Under the Constitution, the Office of the President has NO role on elections: none , zero, zip, nada, no way. And in.the instant case, his actions were those of a disappointed office-seeker, NOT anything official
.there were NO OBJECTIONS TO OTHER RACE RESULTS.
Ya wanna see chaos? SCROTUSjust destabilized our democracy.
If I recall correctly, either Chutkan or the DC Circuit (or maybe both) already said that deciding/overturning the election results is not within a president's official duties. So they should be able, since they aren't Cannon, to take one week, reprise the earlier ruling, and say, "Let's proceed. I'm open on August 5."
Judge Chutkan had already told scump's team that it could have 81 days to prepare its case; she can't now deny them that time. So wven if she / the DC Circuit say tomorrow that the trial is on, it couldn't begin before 9-21-24, which is a Saturday, so 9-23-24 -- and that start date might be prohibited bc it's so close to the election.
Everything about this sucks. Every person who has ever voted for a GOP sucks and is culpable, bc even earlier GOP actions, from 1981 on, are what got us here. I am enraged and depressed.
Susie in OH: I'm not following, but it sounds like you're saying Jan 6 - the events of the day were booked with the National Park Service and has nothing to do with a president's official duties? I want to understand this so I can feel better. Thanks!
Oh, good! I'm in the clear because I stopped voting for Republicans in 1980 when they picked Ronald Reagan(!) as their candidate.
I was raised Republican and always believed they were "the smart party"—then they went and picked a B-movie actor as their candidate, which seemed like a bad joke to me. Surely there was some college professor-turned-Senator or General they could have chosen over THAT moron....
Yes, as a woman, and a member of the LGBTQ I could never! When I was first able to vote, they put an anti-woman/ anti abortion plank in their party. Something that was none of their business. That told me who they were. And when they added the anti gay plank...that sealed it. They are the party of hate and repression.
Trump picked from the same pool of judges that the Bushes picked from. Both of them are just as much responsible for the current state of the Court as Trump is.
There are no rules that say a trial cannot proceed if it’s too close to an election-that’s some kind of DOJ way of doing things because, you know, it wouldn’t be fair-right? In light of the way Donny’s lawyers & the Supreme Court kept pushing this trial out, I think we should be having the trial on Election Day if we have to. And indict the rest of the scum that helped Donny or at least have a grand jury hear the case against them.
I agree with you, and I appreciate your clarification ("prohibited" was a poor choice on my part). Fwiw, I think that no Dem judge, or probably Dem judge, or appointed-by-Dem judge will hold one of scump's trials so close to the election -- in part bc rational people understand that it could be prejudicial and rational ppl like to play fair; in part bc the howls of outrage from everyone of the right would be deafening (and the Gun-Toters would do who knows what); and bc scump's lawyers would object all the way to the SC, whose corrupt majority would rule in his favor.
And as you note, ALL of this is happening bc of scump's longstanding love affair with delay tactics. I think he should have to pay the price for that -- but will he?
Oh, such grimness. Time to start drinking (it's 5pm somewhere). Wishing you well.
Except Trump will appeal that determination, and it will float up to the SCOTUS, and they will hear arguments on it ... (checks calendar...) next April
SCOTUS really can’t change official documents that show it wasn’t the White House that got the permit and made all the arrangements with the National Park Service and Capitol Police for the Jan 6 event. (The permit is online and I have a copy.) The event was booked by One Nation Under God a PAC promoting Trump I guess. If it had been an official act, the White House would have made the booking and all the arrangements. Trump will claim he is immune but Jack Smith has the receipts showing it was booked by a group promoting his campaign, not the White House! That fact cannot be changed by anyone.
The Convicted Felon, in his pea sized brain, thinks all his acts are official. Back to the Supreme Kangaroo Court for each challenge. When Biden wins the presidency, and Dems the house and senate, appoint 4 more supremes with Jamie Raskin as Chief Justice. Democracy reinstated..
Mike Johnson absolutely will commit treason, given an opportunity. He will be Speaker until January's next inauguration. So will ALL the Rs in Congress. There are plenty of seditionists there. What if they refuse to certify the results of Biden's win?
I do like the idea of Jamie Raskin being CJ of the SCOTUS. We need more women who aren't Amy Phony Carrot. Another POC person, male or female, would be grand, but please: no more catholics or RW christians. How about our first Native American judge, or a hindu judge, or a jewish judge, or a muslim judge? I don't know if we'll ever get an atheist one. We can dream...
Micheal Steele on MSNBC said a couple of nights ago that he spoke to a MAGA person with connections to GOP who said the GOP plan to put four more Supreme Court justices on the bench if Donny won. The Dems better get ahead of this & put OUR choice of justices on the bench if we hopefully win the next presidential & congressional elections
He's a loser playing NOT TO LOSE. This is what infuriates me: he can not/ will not compete like a man (as opposed to a spineless jellyfish). It's NEVER in the arena. It's ALWAYS casting doubt on that competition, then paying more money than a small nation would to get the sleaziest fucking lawyers to go to court. THIS is the methodology of a gutless, spineless toddler: go limp to get out of doing what you're told.
He fucking needs to die tonight . Yeah, I'm mad. Aren't you this mad, too?
Hell fucking yes I’m mad, after I cried about the stab to the heart of our democracy by those 6 putrid, corrupt, coup-plotting scrotuses. I’m with you on the “he needs to fucking die
tonight” thing. Even though I know it won’t pass in the maga controlled House, I’m all in on AOC filing to impeach Thomas as soon as they return to work. At least it will show that someone has some balls in Congress since the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dick Durbin, seems to have lost his long ago!! He issued another “stern warning” about a Code of Ethics & Transparency today, BFD 🙄
If things don’t change Donny will never go to trial-that’s why he’s running for president-to keep out of jail. He knew he was liable for illegal activities and going to jail scares the crap out of him
To quote one of my all-time favorite cartoons, which Jeff reproduces from time to time: "No, Thursday's out. How about never -- is never good for you?"
