susan P Thatcher's avatar

Civil War rematch.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Heather Cox Richardson summed it up in her book "how the South won the Civil War."

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un poco loco's avatar

Me too. I didn't even have a black classmate until I was in 7th grade, which was about the time I read Black Like Me. It completely transformed how I thought and looked at the school and the university town where I lived.

Didn't prevent me from doing stupid shit -- my grandfather sent me a t-shirt from Atlanta with a picture of a guy with an ax (can't remember the saying, but of course it was Lester Maddox chasing black people out of his restaurant; now I know that it's perfectly in character that my ordained-minister grandfather would have thought that was funny.) Fortunately a black friend was one of the first to see me -- she stopped me and said, "WHAT ARE YOU WEARING?" -- and explained when she realized I had no clue. A true friend... :)

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Marie Martin's avatar

Book was a life changer for me.

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P123Sunny's avatar

The lies have become more brazen yet none of it penetrates the media news bubble while keyboards were worn out over Biden's orthopedic shoes and the height of the staircase he uses to board AF1. Mt. Rushmore level of journalistic malpractice on par w/Hillary's emails 🤡- @scarylawyerguy

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

Hey, did anyone notice there's 1 flag 🏴in the crazy lady from Georgia story and there are two flags in Donnie Dipschit's version? 🎌🎌

MORE MAGA MATH? 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

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JOSEPH PEDALINO, JR.'s avatar

Expect it to worsen.

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bruce somers's avatar

It's hard to imagine the MAGAs getting anymore obnoxious,but they probably will.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

They seem to take it as a challenge.

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Mark Slattery's avatar

I really hate that for all the references to the anniversary of the pullout from Afghanistan, there is scant mention of trump releasing 5,000 taliban fighters. That should be tv ad material.

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Catherine's avatar

Or how about when he wanted to invite the fucking Taliban to camp David?!?!

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bruce somers's avatar

On the anniversary of 9/11 I think it was.

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Catherine's avatar

Ahhh yes, I knew it was something like that, like the most reprehensible, evil time one could think up!!!

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Dave Drell's avatar

He’s so stoooopid - like Taliban coming here would ever pass security clearance.

And really, Taliban know anyone coming on our soil would not be allowed to leave-

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bruce somers's avatar

Most Western religions have one thing in common,domination and control of women.

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PAUL's avatar

One of those 5,000 was the bomber at the airport.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes, he is so fucking brazen!

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bruce somers's avatar

Yep.

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Lisa T. Sandoval's avatar

Wow!

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Michael J McGee's avatar

There's also nothing being said about how President Biden had to pull out from Afghanistan the way they did because of the order signed by Diaper Don before he left the white house. Joe was under federal law, or whatever, to pull out the troops out the way he did.

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bruce somers's avatar

Pompeo had the same stupid grin on his face standing with the Taliban.

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P123Sunny's avatar

A podcaster I listen to thinks that Joe’s evacuation (of 100k!?) was the f’n highlight of his presidency…🇺🇸✨

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

And that the treaty that Biden was trying to honor was written under the tRump term

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

That was the first thing that came to mind, his actions killed those people.

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Marie Martin's avatar

Geez. Was it 5000? From Gitmo? Was there ANY legitimacy attached? Like maybe they were held too long without charges? Or SOMETHING ???

No, wait. Who are we talking about? Mr. Lying. Scum.

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Let me sum up's avatar

How dare you suggest adding context.

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bruce somers's avatar

And Bagram Airport was closed so people couldn't get out.

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Diane Schubach's avatar

The press, the "legitimate" press should stop attending the hate rallies.

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Betsy's avatar

Exactly. This gives a valid reason for the press to decline attending his rallies. If they all stopped attending he’d lose his mind. Oh,….wait……

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Joanne Filipo's avatar

I’ve been saying that since 2016…who has gotten more free press than any one….ever? The orange shit bag! If they just stop accepting every invitation to make tons of money off of…..oh wait, now I get it! Corporate media doesn’t want to stop making tons of money off of the orange shit bag…🤦‍♀️duh! And I’m still royally pissed that the whole ear boo boo bullshit got swept under the fucking rug…..

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Ole Anderson's avatar

I’m sure it was blood splatter from the man who was actually shot and killed.

Fat Boy was never struck by any bullet or fragment. The ear mini pad was a bogus attempt to get the rubes to believe he was some kind of a hero.

A Fraudster and Con man all the way!

