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Lorraine Parish's avatar

I disagree. I believe without trump they will all just fight each other for the crumbs. Shit look at the House right now.

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Openly Fae's avatar

I hope you're right but as we know, you live in Mexico and I'm leaving the US. Obviously neither of us has enough faith left in America to want to live here.

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

That's only a tiny reason I moved here. I live in a beautiful (for now that is) town, I have always loved Mexican culture and its people, the weather is fabulous, the cost of living of course is a third of most of the states.

I was a serious activist for six years before I moved and one of the reasons, was that I wanted to have little to no guilt with leaving my country. Plus, I was fucking sick of all the anger around me up there, I'm too old for it.

But if somehow trump won which I truly do not believe he will. but if he did, there will be a mass exodus in the U.S. and Mexico is a great place to move to. And BTW, where I live, the medical and dentistry is great!

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Deborah Lang's avatar

One of my brothers moved to Patzcuaro with his husband decades ago for all the reasons you mention. Good for you! :)

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

I've been here two years now and am still adjusting. I just finished by book about the whys, the how's and the road trip to Mexico with my poodle Pearl and my fashion mannequin riding shotgun in the moving truck. I canтАЩt say I'll live here forever but for now itтАЩs all good.

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Debra Rowley's avatar

The only problem with a mass exodus is the cost of leaving the US. Most will be trapped in a hellscape of unimaginable terror if Trump wins, or someone just like him.

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Karen Livolsi's avatar

I have heard good things.

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Terry Heyman's avatar

May I ask where you're moving? I dream of leaving the country but haven't picked a place yet....

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Openly Fae's avatar

Switzerland is my first pick, but if for some reason that falls through, Germany is my second.

My search was based on Googles for happiest countries, healthiest countries, women's rights and freedoms, top countries for education...Switzerland was top five in everything. Denmark and the Netherlands score highly too.

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Terry Heyman's avatar

Thanks...I know of some folks who have moved to Portugal bc they say its the easiest in the EU to get permanent residency.

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Mary Virginia Hughes's avatar

I've got a friend there as well and she seems to really really like it.

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Openly Fae's avatar

Will keep in mind.

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Karen Livolsi's avatar

ThatтАЩs my first choice

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

I met a man here who had moved to Switzerland because he married a Swiss woman. They left because he said the Swiss people were a closed off tight bunch. They stuck to the people they knew and grew up with. Thats one personтАЩs opinion. IтАЩll say this, you can do all the research you can but until you LIVE the consequences you just cannot know the outcome. My biggest disappointment has been the expats. A good third of who i meet I canтАЩt stand!

And another thing I couldnтАЩt have seen coming, was how much the pandemic changed society everywhere.

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Openly Fae's avatar

I mean I'm sure whatever choice I make will be the wrong one. That's how I always am. It's just going to be a matter of what and why I'm wrong and how fixable it is, but I think anywhere I can reasonably acquire food and healthcare has to be better than this place will be in the next few years.

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

I knew people who had lived here, and I came in 2019 to check it out. I live in San Miguel de Allende BTW.

I trusted myself to fix my situation if I had royally fucked up. I'm giving it another year then see how I feel. Also wait until the election is over not that I could ever live in the States again.

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Openly Fae's avatar

Yeah gotta see if shithead wins and declares war on Mexico.

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Lorraine Parish's avatar

LOL. I think the Mexican government could enlist the cartel to kill a few million Magas.

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Openly Fae's avatar

Tell El Chapo his cousin said hi. Or at least I worked with a guy who once claimed to be his cousin.

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