I think it'll make life a lot easier on all of us to agree that none of these outstanding trials will occur before the election, and that the only hope there is to preserve our Constitutional Republic lies with us, and what we do together on and before November 5th.
I daresay there has always been a distinction made regarding immunity for unofficial acts, and when official acts go drastically wrong there is a remedy: impeachment.
Had he been convicted at impeachment, he'd been screeching "double jeopardy" and those robed assholes would have a shot at that. (Impeachment is to remove from office)
Well we really won’t know for sure until the no-brainer for most case gets run through the washer again. Chutkan to specify then, no doubt, back to supremes. Of course by the time all this goes down, the election will be over; which is the point. There’s no reason to believe the justices will work on this any faster than they did this time. Bloody right wing! There is nothing legitimate to see there.
They will use the president’s authority to make sure all laws are followed or executed as an excuse in a similar way that Lindsey Graham escaped indictment for calling around to State Secretaries of State to interfere in the counting of ballots suggesting that some be thrown out, I believe, in GA, by claiming he is immune as a Senate committee chairman he has a duty to make sure elections are honest.
Biden needs to use the immunity that he’s been given to appoint 4 justices to the scotus immediately & the Senate confirm them. This situation is insanity.
Roberts will go down as the worst Supreme of the Supremes in history. Hope he's happy with his "legacy." There should be footnotes noting his despicability.
Well, some of his ruling announcements should go up in flashing neon for the world to remember, Citizen's United and Abortion and now this. Despicable people up there in that SC.
So can Biden arrest trump now for the insurrection? DO IT! There is proof he started it and watched it happen! DO IT! Damn…f****** not so supreme court!
They took the bribes BEFORE ruling in favor of their sponsor so even by their own definition it is a bribe, not a “gratuity”. The amount of BS these assholes can spew is astounding.
Unfortunately, they would simply appeal whether or not that was an official act and it would go back to the Supreme court. Biden needs to do something about the Supreme Court NOW!
I totally agree...that would be nice...and make it 'official'... don't hold your breath for dark Brandon to save us, he will most likely remain ineffectual for the country and allow O Dark 30 tRump to get away with everything just like he as the last 4 years. SMDH
Unfortunately he won’t. I now believe they can’t be stopped unless Biden does take advantage of the SC decision and use those powers to arrest and jail all those plotting Project 2025, which was published in 2023 for godsake and we have ignored it partly bc it is 900 pages no doubt, and I guarantee none of the ignorant base has read it and the same can be said for most Democrats. From now on ads should educate voters on the details of this vast plot!
America is so screwed. We are a mini-Russia with oligarchs and corruption and all the other goodies.
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me exactly what the Republican party has done to benefit the average American. SCOTUS is ensuring our demise. Fuuuuuuuuuuccccckkkkkk.
I’m 1/2 Canadian I’m fighting tooth and nail against those traitor scumbags they’ll not drive me out ! By the way Say Happy Canada day to our northern cousins aye!
If it comes to that the line will be really long. I dont believe ANY country in their right mind would welcome an influx of Americans after witnessing how stupid we must be to let this 4th rate game show host become president again.
Yes indeed we do! but there are lists as to what kind of jobs that are currently needed here, especially in the tech sector. Look under www.canada.ca, there are 6 different programs to choose from! But some of them seem to fill up quickly, so take a look. Also if you're willing to start a business here and employ a couple of people, that's a possibility too.
I found the website canadim.com which tells you how Americans can move to Canada the most expedient way. It also said that there has been an increase in Americans moving to Canada recently.
Susan....from another Susan, Thank you! Making plans for a new life in a better country must start now. America may become...and is on its way to becoming... a dangerous and horrible place.
It would be nice if our many, many intelligence agencies released all the evidence that the Rs are being influenced or controlled in part by Putin. I'm convinced Putin helped in the Middle East last October to screw up Biden's chance to win this time, too.
My chest hurts and a few minutes ago my BP must’ve gone critical as my vision started to fade. I’m okay now. Had to turn off my tv. So upset I feel 🤮😡. Our country is teetering on a very thin blade. I fear it’ll never be fixed in my lifetime.
It's not over yet and if Judge Chutkan rules on this in short order, we can hope the spawn of satan will soon be back in a courtroom where he belongs. Since SCOTUS ruled there's no immunity for unofficial acts, he's still in deep shit and could be spending another 6 weeks in a room he despises which would limit his mission of hate, revenge and control on the campaign trail. Then his grift to pay for legal fees will continue...
I REALLY hope Judge Chutkan retaliates against the SCOTUS ruling (a ruling that said, "Fuck you, lower courts.") and goes for the jugular. Why not? She is dealing with bad faith characters. If they complain and say rules, ethics, precedent!!! Then she'll say, "Rules, ethics and precedent mean nothing to SCOTUS. Until you hold them accountable for perjury or ignoring their own ethics rules or ignoring every precedent imaginable, then maybe I'll mind every nuance of the law. Until that time, I have a sociopath to hold accountable. So, fuck off."
We could, if we finally get it through our heads that once the other side doesn’t play by the rules anymore, our clinging to them makes no sense. We are in a real crisis here. To go high when they go low is no longer a feasible option.
YES!!! Exactly right, MxNicky! They go corrupt, we stop being nice.
Makes me think of my favorite scene from "A Bronx Tale." Only 5 minutes, Mafia drama, so a teensy bit violent, but a classic scene of no second chances.
It never was with these assholes. It's like when I played canasta with my sister-in-law, who learned to play by different rules, drawing two cards to my one. You can't win against that.
Thanks for the kindness and encouragement. I’m not going to stop fighting. Just never thought I’d see this day. We all saw it coming, but the reality of it is so harsh. Wish we had someone like Ret. Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré to help lead us. We’re going to need someone.