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Joanne Filipo's avatar

And of course there were those really cool folks who adorned the ear pillows as well as the diapers! 🤦‍♀️ Who are these people? 😳

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Rick Calegari's avatar

If only we could be that lucky. Lack of cameras and coverage would finally cause that corroded gasket to blow.

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Charles Austin's avatar

😂😂

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Serious question: how could we tell?

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Brad Yazell's avatar

Good luck finding the "legitimate press".

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P123Sunny's avatar

Give the DNC CREDIT for inviting Content Creators / Influencers to the Convention!!! These ppl post facts and data re: DEMOCRACY - ! MSM was furious (people are saying:). Their posts (independent media) alone have gained 400M impressions (!!!)

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bruce somers's avatar

They've been offering Trump free campaigning for 9 years now.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Millions of dollars of free campaign coverage.

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Jewbergs's avatar

Yes! Free campaign ads via networks.

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Richard Von Busack's avatar

For my sins, I’m watching ABC This Week and just watched Trump Toadie #1 Lindsay Graham say that the real issue wasn’t whether rallying on Arlington was bad, it was the matter of how the soldiers were killed by Biden. You should have seen his eyes shift, he looked like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis.

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Anita Smibert's avatar

I guess he forgot who made the deal with the Taliban, who tried to withdraw all of the troops before he left office and gave them the Taliban prisoners. But here's something for the INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS out there. Why did he tell a reporter at Mar-a-Lago during an interview in the spring of 2021 that he had to make a phone call because he was "still dealing with Afghanistan"??????? Was that another delusion, another bullshit story, or was he actually continuing to sabotage Biden? Because that was his aim after he lost, and part of the reason that Esper was fired.

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P123Sunny's avatar

It’s like we’ve been subconsciously programmed to give this guy a Participation Trophy at every f’n TURN…😠😡🤬

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Lynn Van Haren's avatar

They never mention it

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Kerry Truchero's avatar

I wish I could take the tombstones of 241 mostly Marines killed in Beirut in 1983 because of Reagan’s stupidity and shove them up the asses of all these shitheads who like to blame Democrats for Afghanistan and Benghazi. Politicizing can go both ways, you know? All those dead civilians on 9/11 because Bush couldn’t be bothered to take Clinton’s advice and keep an eye on Al Qaeda.

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Anita Smibert's avatar

Maybe it's time to start reminding them. Trump is blaming Harris for the hostages, even though he's been talking Netanyahu into keeping the war going.

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Dee Holtz's avatar

OMG - it's up next where we live but I won't be able to watch that segment without that image in my head!! Why oh why must they continue to have this "Toadie" on the talk shows! He makes me just as ill as tRump himself.

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kdsherpa's avatar

How would you like it if -- drum roll -- he were your SENATOR?! (Yep. He is. Gag.)

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Ransom Rideout's avatar

Hang on Kathy. The train is coming.

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Tess's avatar

😡and we have Ron Johnson 😡

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Margaret's avatar

Eeeww. We have to get rid of that slug!

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

That guy looks like a corpse of a vampire victim!

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kdsherpa's avatar

BIG GAG!

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

My condolences.

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Ole Anderson's avatar

We’ve got a Double whammy of douche bags in Florida- Marquito Rubio and skinhead alien Rivk Scott. Match that!

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Richard Von Busack's avatar

Maybe you can get rid of Skeletor this election. Could happen.

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Lynn O’Neal's avatar

Mine too

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Ransom Rideout's avatar

Mr.Graham is eagerly waitin' fo da Sout tuh rize agin. Gotta git da famly propity bak.

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

As he reclines on his Chaise Lounge, sipping a mint julep.

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Major Kong's avatar

There was a comment on another substack that the reason why Graham is always on the Sunday shows is that he has no friends or family.

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Richard Von Busack's avatar

That's mean. But I really like it.

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Dave Drell's avatar

He is as worthless as a bag o’ hammers.

And also a flip-flopping flim-flam ass.

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Marie Martin's avatar

I’d say, by comparison. A bag of hammers has quite a bit worth. At least with a hammer you can fix things, protect yourself, can even smash your finger. What at all can you do with Ms Lindsey?

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Dee Whitman's avatar

Everyone should call LG's office and tell him that we want him to stop lying. In this case, he's lying by not stating that SCUMP negotiated the withdrawal (just for a different date) and that SCUMP -- who negotiated w the Taliban but not the then-prez of Afghanistan, despite being told that was a bad idea -- is equally responsible if not more so.

Every time a GOP pol lies, we need to call their office and tell them that we, as an American citizen, are their constituent and therefore we insist that they stop lying. Differences of opinion on policy matters is acceptable; lies are not.