I am crying. Those six people on the supreme, who claim they're Americans but are really just repugnant Republicans who just hurt all of us. We have to vote blue and strengthen our Democracy against those who want to take our freedoms away from us. Trump is being used. He's an idiot who is easily manipulated. How long will he last? I'm so worried for everyone.
Trump being used? He's a sociopath. He will turn on them. He is mafia. He's completely into shaking down a threat using any means possible. No, they are getting used. Ask Franz von Papen and General Kurt Von Schleicher.
I believe he thinks he controls the party, but it is only short term. They will ride him to power and then have him butchered for their celebratory feast.
The permit for the January 6, 2021 event at The Ellipse was not booked by the White House. It was booked by One Nation Under God for only The Ellipse. I have a copy of the permit with the National Park Service and Capitol Police and it lists all the details for the event. It was restricted to The Ellipse and no arrangement was made to march to The Capitol. I have a copy. It is posted online and you can Google it if you want to see it. Therefore, it was not an official event. If it was it would have been arranged by the White House, not a right wing wackjob group.
SCOTUS's determination states "immunity for acts within the President's Constitutional authority". How is overthrowing the government in "Constitutional authority"?
I hope that Trump gets stripped and thrown in solitary once his case is heard for the (how many?) time in the lower court. Strip him of his clothes, makeup, possessions, and prosecute his criminal children.
I don’t think it is, because you can see his bald scalp when the wind blows the front of it or the back. Someone who knows, maybe M Cohen said he just has hair on the sides & he lets it grow really long to be able to do that dead ferret combover
Bloodthirsty media is making the most out of the debate debacle. How about listening to the VOTERS? Donations are up and so are the number of volunteers. Yet the spineless Democrats won't defend a successful leader, whereas Republicans rally around something they scraped off the bottom of their shoe.
I'm defending Biden! I'm disgusted with my fellow Democrats who are jumping ship and wanting someone else to magically appear to take Biden's place. It's infuriating! 😡
There is a fear factor for any Democrats or Never Trumpers, even more than the rest of us, who have been very public in bashing him. He just posted something about Cheney being a traitor. So I do understand. But, fear causes the autonomous response of fight or flight. They are all in the flight mode right now but they have to realize that there is no where to run. We have to fight!
It’s understandable and not unreasonable. Though I’m not panicking, I am concerned. That being said, calling people “spineless” because they’re concerned is just rude. Just sayin.
That "spineless Democrats" reference was referring to elected officials. And it also came from a historian who predicted 9 of the last 10 elections. That's up for debate since the one he got wrong was 2000. I think that the voters are smarter than elected officials and don't realize it's more difficult to win over voters with a new candidate than show that he had a bad night because he was exhausted and sick and his aides spent 6 days bombarding him with statistics and talking points, preparing for a "rational" Trump. And that doesn't exist. Democrats want perfect candidates, Republicans settle for much less. They should be listening to people, not polls from anonymous strangers that we really don't know about.
Edit: I’m voting for Joe even if he has to be propped up in a chair and someone has to hold his hand to sign…. Joe’s better than the orange turd no matter what.
I bet the #SupremeSix wipe their asses with our Constitution when they go to the bathroom and laugh at us the whole time. In the past 2-3 days of SCOTUS decisions, they’ve destroyed us - our govt, our climate, our regulations mandating corps not pollute our air and water on their way to raping our land and fucking most of us out out of everything. I hate them. Hatred isn’t enough for what they’ve done…
I fantasize about a big old bomb being dropped on the Supreme Court, on a day when the three reasonable justices and and the public aren't present. That would solve a lot of our problems, lickety split...
It is absolutely clear that His Imperial Asswholeness will not go on trial for Jan 6 before the Nov election.
Now, Judge Chutkan has to figure out which of Trump's acts were official, and after that he has the right to appeal her decision before trial. Since the supremes are not getting back together until October 10, it's all off until it really doesn't matter anymore.
Judge Chutkan can rule these charges unofficial and quickly move on to the trial. Then, let the appeals begin, but incarcerated while on appeal. I can't see any way this is not going to blow up into riots one side or the other, might as well toss the nugger into jail ASAP.
Trump is gleefully claiming they declared him immune but like always the moron knows nothing about a damn thing and he doesn’t know there are receipts. Events require permits through the National Park Service and the Capitol Police in order to provide safety and security. The permit was in the name of One Nation Under God, not the White House. Therefore, NOT an official presidential event. And since the permit only was for The Ellipse, his telling the group to march to the Capitol was a violation to begin with and his doing. He is not immune.
The Supreme Court specifically said that appeals of these issues must be RESOLVED before the trial can BEGIN. So, no conviction and incarceration while appeals go on.
While Chutkan is holding hearings to make these decisions, a huge bunch of Jack’s evidence will have to be presented, & although the hearings won’t be public, you can bet a lot of info will leak out & voters may learn a lot more about what happened
Our SCOTUS is the worst, most corrupt and unhinged court we've ever seen. It's appalling. It's infuriating and scary. On another subject, WHY isn't the lame-stream media showing clips of TRump babbling on about stupid shit?!! I suspect it's because they want Trump elected so they'll have a constant news source for 4 years. Gawd help us out if he gets elected. I'm still voting for President Biden, because he's done a great job in the last three plus years and I can't even begin to imagine what kind of hellscape we will be living in if TRump ever sees the Oval Office again. Let's do this! PLEASE!!
Obviously, the media doesn’t get that journalists are the first people to be arrested in a dictatorship. They will deserve everything they get if tfg is elected again.
I’m afraid that I’ll have to read today’s column in tiny installments throughout the day, or I’ll lose my fucking mind. Maybe low-watt gummies between the installments.