To find any senator's DC office ph. no., search: contact surname 202-224-

For any rep., search: contact surname 202-225-

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bruce somers's avatar

Trump's lackeys have had free reign on all the networks too.

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P123Sunny's avatar

Wowwwwww 😞

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Susan Niemann's avatar

"why is the press continuing to give the fascist leader of a violent mob every benefit of the doubt and whitewashing his lawless behavior?" THAT'S the thousand dollar question right here. This whole thing is like a bad dream. Trump is insane and the press pretends he isn't.

I hate everybody except you guys.

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Linda Fulcher's avatar

The press is clearly in the tank for Trump and not even bothering to hide it. I hate this sick and evil country.

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kdsherpa's avatar

The country is not sick and evil. The billionaire owners of the MSM are.

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Marie Martin's avatar

Hopefully we are finding that out with the wonderful KH/TW acceptance.

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JOSEPH PEDALINO, JR.'s avatar

Nailed it !

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kdsherpa's avatar

Thanks!

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bruce somers's avatar

Musk,Murdoch,Zuck and Thiel,getting rich on hate.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

They should have all been neutered long ago. Metaphorically, that is.

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kdsherpa's avatar

I have no problem with it being done physically. (How many offspring does muskrat have now? he, with the exceptional genes + ASD?)

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

Absolulu !

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Catherine's avatar

So do i.

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Sharon C Storm's avatar

He’s losing it more each day, soon he will gibber like a monkey, that will be all the brain power he will have left.

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arne link's avatar

It won't matter. He has created a death cult and they will follow him to the Kool-Aide drinking stage.

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Jane John Jones's avatar

If only.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And his cultists will finish the complete slide into Trumpanzeeism, and "ape" his behavior.

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

Me too, but maybe not ALL of " you guys ". I had the temerity to respond nastily to being criticized " nastily ".

Story of my life, as a petit blonde woman, it seems I've always been a target. Should I " keep my mouth closed & my legs together " ? FUCK THAT

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Marie Martin's avatar

I agree. Crazy ass. So many outlets have gone over to the “sell out our country, and your soul” side of the room. It’s really disturbing.

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Let me sum up's avatar

Can we add my mom & my sister to your circle? Bc they're pretty cool & my mom is a VERY isolated D in a ridiculously red part of Iowa.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Lawrence O'Donnell is with us.

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kdsherpa's avatar

Yes. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Alan Albert's avatar

Corporate media’s relationship to trump is the same as the two cowpokes in the movie Brokeback Mountain, “I can't quit you!”

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

It seems to involve the same physical act, too!

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bruce somers's avatar

😂😂😂😂

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And Theil, being gay, and Musk being neurodivergent, they will be taken down and their money taken, by the very monster they fed to kill everyone else. Zuck is Jewish, so they'll get him too.

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Bonnie Boyce's avatar

Remarkable how successful tRump has been at revealing America to itself. Not a very flattering look!

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Joanne Filipo's avatar

Yes, he’s brought out the very worst in all of us, unfortunately.

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Mark Marderosian's avatar

Trump is a moron but when it comes to sadistic racism, he knows what he's doing. Those rallies held in sundown towns is NO coincidence. He IS rallying the troops of fascist knuckledraggers. This is infuriating!

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kdsherpa's avatar

Infuriating. Also horrifying.

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counterlife's avatar

I've noticed a couple of times when the stupid bastard Trump refers to Harris (and other persons of color) as "that one", or "this one", not Vice president, not Harris, not even a mangled pronunciation of Kamala. "I am going to debate this one." I know what he meant to say [Nword or Cword, maybe both] and so do his idiot racist fans. But our masters of journalism don't seem to see or hear anything that their corporate owners don't want them to.

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Mark Marderosian's avatar

On February 20, 1939, the pro-Nazi German American Bund drew more than 20,000 people to a rally in Madison Square Garden. Racist idiots and their enablers have, unfortunately, always lived among us. It ticked me off in 2015 when the media actively promoted his nonsense. Now that he's having full-blown bund rallies, it's become important and serious that the MSM address this. As Friday proved, they'll be the first to go. But "serious" is not how I would describe today's journalist. They're unserious people who would light the fuse to the dynamite strapped to their own chests by this felon just to show how "fair" they are to "both sides."

I say again and will continue to say that my old journalism professor is spinning in his grave.