It’s certainly helping, today. 😂 I’ve an incredibly high pain tolerance and last night, when I told my husband I was at an 8 on scale of 0-10, he was very worried. Then, today happened. I’m going to enjoy my flowers. 😂
When you're in the booth casting your vote for Biden, remember to vote blue straight down the ticket. Don't ever forget that our current Supreme Court is courtesy of Mitch McConnell and his ilk, and at least half of the Republican representatives have never read the Constitution.
IMMEDIATELY. Dark Brandon time! My fantasy? Tell Schumer to get ready. Then plow through four confirmations. And if possible, demote Roberts and make Sotomayor Chief Justice (no idea how this works, but that would be ideal). Take a wrecking ball to that court and say one of Jeff's favorite lines: "Fuck around and find out!"
When the founding fathers set up lifetime appointments, the life expectancy was not nearly 80 years. A lifetime appointment would last 20 years or less.
Under the Constitution, the Office of the President has NO role on elections: none , zero, zip, nada, no way. And in.the instant case, his actions were those of a disappointed office-seeker, NOT anything official
.there were NO OBJECTIONS TO OTHER RACE RESULTS.
Ya wanna see chaos? SCROTUSjust destabilized our democracy.
If I recall correctly, either Chutkan or the DC Circuit (or maybe both) already said that deciding/overturning the election results is not within a president's official duties. So they should be able, since they aren't Cannon, to take one week, reprise the earlier ruling, and say, "Let's proceed. I'm open on August 5."
Judge Chutkan had already told scump's team that it could have 81 days to prepare its case; she can't now deny them that time. So wven if she / the DC Circuit say tomorrow that the trial is on, it couldn't begin before 9-21-24, which is a Saturday, so 9-23-24 -- and that start date might be prohibited bc it's so close to the election.
Everything about this sucks. Every person who has ever voted for a GOP sucks and is culpable, bc even earlier GOP actions, from 1981 on, are what got us here. I am enraged and depressed.
He isn’t immune. Jan 6 wasn’t booked with the National Park Service by the WH.
Susie in OH: I'm not following, but it sounds like you're saying Jan 6 - the events of the day were booked with the National Park Service and has nothing to do with a president's official duties? I want to understand this so I can feel better. Thanks!
Oh, good! I'm in the clear because I stopped voting for Republicans in 1980 when they picked Ronald Reagan(!) as their candidate.
I was raised Republican and always believed they were "the smart party"—then they went and picked a B-movie actor as their candidate, which seemed like a bad joke to me. Surely there was some college professor-turned-Senator or General they could have chosen over THAT moron....
Same
I have NEVER voted for a Repug and never will.
Yes, as a woman, and a member of the LGBTQ I could never! When I was first able to vote, they put an anti-woman/ anti abortion plank in their party. Something that was none of their business. That told me who they were. And when they added the anti gay plank...that sealed it. They are the party of hate and repression.
Trump picked from the same pool of judges that the Bushes picked from. Both of them are just as much responsible for the current state of the Court as Trump is.
And Mitch McConnell
The election rule doesn’t apply to these cases.
Treason is also right out.
Not necessarily. My bet is there’s a lot about the MarredaLago documents we don’t know. 😉
There are no rules that say a trial cannot proceed if it’s too close to an election-that’s some kind of DOJ way of doing things because, you know, it wouldn’t be fair-right? In light of the way Donny’s lawyers & the Supreme Court kept pushing this trial out, I think we should be having the trial on Election Day if we have to. And indict the rest of the scum that helped Donny or at least have a grand jury hear the case against them.
I agree with you, and I appreciate your clarification ("prohibited" was a poor choice on my part). Fwiw, I think that no Dem judge, or probably Dem judge, or appointed-by-Dem judge will hold one of scump's trials so close to the election -- in part bc rational people understand that it could be prejudicial and rational ppl like to play fair; in part bc the howls of outrage from everyone of the right would be deafening (and the Gun-Toters would do who knows what); and bc scump's lawyers would object all the way to the SC, whose corrupt majority would rule in his favor.
And as you note, ALL of this is happening bc of scump's longstanding love affair with delay tactics. I think he should have to pay the price for that -- but will he?
Oh, such grimness. Time to start drinking (it's 5pm somewhere). Wishing you well.
Yeah and the rest of us should get to postpone a trial because we have a dentist appointment.
If the gun nuts get enraged then some of them commit suicide-by-cop, and good riddance.
Except Trump will appeal that determination, and it will float up to the SCOTUS, and they will hear arguments on it ... (checks calendar...) next April
SCOTUS really can’t change official documents that show it wasn’t the White House that got the permit and made all the arrangements with the National Park Service and Capitol Police for the Jan 6 event. (The permit is online and I have a copy.) The event was booked by One Nation Under God a PAC promoting Trump I guess. If it had been an official act, the White House would have made the booking and all the arrangements. Trump will claim he is immune but Jack Smith has the receipts showing it was booked by a group promoting his campaign, not the White House! That fact cannot be changed by anyone.
The seditous six don't do facts.
The Convicted Felon, in his pea sized brain, thinks all his acts are official. Back to the Supreme Kangaroo Court for each challenge. When Biden wins the presidency, and Dems the house and senate, appoint 4 more supremes with Jamie Raskin as Chief Justice. Democracy reinstated..
Mike Johnson absolutely will commit treason, given an opportunity. He will be Speaker until January's next inauguration. So will ALL the Rs in Congress. There are plenty of seditionists there. What if they refuse to certify the results of Biden's win?
I do like the idea of Jamie Raskin being CJ of the SCOTUS. We need more women who aren't Amy Phony Carrot. Another POC person, male or female, would be grand, but please: no more catholics or RW christians. How about our first Native American judge, or a hindu judge, or a jewish judge, or a muslim judge? I don't know if we'll ever get an atheist one. We can dream...
Oh, and--DON'T GIVE UP THE SHIP
"People of Praise"
❤️❤️❤️May you be a prophet.
Micheal Steele on MSNBC said a couple of nights ago that he spoke to a MAGA person with connections to GOP who said the GOP plan to put four more Supreme Court justices on the bench if Donny won. The Dems better get ahead of this & put OUR choice of justices on the bench if we hopefully win the next presidential & congressional elections
He's a loser playing NOT TO LOSE. This is what infuriates me: he can not/ will not compete like a man (as opposed to a spineless jellyfish). It's NEVER in the arena. It's ALWAYS casting doubt on that competition, then paying more money than a small nation would to get the sleaziest fucking lawyers to go to court. THIS is the methodology of a gutless, spineless toddler: go limp to get out of doing what you're told.
He fucking needs to die tonight . Yeah, I'm mad. Aren't you this mad, too?
I am livid. I truly don't think I've ever been this angry, so I'm right there with you!
Fucking nepo baby RE developer. Always needs Daddy to hide behind.
Hell fucking yes I’m mad, after I cried about the stab to the heart of our democracy by those 6 putrid, corrupt, coup-plotting scrotuses. I’m with you on the “he needs to fucking die
tonight” thing. Even though I know it won’t pass in the maga controlled House, I’m all in on AOC filing to impeach Thomas as soon as they return to work. At least it will show that someone has some balls in Congress since the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dick Durbin, seems to have lost his long ago!! He issued another “stern warning” about a Code of Ethics & Transparency today, BFD 🙄
I believe as you do.
Yes. Roberts said that appeals on this issue will be heard BEFORE trial.
And they will rule in his favor somewhere around June......
If things don’t change Donny will never go to trial-that’s why he’s running for president-to keep out of jail. He knew he was liable for illegal activities and going to jail scares the crap out of him
" ... (checks calendar...) next April"
To quote one of my all-time favorite cartoons, which Jeff reproduces from time to time: "No, Thursday's out. How about never -- is never good for you?"
If wishes were horses beggars would ride.
I wish!
I think it'll make life a lot easier on all of us to agree that none of these outstanding trials will occur before the election, and that the only hope there is to preserve our Constitutional Republic lies with us, and what we do together on and before November 5th.
The problem is that anything he did under the guise of doing his official duties can’t be used against him. That’s almost all evidence. Fuck.
And when she makes a decision, Trump's team will appeal that. Their only game is delay.
Oh, that might reduce the stress.
Re: Sotomayor's dissent.
That’s what they’ve been doing since the “quadrice-indicted twice-impeached once-convicted popular-vote-losing adderall-huffing insurrection-leading testimony-ducking judge-threatening lawyer-ignoring witness-tampering day-one-dictatoring disabled-veteran-dishonoring inheritance-squandering rube-fleecing clown-makeup-smearing language-mangling serial-sexual-predating draft-dodging casino-bankrupting butler-bullying daughter-perving hush-money-paying real-estate-scamming bone-spur-faking ketchup-hurling justice-obstructing classified-war-plan-thieving golf-cheating weather-map-defacing horse-paste-promoting paper-towel-flinging race-baiting tax-evading evidence-destroying charity-defrauding money-laundering diaper-filling 88-count fluorescent tangerine felony factory” that is Donald Trump got his three goons on this court.
Quoted statement here is
Compliments of Jeff Tiedrich
06/17/24
*Very lightly edited for FakeBook post
and now this on Jeff Tiedrich’s Substack post 07/01/24

I daresay there has always been a distinction made regarding immunity for unofficial acts, and when official acts go drastically wrong there is a remedy: impeachment.
There’s a difference between impeachment and criminal acts in a criminal court.
This, this, and the whole this.
Had he been convicted at impeachment, he'd been screeching "double jeopardy" and those robed assholes would have a shot at that. (Impeachment is to remove from office)
Impeachment and criminal trial are very different disparate venues and differing results. One doesn’t, necessarily, mean anything to the other.
As we all know by now, that doesn’t always work
No. He’s not immune.
Well we really won’t know for sure until the no-brainer for most case gets run through the washer again. Chutkan to specify then, no doubt, back to supremes. Of course by the time all this goes down, the election will be over; which is the point. There’s no reason to believe the justices will work on this any faster than they did this time. Bloody right wing! There is nothing legitimate to see there.
“SCROTUS”…Excellent!
They will use the president’s authority to make sure all laws are followed or executed as an excuse in a similar way that Lindsey Graham escaped indictment for calling around to State Secretaries of State to interfere in the counting of ballots suggesting that some be thrown out, I believe, in GA, by claiming he is immune as a Senate committee chairman he has a duty to make sure elections are honest.
Yes, that stunk like a week old dead fish!
Of course.
🎯This is a warning shot fired over the bow. If we don't strip the originalists of power it's just a matter of time.
Biden needs to use the immunity that he’s been given to appoint 4 justices to the scotus immediately & the Senate confirm them. This situation is insanity.
With this Senate?
Yes .
agreed
Roberts will go down as the worst Supreme of the Supremes in history. Hope he's happy with his "legacy." There should be footnotes noting his despicability.
Let’s hope we have a history to go down in.
I'm also saying that a lot as well.
Me, too! No one pays attention to history any more...that's part of the problem.
🎯Yes authoritarianism on the rise all over the world, never ends well for anyone.
My thoughts exactly!
They don’t care. They are very happy with their situation. They are not Americans.
There should be a blank page next to his name.
Well, some of his ruling announcements should go up in flashing neon for the world to remember, Citizen's United and Abortion and now this. Despicable people up there in that SC.
So can Biden arrest trump now for the insurrection? DO IT! There is proof he started it and watched it happen! DO IT! Damn…f****** not so supreme court!
As long as Biden proclaims it’s an official act, yes.
Wouldn’t that be just desserts?
waah he can't. read Heather Cox Richardson's post today
How about Biden arresting Alito and Thomas for taking bribes? I think that would be a very welcome official act!
Arrest them, disbar them and prohibit them from EVER holding a judicial or government position ever again.