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Janan Broadbent's avatar

Mark—I am residing Philip Roth’s A Plot Against America, hadn’t come across it before. If Lindbergh had won — gives you shivers..But then, if tfg wins… Back to that scenario.

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counterlife's avatar

Everyone should be reading A Plot Against America these days. Not only because of the imagined possibilities that we may be actually living now, but also because Philip Roth is/was a literary fiction giant and a proud and patriotic American. His novel Operation Shylock should be in great demand during these times as well. America, Israel, Palestine, the Shoah, crazy and brilliant Jews, crazy and brilliant Arabs, crazy and brilliant Americans, and some of the best rants ever composed, plus humor, tragedy, and because it is Roth, interestingly odd sexy things. "Operation Shylock" should be widely read, probably forever. Because humans never learn a goddamn thing. It seems . . .

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steve robertshaw's avatar

And I'm sure you've probably read that older classic "It Can't Happen Here " of Sinclair Lewis'. But a couple histories I've read in the last few years about Hitler's rise to power using the existing (if new) German constitution and parliamentary processes really unnerved me. 'The Weimar Years 1918-1933' by Frank McDonough and William Shirer's old "Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich". The parallels of a complacent majority just going along with the loudest extremists in actual democratic elections and the propaganda of Goebbels finding a willing press to what's been going on here since trump surfaced are pretty eerie.

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Karla's avatar

The only thing that gives me hope is how many less people have been raising hell on his behalf since several insurrectionists went to prison for it. He is doing his best to rile the MAGA masses but I can only hope they learn from other people’s mistakes; that while they are supporting him, there’s a limit to what they will do.

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Let me sum up's avatar

Reagan didn't kick off his campaign in Philadelphia MS for nothing.

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bruce somers's avatar

He kicked off his campaign in Waco,TX.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Wished they'd kept him there. With that weird-faced HGTV lady, who has the barn-board as decoration fetish.

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Let me sum up's avatar

I stand corrected; he just gave an infamous 'state's rights' speech there.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Just like Reagan, announcing his campaign in that horrible town in Mississippi Where the KKK killed the Civil Rights workers.

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Chauncey Gardiner's avatar

The AP won't associate a physical attack on the press-pool with Trump's words, just moments after he verbally attacked the press in his address to the assembled Trumpanzees, pointed his finger at the press, and said it's a shame that they're allowed to say such terrible things about him and his Orc army of unwashed imbeciles.

It's disgraceful, but it's a great example of the overt policy of deliberate dissonance, the denial of clear "cause and effect", that have made corporate media such a damned disgrace to the nation and the working partner of Trump-MAGA fascism.

When the post-mortem on the disastrous age of Trump is done, the corporate media will be seen as one of Trump's biggest enablers and his true partner in the attack on American democracy, decency, objective reality, and the rule-of-law.

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Chauncey Gardiner's avatar

Trump probably had the list of "sundown towns" handy from his days working with his nefarious klan-member father. They were probably on a list of desirable locations to build their shitty apartments circa 1967.

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Derek Smith's avatar

Steven “Goebbels” Miller has a list, and he’s checking it twice.

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bruce somers's avatar

Probably Nosferatu McGoebbels and 3 Shirts helped him with it.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Stephan Miller has them all memorized.

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Kathleen Weber's avatar

These this is a portion of an amazing column written by Alexandra Petri, where she describes JD Vance making his move! https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/08/30/vance-romance-fertility-doughnut/

Then he saw the female. Even from across the room, he could see that it looked fertile. It looked as though it contained many fertilizable eggs. Seeing it, he had one immediate thought: He had better tell it about the Great Replacement Theory so that it would understand how imperative it was to combine their genetic material. He also would be sure to state that it reminded him of a beauty pageant contestant (it would understand that this was not demeaning, but the only meaningful compliment it was possible to bestow on a woman).

Its eyes were difficult to read, unlike Project 2025, which unwisely had been made available online, but he thought he saw sexual receptivity there.

He strode over, taking steps with the bony protrusions that extended from his ankle joints and were encompassed by the tanned carcasses of two deceased mammals.

“It is best for society if I reproduce with you,” he informed the female. “But in your case, in addition to being a duty, it will be a pleasure.”

“Thank you,” said the female of childbearing age. “That’s a very normal compliment, and receiving it has made me feel happy, not threatened.”

It is possible that the female looked at him with its face, but he was not looking there, because he was carefully evaluating its physical form to develop a keener sense of its level of fertility, a behavior that he knew it would understand if it were a rational being — often more than could be expected of such creatures.

“I excel at compliments,” he said. “My online friends and associates say so to me often. Before I proceed further with my courtship behaviors, I must inquire: Is a feline a member of your household?” He lowered his voice. “That is, do you now possess, or have you ever possessed, a cat?”

“A witch’s familiar?” said the female, aghast. “No!”

“That is excellent,” he said, “and I am relieved to hear it. Are there postmenopausal females in your life who can assist in the supervision of offspring, should you produce any?” The female nodded.

“Then I look forward to copulating with you—family is everything.”

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Marie Martin's avatar

God!!! I need a bath after that. Article needs a warning label. Something about it … it’s so plausible, given the slimey MC in real life.

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kdsherpa's avatar

WHEW!!!

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

USHA USHA USHA

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

She's a great satirist.

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

That column creeped me out for a few minutes. It was so expertly done.

Folks, read the whole column. It's a beaut.

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Geoff Anderson's avatar

I hadn't made the Sundown Town connection, but damn, it does make sense.

Sorta like Reagan's speech in Philadelphia (Mississippi, not Pennsylvania) that was a barely coded racist whistle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan%27s_1980_States%27_rights_speech)

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JOSEPH PEDALINO, JR.'s avatar

Call it out ‘cause thats where it started, the steep decline, with the sundown president…reagan

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Geoff Anderson's avatar

Indeed. When I hear supposedly "rational" Republicans pontificate about their patron Saint Ronnie, I just roll my eyes.

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kdsherpa's avatar

He began our slow decline into fascism -- which is now moving like a steam engine.

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

And delayed fetal cell therapy

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Fastball Fredo's avatar

That’s why I call him St. Reagan.. he never did anything wrong.. AmIRight?

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Kristy Kanen's avatar

SUNDOWNING with Alzheimers

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bruce somers's avatar

Didn't Reagan coin the term 'welfare queens' as a racial slur,while in reality about 70% of people who were receiving welfare were white??

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes. He knew his voters though, the hateful asswipe.

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

Yup.

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Janan Broadbent's avatar

💯💯💯

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kdsherpa's avatar

Outstanding observation.

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Kay-El's avatar

Waiting for Donny Orange to get his cease and desist for playing Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on You (apologies to Elton John)

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Cassandra Here's avatar

I grew up in a Sundown Town in Carson Valley, NV (eastern Sierra) one hour south of Reno. Most businesses also posted “right to refuse service.” There were no black folks anywhere nearby, but there were several colonies of Indigenous Peoples (Washoe, Paiute, and Shoshone). Many worked on the ranches, and were expected to be out of town by 6:00 when the whistle blew. When I was growing up, the whistle remained, but tribal members were at their kids’ school activities, in restaurants, and at the movies. The tribes are fighting to get the whistle silenced (and I agree with them). But the bigger problem is this: my beautiful little area has been invaded by trumpers from LA along the 395 corridor, and life has been made miserable even for the old-timer conservatives. A former ranch that was in my family for generations has been trashed and the land cleared to erect a shelter for the Trump Train. I could tell stories, but then I’d need my own substack and that looks like a lot of work.

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Cassandra Here's avatar

SPLC has marked that area as chuck full of neo-Nazis and white nationalist militias.

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Teri's avatar

SPLC? Southern Poverty Law Center?

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Tess's avatar

😩

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Teri's avatar

WOW, I don't think I 've ever heard of 'sundown towns" (age 68). Is there an actual whistle at 6 pm??? OMG. Does it still go off at 6 pm? What is "a shelter for the Trump train". I'm in Chico, CA,

approx a straight line across from you. JFC smh

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Cassandra Here's avatar

Yep, it still does go off. It served two purposes. Call the men in from the fields for dinner (ranchers sometimes provided minimal housing) and lunch (the whistle also blows at noon.) The evening whistle was the end of the work day and sometimes also for rides back to the colonies nearby. Many natives were still on the streets, when I was growing up, doing their shopping and visiting, some eating in the restaurants, but drinking might get you a night in the drunk tank. (We only had one sheriff, and he, too, had a drinking problem.)

It’s hard to describe the shelter for the trump train. It’s a very large outbuilding, like a gigunda carport. Inside is a large flatbed with trump flags and stickers. The outbuilding has a huge sign “Trump Train.” It’s not my culture, so I don’t understand how any of this works. The signs in the county cover sides of barns. Scale is pretty big.

It’s such a beautiful valley. Look up Carson Valley; nestled in the mountains above is Lake Tahoe. And Heavenly Valley ski resort is visible from the valley floor. I hate that it has become a trump haven.