They took the bribes BEFORE ruling in favor of their sponsor so even by their own definition it is a bribe, not a “gratuity”. The amount of BS these assholes can spew is astounding.
Now you're talking. Biden to A.G. Merrick Garland: "Turtle time is over. Pull your head out and Indict the flag asshole and RV asshole now."
Biden will not do that. It is up to Garland.
Yes, please!
If rump can be arrested now for the insurrection, it must be done. How can we the citizenry make this happen?
I'd rather he had a cardiac arrest.
Unfortunately, they would simply appeal whether or not that was an official act and it would go back to the Supreme court. Biden needs to do something about the Supreme Court NOW!
I totally agree...that would be nice...and make it 'official'... don't hold your breath for dark Brandon to save us, he will most likely remain ineffectual for the country and allow O Dark 30 tRump to get away with everything just like he as the last 4 years. SMDH
Unfortunately he won’t. I now believe they can’t be stopped unless Biden does take advantage of the SC decision and use those powers to arrest and jail all those plotting Project 2025, which was published in 2023 for godsake and we have ignored it partly bc it is 900 pages no doubt, and I guarantee none of the ignorant base has read it and the same can be said for most Democrats. From now on ads should educate voters on the details of this vast plot!
Biden can’t arrest anyone. Neither can Drumpf.
America is so screwed. We are a mini-Russia with oligarchs and corruption and all the other goodies.
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me exactly what the Republican party has done to benefit the average American. SCOTUS is ensuring our demise. Fuuuuuuuuuuccccckkkkkk.
Kind of like the Priest of the Russian Church who rubber stamps every single thing Putin does.
Cyril the pontiff of the Russian Orthodox church was appointed by Putin. IIRC.
Don't hold your breath. The average American isn't included in the GOP playbook.
Repug party has done NOTHING to better Americans. They are and ALWAYS have been for the rich and corrupt.
🎯That has been the case my entire political lifetime.
I’m making a backup plan to move to Canada. 😭
Canada? Will they allow Americans in? I’m looking too! Passport is renewed. I have nothing holding me in America.
I’m 1/2 Canadian I’m fighting tooth and nail against those traitor scumbags they’ll not drive me out ! By the way Say Happy Canada day to our northern cousins aye!
If it comes to that the line will be really long. I dont believe ANY country in their right mind would welcome an influx of Americans after witnessing how stupid we must be to let this 4th rate game show host become president again.
Yes indeed we do! but there are lists as to what kind of jobs that are currently needed here, especially in the tech sector. Look under www.canada.ca, there are 6 different programs to choose from! But some of them seem to fill up quickly, so take a look. Also if you're willing to start a business here and employ a couple of people, that's a possibility too.
P.S. and I'm here on the other side worrying about our property down there, and also a daughter who lives there too......
I found the website canadim.com which tells you how Americans can move to Canada the most expedient way. It also said that there has been an increase in Americans moving to Canada recently.
Also, globalcitizensolutions.com “Americans Moving To Canada: A Comprehensive Guide”
Susan....from another Susan, Thank you! Making plans for a new life in a better country must start now. America may become...and is on its way to becoming... a dangerous and horrible place.
Your welcome. I’m afraid that in November even if President Biden wins by 10 million votes, the corrupt SCOTUS will make Trump king.
There’s going to be a mass exodus from this country. 😭
I hope you’re wrong. Ugh! 😩
I married a Canadian in 2007, never thinking I might need to go live there in exile.
It would be nice if our many, many intelligence agencies released all the evidence that the Rs are being influenced or controlled in part by Putin. I'm convinced Putin helped in the Middle East last October to screw up Biden's chance to win this time, too.
My chest hurts and a few minutes ago my BP must’ve gone critical as my vision started to fade. I’m okay now. Had to turn off my tv. So upset I feel 🤮😡. Our country is teetering on a very thin blade. I fear it’ll never be fixed in my lifetime.
Don’t let this squeeze your coronaries, stay healthy to stay in the fight!
It's not over yet and if Judge Chutkan rules on this in short order, we can hope the spawn of satan will soon be back in a courtroom where he belongs. Since SCOTUS ruled there's no immunity for unofficial acts, he's still in deep shit and could be spending another 6 weeks in a room he despises which would limit his mission of hate, revenge and control on the campaign trail. Then his grift to pay for legal fees will continue...
I REALLY hope Judge Chutkan retaliates against the SCOTUS ruling (a ruling that said, "Fuck you, lower courts.") and goes for the jugular. Why not? She is dealing with bad faith characters. If they complain and say rules, ethics, precedent!!! Then she'll say, "Rules, ethics and precedent mean nothing to SCOTUS. Until you hold them accountable for perjury or ignoring their own ethics rules or ignoring every precedent imaginable, then maybe I'll mind every nuance of the law. Until that time, I have a sociopath to hold accountable. So, fuck off."
I don’t know that Jack has enough evidence he can use to prosecute him.
Oh, how I wish he had to miss the RNC. 😂
There isn't time.
I feel the same way and sick to my stomach!! I fear for my adult children, people of color and all women in this country!!
What if we ignore the subpar court like the rethugs do?
We could, if we finally get it through our heads that once the other side doesn’t play by the rules anymore, our clinging to them makes no sense. We are in a real crisis here. To go high when they go low is no longer a feasible option.
Pretty tired of Dems sticking to the old ‘bipartisan’ way when republicans dont give a crap about any of that, only as long as they win.
I’m seriously considering some drastic measures - none of which are desirable but may, indeed, be very necessary.
YES!!! Exactly right, MxNicky! They go corrupt, we stop being nice.
Makes me think of my favorite scene from "A Bronx Tale." Only 5 minutes, Mafia drama, so a teensy bit violent, but a classic scene of no second chances.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnpE-hGNVj8
It never was with these assholes. It's like when I played canasta with my sister-in-law, who learned to play by different rules, drawing two cards to my one. You can't win against that.
We’re buying some land and disappearing in about 4 mos IF Joe doesn’t win.
You should fear for EVERYONE. even those in t’s orbit are not immune.
I feel the same way....Damn.
Well, yes it is a horrible decision but we all expected it to fall this way. No surprise.
Exactly. I was hoping against hope they they would do the right thing. But totally NOT surprised at all
I didn’t expect them to rule that anything he said to the DOJ couldn’t be used as evidence.
Its still bad.
No, I’m not surprised. That doesn’t mitigate my anger and sadness, though.
Same here. I feel your pain. The American Oligarchs won again. This is what corruption looks like at the top of the food chain.
EAT THE RICH
Hang in there Chaiah!❤️
Thanks for the kindness and encouragement. I’m not going to stop fighting. Just never thought I’d see this day. We all saw it coming, but the reality of it is so harsh. Wish we had someone like Ret. Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré to help lead us. We’re going to need someone.
I am crying. Those six people on the supreme, who claim they're Americans but are really just repugnant Republicans who just hurt all of us. We have to vote blue and strengthen our Democracy against those who want to take our freedoms away from us. Trump is being used. He's an idiot who is easily manipulated. How long will he last? I'm so worried for everyone.
Trump being used? He's a sociopath. He will turn on them. He is mafia. He's completely into shaking down a threat using any means possible. No, they are getting used. Ask Franz von Papen and General Kurt Von Schleicher.
I believe he thinks he controls the party, but it is only short term. They will ride him to power and then have him butchered for their celebratory feast.
DON'T GIVE UP THE SHIP
Might want to leave it off.
I can't - I gotta know what's going on....!!
DON'T SURRENDER IN ADVANCE
You can’t check out now!! We need your vote. Take an extra dose of your BP med & listen to a free calming app or some music that you like.
*hugs* if you want them, hopefully we get out the vote, and get Biden re-elected and the press are scamming us about the Orange-a-tan.
The permit for the January 6, 2021 event at The Ellipse was not booked by the White House. It was booked by One Nation Under God for only The Ellipse. I have a copy of the permit with the National Park Service and Capitol Police and it lists all the details for the event. It was restricted to The Ellipse and no arrangement was made to march to The Capitol. I have a copy. It is posted online and you can Google it if you want to see it. Therefore, it was not an official event. If it was it would have been arranged by the White House, not a right wing wackjob group.
Ginni Thomas put that together.
Talk about immunity, hell, she seems to have the power of not even getting indicted.
F'ing A.G. Garland. BS, without fear or favor. She had her paws all over the insurrection.
As long as we're fantasizing, let's indict Ginni Thomas and watch Uncle Clarence's heart explode, killing him and opening up a seat on the SCOTUS.
Let’s charge Ginni!!
Absolutely!
Through Turning Point USA she was on the board, and she funded busses through them.
I hope you are in communication with the D party leaders/Biden’s people.
No, but they have the House committee’s documents
Have you contacted your Senator?
SCOTUS's determination states "immunity for acts within the President's Constitutional authority". How is overthrowing the government in "Constitutional authority"?
I hope that Trump gets stripped and thrown in solitary once his case is heard for the (how many?) time in the lower court. Strip him of his clothes, makeup, possessions, and prosecute his criminal children.
End this shit forever.
And cut that god-awful hair!
It's a wig.
Isn't it a weave?
Dead ferret, actually.
One that had mange.
I don’t think it is, because you can see his bald scalp when the wind blows the front of it or the back. Someone who knows, maybe M Cohen said he just has hair on the sides & he lets it grow really long to be able to do that dead ferret combover
Once the lower court makes a decision, tRump will appeal it & this bs will go on forever
So Uncle Joe can call up Seal Team 6, blow Mar A Lago off the map and have members of the supreme court arrested? SWEET!
Works for me!
As long as they are official acts...
It’s a clear and present danger….
The Orange Orc is a "clear and present danger."
Bloodthirsty media is making the most out of the debate debacle. How about listening to the VOTERS? Donations are up and so are the number of volunteers. Yet the spineless Democrats won't defend a successful leader, whereas Republicans rally around something they scraped off the bottom of their shoe.
I'm defending Biden! I'm disgusted with my fellow Democrats who are jumping ship and wanting someone else to magically appear to take Biden's place. It's infuriating! 😡
I heard that!!
There is a fear factor for any Democrats or Never Trumpers, even more than the rest of us, who have been very public in bashing him. He just posted something about Cheney being a traitor. So I do understand. But, fear causes the autonomous response of fight or flight. They are all in the flight mode right now but they have to realize that there is no where to run. We have to fight!
It’s understandable and not unreasonable. Though I’m not panicking, I am concerned. That being said, calling people “spineless” because they’re concerned is just rude. Just sayin.
That "spineless Democrats" reference was referring to elected officials. And it also came from a historian who predicted 9 of the last 10 elections. That's up for debate since the one he got wrong was 2000. I think that the voters are smarter than elected officials and don't realize it's more difficult to win over voters with a new candidate than show that he had a bad night because he was exhausted and sick and his aides spent 6 days bombarding him with statistics and talking points, preparing for a "rational" Trump. And that doesn't exist. Democrats want perfect candidates, Republicans settle for much less. They should be listening to people, not polls from anonymous strangers that we really don't know about.
The media must cause panic, and manufacture their horse-race.
Edit: I’m voting for Joe even if he has to be propped up in a chair and someone has to hold his hand to sign…. Joe’s better than the orange turd no matter what.
We have our share of fickle naifs, who want the perfect candidate, who doesn't exist.
I heard a Republican saying he's voting for Joe even if he's dead.
We’ve only got to get Joe B. across the finish line. Kamala is waiting in the wings. Of course then the Pandora’s Box of Misogynoir flies open.
Exactly. He's got a completely qualified VP and a stellar cabinet.
Something the MSM assholes don't seem to find worthy of reporting on much.
The misogynist racist assholes wouldn't.