We made national news over protests against the librarian who posted the typical non-discrimination notice on the Library’s website. The sheriff posted on his website that if she was welcoming Those People into her library, he would not respond to her 911 calls. It eventually involved Black Lives Matter, a women trumper slashing a young black mother in the face with her trump sign. I had it on video and we met with the AG’s rep, who patiently explained to us about constitutionalists; i.e., the sheriff answers to no one. The largest and oldest employer in the valley, because he’d allowed BLM to gather on his property, was stonewalled from getting any inspections or permits. He donated many acres of prime wetlands and grain growing land to Nature Conservancy and moved to Scotland. Foley Family Wines and Distillery bought the commercial property. They won’t put up with local b.s. A friend has property and owns some beautiful horses along one of the farm roads that the neo-Nazis (really) use to go out into the hills to rally and shoot up stuff. She called the sheriff to ask if they could get a patrol car to get these guys to slow down when they drove past her ranch. Within an hour or two, trucks pulled up alongside her ranch, guys got out and called her out: Nice horses you’ve got there. I’d hate to see anything happen to them. Now how would they have known unless that sheriff put them on to her by name and address? It’s terrible there. My cousin lives there; we always meet in Carson City. She says that she and her liberal friends, if they speak at all, speak in hushed tones.

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Becky Gibson's avatar

I think I know where you’re talking about - when I worked for one of the wedding chapels in Lake Tahoe, we would drive folks down there to get their marriage licenses. Lovely, sleepy little town. So sorry to hear it has been taken over by fascists and Nazis, I can see why you would hate to leave, it’s a beautiful place. But how long can you live with brownshirts? Best of luck, and take care. We have one of those “constitutional sheriffs” here in Barry County, Michigan - a pig named Dar Leaf - who answers to NO ONE. These people are dangerous!!! And the sad thing is, he might win his election here. Bad times.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Dar is pretty famous for being a huge gaping asshole.

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Cassandra Here's avatar

I left that small town in 1967 to go to college, married, have children and grandchildren. I always thought we’d retire out there. Not a fucking chance.

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TexasBlues's avatar

Omg....and I thought East Texas was bad. This is awful/sad/infuriating.

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Robert Eckert's avatar

When my family moved to my current suburb about fifty years ago, according to someone who used to work in the police department it still functioned as a sundown town: cops would radio "We have a NOMAD" which stood for Negro Over Mack After Dark (Mack Avenue being the border; and of course they did not always use the word Negro).

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Kerry Truchero's avatar

I’m just waiting til we can get our old Antifa gang together again, so we can commit some Marxist mayhem like old times.

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Stephen Brady's avatar

I'm waiting for my day on the Jewish Space Lasers... you can probably guess where I'm pointing them.

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Let me sum up's avatar

We've noticed your absence at the meetings, and are eager for your return.😉

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Kerry Truchero's avatar

Let me know when the next meeting is. I’ve got a couple million from Soros he gave me to donate to the cause.

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Let me sum up's avatar

We were wondering where those Soros bucks went. We've been cash flowing w BLM $ and Kamala's bail funds in the meantime.

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Kerry Truchero's avatar

It’s a shame all that Hunter Biden Burizma money dried up. And then the Chinese pulled the plug on Joe. I’m just hoping that last tranche of cartel fentanyl money shows up soon.

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Let me sum up's avatar

Let's divide & conquer - I'll reach out to the Gulf Cartel, you cover Sinaloa. And we need to hop to before the Kamala signs a border security bill.

Shall we work up some Whitewater material while we're at it? 😄

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Kerry Truchero's avatar

I’m thinking about auctioning Obama’s baby blanket we recovered from that hospital nursery in Kenya. That ought to bring some bank.

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John Newsom's avatar

In light of this post, I submit one of today’s editorial column headlines from the Washington Post. “Harris and Trump are different. They need to explain how different.” This is the final straw for me. I’m canceling my subscription. Canceled the NYT back in 2017. Sheesh.

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Kay-El's avatar

If someone can’t tell the difference, they’ve either been in a coma for a long time or dead.

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bruce somers's avatar

They drag out some supposed 'undecided' voters every election cycle,'deciding' on what,being an idiot?

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Dave Drell's avatar

“Need” to explain- Is that like a direct order from the Executive Board or CEO of WaPo? Go kiss off! they are not beholden to your rag! Cheeeeze!!

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Cassandra Here's avatar

No, no, no: Why on earth should Kamala explain herself in relation to trump? Fuck him.

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