That has nada to do with the decisions of SCOTUS, today. Nada.
If you read the column you would note that Jeff mentioned this issue, especially with the NY Times. And I have another comment on the SCOTUS decision.
I bet the #SupremeSix wipe their asses with our Constitution when they go to the bathroom and laugh at us the whole time. In the past 2-3 days of SCOTUS decisions, they’ve destroyed us - our govt, our climate, our regulations mandating corps not pollute our air and water on their way to raping our land and fucking most of us out out of everything. I hate them. Hatred isn’t enough for what they’ve done…
I fantasize about a big old bomb being dropped on the Supreme Court, on a day when the three reasonable justices and and the public aren't present. That would solve a lot of our problems, lickety split...
Fuck it! The fact that the other three sit on the corrupt court makes them complicit. Blow them up too!!
They are on the court but are NOT complicit.
Absolutely not! Those 3 are good people
You sound like those ignorant voters who blame Biden for the fall of Roe because it happened while he was in office.
Don't be like them.
How are they complicit? That doesn't even make sense.
I was pissed, but I'm better now.
Yep.
It is absolutely clear that His Imperial Asswholeness will not go on trial for Jan 6 before the Nov election.
Now, Judge Chutkan has to figure out which of Trump's acts were official, and after that he has the right to appeal her decision before trial. Since the supremes are not getting back together until October 10, it's all off until it really doesn't matter anymore.
aaaaggggghhhhhhh!!!!!
Judge Chutkan can rule these charges unofficial and quickly move on to the trial. Then, let the appeals begin, but incarcerated while on appeal. I can't see any way this is not going to blow up into riots one side or the other, might as well toss the nugger into jail ASAP.
Trump is gleefully claiming they declared him immune but like always the moron knows nothing about a damn thing and he doesn’t know there are receipts. Events require permits through the National Park Service and the Capitol Police in order to provide safety and security. The permit was in the name of One Nation Under God, not the White House. Therefore, NOT an official presidential event. And since the permit only was for The Ellipse, his telling the group to march to the Capitol was a violation to begin with and his doing. He is not immune.
Good points!
See my post about One Nation Under God.
The Supreme Court specifically said that appeals of these issues must be RESOLVED before the trial can BEGIN. So, no conviction and incarceration while appeals go on.
* bugger
If was orchestrated this way. No surprise whatsoever.
While Chutkan is holding hearings to make these decisions, a huge bunch of Jack’s evidence will have to be presented, & although the hearings won’t be public, you can bet a lot of info will leak out & voters may learn a lot more about what happened
Our SCOTUS is the worst, most corrupt and unhinged court we've ever seen. It's appalling. It's infuriating and scary. On another subject, WHY isn't the lame-stream media showing clips of TRump babbling on about stupid shit?!! I suspect it's because they want Trump elected so they'll have a constant news source for 4 years. Gawd help us out if he gets elected. I'm still voting for President Biden, because he's done a great job in the last three plus years and I can't even begin to imagine what kind of hellscape we will be living in if TRump ever sees the Oval Office again. Let's do this! PLEASE!!
Obviously, the media doesn’t get that journalists are the first people to be arrested in a dictatorship. They will deserve everything they get if tfg is elected again.
No one wins under a dictator.
Why anyone would support rump is not possible to determine.
$$$
I’m afraid that I’ll have to read today’s column in tiny installments throughout the day, or I’ll lose my fucking mind. Maybe low-watt gummies between the installments.
I’ve been toking Maui Wowie and Wedding Cake. Only way I’m not out on my porch screaming in anger.
Yep. Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue, and smoking.
Sniffing glue 🤣
(it’s a line from the movie Airplane!)
I totally get it, Chaiah. Hang in there. We're all in this together.💙
A wise choice of medicine/flower…
It’s certainly helping, today. 😂 I’ve an incredibly high pain tolerance and last night, when I told my husband I was at an 8 on scale of 0-10, he was very worried. Then, today happened. I’m going to enjoy my flowers. 😂
Exactly Lisa.....😅🤐
When you're in the booth casting your vote for Biden, remember to vote blue straight down the ticket. Don't ever forget that our current Supreme Court is courtesy of Mitch McConnell and his ilk, and at least half of the Republican representatives have never read the Constitution.
I would NEVER vote for a repug.
Joe Biden can now do two things:
1. Executive order declaring that no convicted felon can run for congress or President.
2. Executive order expanding the SCOTUS to 13 justices. One for each district.
How do we get him to do that?
Phone calls to the WH every damned day 202-456-1111 or 202-456-1414
Same 2 numbers for VP Harris, just tell the operator whose message box you want to leave a message for.
Flood his email:
president@whitehouse.gov
Kamala: vice.president@whitehouse.gov
Call your Senators & Rep use their local home state numbers & their DC numbers
IMMEDIATELY. Dark Brandon time! My fantasy? Tell Schumer to get ready. Then plow through four confirmations. And if possible, demote Roberts and make Sotomayor Chief Justice (no idea how this works, but that would be ideal). Take a wrecking ball to that court and say one of Jeff's favorite lines: "Fuck around and find out!"
Yeah, Baby.
I believe Congress has to set the size of SCOTUS -
& previously Joe said he didn’t favor that.
Well he can damn well change his fucking mind & get to favoring it!!
This is a crisis with a scotus that no longer believes in the law or the Constitution, they are just making up shit.
This post of Jeff’s has over 1400 likes & about 500 of us commenting. We all need to be calling the WH & demanding 4 more justices.
Ugh. Fuck SCOTUS.
Fuck the six reactionaries and conservatives on SCOTUS; let's not damn the three decent justices.
Their exclusion was implied, but also fuck SCOTUS as a whole - the way it’s set up needs an overhaul - no lifetime appointments, add term limits, etc
When the founding fathers set up lifetime appointments, the life expectancy was not nearly 80 years. A lifetime appointment would last 20 years or less.